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00:00Sir, Mr. Saheb, tell us, when Mr. Gandapur, like before,

00:05this is the second time,

00:06when he was out of contact for a few hours,

00:10I think the last time he was out for 7 hours,

00:12and this time for 24 hours.

00:13So, the PTI and Qayyadat,

00:15you said that he was forcibly lost,

00:18but Mr. Umar Ayub, Mr. Asad Qaisar,

00:21kept saying that the agencies have been taken away.

00:24And when Mr. Gandapur came back,

00:27both the last time and this time,

00:29let's talk about Mr. Asad Qaisar,

00:30he didn't say anything like that.

00:32So, obviously, one of these two can be right.

00:35Either his statements are right,

00:37or Mr. Gandapur's statement is right.

00:39So, it can be said, it is safe to assume,

00:41that this time also, Mr. Gandapur,

00:43who was out of contact for so long,

00:45the PTI and Qayyadat,

00:47misinterpreted,

00:49what should I say,

00:50misinterpreted in soft language,

00:51that the agencies were taken away,

00:53because KPK's CM did nothing like that.

00:57Look, Mr. Badani,

00:59if you look at the situation,

01:01in my opinion,

01:02the chain of events,

01:04the way the facts unfold,

01:07things come in front of you,

01:10and sometimes,

01:11some developments,

01:12obviously, when you see them,

01:14you don't have any interpretation or explanation for it,

01:17but after a while,

01:18when you link things,

01:20things come in front of you.

01:21Look, the way this,

01:23the way the police and the rangers,

01:25were raided the house,

01:27the statements that came to us at that time,

01:29were naturally,

01:30that maybe Ali Amin Gandapur,

01:32has been arrested,

01:33because he had gone there to be arrested,

01:35and he had no other purpose.

01:37So, when he went there,

01:39and for several hours,

01:40the KP house,

01:42was under some kind of illegal occupation,

01:45and there was no contact with Mr. Gandapur,

01:47and the staff,

01:48who were in contact with him,

01:49said that they were forcibly taken out of there,

01:52and asked them to leave,

01:53and vacate the house,

01:54or else we will arrest you as well.

01:56So, this is what happened to us,

01:58this is what we could have guessed,

01:59that maybe he has been arrested.

02:01So, it was a thought,

02:02it was a suspicion,

02:03that maybe the agencies have taken him,

02:04that suspicion was proved wrong.

02:05Yes.

02:06But, what happened?

02:07The words that I used,

02:09if you look at my statement,

02:10I used careful words,

02:12and they were,

02:13I said,

02:14he has been forcibly taken out,

02:15he has been forcibly taken out.

02:16Yes.

02:17He was taken out,

02:18we had no information as to where he was,

02:20but we knew that,

02:21even if he is missing,

02:22either he is in their custody,

02:24and they are not declaring him,

02:26or,

02:27the circumstances are such,

02:28that he is missing,

02:29he is missing,

02:30and he is under force.

02:32The circumstances have become such,

02:33that he had to disappear.

02:35So, our claim,

02:37later when Mr. Gandapur came forward,

02:39and he spoke on the assembly floor,

02:41so, because he is the witness of these incidents,

02:44all this has happened with him,

02:46so, definitely,

02:47we should believe what he said,

02:49because,

02:50to contradict what he said,

02:52to reject what he said,

02:54there is no other evidence or fact.

02:56But you know that,

02:57Asad Qaisar sahib,

02:58Umar Ayub sahib,

02:59kept saying that,

03:00he has been taken out.

03:01So, was that an assumption,

03:02which proved to be wrong?

03:03Is that what you are saying?

03:04No, see,

03:05every person presents their own interpretation.

03:07An incident took place,

03:08a raid took place,

03:09people came,

03:10in hundreds of people,

03:11rangers and police came,

03:12beat up people,

03:13threatened the staff there,

03:14that poor security officer,

03:16he shot him with a gun,

03:18laid him on the ground,

03:19tortured people,

03:20broke cars,

03:21broke doors,

03:22and there was no contact with Gandapur sahib.

