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00:00As you can see, a committee has been formed with Kashif Abbasi on the issue of justice.
00:16Who will they negotiate with?
00:18No one is in touch with them yet.
00:21The government has said that the conditions they have set are not negotiable.
00:29What will this committee do?
00:32We have Asad Kaisar with us.
00:34Assalam-o-Alaikum, Asad Kaisar.
00:35Walaikum-as-salam.
00:36Asad Kaisar, all eyes are on the committee that has been formed.
00:42The day this high level committee was formed, Omar Ayub was arrested.
00:51Do you think you got the same answer from the government that day that how serious they are to negotiate with this committee?
01:00We have given a gesture.
01:04It is generally said about Mr. Khan that he doesn't talk, he doesn't listen.
01:11He has said before that there is always arrogance on the other side and he is not serious to talk to anyone.
01:20We are not just negotiating.
01:24We will also look at the political issues.
01:26We will share our plans with the political committees and co-committees.
01:30It is good that Mr. Khan has said that...
01:32But Mr. Khan, listen to me, can this committee also talk to politicians?
01:35Yes, of course.
01:37Our committee will join hands with politicians and we will also talk to politicians.
01:45But as you said, arrogance is on the other side.
01:48Everyone has been saying for months to talk to politicians.
01:52And there was a message from there that we will talk only to the establishment.
01:57In the end, you have to talk to politicians, Asad Kaisar.
02:01Look, you are right.
02:04But I just want to clarify that first of all, we will talk to politicians who are in opposition.
02:10We will talk to all the political parties, including the opposition parties.
02:19And we will build a consensus.
02:21We want the country to be trapped in this situation.
02:24What happened on the 26th is a bad omen in the history of Pakistan.
02:29It is a bad day.
02:31You must have never seen such bullets being dropped on your citizens.
02:36You must have never seen it.
02:38And I would like to ask you one more thing.
02:41First of all, doesn't the law of Pakistan give its citizens the right to do a permanent investigation?
02:47If they do that, they have made a law.
02:50The law that they have made, isn't Islamabad a part of Pakistan?
02:55If you can't do a protest in Islamabad, then you are violating the law.
03:01The law that is contrary to the law is not effective.
03:07That is why we say that this law is not legal.
03:10It is unconstitutional.
03:12It is of no use.
03:14Because they have only done it for their own arrangement.
03:17And our opinion about this assembly is that it is the government of the 47th.
03:21Anyway, we understand that the atrocities they have committed, the bullets they have fired,
03:26they have committed extremist fascism.
03:28They have attacked a very big democracy to destroy the democracy.
03:34And the people who have been martyred, the people who have been put in jail, the missing persons,
03:41I don't know where Pakistan will take them.
03:44I don't know where Pakistan will take them.
03:47I don't know where Pakistan will take them.
03:50This is a very dangerous thing.
03:52Especially Islamabad.
03:55At the moment, the people of our area, the Pakistanis, have become a threat to them.
04:02In Islamabad, the police, wherever there are poor people, they catch them.
04:08They are going to say something.
04:10Then they say, let's go.
04:12Then the business goes on.
04:14Okay, give me 35,000 rupees, give me 40,000 rupees.
04:16Islamabad and Punjab Police have made a lot of money.
04:18All those people, the business of money is booming.
04:22Our people are being harassed.
04:24I heard, sir, that a Pashtun boy was also stopped in our office.
04:28When he told me that he was working in ARY, I understood that it was racial profiling.
04:33I hope we will get out of it soon.
04:37But if I come back to the committee, sir, if you want to negotiate with the government,
04:43that is, the committee has been formed and there is a two-point agenda.
04:46Is your agenda only to make a judicial commission of this committee?
04:50Or will there be something beyond this?
04:52Because these are the two things you want.
04:55You want a judicial commission on 9th May and a judicial commission on 24th or 26th November.
05:01Now, obviously, if you sit with the government, then the government will also have some demands in the future.
