Join Michael Cooper and Nick Gelso in this exciting episode of "Showtime with Coop" as he reflects on his emotional Hall of Fame enshrinement and the unforgettable weekend spent with former Lakers teammates. Dive into the current NBA landscape as Cooper discusses the Lakers' promising start to the season, emphasizing the importance of health and the standout performances from LeBron James and Anthony Davis. The conversation also has a fun "start, bench, cut" segment featuring basketball legends!
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2:57 - Lakers' strong bond
6:11 - Doug Collins' speech
9:14 - Lakers game analysis
12:01 - Prize picks promotion
14:30 - Lakers' hot start
16:49 - Bronny's development
19:40 - Media's crossing the line
25:49 - Load management discussion
28:27 - NBA season excitement
33:01 - Celtics' championship chip
35:36 - Garden standing ovation
39:17 - Start Bench Cut
52:30 - Celtic mystique explained
54:19 - Jaylen Brown's shots
56:02 - Starting Moses Malone
58:13 - Best shooter ever
1:01:02 - Classic Pistol Pete story
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2:57 - Lakers' strong bond
6:11 - Doug Collins' speech
9:14 - Lakers game analysis
12:01 - Prize picks promotion
14:30 - Lakers' hot start
16:49 - Bronny's development
19:40 - Media's crossing the line
25:49 - Load management discussion
28:27 - NBA season excitement
33:01 - Celtics' championship chip
35:36 - Garden standing ovation
39:17 - Start Bench Cut
52:30 - Celtic mystique explained
54:19 - Jaylen Brown's shots
56:02 - Starting Moses Malone
58:13 - Best shooter ever
1:01:02 - Classic Pistol Pete story
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00:00:00Showtime with Coop is brought to you by Price Picks and the Game Time app.
00:00:07Welcome to Showtime with Coop, insightful BS with his legendary Lakers teammates and
00:00:14the odd guest or personality, which is usually me.
00:00:18But on the other side of the room is Michael Cooper, the Hall of Famer.
00:00:21Coop, let me take the hosting reins today.
00:00:24I got a full show scheduled for you because you've been just too busy.
00:00:28I thought I'd see you on Jimmy Kimmel with all the rounds you've been making.
00:00:32I thought you'd be on Kimmel, you know, Colbert.
00:00:36I was waiting for it, Coop.
00:00:38Talk about the last two weeks after the induction and how your life maybe has changed a little
00:00:44bit.
00:00:45People looking at you differently a little?
00:00:48Nick, you know, a very chaotic and hectic weekend.
00:00:55I'm kind of glad it's over with, but I'm glad that I went through it.
00:01:00Family, friends, Laker family.
00:01:03It was absolutely touching, stunning and heartfelt.
00:01:12And to be finally inducted, enshrined, not inducted, but enshrined in the Hall of Fame,
00:01:19there's no feeling like it.
00:01:21People, you know, they call you Hall of Famer and it kind of a little bit embarrasses me
00:01:26a little bit.
00:01:27But, you know, all the work that you put in getting to this point, I appreciate it.
00:01:35But you know me, I'm just Coop, Michael Cooper.
00:01:38But I mean, it is a great feeling to be in.
00:01:40Now the Lakers have a five, that 80 period have five Hall of Famers.
00:01:47So I feel good in that company.
00:01:50You know, Nick, one thing that really happened that shocked not only myself, but well, it
00:01:56didn't shock me, but it was a pleasant surprise, but shocked a lot of other people, especially
00:02:00the Hall of Fame people.
00:02:02Of all the inductees, the enshrinees there, I had the most former players that came for
00:02:10my event.
00:02:11Easy Coop, the whole Lakers team was there.
00:02:15I mean, it was amazing to be, I was there to be a fan and sit and see, just be an observer
00:02:21sitting and seeing you guys BS and busting balls and just seeing, I mean, to sit a row
00:02:27behind Magic Johnson was pretty sick.
00:02:30You know what I'm saying?
00:02:31And I appreciate you being there.
00:02:33I appreciate you having me there.
00:02:36It was a great experience.
00:02:38And seeing all the Lakers together was, it was giving me chills.
00:02:44And there's no question, you definitely had the most people show up for you.
00:02:48And that there, to me, that meant a lot.
00:02:51And that goes to show you how tight our unit was in the 80s, that Showtime team, for those
00:02:57players to still be connected.
00:02:59And you know what, Nick?
00:03:00We got there and it was like old times, like we were doing something.
00:03:03And the lingo was flying, the talk was flying, the party afterwards was really good.
00:03:09People came.
00:03:10And of course, had the lead because, I mean, the World Series was going on and they went
00:03:14on to beat the Yankees and the Dodgers right now.
00:03:18You know, LA is a city of champions.
00:03:20Oh, come on now.
00:03:21It don't matter what sports you want to come across, Lakers, Dodgers, Kings, Sparks, we're
00:03:28going to win championships.
00:03:29And that's what we're about.
00:03:30So the Hall of Fame was just one of those, and you put the dot on the I, that was the
00:03:37whole thing.
00:03:38And you know what?
00:03:39I loved it.
00:03:40It's just amazing.
00:03:41And yeah, you know, that's my little Hall of Fame picture right there.
00:03:44Yeah, you're standing behind yourself there.
00:03:46Yeah, standing behind yourself.
00:03:47Passing 24.
00:03:48And you know what's so really special about that is that Kobe wore 24.
00:03:53Kobe wore number 8.
00:03:5524, me working Kobe out as a young player and going in at 24 means a lot because that
00:04:03told me that he was there too.
00:04:05So I had a lot of Laker fans.
00:04:07The one sad part about it is Jerry West.
00:04:10I really, really wish he could have been there.
00:04:12But dude, his son gave such a great speech.
00:04:15Oh, Johnny was fantastic, man.
00:04:19He was fantastic.
00:04:21Doug Collins?
00:04:22Listen, I love DC.
00:04:27I love DC.
00:04:28So do I, but wait a minute.
00:04:30I went, and I love Doug Collins.
00:04:32I didn't want to skip his speech, but I turned to Guy, our sales manager, and I said,
00:04:38I know Doug Collins.
00:04:39He's going to go on forever.
00:04:40I'm going to run to the bathroom, and I'll come back.
00:04:44So I ran to the bathroom.
00:04:45I come out into the lobby area.
00:04:47I hear him still going.
00:04:48So I'm like, I go outside to have a smoke.
00:04:52I'm like, I'll just have a smoke, right?
00:04:54I have a smoke.
00:04:55Who comes out?
00:04:56Vlade Divac.
00:04:57That's a cigarette, not weed.
00:04:58Not weed, cigarette.
00:05:00So Vlade and I are bullshitting outside.
00:05:02We both walk back in.
00:05:03He's still going.
00:05:05It had to be an hour, Koop.
00:05:07It had to be a fucking hour.
00:05:09Were you guys like kicking each other?
00:05:10It's typical Doug, right?
00:05:11Doug, you know, Doug's a storyteller, and that's the one thing about it.
00:05:17You know, he brought a lot of laughs to the whole situation.
00:05:20I love the fact where he...
00:05:22I don't say this in an ugly way, but he stuck his nose up at the Hall of Fame, you know?
00:05:29Dude!
00:05:30I only get to speak six minutes?
00:05:31No, I'm going to show you.
00:05:32I'm going to speak as long as I want.
00:05:33Did you see the teleprompter?
00:05:35Did you see the teleprompter?
00:05:36The teleprompter kept going, stop now.
00:05:39Seriously.
00:05:40And he kept going.
00:05:41But Doug, you know, this class of 24 is really special.
00:05:47Really special.
00:05:48Special people going in.
00:05:49Doug Collins, Jerry West, just to say a few names, and then on the player's side, Simone
00:05:54Augustus had a very eloquent speech.
00:05:56Eloquent.
00:05:57And really nice.
00:05:58And Chauncey Billups, man.
00:05:59Chauncey.
00:06:00You know, yeah, we all had our script on the teleprompter, but Chauncey, I don't think...
00:06:06I think he was truly...
00:06:07And we all were, speaking from his heart, but I very rarely saw Chauncey glance up there.
00:06:11So it was a great, great experience.
00:06:15One that I'll always remember.
00:06:17Got pictures, videos from it.
00:06:20But like I said, it was so chaotic and hectic.
00:06:22They had us doing something all the time, and then you're there trying to choreograph
00:06:27your group of people that are there.
00:06:29Lakers were fantastic.
00:06:30Jeannie Buss and Linda Rambis, Octavio, just to name a few.
00:06:36I mean, they had it laid out for me, and it was really, really special.
00:06:39How come Kurt didn't sit down with you guys?
00:06:42Is there a falling out with somebody, with Kurt Rambs?
00:06:44No.
00:06:45Kurt was there with us.
00:06:46Was he sitting down?
00:06:47I thought he was sitting behind me.
00:06:48No.
00:06:49Oh, I don't know.
00:06:50I don't know how they had the seating.
00:06:52That was the hall that did the seating like that, so I don't know.
00:06:54Well, they sat me perfect.
00:06:55I mean, I was right in front of Magic, alongside of Dick Vevetta, and come on, look what...
00:07:01I love Dick Vevetta.
00:07:02I love Dick Vevetta, dude.
00:07:05Fucking God told him.
