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00:00Qazi Faiz Ishaa sahib and Mansoor sahib are saying that there is no difference between them and me. Is this the thought of the government?
00:06Look Kashif sahib, the most important thing is that it is not the job of the courts to decide the price of potatoes.
00:12Absolutely right.
00:13It is not their job to demolish the Nasla Tower.
00:17Go and stand in the jails. Who is drinking alcohol? Who is drinking honey?
00:22Then you go and bring the poor people of the Nasla Tower on the streets.
00:25Then you hang Bhutto sahib and tell him after 50 years that this is wrong.
00:29Then you damage billions of dollars in Recodec.
00:32You cancel a society. You call an SSP and ask him about DCU.
00:36The DCU that was here, Islamabad.
00:37Everything is correct.
00:38You humiliated it.
00:39I have agreed to everything you said.
00:41The court should be treated like a court.
00:44One thing is correct.
00:46The second thing is that this impression should also end.
00:49That there is a division in the courts.
00:51Under that division, PTI is benefiting.
00:54One, the courts have stood with PTI.
00:57The establishment has stood elsewhere.
00:59And the government, which is doing dangerous work,
01:02puts its burden on the shoulders of the establishment.
01:05And the perception comes that the establishment...
01:08Now you come to Chief Justice Faqazi Ishaq sahib.
01:12I have also appealed to him. He is the best man.
01:14And I have also appealed to Mansoor sahib.
01:18He is the best man.
01:19The problems that he told in his speech of Pakistan's courts,
01:23I think he is a very idealistic and a very good man.
01:27He is a very humble, good-natured man.
01:29So, Mr. Khokhar was saying,
01:33that neither should we think for ourselves,
01:37nor does the establishment have any role in this.
01:41If the government is playing around under the Democratic Party,
01:45and is giving someone a minus and someone a plus,
01:47then they should bear the burden.
01:48They should stand.
01:49Otherwise, they will be crushed in this.
01:51You stand or you sit.
01:53Now, the second thing that you...
01:55Do it.
01:56Do it.
01:57But the mistakes of the system,
01:59the mistakes of the courts,
02:01which you have counted,
02:02and every institution has made mistakes in the last 70-80 years.
02:04The courts have made a lot of mistakes.
02:05And I agree with you,
02:07that this kind of...
02:08But, just because of their shortcomings,
02:10like Mr. Balawal counts,
02:12that doesn't mean that the courts should be buried,
02:15should be demolished,
02:16and it will be fine to demolish them.
02:18The CM of KPK, who is speaking today,
02:21has any court taken notice of this?
02:23It is not the duty of the courts to take notice of this.
02:25He is saying that he will fire a bullet.
02:27He will answer with a bullet.
02:28Brother, KPK is a part of Pakistan.
02:31Our Pakistanis will not fire a bullet.
02:32No one's father can fire a bullet at them.
02:34But, if no one can fire a bullet,
02:37then no one's father can even give a sign
02:39that someone will fire a bullet.
02:40You are such a genius.
02:41You see, I and he have been friends.
02:42We have been colleagues even today.
02:44Our black seats have been divided,
02:45mine and Ghandapur's.
02:47But, has any court intervened?
02:49Here, the court intervenes.
02:51The court intervenes.
02:52Sir, listen to me.
02:54If the court intervenes in political matters,
02:56then you abuse them.
02:57You stand up and put pictures in the gatherings.
02:59Sir, if the court is giving this impression,
03:01then it is not the duty of the court to intervene in politics.
03:02I am sorry, sir.
03:03It is the duty of the politicians to intervene in political battles.
03:05Sir, you always talk about theoretical things.
03:07Sir, this is a practical thing.
03:08This is how the world works.
03:09If you say that it is not the duty of the establishment,
03:11then it is the duty of the courts.
03:12What is the impression today?
03:13The impression today is that the courts have stood up,
03:15one political party has stood up.
03:17No.
03:18The impression.
03:19If you look at it this way,
03:20the corruption that is happening somewhere,
03:22if it is stopped,
03:23it will be neutralized.
03:24What can I tell you?
03:25The tribunals are closed tomorrow.
03:27I was listening to Salman Raja,
03:29he said,
03:30what can I do in the tribunal?
03:31The decision will not come.
03:32This will be fine.
03:34You will become the CM of APK
03:36and fight the battle of Punjab and Pakhtunkhwa.
03:38No, that is wrong.
03:39You will fight the third class battle.
03:41You are Punjabi.
03:44I don't know if you saw the statement.
03:46What rubbish is he talking?
03:52No, don't do that.
03:53No, I am talking to you.
03:54What is he talking?
03:55It doesn't make sense.
03:56It doesn't make sense.
04:02See, this is the problem.
04:03Many times you say the wrong thing,
04:05but when you go here,
04:07it is time to cut your hair.
04:09Sir, listen to me.
04:10If you sit here and start talking,
04:12then what will you say?