05:05Do you have some freedom to believe in that too?
05:07Because these are the talks in politics on the basis of some people and some people.
05:11Look, the government is clarifying its agenda.
05:14Look, we have clarified our agenda.
05:16If they clarify their agenda, then we can consult, we can talk.
05:20What is his agenda?
05:21Nothing has come yet.
05:23Sir, Mr. Rana Sinhaullah has come to the agenda.
05:25I will tell you. Listen to this, Mr. Rana.
05:27Has it ever happened that you have made a committee and you have also decided that this committee will talk on these two issues.
05:35Both the issues are non-negotiable.
05:38The condition they have put, you tell me how can there be a negotiation on it?
05:42Yes, sir.
05:44Asad Qaisar says it is non-negotiable.
05:46How can there be a negotiation on it?
05:48Look, don't do it.
05:51Look, we have only shown the world that we are a democratic people.
05:56We believe in democracy.
05:58And we want a peaceful solution to the problem.
06:04If they don't want it, then what is the need for us?
06:07Look, our position is very clear.
06:11We will not back down from our position.
06:13Neither on the basis of pressure nor on the basis of fear.
06:17This is our country.
06:19No one can deprive us of our freedom.
06:22We will talk about it.
06:24We will take our opportunity.
06:26And we just want the country to know about the law and the constitution.
06:30You don't tell us anything else.
06:32You are an influence on the people.
06:35You pressurize the people.
06:37Sometimes you make videos of it.
06:41You do it in some way or the other.
06:43This country will not work like this.
06:45This country belongs to all of us.
06:47Sir, you are right.
06:49This country should work according to the constitution and the law.
06:51It has not worked in the last 76 years.
06:53It did not work in your time either.
06:55I can give arguments in a single line.
06:59How the law was broken.
07:02People were arrested.
07:04People were put in jails because of politics.
07:06People were put in jails for two years without a case.
07:08Politicians were put in jails.
07:10This has been our problem.
07:12I hope that now we will move towards improvement.
07:16And we will try to make the country work according to the constitution and the law.
07:19But let me come back to the committee.
07:21Despite all this, neither the government nor the establishment gave any answer to your committee.
07:26Because you said that we have come and we want to talk.
07:29You made a high power committee.
07:32Those who want to come should come for the discussion.
07:34You did this press conference yesterday.
07:38Did anyone come?
07:40Did anyone call?
07:41Did anyone send a message that yes, we want to meet?
07:44I told you that I had a phone call with a relative.
07:48I had come to Swabi.
07:50I just got released from there.
07:52We have a meeting at 10.30 pm.
07:54I will be able to tell you what the developments are.
07:57But I don't have any knowledge.
08:00Sir, you don't have any knowledge or you think that no one contacted you?
08:04I don't have any knowledge.
08:06Because I was busy.
08:08I just got released from there for your program.
08:12So, I just got released.
08:14But look, we have brought this country out of this swamp.
08:19And what you said is absolutely right.
08:21We will also make mistakes.
08:23There are more.
08:24Wherever this has happened in Pakistan, but now the situation is not like this.
08:28In the future, no one will be able to tolerate this.
08:32No law will be enforced.
08:34And this country will be able to survive.
08:36And at the moment, you have spoiled relations with the whole world.
08:39On the border of Pakistan, with Iran.
08:41You don't have such good working relations with China.
08:44You have the same old enmity with India.
08:48So, we should have a sensibility.
08:50We should think about how we can bring normalcy out of our country.
08:54And what we can do for our children, for better employment.
08:58And for this, we will have to get out of our ego.
09:01Our most important responsibility as a Pakistani state is
09:05that the fundamental rights of the people should be given to that country.
09:14This is not acceptable.
09:16The Pakistani people have not been able to tolerate this.
09:19Whether we do it or someone else does it.
09:21The government should do it.
09:22I agree with you that this country should be run in a better way.
09:26No country can run like this.
09:28The way we try to run our country.