00:07:06I said, Dick, you know what?
00:07:07You're a wonderful person, but you're an asshole as a referee.
00:07:09Yes.
00:07:10And he said, Coop, you know what?
00:07:12I'm glad you said that, because that means I was doing my job.
00:07:17The dude talked nonstop, I mean, telling stories.
00:07:20You should get him on here.
00:07:21He was such a great storyteller, and he's such a villain.
00:07:23I will.
00:07:24I'm going to get it, because I know somebody's got his number.
00:07:25Get him on you.
00:07:26That's what we're going to do.
00:07:27We'll have an official...
00:07:28He would be thrilled.
00:07:29Officials, official inside with Coop.
00:07:33He would be amazing.
00:07:34I mean, like, he was telling stories that I had forgotten, like crazy stuff about the
00:07:39eight, like the Dr. Jay Bird fight when Red came down from the stands, all that.
00:07:44I think he was talking about you and the Houston fight.
00:07:47That was a wing-dinger nod there, Coop.
00:07:50The Houston fight, you got in it hard against Houston.
00:07:53That was a good fight.
00:07:54How about Joe Mizzoula saying he wants fighting to come back to the NBA?
00:08:02He wants what?
00:08:03He wants fighting to come back to the NBA.
00:08:06Have you watched the NBA lately?
00:08:09That may happen.
00:08:10I love it.
00:08:11They are letting them play, and you know what?
00:08:15The amazing part about it is that usually, and again, there's no disparity or anything
00:08:22like that.
00:08:23The men referees as opposed to the women, but the women referees are letting them go
00:08:27too.
00:08:28Usually, you would look at them calling the whistle a little bit more, but I guess they've
00:08:31all got together as an officiating group.
00:08:34They said, hey, this is how it's going to be done.
00:08:37Let players make plays, and they've done a wonderful job.
00:08:41Coop, I love it.
00:08:42It's not quite what it was, but it's definitely reminiscent of your era.
00:08:46Yeah.
00:08:47You can touch people now.
00:08:48You can put hands on people like you couldn't before.
00:08:50It's funny to watch the players react as they're just getting used to it, though, because there's
00:08:54a lot of contactless flopping, you know what I mean?
00:09:00I think there's some inconsistency in what plays they're letting go physical and whatnot,
00:09:05but either way, anything more physical is better for the game.
00:09:09You know what?
00:09:10The amazing part is, watch this, Nick, the next time you watch it.
00:09:13I haven't watched the Celtic game yet, but I've watched the Lakers, and I've watched
00:09:20the Stars.
00:09:21Usually, when they go to the hoop and they get that call, they're not getting those calls.
00:09:25Yeah, they're not getting them.
00:09:26They're jumping up and down.
00:09:27LeBron is like, you know.
00:09:29LeBron is who started the whining, because he's the epic whiner, flopper of all time,
00:09:38and now everybody does it.
00:09:40Tatum is brutal, although he's been better this year, even with the added contact, and
00:09:45you do see it around the rim, because there's no more anticipation of whistles, which used
00:09:50to be so frustrating.
00:09:52Speaking of the current game, Coop, on my list, we're going to do a whole round of start
00:09:58bench cut, which is your proprietary game, Coop.
00:10:03That's like your favorite.
00:10:04And I have it kind of layered out into positions, so I think we'll have a good time with that.
00:10:09Before we go there, we'll talk a little bit about the Lakers' start so far this season,
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00:12:34You know, Nick, you mentioned the Lakers, so now I'm going to go ahead and jump into
00:12:38it.
00:12:39Well, we got to.
00:12:40It's a hot start.
00:12:41Four and two.
00:12:43Nothing.
00:12:45I think what the Lakers are doing, and I think J.J. Redick has got a great nine-man rotation
00:12:50it seems like he's going with, and the only key to this, the only key to the Lakers' success
00:12:57is health.
00:12:58Yeah.
00:12:59LeBron and A.D. are playing good, long and big solid minutes, but they're playing big,
00:13:04big time.
00:13:05I think the other night both of them had 30-plus, and they got probably about 25, 30 rebounds
00:13:09in between them.
00:13:11That's the only way that the Lakers can sustain, and we're hoping that, you know, the injury
00:13:16bug doesn't hit this team, because if they do, then they're going to be, to me, right
00:13:20now, they're the prize pick of the West right now.
00:13:23You're saying this with seriously no sentiment, no sentimentality.
00:13:28You honestly believe that?
00:13:30I do.
00:13:31Yeah, that's good.
00:13:32I mean, they're tough to beat.
00:13:33I think the people coming off the bench is good.
00:13:36That Dalton Connick, the rookie, is a pure, flat-out shooter.
00:13:39Gabe Vinson, as long as he stays healthy, is a solid backup point and another shooter.
00:13:43We had Gabe Vinson.
00:13:44He's very good.
00:13:45Max Chrissie, he's the only one I'm having concerns with, but again, his defense looks
00:13:49pretty good right now.
00:13:50He has youthfulness, and then he's allowing LeBron to get that extra rest, and then Jason
00:13:57Hayes is coming in, and when the Lakers go with that big lineup of Hayes, A.D., and LeBron,
00:14:03they're pretty tough to deal with, and again, you remember, when the Lakers won the championship
00:14:06in the bubble, that's who they had there, JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard, and A.D., and
00:14:12that's a big front line, big athletic front line, and I think they are able to recoup
00:14:16that again.
00:14:17Jackson Hayes just runs the floor, a lot of energy, block shots, defends, and you can
00:14:22throw him lobs, and as long as the Lakers, again, stay healthy, and that's going to be
00:14:27the key, I think they're the team to beat in the West right now.
00:14:30Well, let me tell you, I mean, A.D., I can't think of a year he started off hotter.
00:14:36I mean, he's just been really on fire on both ends of the court, and that, like you said-
00:14:42Well, the court has been passed on him, and he's officially accepting it, and he's playing.
00:14:45Has he accepted it yet?
00:14:46He seems to be, and it's working, I mean, LeBron is obviously still logging points,
00:14:53but he's had a couple under 20, and they've won, and that's shown, too, that they beat
00:14:59impressive teams.
00:15:00I mean, they beat Phoenix, they beat the Timberwolves, they beat Sacramento, I think, so they beat
00:15:06some tough teams.
00:15:07Well, you know what, they're catching these teams in disarray, and the Lakers are, I don't
00:15:12want to call them a hot mess, but the Lakers are kind of finding out themselves, but you
00:15:15know what, as they're finding out about themselves, they're beating these teams that are doing
00:15:20the same thing, so I'm loving the Lakers right now.
00:15:24I think there's a whole lot of season left for us to really find out who we are.
00:15:29They got really bounced bad the other night, but again, they responded coming back, beating
00:15:37Toronto.
00:15:38Yep.
00:15:39Cleveland Cavaliers beat them real good.
00:15:40The Cavs are really, really playing well, the Cavs.
00:15:44But right now, I'm liking the Lakers, I'm liking the Brownie situation.
00:15:49Are you?
00:15:50All right, talk about that.
00:15:51Talk about Brownie.
00:15:52I thought they were going to kind of abuse that, but they haven't, and the one good thing
00:15:56is when the Lakers got down, usually you throw in all your rookies, and I think they're bringing
00:16:01him along the right way, because you don't play him just because he's LeBron James' son.
00:16:05You play him for his contribution to the team, what he's going to bring.
00:16:09Right now, I think he's a little defensive liability, but I also like the fact that he's
00:16:14still kind of pacing himself.
00:16:17He's not trying to do too much, you don't see him out there just jacking up shots.
00:16:20He's taking good shots for the team, and I think that'll help his confidence in the long
00:16:25run, but it has to be pressure on him.
00:16:27I'm hearing a little bit that they may want to send him down to the G League, and if I
00:16:33were that, I would be real careful about it, because I need him to understand what the
00:16:38pro game is about.
00:16:39And again, you treat all rookies the same, he's no different.
00:16:42But I think for his case here, because LeBron is a heady player, good young player.
00:16:47Will he ever be at the status of his dad?
00:16:50Probably not, but he'll be a good pro in this league.
00:16:54It may take him being traded to another team to get the amount of minutes he's going to
00:16:57need to really develop.
00:16:59I don't think you get those same kind of...
00:17:02You'll get the minutes in the G League, but it's against mediocre players.
00:17:05He needs to play against elite players here in the NBA, and I think he's going to be good.
00:17:11It's just going to take time, and they're not throwing him in there just to throw him
00:17:14in.
00:17:15I think they're really doing a good job of when they play him, because the pressure is
00:17:18immense on him.
00:17:19But immense.
00:17:20That's on JJ so far.
00:17:22Yeah.
00:17:23And he's done a good job with that.
00:17:24So off the Lakers, let's go to the Celtics.
00:17:28Wait, before we go to the Celtics, are you hearing me okay?
00:17:32Yeah.
00:17:33Before we go to the Celtics, did you see what happened in Philadelphia last night?
00:17:36I know it's early in LA, I don't know if you got the news yet.
00:17:41Philly and who played?
00:17:42It was off the court.
00:17:43Oh no, I haven't heard it.
00:17:45Okay, so a Philadelphia Beat writer wrote a pretty inflammatory story about Embiid,
00:17:56and invoked Embiid's dead brother's name.
