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00:00The biggest issue in Pakistan right now is the judgment that has been reserved by the Supreme Court on the special sessions.

00:12Today, news has come from the media that the official version has not come yet.

00:18All the 13 judges who have heard this case have heard it in detail.

00:27This is an unprecedented event.

00:40This is a full-court bench.

00:42This is an important issue.

00:44The judgment has been reserved.

00:50It is expected that the judgment will be heard tomorrow.

00:55We will talk to the representatives of the Supreme Court, Raja Mohsen,

01:01to find out what the news is.

01:03It is an extraordinary event that the full-court bench had to hold a session before the judgment.

01:10The reason for the controversy is very basic.

01:15What is the reason?

01:17There are two or three options.

01:23Either the seats will remain with the government,

01:27which were given to them by the Election Commission.

01:30According to them, the Sunni Council is not present as a parliamentary party.

01:34It does not become a part of them.

01:35All the seats that were present in the house of the parliamentary parties,

01:40were divided between them at the level of the National Assembly and the Provincial Assembly.

01:47Do they remain with the government?

01:50Or do they remain with the Sunni Council?

01:53The third option that was being discussed when the case was being heard,

01:58was that if Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is present as a registered party,

02:05then why did it not get the seats?

02:08Why was that party denied?

02:11Because six or eight people from that party,

02:14who had submitted their own tickets with their own party,

02:18who had submitted the affidavit of the relationship,

02:22why were they declared independent?

02:25Therefore, there are many complex issues.

02:27We will discuss them.

02:28We will discuss these two possible developments.

02:35Yesterday, a little confusion was created.

02:39Yesterday, Haider Naqvi Sahab gave an opinion on this.

02:42That the people who are present in the house,

02:45their two-thirds majority can also have a constitutional amendment.

02:48The article of the constitution is Nazareen 239.

02:51I have also spoken to some constitutional experts on this.

02:54This is also a practice of the past.

02:56Hassan can also talk about this.

03:15This is the fundamental point.

03:17The total membership in the National Assembly is 336.

03:22The two-thirds majority is 224.

03:27The total membership of the Senate is 96.

03:31The two-thirds majority is 64.

03:36We will talk about this in our first story.

03:42What are the possible effects?

03:44First of all, let's put a chart in front of you.

03:47These are the seats of the Sunni Council.

03:50They have been distributed among other communities.

03:53They are contesting it in the Supreme Court.

03:56Among them, the Muslim League has 14 seats.

04:02The People's Party has 5.

04:04The JUIF party has 3.

04:09These are the total seats of the National Assembly.

04:13The Muslim League has 23 seats.

04:16The People's Party has 2.

04:18The Pakistan Muslim League has 1.

04:21The IPP has 1.

04:22The Sindh Assembly has 2.

04:24The MQM has 1 seat.

04:27The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly did not allow these seats to be distributed.

04:33That is why the election of the Senate has been suspended.

04:37Let's start with Hassan.

04:39Hassan, Article 239 is a total blur.

04:45There is no other reason for it.

04:47There is a rationale for it.

04:50Let's assume that some people are sick.

04:52It doesn't matter.

04:53Even if half the house is sick, it doesn't matter.

04:55But you have to fill in 224 seats.

04:59Yes, I have to.

05:00I don't have to fill in 224 seats.

05:02I have to fill in 288 seats for both the houses.

05:06Even if you fill in 64 seats for the Senate,

05:09if you have to do a two-thirds majority...

05:11You have to pass it separately.

05:12Yes, you have to pass it separately.

05:13But if you want it, you have to fill in 224 seats.

05:16It won't work with 208 seats.

05:17No, it won't.

05:18It won't work.

05:19There is no other reason for it.

05:20That is why all eyes are focused on the Supreme Court

05:26and the Supreme Court's decision regarding the exclusive seats.

05:30Had it not been for this reason...

05:31Yesterday, Haider Naqvi, our brother,

05:33was saying that he had a misunderstanding.

05:35That is why I said that it is necessary.

05:37That is why when you were discussing yesterday,

05:40I tried to tell Haider that he might have a misunderstanding.

05:44These numbers are required.

05:46These exclusive seats won't be available until then.

05:49But you should also see that the issue of exclusive seats

05:52is not limited to the National Assembly.

05:54Because the seats of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa of the Subahi Assembly

05:57will affect the Senate.

06:00There will be a difference.

06:02So, the numbers are clubbed according to the exclusive seats.

06:09Let me show you.

06:12Let me show you the total number of seats in the Senate.

06:19There are 24 seats in the People's Party,

06:2319 seats in the PTI,

06:2419 seats in the Muslim League,

06:265 seats in the Opposition,

06:285 seats in the Free Senators,

06:304 seats in the BAP,

06:313 seats in the MQM,

06:323 seats in the ANP,

06:331 seat in the National Party,

06:341 seat in the BNP,

06:351 seat in the Muslim League.