09:32Instead of running the country, it is like an autopilot.
09:35We have to do this.
09:36And the rest of the work is done around it.
09:38But, I hope that this country will start running better.
09:44You have talked about civil disobedience.
09:50Is it right that the leadership of a politician thinks that this is an unacceptable act?
09:57No, there is nothing like that.
09:59We discussed this yesterday.
10:01We are preparing for this.
10:03We are debating on this.
10:05And we would like to meet Mr. Khan.
10:09And we will keep our point of view in front of him.
10:13What is your point of view?
10:14Should this be done or not?
10:17Look, we have restrictions.
10:19The government is saying that it does not want to talk.
10:22The government wants to put us against a wall.
10:25The government does not want to support peaceful protests.
10:30The government shoots people.
10:32The government puts people in jail.
10:34The government keeps people away from their rights.
10:36So, what option do we have?
10:38We do not have any other option.
10:40But, the decision that you announced is civil disobedience.
10:46So, in your opinion, this is the option.
10:48I remember, if you allow me, I will go back to 2014.
10:51You will also remember when the protest was going on.
10:53One day, Mr. Imran Khan announced that he was going to do something
10:58that would bring about a change in this country.
11:01And the next day, he announced civil disobedience.
11:04This was a failure at that time.
11:07Who will not pay the electricity bill?
11:09Who will live without electricity?
11:11Who will stop driving cars?
11:13Do you think this was a failure at that time?
11:16How will we succeed now?
11:19Look, at this time, the prestation is at its peak.
11:22Our brain drain is at its peak.
11:27All our young people are out of the country.
11:31There is no hope here.
11:32There is no employment here.
11:33There is no peace here.
11:34There is no justice here.
11:36The system of justice has spread here.
11:38No one is able to protect their dignity.
11:42When the law of the jungle is made,
11:44and all the power goes to the powerful,
11:46then the situation is that the people are very tired.
11:51And if someone like Imran Khan makes an appeal,
11:55it will have a lot of impact.
11:57But we are still discussing it.
11:59And we are still discussing it.
12:02We said that if there is nothing until the 13th,
12:06then we will do it.
12:07So, we are still looking at the 13th.
12:10We will see what happens on the 13th.
12:13Will there be a meeting on the 13th?
12:17Yes, sir.
12:18Will there be a meeting?
12:20Will it be in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?
12:21Will it be in Punjab?
12:22What will we do?
12:24We have made a plan for the 13th.
12:27We will hold a big meeting in Bagh-e-Naran.
12:32We will call 300-400 scholars and finish the Quran.
12:37We will read the whole Quran.
12:39It will not be like a regular Jalsa.
12:42It will not be like a Jalsa.
12:44We will finish the Quran for the martyrs.
12:48We will talk about it.
12:51The rest will be in the leadership of our party.
12:54Sir, how do you see the way forward?
12:59There are 15 days, 30 days, 45 days…
13:02You are looking at these two things.
13:04The civil disobedience and the Jalsa and the prayer meeting on the 13th.
13:10Is this what you are going to do?
13:12Or are you planning to come to Islamabad again?
13:44Sir, I would like to say something before we move on.
13:49In your statement, Ms. Bushra says that she was at D-Chowk at 12.30 am.
13:55Everyone left her alone.
13:56Ms. Ali says no.
13:58And at 11-11.15 am, I remember,
14:00there was news on TV that Ali Ameen and Ms. Bushra had left.
14:06I have seen a lot of differences within your party.
14:09Your Jalsa or Jaloos did not reach Islamabad.
14:13So, Barrister Saif said on TV that we could have gone to Sangiani.
14:18But someone else, i.e. Ms. Bushra, decided that we have to go to D-Chowk.
14:22Ms. Bushra's sister came.
14:24I think she came with her permission.
14:26She said that Ms. Bushra did not want to go.
14:28She forcibly kidnapped Ali Ameen and sent him away.
14:31Why?
14:32The internal differences within your party have increased during all this movement.