00:18:00Basically the gist of it was, he said, you know, Joel Embiid made a commitment to give
00:18:07it his all to the sport he loves when his brother passed away, and he's not yet fulfilled
00:18:14that due to injuries and constant off the court stuff.
00:18:18Well, Embiid took offense to this.
00:18:20He physically assaulted that journalist last night in the locker room.
00:18:26He went after him.
00:18:28It was in the paper on Thursday.
00:18:31Last night, Embiid didn't play, but he's in the locker room, and the reporter walks in,
00:18:35I can't remember his name and I know him.
00:18:37He walks in, and they get into it, Embiid confronts him, and it ends up with Embiid
00:18:42putting his hands up.
00:18:45I've heard that.
00:18:46Yeah, I have never heard that.
00:18:48Do you remember any time a player has assaulted a media member?
00:18:52I've seen situations where they come nose to nose, but never touch them.
00:18:56But you know what, talking about somebody's dead relative, or anybody that they care and
00:19:00love about, that's crossing the line a little bit, and I think the media gotta be careful
00:19:04about what they say.
00:19:06I mean, yeah, you try to have freedom of speech, and you can say certain things, but you don't
00:19:10do that.
00:19:11I disagree with that.
00:19:12And if it were me, I might have put hands on him myself, too, because, again, you don't
00:19:17know nothing about my brother.
00:19:19All you know about is what you read in the paper, so keep his name out your mouth.
00:19:23That's exactly what he said.
00:19:25That's exactly what he said.
00:19:26Keep my brother's name out of your mouth.
00:19:28Yeah.
00:19:29He put his hands on him.
00:19:30I don't know.
00:19:31I agree with you 100%.
00:19:33I mean, there's a journalistic integrity that was kind of crossed there.
00:19:37But Embiid can't, players cannot, this isn't political media, and it's not the WWE.
00:19:45Like players can't assault media members.
00:19:48I think the bigger assault would be if Embiid literally put him on mute all season and never
00:19:54answered another question for the rest of the year.
00:19:56Then he asked.
00:19:57I agree with that one.
00:19:58I'll go with that one.
00:19:59Yeah, because then he puts himself in a, he puts the journalist in the position with his
00:20:03outlet.
00:20:04Why aren't you getting answers?
00:20:05Why aren't you able to talk to Embiid?
00:20:07Exactly.
00:20:08I would have just put him on blackout.
00:20:09But who am I to say, Coop, I mean, I'm not in the situation in the heat of the moment
00:20:13and the reporter didn't say anything about my family.
00:20:15So I might have reacted the same way.
00:20:17You know what I'm saying?
00:20:18Exactly.
00:20:19That's what we're saying.
00:20:20No, I don't condone violence or anything like that.
00:20:22But I mean, that probably would have had my hair on the back of my neck riled up too.
00:20:26But I agree with you, Nick, that might've been the best route to take.
00:20:29But again, you know what, hearing that, and we don't, do we really know the depth of what
00:20:32he said in that article?
00:20:33Oh yeah, it's out.
00:20:35It's on the internet.
00:20:36I didn't hear this story.
00:20:37Yeah, it's on the internet.
00:20:38So I don't know how to react to it.
00:20:39But if he says something about his brother, that's all limits.
00:20:43It was more about Embiid years ago using his brother's passing as motivation and fuel to
00:20:52be the best he could possibly be.
00:20:54And the reporter was calling that out, saying it's not really worked.
00:20:59You need to show up to the arena in order to be the best player you could possibly be.
00:21:03What is going on down in Philadelphia?
00:21:06Do they create players that just get paid and don't play?
00:21:09I mean, between Simmons in the past, now Embiid, Paul George, like why even bring him on a
00:21:14team that's constantly injured?
00:21:17Like Philadelphia- Is he injured now?
00:21:19I saw he didn't play the other night.
00:21:20He's injured again.
00:21:21He didn't play last night.
00:21:22Or the night before.
00:21:23What's his injury?
00:21:24I mean, I know that these guys now- I can't keep track.
00:21:27I can't keep track.
00:21:28These guys now in the NBA, they feel, and I just get this from looking at them, and
00:21:34then you hear different points.
00:21:35Oh, he has a back issue or- You know what?
00:21:39These guys think that they play in the NBA, that they have to feel absolutely perfect.
00:21:43No pain.
00:21:44I can't have any pain anywhere in order for me to step on the court.
00:21:48How much- You know what?
00:21:49In the 80s, basketball especially, and I can understand that, football too, you're going
00:21:54to have some pain after 30, 40 games.
00:21:56You should.
00:21:57You should.
00:21:58You're practicing.
00:21:59You do a lot of time in practice.
00:22:00You work out a lot.
00:22:01You're shooting.
00:22:02You're really honing in on your craft.
00:22:04So there's going to be some pain.
00:22:06Nick, I played- We were playing the Boston Celtics in 1984, championship series, and
00:22:15we were at shoot-around, and the media was coming in.
00:22:18There was probably like 50 of them, and you remember-
00:22:20Were we in L.A. or in Boston?
00:22:23In L.A. or in Boston?
00:22:24This was in L.A.
00:22:25Okay.
00:22:26And the curtain, they used to pull this curtain back, and the media would come in there, and
00:22:30we'd be out on the court.
00:22:31Well, there was another exit that I could go out down there, down closer to where- It
00:22:36was almost at the other end of the court, and I could go in there and come from the
00:22:40backside and get to our locker room.
00:22:42And hide.
00:22:43Well, as soon as we broke, hey, and Riles goes, the media's coming in, and they pulled
00:22:48the curtain back.
00:22:49Well, me and James Worthy took off, and we were running.
00:22:53Now, I did not know in that other hallway that they pulled a scaffold out to let players
00:22:59from the- The visiting team used to go in that way, and they didn't want people throwing
00:23:03anything on them, so they pulled a scaffold.
00:23:04But this time, the scaffold was back, and the curtains were covering it a little bit.
00:23:09So all I saw was a hallway.
00:23:11Nick, I ran in there, man, and I ran in, and I ran right into that scaffold.
00:23:16Bam.
00:23:17Ooh.
00:23:18And this cut right here, you can probably see it right there.
00:23:20Yeah, you can see it.
00:23:21Yep, yep.
00:23:22So I ran into that, and I'm like, next thing I know, James Worthy's over me, and the trainer,
00:23:29Gary Meadey's coming down.
00:23:30You on the ground?
00:23:31You are right.
00:23:32I knocked myself out.
00:23:33Did it bleed?
00:23:34I got 21 stitches right here.
00:23:37In today's game, I would have been put in a concussion protocol.
00:23:40For sure, yeah, yeah.
00:23:41But I got up, and I'm like, damn, what'd I hit, Gary?
00:23:44He goes, Koop, you ran into the- It was kind of off-center.
00:23:47They take me to the locker room.
00:23:49Gary is picking, with tweezers, pieces of wood out of my scalp.
00:23:54They send me to the doctor in Centinella.
00:23:57I get stitched up.
00:24:00Come to the game that night, I fucking play.
00:24:03That would have never happened to me.
00:24:04I played a game.
00:24:05I had 18 points that game.
00:24:06No, I had 12 points that game.
00:24:07But that's how we were.
00:24:09You played the game of basketball, man, and you played.
00:24:12If you were achy a little bit, your back, you at least give it a try.
00:24:16These guys nowadays, man, I'm hurt, or I'm twisting my ankle, I can't go.
00:24:20Man, I played, yeah, you just play the game, man.
00:24:23Mikael played on broken ankles, you know?
00:24:25Isaiah Thomas played on a broken ankle.
00:24:27I mean, these guys just played.
00:24:28And gave me 27 and a quarter.
00:24:29You guys won him.
00:24:30Yeah, he killed you.
00:24:31But you guys wanted to play.
00:24:34You probably came back to the arena all stitched up and said, where's my uniform?
00:24:37Oh, yeah.
00:24:3821 stitches I got.
00:24:40I went home, because this was right after shootaround.
00:24:42I went home.
00:24:43Went to the doctor.
00:24:44Went home.
00:24:45Came back.
00:24:46And Gary goes, what's going on?
00:24:47I said, why are you even asking me that, dude?
00:24:48I'm playing the game.
00:24:49Give me my uniform.
00:24:50Was it the finals, or just a regular season?
00:24:52Huh?
00:24:53Was it a regular season, or the finals?
00:24:55No, this was in the championship series.
00:24:58Oh, you play.
00:24:59Yeah, my God, if you didn't play.
00:25:01But I mean, I've had injuries, you know, twisting my arm, had a bruised clavicle.
00:25:06I went up to block somebody's shot during the regular season, broke my hand.
00:25:10Broke your hand, I remember.
00:25:11And I knew it hurt.
00:25:12I played every game.
00:25:15Did that get caught on the rim?
00:25:16I kind of remember that, when you broke your hand.
00:25:18Well, I was going up to block somebody's shot.
00:25:20Yeah.
00:25:21Yeah.
00:25:22He hit the ball, my hand hit the rim.
00:25:23Rim, yeah.
00:25:24And I blocked the shot.
00:25:25And you play the game, man.
00:25:27But today's player is a different breed.
00:25:29Makes so much more money.
00:25:31And you know, you just play.
00:25:33And you know what?
00:25:34We don't really know what's really wrong with George Paul, or how serious the injury is.
