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00:00Quickly, first Mr. Saqib, you tell me, the latest development,

00:06let's try to understand it.

00:08Is it normal or abnormal?

00:12What is the secret behind it?

00:15A few hours before, it comes that the cause list has been set,

00:18these three judges will announce the decision tomorrow at 9 am.

00:21Then it comes that no, no, no, all the judges will announce the decision at 12 am.

00:26Is this a common thing or what is happening?

00:30This is not normal.

00:32Until these three judges came up with the cause list,

00:36it could have been considered normal.

00:38Because generally, even if there are no judges in the bench,

00:43at the time of the announcement,

00:45the head of the bench should announce the decision,

00:48there is no harm in that.

00:50Because the decision that 13 judges have made,

00:52the decision is the same.

00:53No doubt, only three judges should sit and announce it.

00:55But this is an extraordinary situation,

00:58because the cause list has been set again an hour ago.

01:02This means that since then,

01:04there has been a confusion, a debate has been generated.

01:08One thing is very clear,

01:10that somewhere inside the Supreme Court,

01:13this has been discussed and pointed out,

01:16that all judges should sit, instead of three.

01:19And it is possible that the decision of three

01:21was made by the Chief Justice's Chamber,

01:24that only three should sit and announce the decision.

01:26So that is why they have made the cause list again.

01:29Mr. Saqib, as a layman,

01:31I will ask a very simple question,

01:34you answer it in the same way,

01:35so that it is clear for us and the viewers.

01:37Why is it important and relevant?

01:39The decision has been made,

01:40so there is no need to listen to anyone else's arguments.

01:42In fact, there is no need to make any further adjustments in the decision.

01:45So, should three people come and announce it,

01:47or should the rest feel,

01:48why three, why not us?

01:49Why is this important?

01:50The decision has to be read,

01:52and the matter is over.

01:53Isn't that what happened yesterday?

01:55No, it is exactly like that.

01:56Even if three people had come and announced it,

01:57there was no harm in that.

01:58But, let's call it a disagreement,

02:01or the opinions,

02:03the judges who have different opinions,

02:06are being exposed by this.

02:08They are exposing the decision.

02:09Otherwise, as I said,

02:10there was nothing beyond the decision

02:12made by 13 judges.

02:14The same decision had to be read at 9.

02:16The same decision has to be read at 12.

02:18And tomorrow, no judge has to give any comment,

02:20no dialogue, no remark.

02:22They just have to come and read it.

02:23No, nothing.

02:24They have to come, sit down,

02:25and announce the decision.

02:27It is a very simple matter.

02:29And the interesting thing is that

02:32earlier it seemed that

02:33it would be shown live at 9,

02:35or not.

02:36The bench, because it is a three-member bench,

02:38the regular bench is not shown live.

02:40But, now it is that

02:41it will be shown live at 12.

02:44Because, all the cases of the specific judges

02:46have been shown live,

02:48all the hearings.

02:49So, this will also be live,

02:50and the whole world

02:51will be able to see it in Pakistan.

02:52Okay.

02:53And tell me one more thing,

02:54that what I said earlier,

02:55that one case,

02:57a high-profile case,

02:58which has seven hearings,

02:59if I am recalling it correctly,

03:01has been shown live for hours.

03:03The decision has been secured.

03:04After that,

03:05apparently,

03:06the judge sitting for hours

03:07on the same decision,

03:09this is also unusual.

03:11And if yes,

03:12why is it so?

03:13Why?

03:14Why is he sitting?

03:15What happened?

03:16What does this tell us?

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03:18This is not unusual.

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03:55The first thing is that in Article 51 of the Constitution, the proportionate has been mentioned

04:06that according to the quantum of seats, the political party that wins or joins will get

04:13reserve seats.

04:14In that Article 51, it is not written anywhere that the political party that wins or joins

04:24will get reserve seats.

04:26The second thing is that in the rules, it is provided that you have to give a list,

04:34which is mentioned in Section 104 of Article 4, that you have to give a list of candidates

04:42in this time.

04:43This has not been given.

04:44First of all, I would like to talk about the adjudication on merit rather than the technicalities.

04:51In the circumstances in which this election took place, you know that in Pakistan, there

04:56was no doubt that the election might take place.

04:59And with one or two political parties, there was a match situation, left out, right out,

05:05penalty stop, penalty corner, etc.

05:07There was no knowledge of that.

05:09It was a puzzling situation.

05:11In the meanwhile, a judgment of the Supreme Court came, which now the Supreme Court says

05:15that our decision has been misinterpreted.

05:18Article 186, which is the Constitution of 1973, if Zulaf Qarli Bhutto's reference goes

05:25and the court reviews it, corrects it, that Article 10, which is the Constitution of 1973,

05:33is missing in Zulaf Qarli Bhutto's trial and he corrected it.

05:37Yes, if this is a mistake on the part of PTI, then it can also be corrected.

05:43A three-day opportunity can also be given.

05:46What is the fault of the voters who brought the vote?

05:50The question arises, I vote for Zaid.

05:54My affiliation with the state is vote.

05:57If my vote is given to someone else, then my loyalty to the state is diverted.

06:04This is a question of fact and a question of loyalty to the state as well.

06:10The second thing is that a person gives a 100-number paper,

06:17can he be given 120?

06:19He can put as many flowers and flowers as he wants and attempt the paper,

06:24but it cannot be given.

06:26Now the question arises, can he get it or not?

06:29Yes, he can get it.

06:31See, the people who have won the quantum of seats,

06:35give them their right.

06:37What right do you have to distribute these seats to someone else?

06:41This is written in Constitution 51.

06:43This is written in Article 104 of the Four Elections Act.

06:46It is not written.

06:48So we have to see what the law is.

06:51In my personal opinion, I am hopeful,

06:53the matter is subdued before the Supreme Court.

06:57Tomorrow that has been fixed for the pronouncement of judgment.

07:00In my personal opinion,

07:02these seats will be given to those who have the right.

07:05And in that, Sunnis or PTI,

07:08I am giving this statement categorically,

07:10they are entitled.

07:12In my opinion, you can disagree with me,

07:15these seats will be given to them.

07:16I have given a very sweeping statement.

07:18Yes, absolutely right.

07:19At least go to the extent of this program,

07:21the State and PTI are on the same page.

07:23After the break, come here.

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