"PMLN Ka Koi Future Nahi Agar...", Mohammad Zubair Told Everything

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00:00I totally disagree with you.

00:03Thank you so much.

00:05First of all, you should thank me and then proceed.

00:09Thank you very much.

00:10Last time, all three of you agreed.

00:12If PMLN wanted all this, then what was the fight in 2016-17?

00:18What was it all about?

00:20First, they wrote a complaint.

00:22The government went.

00:23The elections were lost.

00:24They went to jails.

00:25Cases were filed.

00:26And if they wanted to do the same, they could have done it in 2017.

00:30If there was a Don Leaks, why was it a Don Leaks?

00:33What was the reason?

00:34There was nothing about it.

00:36The thing is, you always have a choice.

00:39Everyone has a choice.

00:41Do you succeed by doing two things?

00:43Or do you succeed by following good principles?

00:46What is the choice?

00:47The way you came to power, you are saying you have everything.

00:52You already had that choice.

00:55But why did you not exercise that choice?

00:57Why did you get rid of Ghulam Ishaq in 1993?

01:00You had a choice.

01:01Ghulam Ishaq was telling you not to get rid of him.

01:04Why did you get rid of Musharraf in 1999?

01:06And you got a military rule.

01:08You did one policy for 30 years.

01:10The policy of civilian abuse.

01:12Now you have come and said, no, no, sorry.

01:14Now we have to do power politics.

01:16And whatever it takes to gain power.

01:19But please understand,

01:20PMLN is not just about Mian Nawaz Sharif or Shibaz Sharif or Maryam Nawaz.

01:25PMLN has to survive also in the long run.

01:28So if there is democratic principle in Pakistan,

01:32and democracy prevails,

01:34then there will be no future for PMLN.

01:36Yes, if by doing such things,

01:39you again came to power with 17-20 votes,

01:42anyone can come.

01:44So according to that, I cannot argue with you.

01:47I cannot argue with you.

01:48Is this the only purpose?

01:50That you have to come to power?

01:51Or the purpose is that you have done the right politics,

01:56which is written in the Pakistan law,

01:58about civilian abuse.

02:00Otherwise, you got everyone beaten for 6-4 years.

02:04People like us were also crying.

02:07So we would have been in the government.

02:09Very easily in 2018, if you had compromised.

02:12So you did not compromise for the right reasons.

02:15Mr. Zubair will understand.

02:17No, no, he won't understand.

02:18No, he understood.

02:19Look, there are two votes now.

02:20I have got one vote.

02:21You are saying that politics is just about becoming a president.

02:24Politics is not just about this.

02:26Politics is about winning the next election.

02:29It is about popularity also,

02:31that you remain relevant with your politics.

02:34Don't become irrelevant by doing your politics.

02:36That's what good politics is.

02:37In your opinion, good politics is that I get four positions.

02:40I think if a political party remains relevant with its decisions,

02:45and remains in contention for the next election,

02:47that if it wins, it will get these positions anyway.

02:50You can take this guarantee.

02:52With a lot of respect.

02:5320 seconds, 20 seconds, and then 30 seconds.

02:55With a lot of respect from you and Mr. Zubair,

03:00after the 2013 elections,

03:02when I met Mr. Zubair for the first time,

03:04he was the chairman of the board of investment.

03:06He was very excited, we have to do this, we have to do that.

03:08He started doing something,

03:09and then he was taken to privatization.

03:11He did a very good privatization there,

03:14and the rest of the shareholders were finalized.

03:17Then PM Allen came and said,

03:19what kind of a person is he?

03:20He doesn't know how to work.

03:21We know how to do something else.

03:23He was removed again.

03:24He did all the work and went back.

03:26Mr. Zubair is an innocent man.

03:27Now he has come to know that PM Allen has done power politics.

03:30Those who know PM Allen,

03:32They say it's okay, but why do they fight?

03:34Listen, Mr. Abbasi.

03:36From 1990 onwards,

03:38whoever knows Mr. Nawaz Sharif,

03:41he has always done power politics.

03:43When did you feel that he has taken the flag of democracy here?

03:46He has taken the flag of votes.

03:49He has always done power politics.

03:51Sometimes he fails, sometimes he succeeds.

03:55But majority...

03:56I am talking about PTI politics.

03:57He has done a very good thing.

03:58He always takes good deals.

03:59He has been very successful.

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