00:25:40But you know what?
00:25:41Guys see their bodies as temple, and you have to understand, hey,
00:25:44if I can't go out there and give it my all, I'm not giving it at all.
00:25:47And so that's what it is.
00:25:48The NBA is at least doing something to curb the load management.
00:25:51And I think that's a good thing.
00:25:53Now, before we move on to the Celtics, I have to ask you one question.
00:25:56One more question about the Hall of Fame.
00:25:58Did you talk to Larry Bird?
00:26:00Yeah.
00:26:01I actually did.
00:26:02So you've got to tell the story.
00:26:03Tell the story.
00:26:04I saw him.
00:26:05Where did I see him?
00:26:07Saturday.
00:26:08We had breakfast.
00:26:09We went to the hotel and had this breakfast.
00:26:11And he was in there.
00:26:13I said, Larry, how you doing?
00:26:14Hey, Coop, how you doing?
00:26:15I said, how things been going, Larry?
00:26:17Fine.
00:26:18How things been going with you?
00:26:19Fine.
00:26:20And he gets up and walks out.
00:26:24But you know what?
00:26:25That's Larry.
00:26:26He did.
00:26:27I asked him to take a picture with my kids.
00:26:29Oh, that's great.
00:26:30Take a picture with my kids.
00:26:31So I think I got out of it a little bit.
00:26:33You didn't get a picture with him?
00:26:34No picture?
00:26:35You didn't get a picture?
00:26:36No, I didn't get a picture with him.
00:26:37That would have been great.
00:26:38I should have.
00:26:39You should have.
00:26:40But I did get his goat.
00:26:41Because I know in my speech, I said, you know what?
00:26:43I know.
00:26:44I also want to thank Boston Celtics and Larry Bird.
00:26:45And he chuckled at that.
00:26:46They put him on the Jumbotron.
00:26:47He chuckled and did one of these.
00:26:48He is cool.
00:26:49That was fun to me.
00:26:50For somebody who has been, you know, his whole career kind of been a hick and backward, boy,
00:26:51he's become cool in his older age.
00:26:52He's embraced getting older, I think.
00:26:53I think we all are.
00:26:54Yeah, you all are.
00:26:55We go through things, you know.
00:26:56And you got to have fun with it.
00:26:57Because, again, the player that you were makes the person that you are today.
00:26:58And you got to have fun with it.
00:26:59Because, again, the player that you were makes the person that you are today.
00:27:00And you got to have fun with it.
00:27:01And you got to have fun with it.
00:27:02But, just, Larry is a unique individual.
00:27:03Oh, for sure.
00:27:04I think we all saw the coming out party to him when he and Magic did that commercial
00:27:05for Congress.
00:27:06Yeah.
00:27:07When Magic's in a limousine and driving, you know.
00:27:08Yeah.
00:27:09Yeah.
00:27:10Yeah.
00:27:11Yeah.
00:27:12Yeah.
00:27:13Yeah.
00:27:14Yeah.
00:27:15Yeah.
00:27:16Yeah.
00:27:17Yeah.
00:27:18Yeah.
00:27:19Yeah.
00:27:20Yeah.
00:27:21Yeah.
00:27:22Yeah.
00:27:23Yeah.
00:27:24Yeah.
00:27:25Yeah.
00:27:26Yeah.
00:27:27Yeah.
00:27:28Yeah.
00:27:29Yeah.
00:27:30Yeah.
00:27:31Yeah.
00:27:32Yeah.
00:27:33And he had the limousine and drives out to this farm.
00:27:34Yeah.
00:27:35And Larry's out there.
00:27:36And, hey, who's this?
00:27:37And Magic rolls down and says, it's Magic.
00:27:38And they get there.
00:27:39It's this year's MVP.
00:27:40For their first MVP.
00:27:41Yeah.
00:27:42I think, didn't soften their game.
00:27:43But we have to be friends.
00:27:45And we have to respect and appreciate one another.
00:27:47And I think, at this time now in our life, when I see Dr. J, I see Isaiah, I have softened
00:27:52a little bit.
00:27:53You know?
00:27:54Yeah.
00:27:55Before, when we were playing, I probably would never have gone up to him.
00:27:57Larry was very nice enough to take pictures with my kids,
00:28:01and they were excited about that,
00:28:03and they would go,
00:28:03Dad, that's the one that said that you're the toughest one
00:28:06that's ever guarded him.
00:28:08And yeah.
00:28:08Damn right.
00:28:09Damn right he said that.
00:28:11And he doesn't compliment anyone.
00:28:13I know, and that's the one thing I love about it.
00:28:15Because like I said before, guarding him,
00:28:17I never tried to hurt Larry or play him physical.
00:28:20I mean, I tried to play him physical,
00:28:21but not over across the line on him.
00:28:23So it was always fun.
00:28:24Tis the most wonderful time of the year.
00:28:25Yes.
00:28:27The NBA season, folks.
00:28:29It is the best.
00:28:32Look, the NFL is great.
00:28:33I understand.
00:28:34But if you're looking into star power,
00:28:36celebrity, entertainment,
00:28:40it's the NBA.
00:28:41There's no doubt about it.
00:28:42And my Celtics, I'm looking for them to defend.
00:28:44We need a new dynasty in the NBA.
00:28:47We need one.
00:28:48Okay?
00:28:49And I think this Celtic group can do it.
00:28:51I know the Celtic group can do it.
00:28:53And you know who else,
00:28:54from what I understand as a Celtic fan,
00:28:55it's Hugh Jackman.
00:28:56Yes.
00:28:57Wolverine himself, the greatest showman,
00:28:59Hugh Jackman is a big Celtic fan.
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00:31:40But moving on to the Celtics.
00:31:41Talk to us about your Celtics, Nick.
00:31:44Well, dude, six and one.
00:31:46And I mean, they just finished a really good
00:31:50back-to-back away stand against the Hornets.
00:31:54They've been playing.
00:31:56They won both those games, right?
00:31:57Yeah, they won both those games.
00:31:59And the last game, last night's game,
00:32:02I was on the post-game show last night
00:32:03and it was great because they had a lead in the first half
00:32:07and lost it in the third
00:32:08and where you might have seen years ago
00:32:10them not get it back, they got it back.
00:32:12They're playing with swagger and confidence.
00:32:15And what I really love, Coop,
00:32:16is it's rare that you see a championship team
00:32:19come back the next season with a chip on their shoulder.
00:32:23This team definitely has one.
00:32:25Couple reasons.
00:32:27Hold on, let me ask you a question.
00:32:28Okay, sorry to cut you off.
00:32:29No, I'm good.
00:32:30Is the chip on the team's shoulder
00:32:32or is it on Jason Tatum's shoulder for not winning MVP?
00:32:36I think it's on Brown's shoulders
00:32:41for not making all defensive last year.
00:32:45And making the Olympics team.
00:32:46And making the Olympics team.
00:32:48It's on Tatum for being benched
00:32:51for no apparent reason during the Olympics.
00:32:54Dude, he is, first of all,
00:32:57the both of them have bulked up and they're stronger.
00:33:00But Tatum has just been phenomenal.
00:33:02Even when he's not shot well,
00:33:04he is assisted and rebounded and his defense is great.
00:33:07So yeah, it's rare you see a team come back
00:33:10and the whole team has a chip on their shoulder
00:33:12because everybody said they were a fake champion
00:33:16because of the injuries that their opponents faced
00:33:18in the lead up to winning.
00:33:20And all of ESPN picked the Mavs, which was asinine.
00:33:24I don't understand that.
00:33:26So I think all those things combined
00:33:28has a chip on their shoulder and they're playing with it.
00:33:31And the best part is like last night, no Jalen Brown.
00:33:34We haven't had KP yet.
00:33:36The Celtics have played really well with early injuries.
00:33:40And like, it's an amazing thing to be able to say,
00:33:44don't bring Porzingis back until January
00:33:47if you don't have to, because they're playing so well.
00:33:49And Horford is just, you know,
00:33:51last night he didn't score,
00:33:52but he had eight assists, seven rebounds,
00:33:55you know, drawing double teams, making passes.
00:33:57He's just, they're good, man.
00:33:59They're gonna repeat.
00:34:00Well, Horford's the X factor for me, for them,
00:34:03because he's able to play the many positions.
00:34:05He guards just about anybody.
00:34:07You can switch him on a big.
00:34:09Yeah, well, you guys got the tissue paper
00:34:12back there in Porzingis.
00:34:13He's-
00:34:14But who cares?
00:34:15Huh?
00:34:16But who cares?
00:34:16They could win without him.
00:34:17They've proven it.
00:34:18They've proven it.
00:34:19No, you don't need him at some point.
00:34:20But they won without him last year for the most part.
00:34:22I mean, he had that great coming.
00:34:24He only played in two games last year
00:34:26and he came off the bench.
00:34:27Yeah, and that first game back,
00:34:29he had probably the best shooting thing.
00:34:30That took him over the hump.
00:34:32That first game back was a typical Boston Garden game.
00:34:35Because that crowd just,
00:34:36you've experienced it how many times
00:34:39and that crowd goes wild.
00:34:40I'll tell you, the Staples Center has,
00:34:43the crowd has gotten better there.