14:39Look, it is true that we have problems within our party.
14:45But within a democratic party, there are differences.
14:49One thing is very clear.
14:52I will tell you the whole story.
14:55Look, a party has differences and differences.
14:59There are differences.
15:01And there is only one leader.
15:02Leader is Imran Khan.
15:04There is no other leader.
15:05Everyone agrees with Imran Khan.
15:08So, there is nothing to worry about.
15:10We are discussing our issues with each other.
15:13We are discussing with the Bani Chairman as well.
15:16By the grace of God, everything will be fine.
15:18But the leader is in jail.
15:19The problem is that if the leader was outside, he would have been dealing with things himself.
15:24Your leader is in jail.
15:26Now, it seems that this debate is about who will make the decisions.
15:33BB says that she will make the decisions.
15:35Looking at Ali Ameen, it seems that he says that he will make the decisions.
15:38The political committee says that we will make the decisions.
15:40We are the political committee.
15:42The matter of pulling the strings is weakening the party's decision-making.
15:48It is weakening the party.
15:49Is that true?
15:50Look, the first thing is that the political committee is making the decisions.
15:59The discussion goes to the Bani Chairman and Imran Khan.
16:04The endorsement comes from there.
16:06Even now, we have decided that the committee that we have made,
16:10the political decisions that we will take,
16:12the initiatives that we will take,
16:14the proposals that we will take,
16:15because we have made five committees,
16:17the benefit of this is that we will do political consultation regularly.
16:22We will also look at the situation.
16:24Then we will keep the core committee and the political committee in trust
16:27and make a policy by communicating with Mr. Khan.
16:32So, this is the situation.
16:34It is difficult.
16:35There are challenges.
16:37But our...
16:38Sir, your challenge is very big.
16:39Let's talk about the challenge.
16:40The challenge is that no one is ready to listen to you.
16:43In different times, when Asad Qaisar Sahib,
16:46when Tariq-e-Insaf Islamabad,
16:48generally the channels of negotiations open,
16:50if you remember, when Mr. Khan was coming in May 2022,
16:54three people were brought to Islamabad in a helicopter.
16:57Offers were made.
16:58Generally, there are offers.
16:59This time, there is only one offer.
17:01Where do you want to sit?
17:02They say, we don't want to talk to you.
17:04You don't want to give any space.
17:06You don't want to listen to anything.
17:07Imran Khan will not come out.
17:09No PTI will be listened to.
17:10Is what I am saying right?
17:13In a way, no one is ready to talk to you right now.
17:17Look, whether someone talks or not,
17:20we don't have any problem.
17:22We are ready for our challenges and our opportunities.
17:26Sir, I am not saying that you have a problem.
17:29I am saying that generally,
17:30strategy is based on what are the options.
17:32You have made a committee for negotiations.
17:34You yourself believe that they don't want to talk to you.
17:37But you want to find a way again
17:39or are looking for a way in which no one is standing ahead.
17:42Will this go ahead?
17:45Look, we have made a balanced plan.
17:49We will do it.
17:51We are strengthening our organization.
17:54We are focusing on Punjab.
17:56We are also mobilizing our international chapters.
17:59And all our activities will be included in it.
18:03So, there can be different options for negotiation.
18:07There can be deadlines.
18:09There can be a long mark.
18:13There can be protests at the district level.
18:20There can be strikes.
18:23So, we are discussing different options.
18:26This is a struggle.
18:28What can the political party do?
18:30We are not a militant.
18:31We are a peaceful struggle.
18:33Sir, in the long term,
18:34whatever plan you have made,
18:36you know that we will not benefit from it immediately.
18:39Listening to you,
18:40I feel that we can hold protests and long marches.
18:43You have also taken a loan.
18:44If Ali Ameen comes from Peshawar to Islamabad,
18:46it is a long march.
18:47He wants to sit.
18:48We don't let him sit.
18:49Otherwise, we would have held a protest in Islamabad.
18:51So, you have made all these efforts.