06:37So, out of those 11 seats,

06:38if Sunni Ijtihad Council gets those seats,

06:41then some other party will get 11 seats.

06:45If they get those seats,

06:47according to the current election commission,

06:51then 3 to 4 senators will go to the government.

06:58Still, the majority party in the Senate will be Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.

07:06Mr. Naqvi, this is a very important issue.

07:09You always have an opinion on it.

07:12There is an objection that you talk about the same issue every day.

07:15Because in the coming days of Pakistan,

07:19there will be a debate on it.

07:21After the Supreme Court's decision,

07:23the Senate and National Assembly will have a big impact on the political scene of Pakistan.

07:33I need your comments on this.

07:37Let's assume that the decision comes that the Supreme Court,

07:43because the Supreme Court cannot rewrite the constitution,

07:46the Supreme Court sends it back to the National Assembly.

07:50And says that you decide.

07:52And if the National Assembly decides that

07:57the total number of representatives of this five-year assembly is not 336,

08:07but 313,

08:09and if it is legalized, then what will be done?

08:12No, it will have to be legalized to change the number.

08:16A constitutional amendment is also required for that.

08:18I am talking about the constitutional amendment.

08:22What do you say after that?

08:24No, it cannot be done.

08:26Let's say it can be done.

08:28No, it is not possible.

08:30It is not possible in the constitution.

08:33If you have to do even one work of the National Assembly or the Assembly,

08:37then you need approval for the delimitation.

08:40You have to amend the constitution.

08:42I am talking to Mr. Chaudhary.

08:44Let me finish my answer.

08:46Okay, let's move on.

08:48Okay, let's move on.

08:50Even the Sunnis and the consuls cannot get this amendment.

08:53Because even the constitution says that

08:55none of their amendments can go to the National Assembly.

08:58So, I am going to...

09:00No, what will happen then?

09:02Okay, let me finish my answer.

09:04I raised this question first,

09:06so that I can get the answer to the second question.

09:08Let me finish my answer.

09:10No, let me finish my answer.

09:12Okay, let me finish my answer.

09:14Article 51 of the constitution says,

09:17which we go to the constitution again and again,

09:19it says that

09:21you cannot keep the sessions of the National Assembly or Senate

09:24vacant for more than 120 days.

09:27So, there is a consensus on this point

09:29that these sessions have to be filled.

09:32Either side has to know one or the other side.

09:35Sir, this is my question.

09:37How will they be filled?

09:39Sir, listen to me.

09:41If the last 120 days are left,

09:43then you don't hold the elections.

09:45There is no Zimni election.

09:47But in the beginning,

09:49the way this term is going on,

09:51it will not remain vacant.

09:53No, no, that is not about Zimni.

09:55That is a wrong reference.

09:57So, tell me, what is the Sunni movement?

09:59I want to know this answer.

10:01Okay, I will go to Mr. Chaudhary.

10:03Why are you giving this answer?

10:05Sir, let me tell you.

10:07One thing is that you and Hassan are giving this argument

10:09that the Sunni Council cannot meet.

10:11We are assuming.

10:13Sir, I am saying the same thing.

10:15The fundamental question that we have framed,

10:17that question is that

10:19either side has to go to the seats.

10:21Okay?

10:23Either they have to go or they have to go.

10:25You are assuming, aren't you?

10:27No, no.

10:29Sir, I am saying the same thing.

10:31You are assuming, aren't you?

10:33If you had to go,

10:35then listen,

10:37if you don't want to go,

10:39then there must be a reason behind it.

10:41That is what the case is

10:43lying in front of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

10:45They have to explain

10:47that what is the solution

10:49to this allegation.

10:51So, the Parliament will decide

10:53the explanation of the allegation.

10:55No, sir, according to the constitution of Pakistan,

10:57if there is an allegation in the constitution,

10:59the Parliament will decide

11:01the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

11:03Look, the Supreme Court of Pakistan

11:05has to decide

11:07the explanation of the allegation.

11:09Because there is a big problem

11:11in this.

11:13According to the constitution of Pakistan,

11:15it is wrong or right.

11:17You and I can object to it

11:19that this explanation is wrong or right.

11:21Or the constitution has been rewritten or not.

11:23This was my question.

11:25This is the love of the Supreme Court.

11:27The Supreme Court has to do it.

11:29This is the appeal of the Supreme Court.

11:31There is no explanation in the constitution.

11:33Why are you confusing the viewers?

11:35This is the appeal of 185

11:37against the decision of the Peshawar High Court.

11:39There is no presidential reference

11:41for the explanation in the Supreme Court.

11:43Yes, this was my question.

11:45This is the appeal of 185.

11:47On this,

11:49the opinion of the judges

11:51is that 187 can also be used.

11:53But anyways,

11:55we wait for the judgment.

11:57We don't go on that.

11:59But I am telling you

12:01that we are discussing

12:03why this issue is being discussed.

12:05The reason is that

12:07there are many intricacies in it.

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