03:24So, what do we think,

03:25that this was it,

03:26that either they kidnapped him,

03:27and took him away,

03:28but,

03:29the party leaders,

03:30talked about kidnapping,

03:31or illegal harassment,

03:32because,

03:33there was no warrant against them,

03:35and,

03:36neither could they arrest Gandapur sahib,

03:38because,

03:39from Peshawar High Court,

03:40he was on bail,

03:41in all the cases.

03:42And then,

03:43the minister,

03:44Khyber Pakhton,

03:45an elected minister,

03:47a jury,

03:49the Wafati police,

03:50couldn't even enter without permission.

03:52But,

03:53the way they entered,

03:54the way they attacked,

03:55and,

03:56after that,

03:57when there was no contact with Gandapur sahib,

03:59then,

04:00it could be assumed,

04:01that,

04:02either they were kidnapped,

04:03which was definitely,

04:04illegal harassment,

04:05I gave a little guarded statement,

04:07and,

04:08I said,

04:09forced kidnapping.

04:10In forced kidnapping,

04:11it is possible,

04:12that someone comes to your house,

04:13and arrests you,

04:14or,

04:15arrests you,

04:16and,

04:17doesn't declare your custody legally.

04:18Or,

04:19you come into a situation,

04:20where,

04:21you have to be on some side,

04:22or,

04:23you have to be opposed.

04:24Sir,

04:25let's move on,

04:26to the next questions,

04:27but,

04:28aren't you giving a loose ball,

04:29to your political opponents,

04:30or others,

04:31that they will say,

04:32look sir,

04:33they give such,

04:34inappropriate statements,

04:35about Pakistan's forces,

04:36they say,

04:37the people of the army took me,

04:38and,

04:39about whom they say,

04:40he came twice,

04:41he didn't even say once,

04:42that sir,

04:43they took me.

04:44So,

04:45they are giving statements,

04:46based on assumptions.

04:47I am not talking about your statement,

04:48but,

04:49as I am saying,

04:50Mr. Omar Ayub,

04:51and many others,

04:52so,

04:53you can be accused of this,

04:54right?

04:55Yes,

04:56look,

04:57listen to me,

04:58then I will repeat the same thing,

04:59that in such a situation,

05:00where you are not getting information,

05:01you can only make assumptions,

05:02and,

05:03assumptions,

05:04assumptions,

05:05right?

05:06They are assumptions,

05:07sometimes,

05:08they are close to reality,

05:09sometimes,

05:10they are far from reality.

05:11So,

05:12surely,

05:13this arrest,

05:14which was done,

05:15which was raided,

05:16on KP house,

05:17and,

05:18as a result of which,

05:19if they would have been arrested there,

05:20then this arrest,

05:21surely,

05:22would have been as a result,

05:23of an illegal act.

05:24Yes,

05:25if it would have been.

05:26Now,

05:27Mr. Saif,

05:28the confusion that increased,

05:29in both the episodes,

05:30that increased,

05:31because,

05:32Ali Amin sir,

05:33could not be contacted.

05:34Otherwise,

05:35there would have been no confusion,

05:36if he would have said to anyone,

05:37that,

05:38brother,

05:39I am fine.

05:40So,

05:41then,

05:42Ali Amin sir,

05:43could not be contacted,

05:44because,

05:45he was in a very important meeting,

05:46so,

05:47there was no signal there,

05:48so,

05:49how could he have been contacted?

05:50So,

05:51why could he not be contacted this time?

05:52Where did the phone go this time?

05:53Listen to me,

05:54listen to me.

05:55Yes.

05:56At that time,

05:57he had gone,

05:58there was a meeting at a specific place,

05:59where jammers were installed,

06:00and,

06:01he could not be contacted.

06:02And,

06:03I was the one,

06:04who was interacting with the media,

06:05and saying that,

06:06we could not be contacted,

06:07so,

06:08we are worried.

06:09Later,

06:10he explained,

06:11that,

06:12it is not logical,

06:13and the reason for that,

06:14is that,

06:15that was another situation,

06:16and this was another situation.

06:17No,

06:18Mr. Shahid,

06:19both of them,

06:20happened exactly twice.

06:21One time,

06:22the CM,

06:23for many hours,

06:24was not contacted.

06:25Both times,

06:26the leadership of the party,

06:27said that,

06:28the agencies have taken him away.