00:34:44I mean, we used to make fun of you guys in LA
00:34:46because you show up late, the fans don't cheer,
00:34:50they eat sushi, but it's gotten much better.
00:34:53Well, we got a new generation of fans now.
00:34:57You got younger kids that have grown up now
00:34:59and they're really appreciated.
00:35:00So now when they go to the game when they're 18, 20, 23,
00:35:04they got kids, they got a job now,
00:35:06they can identify with the players
00:35:08because they've been watching them for a while.
00:35:09Boston just has always had that.
00:35:11The fans have been just so raunchous there
00:35:13and sometimes they go over the line,
00:35:15but you know what?
00:35:16You grow to love them.
00:35:18Yeah.
00:35:19I have a love-hate relationship with the fans of Boston,
00:35:21but I always will respect them
00:35:23because they know the game of basketball
00:35:25and they know what they're looking at.
00:35:26Coop, I just come across on YouTube on my feed,
00:35:30the 1988 Red Auerbach honoring Kareem at the Garden.
00:35:38And it was so awkward, but at the same time,
00:35:41those fans, I think they gave them
00:35:42like a six minute standing ovation.
00:35:45I mean, so those-
00:35:46They know talent when they see it.
00:35:47They know good players.
00:35:48They did it for Dr. J too, when he retired.
00:35:51I mean, they just cheered for like 10 minutes, I think.
00:35:54And that stuff, I think as opponents coming in,
00:35:58yeah, you hate them maybe
00:36:00when they're being a little out of line,
00:36:01which happens once in a while,
00:36:03but you respect them because they do know the game.
00:36:05I really thought that they were,
00:36:07when I retired, would bring me back
00:36:08and kind of give me something
00:36:10and give me a standing ovation, but they didn't.
00:36:12So I don't take that personal
00:36:14because they didn't do it for Isaiah Thomas.
00:36:16Oh, they would never do it for Isaiah.
00:36:18Dude, I'm gonna tell you something.
00:36:19When they retired KG's number,
00:36:21Isaiah came back to the Garden to not introduce him,
00:36:25but there he's his mentor.
00:36:26So to stand with him,
00:36:28he got booed like it was 1987 all over again.
00:36:32And after-
00:36:33How long? Did he get a six minute boo?
00:36:35It wasn't six minutes, but it was long.
00:36:36And afterwards I was talking to him and he goes,
00:36:38you know what?
00:36:39Here, that's not a boo, that's love.
00:36:43Exactly.
00:36:43And I said, I agree with you.
00:36:45If I had come back and they did that
00:36:47and they would boo me-
00:36:48Well, you wouldn't get booed.
00:36:49Thank you, because you guys are finally saying coo.
00:36:52Yeah, coo, you might get that.
00:36:54You would get coo.
00:36:54You wouldn't get boos, I know that.
00:36:56I remember being a kid when they'd introduce you
00:36:58when you did start on occasion,
00:37:00I would say, why are they booing their own player?
00:37:02Same thing with Chief.
00:37:03When he'd get introduced, Chief, everything would get booed.
00:37:07You know what?
00:37:07I love Robert Parris
00:37:08because I'm seeing him on TikTok now.
00:37:10He and his wife-
00:37:11Oh, he's on TikTok now.
00:37:12Yep, that was me.
00:37:12I got him on TikTok.
00:37:14He's trying to loosen him up,
00:37:16but he cannot loosen up.
00:37:17He's still all stiff.
00:37:19And he's so damn funny.
00:37:20Like, you know from being on this show,
00:37:22he's funny as hell.
00:37:23But man, when he's not in the mood, he is stoic.
00:37:26Stoic.
00:37:27I had dinner with him during the finals.
00:37:28What a hell of a nice guy.
00:37:30He's funny as hell.
00:37:30Oh, Chief is so nice and stuff like that.
00:37:33He's not on my list here, Coop.
00:37:34We're gonna do bench, or start bench cut.
00:37:37Well, let me tell the people,
00:37:39you're listening to Showtime with Coop,
00:37:40and Nick has got the show rolling for us.
00:37:43He's hitting us with some lefts and some rights.
00:37:45Too bad the Boston, what do you guys,
00:37:48the White Sox, Red Sox couldn't do anything
00:37:50because it's all about Dodgers, baby, Dodgers.
00:37:53And I don't know if they can repeat,
00:37:55but this is our year.
00:37:56But Coop, the Patriots sent the Dodgers
00:38:00back to L.A. in their jet.
00:38:03Now, you wanna talk about Boston hating New York?
00:38:07That's hatred, right?
00:38:11Either or.
00:38:12Nick is getting ready to take us into our next segment.
00:38:15And it is SBC, baby.
00:38:19And what I did, Coop,
00:38:20is I tried to keep it somewhat positional or thematic, right?
00:38:23So my first cluster for you is defensive guards, all right?
00:38:29So I'm gonna go with Gary Payton, the glove.
00:38:33Honest, that's an obvious pick.
00:38:35Walt Frazier, Clyde, and Dennis Johnson.
00:38:39Ooh, that's a good one there.
00:38:42Gary Payton, Walt Frazier, Dennis Johnson.
00:38:48Ooh.
00:38:49That's a tough one,
00:38:49because I know you love these people.
00:38:50I'm going to, I'm gonna start Clyde.
00:38:55And the only reason I'm gonna start him-
00:38:56You're gonna cut D.
00:38:57Because Clyde had flavor.
00:38:58He had flair.
00:38:59He had that charisma.
00:39:00I know, I know.
00:39:02And he had those hell of a great sideburns.
00:39:04Yeah, man chops.
00:39:06You gotta love those things, man.
00:39:07So I'm gonna start Clyde.
00:39:10I'm going to,
00:39:14woo, I'm going to
00:39:18bench Gary Payton.
00:39:20You're cutting D, man.
00:39:21With the glove.
00:39:22I love the glove, man.
00:39:23The glove is something special.
00:39:25And I have to cut my boy, DJ.
00:39:27Now, DJ and I grew up here in Southern California.
00:39:31And unfortunately he was great with the Seattle Supersonics.
00:39:35He was great with the Phoenix Suns.
00:39:37And then he went to the Boston Celtics.
00:39:40And that just kind of kills it for me.
00:39:41But I love DJ.
00:39:43I love his family.
00:39:44I love, yeah, I have to go.
00:39:47DJ, I gotta cut you, boy.
00:39:49And I know you probably-
00:39:49Let me ask you a DJ question.
00:39:51DJ question.
00:39:52Because right now there's a lot of talk
00:39:54about Derek White of the Celtics
00:39:56being one of the greatest blocking guards.
00:40:00At least as a Celtic.
00:40:03DJ can block shots, man.
00:40:04Oh, DJ was phenomenal, man.
00:40:06DJ, you know what?
00:40:08He had the whole package.
00:40:09And again, people, if you haven't watched DJ,
00:40:12the only time you saw him when he was with the Celtics.
00:40:15Go back.
00:40:16Go back and watch him when he was
00:40:17with the Seattle Supersonics in 1979
00:40:20when they won the championship.
00:40:21Him and Gus Williams, that backcourt,
00:40:23with downtown Freddie Brown.
00:40:25Freddie Brown, yeah.
00:40:25They were the most feared threesome in the league.
00:40:27DJ, a great ball handler, could score.
00:40:31Athletic.
00:40:31But his forte was defense.
00:40:32Gus Williams, man, Gus was fast.
00:40:34They were very good.
00:40:35So look at that.
00:40:36But you know, I hate to cut my boy, but I got to.
00:40:38So one more question.
00:40:40You think that Walt and Gary
00:40:42had better pickpockets better than DJ?
00:40:45Is that why you're going with them?
00:40:46Or is there, what, why cut DJ?
00:40:50Well, the glove-
00:40:50Because of the Patriot.
00:40:52Walt Frazier was a scorer.
00:40:54But he was a defender too.
00:40:55He worked his way in at the score,
00:40:57but he just had so much fucking flair.
00:40:59I got to go with him on that.
00:41:00He had the big afro and the whole thing.
00:41:02Kind of defined the 70s, to a degree.
00:41:03Yeah, I guess, yeah.
00:41:04He was, and then he used to wear fur coats
00:41:07and come to the arena.
00:41:08Guys think they dress now?
00:41:10I get some of the footage from the NBA.
00:41:12You know who still dresses?
00:41:13Artis Gilmore.
00:41:14Did you see him at the Hall of Fame?
00:41:15I love Artis.
00:41:16I saw him at the Hall of Fame.
00:41:17He was there.
00:41:18Took a picture with his daughter.
00:41:19But Artis still got flair.
00:41:21But Gary Payton, Gary was just a unique individual
00:41:24in his own.
00:41:25Really, really, we almost can give him, almost,
00:41:30because there was a lot of trash talkers then.
00:41:31Gary could always get the trash-talking award
00:41:34for the talk.
00:41:35But the glove was something else, man.
00:41:36Could score, but just feisty.
00:41:38I love that look he had.
00:41:39Gary had the look.
00:41:41You know, like, you ain't getting spit on.
00:41:43He just had the look about him.
00:41:44The look of the dog, yep.
00:41:45DJ was Mr. Nice Guy.
00:41:48And I've never seen so many freckles on a guy.
00:41:50And on a black guy, especially.
00:41:53All right, next cluster.