18:53You are saying that we are mentally ready.
18:56Whatever it is, it is long term.
18:58We will need a lot of time for it.
19:00It will take time.
19:01Whatever results you want,
19:03removing Imran Khan,
19:04ending elections,
19:07rolling back the 26th amendment,
19:09do you feel that it will take a lot of time
19:12and it may not be successful?
19:14For you.
19:15No.
19:16I just want to say that
19:18there is a long term policy and a short term policy.
19:20We are working on the short term as well as the long term.
19:22I just want to tell you that
19:24within a week,
19:27our entire policy will be clear.
19:29What we have to do in the long term and what we have to do in the short term.
19:32We are ready for this.
19:33We will not back down.
19:35We will not back down on anyone's fear.
19:37This is not our country.
19:39We will continue our legal war.
19:42Sir, this is fine.
19:44This is your statement of intent.
19:48What is your intention?
19:49The intention is that we will fight.
19:51But one thing is that
19:52how do we want to achieve the desired result?
19:55After listening to your conversation,
19:59I feel that there is a strategy on hope
20:01that maybe this will happen, maybe that will happen.
20:03There is no strategy as such.
20:05Generally, Mr. Imran Khan used to say that
20:08I will do it quickly.
20:09I will lock down.
20:11He used to give long term strategies.
20:13So, I don't think you have a strategy that way.
20:16Am I right?
20:17Am I right?
20:18I told you that we have a meeting at 10 o'clock.
20:21We will discuss this.
20:25And if you do the program after two days,
20:27we will tell you what our strategy is.
20:30Okay.
20:31Tell me, there is talk of a national government.
20:34Where is this coming from, sir?
20:37Mr. Khan has not come forward.
20:39There is talk of this.
20:41I have heard that Bilal Bhutto has been mobilized.
20:45I don't know what is happening.
20:46They are trying to make him the Prime Minister.
20:48Of course, they are also trying.
20:51There is a lot of fight going on inside.
20:56I have also heard about the establishment
20:59and their relations with each other.
21:02I can't say anything about that.
21:04But Allah knows best.
21:07Allah has the greatest power.
21:09They fight and believe in fighting.
21:13And I hope from Allah that
21:15Inshallah, we will win this war.
21:18Inshallah.
21:19At the end, tell me,
21:20if there is a message from the government
21:22that we will not only talk about these two points.
21:24We will also talk about other things.
21:26You are sitting at the table with an open agenda.
21:30This is our team.
21:31Four or five people from the Muslim League are coming.
21:33Will it be acceptable for you?
21:35Will these negotiations be possible?
21:37Will you do it?
21:39Yes, absolutely.
21:41They can give their agenda.
21:43We will see if that agenda is acceptable or not.
21:45We have given our agenda.
21:47They can give their agenda.
21:49Then we will see.
21:51So, they can give their agenda.
21:52But if they say that it is an open agenda.
21:54You have come with us.
21:55You negotiate with the government and the opposition.
21:57You have given two points.
21:59How to bring stability.
22:01How to move forward.
22:03If you want to talk about this.
22:05What will you say?
22:07I can't say anything alone.
22:09I say this.
22:11We have given our agenda.
22:12They can give their agenda.
22:13We will discuss.
22:15We are open to it.
22:17Okay, the agenda is open to it.
22:18Absolutely.
22:19Thank you very much.
22:20Asad Qaiser is present here.
22:21Former Speaker of the
22:23Justice Committee.
22:25The committee is for negotiations.
22:27Let's take a break.
22:29Breakout is with you.
22:31We believe tackling corruption is fighting only the symptoms.
22:35Symptoms of a wide-ranged disease.
22:37And this disease stems from the societal degeneration that we are facing.
22:41So, we have to work to create an environment.
22:44In which the society as a whole reflects abhorrence to the moral decay.
22:48This was Chairman Naib.
22:50We were talking about moral decay.
22:54Which has come down morally in our society.