06:29Both times,

06:30he came to Manzar-e-Aam,

06:31and both times,

06:32he did not confirm anything.

06:33Let me tell you one thing,

06:34he confirmed it,

06:35he explained it,

06:36he also explored the assembly,

06:37what could be a more sacred and blessed place,

06:38than this,

06:39for the elected people.

06:41Right.

06:57No,

06:58his background is,

06:59let me say it openly,

07:00his background is,

07:01that,

07:02from the PTI,

07:03many people openly,

07:04and many people,

07:05off the record,

07:06are saying,

07:07let me say it openly,

07:08that,

07:09this match is fixed.

07:10Mr. Ali Ameen,

07:11obviously,

07:12I cannot tell you,

07:13from a moral point of view,

07:14that who among you,

07:15has this opinion,

07:16that,

07:17this is not like,

07:18that a person came out,

07:19from so many people,

07:20and then,

07:21he was not found,

07:22for 8-10 hours,

07:23and then,

07:24he suddenly appeared.

07:25So,

07:26this match was fixed.

07:27So,

07:28this is his background.

07:29So,

07:30my question is,

07:31that,

07:32why was he not able to come in contact,

07:33this time?

07:34Did he not have a telephone?

07:35Or,

07:36what was the matter?

07:37Because of which,

07:38we have also been on your TV,

07:39we have told you,

07:40that,

07:41when the rangers came,

07:42they were on the side,

07:43that is,

07:44they went to such a place,

07:45where they were not able to find the rangers,

07:47and their telephone,

07:48went into the hands of the rangers.

07:50The telephone was left there.

07:51An emergency situation arose,

07:52in which,

07:53they had to leave suddenly.

07:54They did not have a telephone.

07:56Today,

07:57let me tell you,

07:58if I pick up your telephone,

07:59and put it in my pocket,

08:00then,

08:01maybe you will not remember

08:02anyone's number,

08:03except your own number.

08:04Yes,

08:05he is right.

08:06And you are unconscious.

08:07So,

08:08how will you contact them?

08:09And after that,

08:10they left for KP,

08:11when the rangers,

08:12left from there.

08:13So,

08:14they left for KP,

08:15because,

08:16the whole area was around the rangers,

08:17or the police,

08:18and it was their territory,

08:19they were looking for it.

08:20So,

08:21they went to KP,

08:22which is near the district of Haripur.

08:23They reached there,

08:24the vehicle was arranged,

08:25and then they reached there,

08:26and from there,

08:27they came to Peshawar.

08:28So,

08:29definitely,

08:30there was no contact.

08:31And there was no such person with them,

08:32their phone was taken by the rangers,

08:33there was no such person with them,

08:34with whom they could contact,

08:35and he would tell them,

08:36to whom he wanted to tell,

08:37where he wanted to talk,

08:38he told them.

08:39He couldn't tell the rest,

08:40because,

08:41you know that,

08:42the phone is traced.

08:43Picking up the phone,

08:44and calling,

08:45means that,

08:46when you turn it on,

08:47your location starts getting traced.

08:48If you are a VIP,

08:49and you become a high value target.

08:50So,

08:51there were some people,

08:52who were aware of this,

08:53there were some people,

08:54who were aware of this,

08:55they knew,

08:56that he is alright,

08:57he is safe.

08:58I don't know,

08:59they didn't talk to me,

09:00but,

09:01because,

09:02they left from there,

09:03and went to KP,

09:04because,

09:05they wanted to save themselves,

09:06from illegal harassment,

09:07and it was their right,

09:08any Pakistani has the right,

09:09to save themselves,

09:10from illegal activities,

09:11in any way he can.

09:12So,

09:13that's why,

09:14they left the territory,

09:15of Wafaa's government,

09:16and went to KP.

09:17After that,

09:18their second car,

09:19whatever it was,

09:20their protocol car,

09:21or their government car,

09:22was all in KP house,

09:23and they left,

09:24in a private car,

09:25and when they entered KP,

09:26after that,

09:27they came to Peshawar,

09:28and it was night time,

09:29at that time,

09:30it was not possible for them,

09:31to contact anyone,

09:32but,

09:33I think,

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