00:41:56Charles Barkley, Elgin Baylor, and John Havlicek.
00:42:02Charles Barkley, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek.
00:42:05I'm going to,
00:42:08I'm going to...
00:42:11Wow, this one's the toughest.
00:42:13I'm gonna start,
00:42:16I'm gonna start Charles Barkley,
00:42:17because he was an absolute beast.
00:42:20And people don't recognize it.
00:42:22And when he came out of Auburn, man,
00:42:24the first couple of years with the Sixers,
00:42:27Doc had to roll him in, man.
00:42:29But I have never seen anybody so powerful like that.
00:42:33And eventually Carl Malone came on.
00:42:34But Charles Barkley was the first big, big guy
00:42:37that was so powerful, could jump, athletic,
00:42:39and still had a nice little jumper.
00:42:42So I'm gonna start Charles.
00:42:45I'm going to, this is a hard one.
00:42:48I know, I know, because you love these guys.
00:42:50I'm going to bench John Havlicek.
00:42:52You're cutting Elgin.
00:42:53And the reason I'm benching John Havlicek
00:42:55is because he was my idol, even though he was a Celtic.
00:42:58But John Havlicek had the ability to play many positions.
00:43:03And he was just a perfect six man.
00:43:06If I couldn't start Elgin, I got to cut Elgin,
00:43:09because Elgin's not a bench player.
00:43:10But I love Elgin Baylor to death.
00:43:13Elgin was one of the first players to play with one hand.
00:43:15Growing up, we used to all go in our backyard
00:43:18and go to the basket and leap and lean on, and all of that.
00:43:21Chick Hearn would call Elgin out.
00:43:23The sweetest player, sweetest three player in the game.
00:43:25Three man is a small forward.
00:43:27So I'm gonna start Charles, bench John Havlicek,
00:43:31and I have to cut Elgin.
00:43:33But again, I'm cutting him with tears in my eyes, Nick,
00:43:36because he's a Laker
00:43:38and one of the greatest to play the game.
00:43:39I know people, were you crazy?
00:43:41Hey, I might be a little crazy.
00:43:42I'm getting older, my age is 68,
00:43:44but I got to put a Celtic ahead of the Lakers
00:43:47for this one time.
00:43:47Well, Coop, in all the practice sessions
00:43:50you guys have had or whatever,
00:43:51you know, the legends come in and out.
00:43:52Did you ever have Elgin come in and put up a couple shots?
00:43:56No, I never.
00:43:56That's weird, right?
00:43:57Elgin, by that time, had moved on to the Clippers,
00:44:00but I always enjoyed meeting him.
00:44:02I always enjoyed meeting Elgin and spending time with him
00:44:06and his lovely wife, Elaine.
00:44:07And you know what, I was with Elgin
00:44:10probably about two weeks before he passed.
00:44:13I remember that.
00:44:14We were at an event together.
00:44:15And Elgin, you know what,
00:44:16Michael Cooper, you were a very solid player.
00:44:18I like solid players.
00:44:19A gentleman, right?
00:44:20He was a, pardon me?
00:44:21He was a gentleman.
00:44:22Yeah. A gentleman.
00:44:23Yeah, a gentleman.
00:44:24Elgin, I loved Elgin.
00:44:25And you know, again, he's one of the ones we missed.
00:44:28Coop, were you at the pickup game
00:44:29where Magic was playing and Wilt ended up pulling up
00:44:33and ended up playing with them?
00:44:35No, I didn't see that one.
00:44:36No, oh, it's a great story.
00:44:38You got to Google that one.
00:44:39That's a great story.
00:44:39Wilt Chamberlain?
00:44:40Wilt Chamberlain ended up in the gym.
00:44:43And Magic, I don't know if there was,
00:44:46he called foul on the play.
00:44:48And Riley was like, that ain't no foul.
00:44:50Keep going.
00:44:51And Wilt played with them.
00:44:53And Wilt was knocking down threes.
00:44:54There's footage of it somewhere on YouTube.
00:44:56Ask Magic about it.
00:44:57I don't recall that, unless I-
00:44:59Yeah, you might not have.
00:44:59It was in the summer.
00:45:00It was in the summer.
00:45:01It was a summer game.
00:45:02But you got to ask Magic about that.
00:45:03It's a great story.
00:45:04I will.
00:45:05All right, let's see.
00:45:06Let's move on to,
00:45:07did you ever have any interactions with Wilt?
00:45:09Yes, yes.
00:45:10We used to come around before he passed.
00:45:12He would come.
00:45:13I got a picture of my wall in there.
00:45:14I'm gonna show it to you the next time.
00:45:16It's got me, Magic, Norm Nixon, Jerry West,
00:45:20Elgin Baylor all in it.
00:45:22And Norm was talking shit to Wilt.
00:45:24And Wilt grabbed him like this and was shaking him.
00:45:26And they took a picture of that.
00:45:27So I'll show you that one.
00:45:30But Nick, before we go on, I'm gonna give you one.
00:45:32All right, go ahead.
00:45:33Oh, you have a show for me too.
00:45:34And this is a Boston Celtic one.
00:45:36So it's gonna be hard for you to do it either way.
00:45:38John Havacek, Bill Russell, Paul Pierce.
00:45:43Havacek, Russell, Pierce.
00:45:46Oh, I'm gonna start Russ.
00:45:50Bench, Paul.
00:45:53I hate this one a lot.
00:45:56I gotta cut Hondo.
00:45:57I gotta cut Hondo.
00:45:58I don't know why even, because Paul, I would probably,
00:46:01I think I'm gonna cut Paul.
00:46:03Hondo was more.
00:46:04Make your pick, Nick, who are you going with?
00:46:05But like, listen, like, you know,
00:46:08Havacek and Pierce could play both positions.
00:46:12Havacek was a better defender, I think, right?
00:46:16And a better, probably a better leader to a degree.
00:46:19Paul got better as he got older.
00:46:21Yeah.
00:46:22Explosiveness, athleticism,
00:46:24all that stuff you gotta give to Paul.
00:46:26But, and clutch.
00:46:28You gotta kind of split between the two of them.
00:46:30They were both clutch.
00:46:33I'm more of a generation.
00:46:35I'm starting Russell.
00:46:36I'm more of the generation of Pierce.
00:46:38I'm about five years too young for Hondo.
00:46:42I never saw him play, so I'm gonna go with Pierce.
00:46:45Oh, you're gonna go with Pierce.
00:46:47Yeah, I'm gonna go with Pierce.
00:46:48So it's Russell, Pierce, Havacek.
00:46:51Yep, I'm gonna go Russell start, Pierce bench,
00:46:54and I'm gonna cut the legendary John Havacek.
00:46:58Well, you would have definitely cut Paul, right?
00:47:00You would have cut Paul, right?
00:47:03You would have cut Paul?
00:47:06Coop, could you hear me?
00:47:09You know, I'm having mic issues here.
00:47:11Yeah, I would have cut Pierce.
00:47:12I was thinking about Russell,
00:47:14but Paul Pierce could score.
00:47:16Paul Pierce could score,
00:47:17and it's just sacrilegious to cut Russell.
00:47:19But if you put Pierce and Havacek together
00:47:22against today's opponents,
00:47:23I think that'd be a damn good duo.
00:47:26Oh yeah, for sure.
00:47:27For sure.
00:47:28All right, back to me.
00:47:29Only reason I'm leaving Russell there
00:47:30is because he always talked highly of me as an announcer.
00:47:33Oh yeah, that's like Tommy Heinsohn.
00:47:35That's like Tommy Heinsohn is your number one player
00:47:38of all time because he loved you on the broadcast.
00:47:39Russell actually made me.
00:47:41He actually said, hey, watch this Cooper from the Lakers,
00:47:44man, watch him.
00:47:45Really?
00:47:45Yeah, people started watching and liked what they saw.
00:47:48And Bill Russell.
00:47:49When he was on the broadcast, he did that?
00:47:50Or was he just?
00:47:51When he was broadcasting on CBS.
00:47:52He was not very good,
00:47:54but he was good enough to point you out.
00:47:56That was great.
00:47:57How about him and Rick?
00:47:58That's all that matters.
00:47:59That's all we care about, right?
00:48:01That's why we love Tommy.
00:48:02All right, I got another one.
00:48:04Vince Carter, Michael Jordan, Dominic Wilkins.
00:48:08Ooh, that's a tough one.
00:48:10And I know you love Vince.
00:48:11And I know you love Dominic too.
00:48:14I love all three of those.
00:48:15I know, I know.
00:48:16I'm gonna have to start Mike.
00:48:18Of course.
00:48:19But Mike was something else, man.
00:48:21He started a whole new generation of high flyers
00:48:25and he started the whole fashion industry in the NBA,
00:48:28baggy pants and all that.
00:48:30And then he had his own style with the tongue hanging out.
00:48:32So all of that.
00:48:33And Nike.
00:48:34So I'm gonna go with Mike.
00:48:34You gotta give him Nike, he's Nike.
00:48:36Yeah, so I'm gonna start Mike.
00:48:42I'm gonna bench Dominique.
00:48:46I gotta go with the human highlight.
00:48:47Cause I would love just to see him dunk in the game.
00:48:51And I mean, Vince Carter is the same way.
00:48:53And Vince, my 24 Hall of Fame mate,
00:48:57we'll always be tied together in that.