22:58Where corruption is becoming normal.
23:04In earlier times, it was not easy to enter the homes of corrupt people.
23:09Now people easily engage with those people.
23:12About whom everyone knows that they have money for theft.
23:16But this is what he was calling moral decay.
23:20He also said that Naib has achieved great success in the past few years.
23:26The real issue is that what is the definition of Naib's success?
23:31What is the meaning of the success you have achieved?
23:35Are the cases against Naib's political opponents, arrests,
23:41cases against Naib's political opponents,
23:45this is called success?
23:47The problem is that in our country, the first goal is something else,
23:51and then it changes.
23:53The goals change.
23:55The first cases of which end in a great way.
23:59New cases are made.
24:01Naib was doing this work very well in the past.
24:04Now this work is going on vigorously.
24:07In our country, Naib has to make a decision on the basis of
24:11what is the political purpose of any action.
24:14What is the benefit of it?
24:16Is it beneficial?
24:17It is unfortunate in our country that
24:19instead of doing one's own work, institutions do more politics.
24:23How and when to make a case on whom,
24:26when and who to use for engineering.
24:29In these cases, politics is involved more than merit.
24:33This is what Naib's papers call success.
24:38Chairman Naib also said that people are leaving the country.
24:43Let's first listen to what he said.
24:46Let's see if the focus of those who leave the country is right or not.
25:03Draining our resources is bleeding our economy.
25:05Last year, 1.2 million Pakistanis left abroad for green passes.
25:09But our concern is that we need to know whether the money that they have taken along,
25:12was it from the prescribed banking channel or was it through some dubious means?
25:16Now this is our concern.
25:18Wow!
25:20The country in which brain drain is taking place,
25:23the country in which citizens are leaving this country,
25:27who are educated people,
25:29basically most of them are educated people who can leave the country.
25:34Chairman Naib's biggest concern is how he is taking the money abroad.
25:39However, the concern of the whole of Pakistan should be that
25:42why is he leaving Pakistan?
25:44Because when the educated people of your country,
25:49who have to run this country,
25:52when they leave this country and go to some other country,
25:56then they will have to bear the loss of this country for the coming years.
26:04But our focus is how he has taken the money abroad.
26:07He has gone abroad to earn money.
26:09There are some people who have taken the money abroad.
26:11These days, the laws abroad are very strict.
26:14You cannot take money to the bank accounts so easily.
26:17But most of the educated people have gone in search of a job.
26:23Why are they leaving?
26:25If you look at the situation of this country,
26:27then you will understand the reason for brain drain.
26:29Why would today's youth want to live in this country?
26:32There is a fear atmosphere in this country.
26:34If you are a politician, then the threat is the same.
26:37Even if you want to protest, you may not be able to do it.
26:41God knows what will happen.
26:43When will the police raid?
26:45When those who protect become the enemy,
26:49or you start getting scared of them,
26:52then it becomes difficult to live in such a society.
26:55There is a depression in the political atmosphere of this country.
26:58A political struggle for survival is going on.
27:01The casualty of this struggle is everyone else.
27:07In the struggle for survival,
27:09the biggest casualty in the struggle for victory is the country.
27:15The world does not believe in the freedom of expression.
27:19There are millions of marches in the world capitals.
27:21People become part of them according to their political affiliation.
27:25But when the political opinion of people is choked,
27:29then whoever can go, will go.
27:33If there is no opportunity in this country,
27:36if the problems in this country,
27:38there is no internet in this country,
27:40we have closed the internet.
27:42I was looking at the world economies.
27:44There are hundreds of billions of dollars of exports,
27:46internet and IT based.
27:48And the single digit export of our country is for this.
27:52Because here we do not know when the internet will work,
27:54when it will not work.
27:56So what will the young man who is IT based do?
27:59If your country's system and economy is not flourishing,
28:04then what will he do?
28:05He will leave the country.
