We spoke with Carlos L. Garrido, Director of the Midwestern Institute, who comments on his vision of the U.S. political landscape, following the victory of Republican candidate Donald Trump and the designation of Marco Rubio as Secretary of State. teleSUR
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00:00And precisely just a few months away from the swearing-in of President-elect Donald
00:04Trump in the United States, we invite to our studio Professor Carlos Garrido, Director
00:09of the U.S. Midwestern Marx Institute and Secretary of Education of the Communist Party
00:14USA.
00:15Professor, Trump is already naming the members of his cabinet, and one of those names is
00:21Marco Rubio, who is known for professing a profound hatred towards Latin American progressive
00:26nations.
00:27What can the region expect for the upcoming years with these names involved in the U.S.
00:32decision-making?
00:33So, what we've seen in action is that who Trump really represents is the interests of
00:40the elite, and as far as Latin America, that pick with Marco Rubio shows that he's only
00:45going to continue the hybrid warfare, the sanctions, the blockade, the unilateral coercive
00:50measures against countries that decide to stand up for themselves, that decide to postulate
00:55their own sovereignty and decide to have a revolutionary socialist route for themselves
01:01and their people, countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, etc.
01:04So what we'll see from Trump is more hybrid warfare.
01:08While he gives symbolic gestures to his base, such as giving someone like Thomas Massey,
01:14the most critical individual in Congress right now of AIPAC, the Zionist lobby, is he offering
01:21him a position with regards to foreign policy, which is why his base likes him?
01:25No, he offered him Secretary of Agriculture, something that's completely irrelevant for
01:30the reasons why his MAGA base likes Massey, and it also opens up a space, of course, for
01:36the Zionist lobby to put someone in Kentucky that is not as critical of the Zionist entity
01:41as Thomas Massey is.
01:42The same with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., someone who's very popular with the MAGA base.
01:48What position is he going to have?
01:49Is he Secretary of State, a position which the base would be interested in because RFK
01:54is someone who has spoken against the proxy war against Russia, who has said that he's
01:59against sanctions, he's against the blockade against Cuba, as his uncle at one point was
02:05and was murdered by the institutions of the deep state for being so.
02:09And he's someone who's free speech, he wants to defend civil rights that are currently
02:13being attacked by both parties in the U.S.
02:16What position is RFK getting?
02:18Is he getting a position that is connected to the reasons why the MAGA base likes him?
02:23Of course not.
02:24The position he's getting has to do with health, which, okay, is something the American people
02:28care about.
02:29We know we're all getting poisoned and sick with this for-profit food system, but I'm
02:34sorry, but the question of war and sanctions and genocide is much greater.
02:39So what we'll see from Trump is a continuation of this war hawk policy against the whole
02:43world, this imperialist policy, while trying to posture to his popular base the fact that
02:49some form of symbolic victories for the reasons why they elected him, which is because he
02:53presents himself as anti-establishment.
02:56And I don't think the American people are going to fall for it.
02:58They're way too smart.
02:59The thing that distinguishes the MAGA base from the people that vote for the Democrats
03:03is that the base of the Democrats are never critical of the Democrats.
03:07You can look at the most ardent supporters of the Democrats or the most mild ones, none
03:12of them ever want to really genuinely carry out in a meaningful way critiques of the Democratic
03:17Party.
03:18That's not the case with the MAGA base.
03:19The MAGA base has criticized Trump multiple times in the past and is currently criticizing
03:24him for the appointment of neoconservatives within his government.
03:26They're criticizing him for his positions on this genocide, that according to the Lancet
03:31report, the genocide in Palestine has taken more than 200,000 lives of innocent people,
03:37most of them kids.
03:38So I think this is going to bring about a definitive break between the popular MAGA
03:43base and Trump's figure as the sort of representative of that base, and that base is going to be
03:49up for grabs, and hopefully it's up for grabs by more progressive forces in the U.S. that
03:55are developing already.
03:57Professor, many believe Republicans and Democrats defer over the most pressing priorities for
04:03the nation's immigration system, with Democrats being showed as the ones who apply more humane
04:07and softer measures.
04:09However, data reveals that there is no big difference in terms of immigration policies
04:13and deportation numbers.
04:15What is your opinion on this?
04:20The reality is this, and it might be uncomfortable for some people to accept, but Obama deported
04:27more people than Trump, and at the current rate, it's true of the Biden regime as well.
04:34So why is it such a central part of the Republican and Trump's campaign to be against immigration,
04:41which is something that they try to spin with a popular appeal?
04:44They try to tell the working class base, hey, guys, I know your lives are horrendous.
04:51You know whose fault is it?
04:52It's not the fault of the elite.
04:54It's not the fault of the ruling class of this country that has miserated you, that
04:58has indebted you, and that has kept you in the most profound forms of social alienation
05:04that leads you to do shootings and to do all these horrendous things that we Americans
05:08have to live through.
05:10No, it's not the problem of the system or the ruling class.
05:13It's the immigrants' problems.
05:15Those people that are coming from countries that we've destroyed with our hybrid warfare
05:18and with our imperialist policies, they're the ones that are to blame.
05:21So what does that do?
05:23It divides people who have fundamentally the same interests, who are antagonized against
05:28the same group of people, which is the American elite.
05:32Thank you very much, Professor.
05:33We were speaking to Professor Carlos Garrido, Director of the US Midwestern Marx Institute
05:39and Secretary of Education of the Communist Party USA, just a few months away from the
05:44soaring of President-elect Donald Trump.
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