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00:00The after-effects of the events of the week are still felt today.
00:07Even today, Ali Meen Gandapur has repeated the same events in his speech, which he had told earlier.
00:12Barrister Gaurav Ali Khan is with us.
00:14Mr. Bairster, thank you for coming to the program.
00:16You are the Chairman of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
00:18And you were the most important figure of that day.
00:20Because you were seen going to KP House.
00:23You came out of there.
00:24People tried to ask you questions.
00:26I will come to all that, but perception has become one.
00:29When I spoke to the people close to Ali Meen, the day he was missing,
00:35they said, CM KP is missing.
00:37We heard the statement of Asad Qaisar yesterday.
00:40Umar Ayyub and Mr. Jhagra said yesterday.
00:45They said, our Chief Minister, see what is happening.
00:48This was the perception, after which Ali Meen came and told a story.
00:52That story, as I was telling yesterday, Imran Riaz put it on his page,
00:56which is a very popular page,
00:58what do you think, how many people believe in this story.
01:01Till then he said, there were 75,000 answers.
01:0488% of them said, we don't believe.
01:06This is the background.
01:07I said, set the background.
01:09Even today he gave a speech.
01:11And before I go to the facts,
01:14you are endorsing the story he is telling.
01:17Look, your perception is right that people perceive.
01:22And every person perceives something
01:24which has its own propensity,
01:26that this is what I am going to believe.
01:32Yes, this is exactly the story,
01:34which Ali Ameen has said,
01:36and I fully endorse it.
01:38The reason being,
01:43I have no reason to believe otherwise,
01:45than what he has said.
01:46This is absolutely right.
01:48Let me tell you, some things,
01:50Mr. Kashyap, are so important and serious,
01:53that an ordinary irresponsible attitude
01:56can start a fire.
01:58It is a matter of throwing a match,
02:00and it starts a fire,
02:01and the buildings get destroyed.
02:03I got this news,
02:05which I saw in the group,
02:07and I saw that the KP house was surrounded by the police.
02:11Then I realized,
02:12if it is surrounded from all sides,
02:14then what will happen?
02:15I didn't spend two minutes,
02:17I left everything including the computer on,
02:20and I rushed towards the KP house.
02:22I came from Margalla Road to the KP house.
02:24When I was going, all the roads were closed.
02:27The police were standing from all sides.
02:30When I saw this,
02:31I am so thankful to that gentleman,
02:33I wrote his name,
02:34because he was so nice.
02:36His name was Hadi.
02:37He was the assistant commissioner of the secretariat.
02:39He saw where the chairman was.
02:41I said, I have to reach there.
02:42This is a serious matter.
02:43I have to.
02:44And this is what he said,
02:46that no one has permission.
02:48I will park my car in front of you.
02:50You come with me.
02:51I will stand in front of the PTV.
02:53I will ask inside.
02:54You can wait in your car.
02:56If you get permission, then you can go.
02:58This I want.
03:00And you got this news immediately?
03:02I got this news,
03:04which came in the group,
03:06that this has happened.
03:07So I didn't spend five minutes.
03:09The moment I saw,
03:10because I knew what happened last time.
03:12For instance,
03:15Last time, he was missing for seven hours.
03:17No, I am not just talking about that.
03:19I am talking about Islamabad High Court,
03:21that when such a thing happens on premises,
03:23then sometimes things go out of hand.
03:25That's why we have to assess the maturity.
03:27So that there is no political reaction.
03:29So that there is no political reaction,
03:31and you find out the truth yourself.
03:33But with this,
03:35the moment I entered,
03:37that he was missing for seven hours.
03:40And his entire cabinet,
03:42his translation,
03:44his family was saying that he is missing.
03:46After that suddenly,
03:48he is missing again.
03:50Do you remember what the rumours were at that time?
03:52This is a very unfortunate thing.
03:54Extremely unfortunate.
03:56That a prime minister,
03:58and this reflects,
04:00what kind of law is there in this country,
04:02that a prime minister,
04:04if he is not coming for six hours,
04:06two hours, one hour,
04:08so where is he?
04:10I will show you the actions of your party.
04:12I will tell you.
04:14These three statements,
04:16your most important leaders,
04:18they put everyone on the path
04:20that they have been abducted.
04:22He has been abducted.
04:24He has been arrested.
04:26He is the elected minister of a province.
04:28He is the head of the province.
04:30The way you have abducted a chief minister,
04:32we oppose it.
04:34The fact is that Ali Amin Khan Gandapur
04:36is still missing.
04:38He will think that either he is a hostage
04:40or he is Yargamal.
04:42Abduct means kidnapped.
04:44Yargamal is a hostage.
04:46This is what your party was saying.
04:48Now I am saying,
04:50why don't they say this?
04:52What other option did they have?
04:54You do the environment, sir.
04:56When I came to KP House,
04:58Kurat-ul-Ain was inside the gate.
05:00The rest of the journalists were inside.
05:02The police were searching.
05:04They were going door to door.
05:06There were 110 rooms there.
05:08They were searching.
05:10When you reached there for the first time,
05:12were you allowed to go inside?
05:14Yes, of course, they let me go inside.
05:16Is the red zone sealed?
05:18No, no, no.
05:20The red zone is not sealed.
05:22People are not allowed to go inside.
05:24There were families living in KP House.
05:26They were also there.
05:28Journalists were also there.
05:30It was all of a sudden.
05:32There were a lot of journalists outside.
05:34That's why they cordon off.
05:36The police were also inside.
05:38When I went there,
05:40I didn't meet Ali Amin.
05:42Who did you meet?
05:44The police were there.
05:46I met the police.
05:48I saw it with my own eyes.
05:50I went to his NXE.
05:52This is what I saw.
05:54Ali Sahib was not there.
05:56It was a true perception.
05:58Maybe he ran away before coming here.
06:00Maybe he was here.
06:02He was checking the room.
06:04As Ali Amin Sahib said in his speech.
06:06He was searching.
06:08From the same time,
06:10when he was searching,
06:12when I came out,
06:14this is the first time I saw
06:16how the police were watching.
06:18I came out from here.
06:20I went back to Margalla Road.
06:22The gates were closed.
06:24The gates were closed.
06:26The gates were on the road.
06:28I went back for the second time.
06:30I got back to the KP house.
06:32I came back for the second time.
06:34I have a question about the first time.
06:36You went back.
06:38You told your political committee
06:40and some friends of the party.
06:42I am coming back to that.
06:44You have been told that
06:46the call of the protest,
06:48he is safe.
06:50Let's clear this topic.
06:52I went out.
06:54I came back for the second time.
06:56When I came to the KP house for the second time,
06:58I told them to take me back.
07:00I told them to take me back.
07:02My car was white.
07:04My car was white.
07:06His name was Abdullah.
07:08He was speaking Pashto.
07:10He was an assistant commissioner.
07:12I used to ask his name.
07:14I used to ask his name.
07:16I used to write my name.
07:18I used to write my name.
07:20I asked him.
07:22He said,
07:24let's get you out of here.
07:26When I came back,
07:28there were two members of the party.
07:30We wanted to come back to the KP house
07:32to see what is happening in the KP house.
07:34This was the third time.
07:36Hamid Reza and Firdous Shahi were with you.
07:38This was the third time.
07:40Hamid Reza and Firdous Shahi were with you.

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