28:07When the young man of this country looks at the rules of this country,
28:11that there are rules in this country to the extent of slogans,
28:13there is no compliance with the law,
28:15why would anyone want to live in this country?
28:17People express their opinion by voting in the elections.
28:20In our country, it has become a taunt that
28:22there is no free and fair election in this country.
28:24When this happens, why would anyone want to live in this country?
28:27Elections are the foundation of democracy.
28:29People are given the opportunity to elect their representatives.
28:32When there is a confusion in this practice,
28:34then which practice will remain clean?
28:36When the courts, when such governments will be formed,
28:39then the courts will also be poisoned.
28:41The system will be legislated to control it and to enforce it.
28:45People are not poisoned in a good system.
28:48They are empowered.
28:50They are made powerful.
28:51Rights are given and they are protected.
28:54Progressive societies are successful because of this.
28:57And we are unsuccessful because of this.
28:59If today's young man understands that
29:01he is not a part of the decision-making of this country,
29:03then this country is absolutely right.
29:07Because this country is made for nobility.
29:09And who is nobility?
29:11Those people who fight and win elections in this country.
29:14They are the elite of this country.
29:17That is the reality of this country.
29:19When the relationship of the state with the people becomes like this,
29:22like that of the king and the people,
29:24then people want to find their future somewhere else.
29:27We will have to stop and think about what we are doing with this country.
29:31Is this country going to run like this?
29:33Was it made to run like this?
29:35If this country has to run properly,
29:38I think a new Imrani agreement is needed.
29:41It is necessary to reset the country and its system.
29:45Countries run with power, but do not progress.
29:48All of us have to play our part in this.
29:51A transparent practice and a law according to which the country should run.
29:57Not on desires.
29:59Enough is enough.
30:00Now I think everyone is convinced that this country cannot run like this.
30:03The biggest question at the moment is
30:05what is our intention to change it?
30:08Are we ready to sacrifice our interests for the country?
30:13If the answer is strong, then it can be slightly increased.
30:17To run the system, you need credibility,
30:20you need legitimacy, you need capability,
30:23which will create the atmosphere of our country,
30:27with which this country can be run in a better way.
30:30Anyway, we have a few senses.
30:33We have two senses.
30:35This country should run according to this law.
30:39Let's talk about politics.
30:41Chairman Naib gave a speech today.
30:44I thought I would say a few things about his speech
30:47to tell you what the reason for the problem is.
30:50Let's talk about another issue,
30:52which seems to be heating up.
30:55The registration bill of Madaris.
30:57Aslam Ghori is with us.
30:59This is the translation of Maulana Fazlur Rahman.
31:01Aslam Ghori, welcome.
31:03Aslam Ghori, thank you very much.
31:05Sir, thank you very much for joining the program.
31:07What is the problem?
31:09Did you expect that the law passed by the Senate and the National Assembly
31:13will get stuck like this?
31:15Will the President send it back?
31:17Look, passing this bill is not a private bill.
31:21This is the bill of the Government of Pakistan.
31:23The Ministry of Justice made it.
31:25The Ministry of Justice's legal experts organized it.
31:31And then we discussed this bill with Mr. Blawal Putto in Karachi.
31:37His legal experts approved it.
31:40After that, the same thing was approved in Jati Umrah.
31:43The President was also present there.
31:45And then everyone voted for it.
31:47Including all the members of the government.
31:50Sir, but now the government has refused.
31:52Today they have gathered scholars in Islamabad.
31:56In short, you said that you are not the representative of the scholars anymore.
32:02So, now what do you think?
32:04Has the government given you a clear answer?
32:08Look, whatever the government is doing,
32:10it is actually doing it out of its great commitment.
32:14Look, there is a commitment in politics.
32:17It is getting rid of it.
32:19It is confusing the matter.
32:21We respect the scholars.
32:23But all these great scholars who were brought here,
32:26they were from the government.
32:28Some were from the advisory council.
32:30Some were from some other organization.
32:33There were people from various organizations.
32:35And in this way, many people were offered that
32:37they will come and give you rent.
