Imran forms committee for talks with ‘anyone’ - Experts' Analysis

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00:00Viewers, all the sane elements in Pakistan are saying that the way political war is going on in Pakistan right now,

00:11if this continues, there will be no economic stability in the country.

00:17If you look at the columns of Don, Jiang, Duniya, any newspaper in Pakistan,

00:22mainstream television channels, you will only hear one thing from them,

00:28that there is a need to lower the political temperature in the country.

00:32Now, recently, a few days ago, a committee was formed of five members,

00:36and yesterday, what we heard from Mr. Umar Ayub,

00:41we are getting news from him that he might become the chairman of Pakistan Jurisprudence,

00:45he said, we are ready to meet anyone, whether he is a human being or an angel,

00:51let us first listen to what he has to say.

00:56We are ready to meet anyone, whether he is a human being or an angel,

01:02we are ready to meet anyone, inshallah.

01:06He said, we are ready to meet anyone,

01:09but now, while complaining, we hear that we have not contacted anyone,

01:14so how can we meet anyone?

01:16We have given our cookpoint agenda, but there has been no response from the government.

01:2115 days ago, if we can talk, then we will see.

01:24Yesterday, we had a conversation with Mullah Nasir, we are in contact.

01:26Have you contacted anyone?

01:28No, no one has contacted anyone.

01:33Mr. Rana Sinala is the senior leader of Pakistan Muslim League,

01:36he is expressing his views on this issue.

01:40It has happened that you have formed a committee,

01:43and you have also decided that this committee will talk on these two issues,

01:48which are not negotiable.

01:51Tell me, how can we negotiate on the conditions they have put forth?

01:55He is saying, how can we negotiate on these conditions?

01:59Mr. Akeel is saying,

02:01give us everything in one moment,

02:05on one occasion, so that we can see who we can talk to and who we cannot talk to.

02:09The government wants to engage.

02:11Yes, of course, but there will be some TORs.

02:13If you think that there are some people who are political prisoners,

02:18you should make a list of them,

02:20just like you have made a list of white papers,

02:22and then you have also made a list of election results.

02:26Who are the expected TORs?

02:28There is senior leadership,

02:29but we are also seeing that we are also talking to our allies,

02:34and when we talk to them,

02:36and when the matter progresses,

02:38we will try to talk to them across the board.

02:41So, you think that the Pakistan Leaders Party should also play a role in this?

02:45Yes, of course, and they should also play a role.

02:47Absolutely, they should also play a role,

02:49especially in the case of the Pakistan People's Party.

02:51Mr. Talal Chaudhary is talking about a joint agenda.

02:56Get yourself out of this frame of mind,

02:59and accept this reality,

03:01that a government has been formed in Pakistan after elections,

03:06it has been going on for the next five years,

03:08political stability,

03:10there have been drops,

03:11despite the fact that the PTI has tried every means,

03:15and after that, the 26th amendment has been implemented,

03:19and according to the current situation,

03:22there is no harm in straightening your mind and understanding,

03:25and then having a conversation.

03:28But such a conversation cannot happen,

03:30that you give an agenda in advance,

03:32and say on the agenda,

03:33we will talk about this,

03:34if you want to do it, then do it on this.

03:36For a conversation, a common agenda should be decided on both sides,

03:40and then a conversation can be had.

03:43Mr. Chaudhary, Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf is talking about civil disobedience,

03:48and is also threatening that if these demands are not met,

03:52then we will do this.

03:54On the other hand, we see that Maulana Sahib has just left,

03:57but I think Maulana Sahib always speaks.

04:01What do you think?

04:02What news do you have?

04:03Yesterday you said that discussions are taking place,

04:05and discussions will reach a logical conclusion.

04:09You just heard the statements of the government people,

04:12and the former senior leader of Pakistan, Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf,

04:17who said that there has been no contact so far.

04:19So how will this discussion of civil disobedience proceed?

04:24Mr. Thawar, first of all, they have no other way than civil disobedience.

04:28But if they give another call,

04:30then you will not have anything left to face those marching people.

05:00Those who have a mainstream job,

05:04who have issues, or who are fighting,

05:08they have nothing to do with it.

05:11No, and if I ask you, Mr. Chaudhary,

05:13if you have some time, you can tell us,

05:16let's say a week, ten days, a month,

05:18will this discussion proceed?

05:20Because we are hearing this for a long time.

05:22It will proceed very soon.

05:24What do you mean by soon?

05:26Days, weeks, months, what?

05:28Days and weeks.

05:29Days and weeks, very good.

05:31What news do you have?

05:32You are smiling.

05:34You are telling me to write something on the wall.

05:38It was written on the wall,

05:39that one session of Sunni-Atheism,

05:41I will not meet him.

05:44The day the session was found,

05:46Mr. Chaudhary said that the youth will not be able to make a program.

05:50You have said it so many times.

05:51I have said it a thousand times.

05:52You yourself are talking about me.

05:55Mr. Chaudhary, listen to Mr. Chaudhary.

05:59Mr. Chaudhary, if you say that those who have voted,

06:04will not get a seat, and those who have not voted,

06:07will have to give it,

06:08then according to Islam, the constitution and the law,

06:10give me an answer.

06:12Yes, according to the constitution and the law.

06:13Mr. Chaudhary, look, the parliament has made a law,

06:16it is obvious, according to the constitution and the law.

06:18Go man.

06:19I did not want to talk about this.

06:21Look, what is happening now,

06:23Look, there should be negotiations.

06:25I was saying yesterday that the negotiations cannot be conditional.

06:29Negotiations, the parties have to keep their terms.

06:32No, they have to keep their terms, but they have to sit.

06:36And look, the second thing is,

06:37Is the government planning to sit?

06:38What is the news?

06:39Look, they will not sit conditionally.

06:41They will say that if you sit with an open mind,

06:42then you can sit and find a way.

06:43One thing.

06:44The second thing is that,

06:45the way you are protesting conditionally,

06:47when you are on a very strong wicket.

06:48Your final call has failed.

06:51Your protest could not stay here.

06:53You have run away from here.

06:54Who told you that the call has failed?

06:56Mr. Chaudhary, listen.

06:57You are coming to the table of negotiations.

06:59No, no, don't say that.

07:00So you cannot come with a threat.

07:02You have to come to the table of negotiations seriously.

07:05And you have to find a solution to the problem according to political wisdom.

07:10You don't have to do this,

07:11that if this happens, we will sit,

07:13otherwise we don't want to talk.

07:14Politicians always show their wits.

07:16And they always take advantage of their wits.

07:19In the end of the day,

07:20when Mr. Bhutto negotiated with India,

07:23then after the war,

07:24I don't know how much of his land he brought back from India.

07:27So the thing is that,

07:28no, no,

07:29the way you go,

07:30the negotiations always give success to those who sit.

07:33Conditional and unconditional negotiations.

07:35I don't know what you are discussing, Mr. Khawar.

07:38I am standing here.

07:41The producer is insisting that

07:43ask Mr. Chaudhary that

07:45will the negotiations be conditional or unconditional?

07:49They have already been unconditional.

07:51Viewers, I hope you enjoyed our program.

07:55That's all for today.

07:56InshaAllah, we will meet again tomorrow.

07:58Allah Hafiz.

Imran forms committee for talks with ‘anyone’ - Experts' Analysis

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