04:14You are Mr. Basi of Kashmir,
04:15you are a big anchor,
04:16you are doing a show at 8 o'clock,
04:17so we will listen to all your nonsense.
04:19It's not the way.
04:20The court should have intervened at this time.
04:22What?
04:23The court should have taken notice of this
04:24that you are bringing a situation
04:26that will create a stir.
04:27You are bringing a situation that will create a fire.
04:29You tell me,
04:30if people have died,
04:31God forbid.
04:32God forbid.
04:33If people have died in Lahore,
04:34show their video, prove it,
04:36they will stand with you.
04:37But if you
04:39for politics,
04:40again on 9th May,
04:41or you are going to start that protest,
04:43or you want to come to that position,
04:45they will not let you do it.
04:46Sir, there is some protest going on,
04:48but yesterday you said,
04:49that statement,
04:50Mr. Ganapur's statement,
04:51I think that in the coming days,
04:53you will hear a lot of his nonsense.
04:55Yesterday we showed the whole program,
04:56on the same thing,
04:57I personally,
04:58such things,
04:59politicians,
05:00especially the Chief Minister,
05:01should not do.
05:02Because he also has an arrangement,
05:03there is also an arrangement here.
05:04Don't say that if you fire a bullet,
05:05we will destroy it.
05:06Because you know,
05:07how do you see it?
05:08Look,
05:09first of all,
05:10his statement is not right.
05:11And his choice of words,
05:12was completely wrong.
05:13Even before this,
05:14he gave one or two statements,
05:15which were not right.
05:16The choice of words was wrong.
05:17As the Chief Minister,
05:18he should not give such statements.
05:19Like he said earlier,
05:20that we will talk to Afghanistan,
05:21ourselves.
05:22While living in a system,
05:23it is okay,
05:24that system is not ideal.
05:25But in that,
05:26we, the Federation,
05:27are at the forefront.
05:28And he says,
05:29we will talk to Afghanistan,
05:30ourselves.
05:31And he says,
05:32we will talk to Afghanistan,
05:33ourselves.
05:34And he says,
05:35we will talk to Afghanistan,
05:36ourself.
05:37And he says,
05:38we will talk to Afghanistan,
05:39ourself.
05:40And he says,
05:41head, safety, cap, thousand,
05:42people will keep coming
05:43and going in power.
05:44Today,
05:45we are sitting here,
05:46it won't be ten years later,
05:47or five years later.
05:48Someone else will come.
05:49Someone else will come.
05:50The Federation is at the forefront.
05:51People keep coming.
05:52Don't harm our country.
05:53We have polarized politics so much.
05:54Today,
05:55the situation you see
05:56in the Supreme Court,
05:57is the result of that polarization.
05:58There is polarization
05:59in the media.
06:00There is polarization
06:01in other institutions.
06:02So now,
06:03we have to
06:04So if we want to pull the country back from this situation, then we will have to come together and come up with some basic principles.
06:14We are not ready to come up with those principles even today. In fact, we are making the situation worse.
06:19It doesn't suit the people who are sitting inside the government.
06:22No, it doesn't suit them either. And those who are in jail, they also need it.
06:25They are in desperation at this time.
06:28Coming back to the constitutional amendment, there is a base on this that the number of cases is very high.
06:35And because of political cases, the cases of the common people are not being heard.
06:40At the moment, the pendency in the Supreme Court is close to 60,000 cases.
06:44Almost 450,000 cases are in the High Courts and more than 1.8 million cases are in the Sessions and lower courts.
06:52In these constitutional amendments, where the number of cases is the highest, there is nothing for them.
06:57There are no reforms for them.
06:59So your intention comes out at the same time.
07:02At this time, the dangers that our federation is facing, the politics has become meaningless.
07:09In Balochistan, you see...
07:11Sir, I want to say something quickly.
07:13Because he said that the court is on that side.
07:17What is the impression about the court?
07:20The level playing field case has come.
07:22Nothing has been done.
07:23What happened in the elections, the court was silent.
07:25They couldn't see it.
07:26They were saying it themselves.
07:27Listen, recounting, how many seats have gone?
07:30Which was not their job.
07:31Or it is said that the case should have gone back to the tribunals.
07:34Now the decision will come on 63A.
07:36So a lot has happened, which is being said.
07:38Because of which it is being said that they are going that way.
07:40You have 30 seconds.
07:41It plays both ways.
07:42Look, if you want to run the country, then you have to give the environment in your country.
07:46When will the environment come?
07:47When the court, establishment and democratic people sit on one pitch.
07:51What is better for Pakistan?
07:53What is good for Pakistan?
07:54Everything is possible.
07:55Is this possible?
07:56This is the way forward.
07:57Sir, is this possible?
07:58If not, then everything will be broken.
07:59Is this space available?
08:00Yes.
08:01What are the ways?
08:02Is there a table for you?
08:03Everything will have to be compiled.
08:04Court, establishment, democratic forces will have to sit together.
08:07Otherwise, you will have to sit with tears in your eyes.
08:11You have to sit.
08:12The place where the country has come.