32:39You will stay in a good hotel.
32:40Some people contacted me.
32:42So, this is how people were brought here.
32:44This whole game was played.
32:46In fact, it is a big conspiracy to bring scholars together.
32:49The loyalty that we are talking about,
32:51the Itahaat-e-Tanzeemat-e-Madaras,
32:53headed by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani,
32:55Shakti Jannal, Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman,
32:58in that Itahaat,
33:00the Ulema-e-Tioban,
33:03the Ulema-e-Barelvi,
33:05the Ulema-e-Ahl-e-Hadith,
33:07and the Ulema-e-Shia,
33:09all the loyalties in this country,
33:12are all included in it.
33:14Sir, but the problem is that,
33:16let's say you have a majority,
33:18you have a government,
33:20and the government has to decide.
33:22If they are scolded on this,
33:24that this is how it is going to be,
33:26then what will they do?
33:28Sir, then the same right was given to me.
33:30We had to announce it last night.
33:32The caravans of our country are getting ready,
33:34people are getting ready to come to Islamabad.
33:36Yesterday, a friend told me that
33:38it is cold in Islamabad.
33:40I said, Inshallah, people will come from all the cold areas.
33:42Don't worry.
33:44This cold is not more than the cold in Quetta.
33:46People are ready to come to Islamabad.
33:48People from all the cold areas,
33:50even from the warm areas.
33:52And we only stopped the night
33:54because Mufti Taqi Usmani's
33:56elder cousin passed away yesterday.
33:58Probably because of this,
34:00he had a funeral today.
34:02So he told me to wait for 3-4 days.
34:04I will take the trust of the other people
34:06in the school organizations
34:08so that tomorrow no one says
34:10that we were not asked.
34:12So that's why we stopped.
34:14We will start in a few days
34:16with the trust of the school organizations.
34:18And after that,
34:20Inshallah, we will announce our action.
34:22Sir, will you announce your action
34:24or will you go back to the long march
34:26and the protest that Maulana had mentioned?
34:28What do you think?
34:30Look, the constitution gave me the right
34:32to do the long march.
34:34Sir, you saw the right a few days ago.
34:36This right is selective.
34:38Not for everyone.
34:40No, Inshallah, it won't be like that.
34:42We cooperated with the government
34:44on every level.
34:46As they say,
34:48the agreement of 2019.
34:50If the agreement of 2019 was made,
34:52why didn't you implement it?
34:54Why didn't you give it a legal status?
34:56Why did you keep it in your file?
34:58On your request,
35:00we have made it compulsory
35:02to teach matriculation in all our schools.
35:04We have made it compulsory
35:06to teach English
35:08to students of Pakistan.
35:10We have made it compulsory.
35:12When we are talking about you,
35:14you haven't...
35:16But, FADFO,
35:18you must be right.
35:20Your case must have been settled with them.
35:22They say, no.
35:24This is not enough.
35:26Look, we have already done
35:28what they are saying.
35:30Secondly, they say,
35:32who understands matriculation better than you?
35:34You are going to lease all the schools
35:36in Punjab.
35:38You are standing on the road.
35:40But, Gauri,
35:42tell me,
35:44if they don't agree,
35:46will there be a protest in Islamabad?
35:48Inshallah.
35:50There will be a protest.
35:52There will be such a protest
35:54that the government will remember.
35:56Inshallah.
35:58We will keep an eye on this.
36:00Thank you very much, Gauri.
36:02We will talk to you later.
36:04Take a break.
36:08Welcome back, viewers.
36:10All the parties of the opposition
36:12are standing face to face
36:14with the government.
36:16The path is still the same.
36:18Discussions.
36:20Negotiations.
36:22If you want to solve this issue,
36:24then do it through discussions.
36:26The democratic way
36:28is to find a solution to the problem.
36:30And if the problems are solved,
36:32then there will be political stability
36:34and the country will move forward
36:36Jai Hind. Allah Hafiz.