00:48:59I have to cut Vince.
00:49:00It's gonna hurt though.
00:49:02But yeah, that is a good one there.
00:49:05That's a very, very good one.
00:49:06Because they're very, very similar.
00:49:07Start Mike, bench Dominique.
00:49:10Cause Dominique could score with the best of them.
00:49:13And then Vince, ooh, that's a tough one.
00:49:16Can I keep him on as a bench?
00:49:18Okay, well, all right, I got cut.
00:49:21Vince was an amazing in-game dunker,
00:49:23but people forget how powerful and amazing Dominique was
00:49:26as an in-game dunker.
00:49:28Who was better?
00:49:30Dominique could play the game of basketball, man.
00:49:32And-
00:49:33It was almost a Laker.
00:49:35The jumping ability.
00:49:37Ooh, I mean, Dominique could jump.
00:49:41Yeah, that's powerful.
00:49:42That's a good one.
00:49:44That's unfair, Nick.
00:49:45I call foul on that, man.
00:49:46You could tell I did my prep work today, Coop.
00:49:48I'm stumbling here.
00:49:50You could tell I did my prep work for this episode.
00:49:52Oh, you did.
00:49:53And I'm loving it, okay?
00:49:54All right, here's one.
00:49:55And you know, it wouldn't be one
00:49:56if I didn't throw the legend in it.
00:49:57So Larry Bird, Kevin Durant, and the Joker.
00:50:02That's a tough one.
00:50:05I'm gonna start Bird.
00:50:07Um, and only, that, because I got the ultimate respect.
00:50:12Now, I love Kevin Durant, and the Joker's good, too,
00:50:15but I gotta go Larry.
00:50:17Larry's gonna win you some games.
00:50:18And sometimes Larry will win the game
00:50:21as he did in the Detroit Piston set
00:50:23with a steal, playing defense.
00:50:25Larry steals the ball, throws it in, DJ score.
00:50:28So I'm starting Larry.
00:50:30I'm gonna, uh, bench KD, and the reason that,
00:50:38because KD has an unstoppable mid-range game.
00:50:42And, uh, KD can score.
00:50:45The Joker, it's hard to cut him.
00:50:48It is so hard to cut him.
00:50:49Solid all around.
00:50:51Joker's a high double-double, 28 points, 20 rebounds.
00:50:55But, um, I like the quickness of KD over him,
00:50:58and the Joker is a prodder.
00:51:00He's a Clydesdale.
00:51:02I need thoroughbreds out there.
00:51:03Larry's not a thoroughbred,
00:51:04but he's a good mid-horse runner.
00:51:07He's a, you know.
00:51:08And all that's interesting is, like, in that scenario,
00:51:12probably even being significantly shorter than KD,
00:51:16Bird's gonna post up more than Durant, probably.
00:51:18Oh, for sure.
00:51:20Which is.
00:51:21But Larry makes them other two just as good,
00:51:23because he's a better passer.
00:51:24For sure, no question, yeah.
00:51:26Yeah, I hate to cut the, cut the, uh.
00:51:29All right, let me give you one.
00:51:30Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:51:31Before you give me one.
00:51:32Do you remember in 87, being out West,
00:51:35waiting for the Celtics to either win or lose
00:51:39to the Pistons to play you guys?
00:51:42Do you remember the steal game?
00:51:43And what did you guys think when that happened?
00:51:46Like, because that was.
00:51:46When Larry stole the ball?
00:51:47Yeah.
00:51:48Oh, I thought, I mean,
00:51:50like I just described it by Johnny Moss.
00:51:52I mean, he just went berserk, because you know what?
00:51:55It looked very, very dim for the Celtics.
00:51:57Very, I remember watching.
00:51:59Very dim.
00:52:00And you didn't really know what was gonna happen.
00:52:03And all Detroit had to do was inbound the ball.
00:52:08Now, the funny part about that is,
00:52:10that's all we had to do in 1984.
00:52:12James Worthy taking the ball out.
00:52:14All they do is get it in.
00:52:15Yep.
00:52:16Gerald Henson runs in and steals it.
00:52:17And then, so it was just, that's the Celtic.
00:52:21That's the Celtic mystique.
00:52:23That's the Celtic aura at Boston Garden.
00:52:27Magical things happen for them.
00:52:29And that is truly an arena where you say,
00:52:33never say die till the horn blows.
00:52:35Yep.
00:52:36And when Larry stole that ball, man, it was incredible.
00:52:38And the amazing part is, he had the ability.
00:52:42To find DJ.
00:52:43To hang in the air.
00:52:44Yeah.
00:52:45You talking about Larry Bird hanging in the air?
00:52:46Hanging in the air, yep.
00:52:46Hanging in the air and find DJ.
00:52:48And DJ lays it in.
00:52:49And a tough shot from Dennis Johnson.
00:52:52That could have easily been missed.
00:52:54Yeah.
00:52:54It's sad, but that mystique and that aura
00:52:57that you talk about, if I'm to mention it to fans today,
00:53:01they're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:53:03Celtics fans.
00:53:04They don't even understand what that building meant.
00:53:08They need to go back because that building, man.
00:53:10Take this for instance.
00:53:13Don Nelson, playing the Lakers, shoot a shot.
00:53:16The shot hits the heel of the rim and goes, what?
00:53:20Eight feet above the backboard?
00:53:23And then this shot comes back down, listen,
00:53:25without hitting the net.
00:53:27Yep, yes.
00:53:28That's the mystique and the lore of Boston Garden, man.
00:53:30Yep, yep.
00:53:31Ah, and Pierce had, Pierce had very similar
00:53:35against LeBron in 2007, eight.
00:53:39In game six, they were, I want to say they were down one.
00:53:44He hit the first free throw to tie it.
00:53:46There was like next to no time on the clock.
00:53:49The second free throw hit the back of the rim,
00:53:51went all the way up and dropped right back down.
00:53:54And after the game, Pierce said, I think red lit.
00:53:57I heard red, I smelled cigar smoke when I hit that shot
00:54:01because red lit the cigar.
00:54:03I don't know what it is about Boston Garden.
00:54:05Some miraculous things happened in that arena, man.
00:54:08Yep, yep.
00:54:09And allowed them to be that, but it's still carrying on
00:54:12today because, you know, the last year Celtic teams
00:54:16had a lot of close calls.
00:54:17They did.
00:54:18The Garden.
00:54:19Especially against Indiana.
00:54:20Indiana, there were some, Jalen Brown
00:54:22hit some miraculous shots.
00:54:24Yep.
00:54:25At the Garden to tie, put that game into overtime,
00:54:27win the game.
00:54:28It was great last year.
00:54:29All right, we got two more, Coop.
00:54:31Oh, you have one for me.
00:54:32Got one for you.
00:54:33All right, go ahead.
00:54:34Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
00:54:40Oh, come on.
00:54:41I gotta start Kareem.
00:54:43No, I gotta start Magic
00:54:45because he can do every single thing.
00:54:47I gotta bench Kareem and I gotta cut.
00:54:49Big game.
00:54:50Now, I hate to do it, but I gotta do it.
00:54:52Who you gonna cut?
00:54:52You gonna cut Kareem or Magic?
00:54:55Come on.
00:54:57That's like saying Bird, Parrish, or McHale, right?
00:55:00Big game, James Worthy don't get his name
00:55:03by being a little guy.
00:55:04I know it, I know it.
00:55:05All right, your turn.
00:55:06This one's gonna be tough for you.
00:55:08Moses Malone.
00:55:11I just wanna see your face
00:55:12because that's your boy.
00:55:13Rest in peace.
00:55:14Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett.
00:55:18I'm starting Moses Malone.
00:55:19Really?
00:55:20One of the most feared rebounders in the game today
00:55:22and Mo was like, fo-fo-fo, book him.
00:55:25And I love Moses Malone.
00:55:28I love Moses Malone.
00:55:32Duncan or Garnett?
00:55:35I know what I would do.
00:55:36Now listen, I gotta go Tim Duncan.
00:55:39This the fundamental because Tim could do it all, man.
00:55:41And I love Kevin Garnett if nothing else
00:55:45because he looks like me.
00:55:46Dark, bald-headed, and Kevin Garnett was a feared,
00:55:49feared player.
00:55:50Fierce, yep.
00:55:51You know, he really came into his own at Boston.
00:55:54I think he was being carved in Minnesota.
00:55:57He was being carved out to be the Celtic leader
00:56:00and champion that he became.
00:56:02He became like the modern day Russell.
00:56:04That's a tough one.
00:56:04Tim Duncan because, man, Tim was just so solid.
00:56:07And you know, all those players weren't gonna do
00:56:10the wrong thing.
00:56:11All of them are great teammates.
00:56:13But Moses Malone was a high double-double.
00:56:1630 points, 30 rebounds.
00:56:1830 points, 25.
00:56:20MVP.
00:56:20Moses used to get an offensive rebound,
00:56:23throw the ball, get an offensive rebound,
00:56:25throw the ball.
00:56:26And somebody asked me, said, I gotta pad my stats, man.
00:56:29Because I know I'm gonna score.
00:56:31I gotta pad my stats for rebounds.
00:56:32So I love Moses Malone.
00:56:34Oh yeah, rest in peace.
00:56:35And man, you want to talk about longevity.
