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00:00These days, there is a lot of talk about negotiations.
00:03In every newspaper, there is a daily discussion with the journalists.
00:08Some say that negotiations are taking place, negotiations have been made, negotiations have not been made.
00:13Since yesterday, this news, the Muslim League Noon was held.
00:17After the meeting, the topic of negotiations came up that everyone should negotiate.
00:22All institutions should be a part of it. Negotiations with the opposition should also take place.
00:26This news was told to him after the Muslim League Noon meeting.
00:31When he spoke to Achak Zahid, when he had an informal conversation with him the day before yesterday,
00:39he confirmed that negotiations have been made on behalf of the Muslim League Noon.
00:44And Rana Sahib, who is directly responsible for negotiations with PTA, this was also news a day earlier.
00:50So this was a lot of build-up for the last 3-4 days.
00:53But suddenly, on one hand, the news of the Muslim League Noon meeting came.
00:57On the other hand, his denials began to come.
01:00Khair Sahib also said, I was also listening to Irfan Siddiqui Sahib today.
01:03He also said that until there is no pardon on 9th May, there are no negotiations.
01:09If you want to negotiate with Tariq-e-Ansaaf, then there will be some pardons.
01:15Everyone knows that the Muslim League Noon does not suit politically to negotiate with Tariq-e-Ansaaf.
01:22Because they are direct adversaries.
01:25There is almost a direct confrontation between the army and Tariq-e-Ansaaf.
01:31Imran Khan Sahib is also inside.
01:33Nobody wants him to come out.
01:36And in these circumstances, the Muslim League Noon has outsourced to sort out our opponents.
01:42Then we are saved.
01:44Otherwise, they find their political future very difficult.
01:48And this is the reason that all these decisions are made while looking at the political position.
01:54You will remember that after the 2013 election, Mian Sahib said that he went to Imran Khan Sahib's house.
01:59Because at that time, he was going to Imran Khan's house to negotiate with the position of strength.
02:04Now he feels that if we talk to Imran Khan Sahib,
02:07if there is any breakthrough, as a result, Imran Khan Sahib will come out.
02:10And the government of the Muslim League Noon, which is already a weak government,
02:14which is standing on its shoulders with great difficulty,
02:18may not last long.
02:20Therefore, negotiations do not suit the Muslim League Noon in this environment.
02:25People's Party is certainly talking about negotiations.
02:28Although I was pleasantly surprised that in the Muslim League Noon meeting,
02:32Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib said that institutions should also be set up.
02:35Everyone else should sit together and talk.
02:38But how to talk?
02:40With whom?
02:41And if there are such conditions,
02:43Tariq-e-Insaaf says that we just have to talk to the establishment.
02:46I don't even understand the logic that those with whom your biggest problem is going on,
02:52because of which you say that I am in trouble,
02:54why will they negotiate with you?
02:56Or as a result of those negotiations, how can you get any kind of relief?
03:01There is a voice of refusal from there that there will be no negotiations.
03:05But on the side of Tariq-e-Insaaf, one thing is being said again and again,
03:09and that is that if there is a dialogue, it will only be with the establishment, with the army.
03:15Mian Javed Latif Sahib is present.
03:17Let's try to find out from him what the Muslim League Noon is thinking.
03:20Mian Sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
03:25Mian Sahib, tell me this.
03:26I have been watching the statements for a long time.
03:29Sometimes it is said that there should be negotiations with Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:33Sometimes it is said that today, as Mian Sahib said,
03:37is this right?
03:38Has Mian Sahib offered any negotiation?
03:40Has this thought been shown that all political parties sit together,
03:44institutions sit together and talk?
03:49Thank you, Kashif Abbasi Sahib.
03:52I would like to request that the analysis that you did,
03:55the analysis that you presented,
03:58the news that you heard or read,
04:03or the information base that you are talking about,
04:07but I do not agree with this.
04:09There are two reasons for this.
04:10The first thing is that in the Muslim League Noon meeting,
04:14nowhere was it said that the PTI should be discussed.
04:19And nowhere was it said that the PTI should be negotiated.
04:28Now the second thing, as far as the opposition is concerned,
04:31all political forces should talk at all times and at all places.
04:37And in that, you are talking about Mahmood Khan Achakzai Sahib,
04:42he is very respectable for us.
04:45He has been united.
04:46And then the second thing is that he has always spoken within the framework of the law,
04:54but he has never spoken to the forces outside the framework of the law,
05:01or he has never said that we will talk to them.
05:05Sir, but I will come to Maulana Sahib separately.
05:08The Prime Minister is going to Maulana Sahib, Zardari Sahib is going.
05:12I also think that Maulana Sahib still cannot complete the numbers for you,
05:16neither in the National Assembly nor in the Senate.
05:18The only attempt is that Maulana and Imran Khan sit together.
05:21As I said, Tarziya says that you will not negotiate with Tariq-e-Insaab.
05:26Because its direct purpose is that if they get any relief,
05:29you will be at the greatest loss.
05:31And if Maulana goes and stands with Tariq-e-Insaab,
05:34you will also be at a loss.
05:35I don't think you need the assembly numbers as much as Maulana should go to Imran Khan's camp.
05:41I think that will be more of a fundamental interest for you
05:46that Maulana and Imran Khan's forces should not be united,
05:48that is, their street power should not be united.
05:50Before going into that, you are saying that talks should take place,
05:54not just in the assembly.
05:56First, clear this for me.
05:58You are saying that we have no objection to these principles of talks,
06:01but not in the assembly.
06:03No, no.
06:04No, no.
06:05If you allow me, I have not said at all that the talks should be with the PTI.
06:12I said that they should be with the opposition parties.
06:15And these things have definitely been discussed in that assembly.
06:21And what you are talking about the foundations,
06:24it is also true that talks should be with all stakeholders.
06:28The reason for this is that you are stuck in this game.
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