00:56:37The funny part about that is I talked to Moses
00:56:39about a week before he passed.
00:56:40He used to call me.
00:56:42Hey Coop, how you doing, man?
00:56:43And we would just talk about things, you know,
00:56:45and anything.
00:56:46And yeah, I really miss him.
00:56:48But Moses, by starter.
00:56:51Longevity.
00:56:52Longevity with Moses.
00:56:54I mean, Moses played so long and was productive for so long.
00:56:58He wasn't the player he was in Houston or Philly.
00:57:00But he was worth it.
00:57:02I used to hate, and I would hate this
00:57:05because James Worthy was a sweater.
00:57:06But Moses Malone would be dripping sweat.
00:57:08And he'd get the basketball, hold it here,
00:57:10and then he'd throw it out to you.
00:57:11It's like a sponge when you get the ball.
00:57:14It's a ball soaking wet.
00:57:16No, but yeah.
00:57:17What about Ewing?
00:57:17What about Ewing talking about sweat?
00:57:19Patrick Ewing.
00:57:20Oh yeah.
00:57:21No one sweat more than Patrick.
00:57:22I don't know what's wrong with you guys.
00:57:23That's a grand or something.
00:57:23I sweat it, but not like that.
00:57:24You got me drenched.
00:57:26No, you L.A. boys glowed.
00:57:27You didn't sweat.
00:57:29You said we glowed.
00:57:30You glowed.
00:57:31You had glow.
00:57:32You didn't sweat.
00:57:33Your last cluster here, Coop.
00:57:35I don't even know how you'd pick this one.
00:57:37Steph,
00:57:39Shy.
00:57:41Steph who?
00:57:42Steph Curry.
00:57:44Shy.
00:57:45No, Shy.
00:57:48Alexander, how do you say, I can't say his name.
00:57:51Oh, the kid from OKC?
00:57:53Yes, yes.
00:57:54Or he's an MVP candidate right now.
00:57:56I mean, it's early, but he's good.
00:57:58Or Pete Maravich.
00:58:01I'm going Steph Curry, starting Steph.
00:58:04I'm going to, and that's Steph can score.
00:58:08He's a flat out scorer.
00:58:08One of the best scorers in the NBA.
00:58:10And I'm not afraid to say that anymore.
00:58:12Steph Curry is the best shooter the NBA has ever seen.
00:58:14I agree.
00:58:17I'm going to,
00:58:20I'm going with Pete Maravich
00:58:22because people don't realize how good
00:58:24pistol Pete Maravich was going all the way back
00:58:27from LSU being coached by his dad
00:58:29and then coming to the NBA.
00:58:31He was probably one of the, he was magic.
00:58:34Isaiah Thomas.
00:58:35Tiny.
00:58:37He flashed before it was flashy.
00:58:38And I mean, look at some old films
00:58:41where Pete Maravich could play and he could score.
00:58:43Plus I like his floppy socks.
00:58:45You know what, I almost changed my look back then.
00:58:47Those long socks used to be around his ankle and stuff.
00:58:50I used to dress like that until I got my scissors back.
00:58:53I wasn't going to play like that.
00:58:54But anyway, and then I have to cut
00:58:58Chi Gildress, a great young player,
00:59:01up and coming in about maybe 10 years.
00:59:04If he continues to do what he's going to do,
00:59:07that may change if you were to ask me about him.
00:59:09But right now I got to go with Steph.
00:59:12Pistol.
00:59:13Any good pistol Pete stories?
00:59:16No, because I played against him at the end of his career
00:59:19when he was at Utah.
00:59:20And it was a hell of himself then.
00:59:23He had a lot of injuries and stuff like that.
00:59:26But again, pistol was,
00:59:28I think the best move I've ever seen anybody play.
00:59:30He's playing against the Lakers.
00:59:32He's coming down and he's dribbling the ball
00:59:34and he's just dribbling and all of a sudden
00:59:35this guy's going like this and the ball dribbling.
00:59:37Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:38And then he ends up tapping it.
00:59:40Yeah, tapping it.
00:59:40Kind of like Bird did.
00:59:41Bird did it, yep.
00:59:42I had never seen anybody play the game like,
00:59:44not even Walt Frazier who had that kind of flair.
00:59:46But this kid here, pistol Pete and the long beetle cut,
00:59:50you know, his hair is in his eyes almost.
00:59:53Like dude, put your hair back, wear a headband.
00:59:55White boy and a white boy, you know,
00:59:56you almost feel like he's indelible.
01:00:00Like he's going to live on
01:00:01because so many, I don't want to say better players
01:00:04because he was really good,
01:00:05but so many more charismatic or pronounced players
01:00:09have been forgotten who won championships.
01:00:12So you know what I'm saying?
01:00:13Never forgotten, but don't get mentioned much.
01:00:15Pistol Pete, I don't know if it's the nickname,
01:00:18the legend of him or whatever.
01:00:20I think kids 20 years from now are going to be out
01:00:24in the ballpark saying, oh, it was a pistol Pete move.
01:00:27You know what I mean?
01:00:28That's because he's white chocolate.
01:00:30Nick, he's white chocolate, man.
01:00:31He played, he was white, but he played like a brother.
01:00:33Played like a brother.
01:00:34Yeah, man, pistol Pete.
01:00:36And just, I mean, had a weird shot.
01:00:38Weird shot.
01:00:39He covered his face almost.
01:00:40But I mean, a phenomenal player,
01:00:42even greater person had an opportunity
01:00:44to talk to him one time.
01:00:45And how you doing, Michael?
01:00:46Sweetheart, right?
01:00:47Oh, hey Pete, I'm eyes big as everything
01:00:49and kind of looking at this guy.
01:00:51He was just so humble, humble and very, very,
01:00:53you know what, he's a little bit insecure about himself.
01:00:56And again, that came on with his upbringing
01:00:59and probably being coached by his dad, who was crazy.
01:01:02Right, right.
01:01:03And that's why I don't coach my kids.
01:01:04I want my kids sane.
01:01:05But no, Press was a great coach.
01:01:09And again, having a son, it was lucky.
01:01:10But again, Pete Baravich, people forget about him,
01:01:14but don't sleep on him, man.
01:01:15Good story that Max tells.
01:01:17And I know it's true because other people have,
01:01:19Corobola Max tells true stories,
01:01:22but I've heard him tell it to like Chief
01:01:24and him talk about it, Parrish, right?
01:01:26So Bird is a rookie
01:01:30and Maravich is finishing his career in Boston.
01:01:36Pete, I have to remember it right.
01:01:38Pete is dribbling the ball up court,
01:01:40puts it into Larry in the post.
01:01:42Larry gets double teamed and forces up a shot.
01:01:47Bill Fitch calls timeout.
01:01:49Celtics are walking back to the bench
01:01:51and Pistol looks at Bird and says,
01:01:53I was wide open.
01:01:54You gotta pass that shot back to that.
01:01:57You gotta pass that back to me for that wide open shot.
01:02:00And he said, Pete, if you weren't so fucking washed up,
01:02:02you wouldn't be wide open.
01:02:04I'll take it again.
01:02:05A rookie to Pistol Pete Maravich.
01:02:11That is classic, right?
01:02:13That's a classic story.
01:02:15Max tells it so well.
01:02:17I'm glad I got out of the game
01:02:18before anybody said that to me.
01:02:19Well, Coop, this is fun this week.
01:02:23This is fun.
01:02:24Do you have anything else before we wrap up?
01:02:26You know what?
01:02:27That's it.
01:02:28Another great edition, episode.
01:02:30This is fresh and brand new out the can, baby.
01:02:33We're getting ready to send it to you that way.
01:02:35But again, I promise you in the future,
01:02:37we're gonna have some really special guests.
01:02:40I got two and one that you don't like.
01:02:42I'm gonna say Tim Hardaway.
01:02:43You don't like him for whatever reason, Nick.
01:02:45I'll just stay out of the game.
01:02:46But I love Tim Hardaway.
01:02:47And he's probably gonna come on the show
01:02:50so I'm gonna get him.
01:02:51But we're gonna have some more guests come on
01:02:52because we gotta give them S, B, C.
01:02:56We gotta do Dick Bavetta.
01:02:57Start, bench, or cut.
01:02:58Could you imagine Dick doing start, bench, cut?
01:03:01He'd be lost.
01:03:01That'd be great.
01:03:02That's for sure.
01:03:04We should do, wait a minute.
01:03:05We should do senior citizen start, bench, cut.
01:03:07We'll do Bob Ryan.
01:03:09We'll do the guy, the writer out in LA
01:03:11that has been around for a million years.
01:03:13We'll do Bavetta and see how they do with start, bench, cut.
01:03:16Yeah, let's do that.
01:03:17We're gonna get some people on here.
01:03:18That'd be funny.
01:03:19That's gonna be our new thing.
01:03:20Nick, have a good one, man.
01:03:22Enjoy this Sunday.
01:03:23A lot of football to be watched.
01:03:24Yeah, baby.
01:03:25And I'm gonna keep my eye on the Celtics
01:03:26and see if they can continue
01:03:27this so-called impressive streak.
01:03:30Oh, I'm gonna keep my eye on those Lakers, too.
01:03:32We outta here.
01:03:33All right, love you.
01:03:34Love you, bro.
01:03:35See ya.
01:03:36♪♪