Sister Wives S19 Episode 8
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00:00Previously on Sister Wives.
00:02No, we're not engaged.
00:04And here we are looking at wedding venues.
00:06Great place to have a wedding.
00:09I'd marry you here.
00:11It is moving extremely fast.
00:14Faster than I think I would like it.
00:18My plan is to renovate the carriage house
00:21and just kind of run my business out of there.
00:23You're not going to see anything before the final reveal.
00:26You understand that, right?
00:28I've always been very well aware that I'm a control freak.
00:31And I know that that's something that I need to let go of a little bit.
00:36The property needs to be paid off.
00:39So how serious is anybody really about living on that property?
00:41Is anyone really going to live there?
00:43He's not talking to me about it, so I think I'm going to have to lawyer up.
00:47I'm embarrassed that my divorces have created contemptuous enemies.
00:54For me now, my prayer was just like, save me and Robin.
01:05I feel like the idiot that got left behind.
01:23David's going to come over for dinner.
01:48All my kids are coming over.
01:50Some of my kids are great with David.
01:52Some of my kids who are like, hmm, on the fence a bit.
01:56Japanese sundaes, you down?
01:58Sounds delicious.
01:59Cool.
02:00And then David will just be here any minute.
02:01And please be nice this time.
02:03This time?
02:04We're always doing this.
02:06Payden and Gwendolyn have not met David yet.
02:09But Gwendolyn's not here tonight.
02:11Payden is, so he's going to meet him for the first time.
02:14He's never had this smoothie before, so I thought it would be fun.
02:16Have a good brown family meal.
02:18After Christmas, the kids talked about how they missed all of our traditions.
02:23So I felt like it was important to bring something back.
02:26Some of the ones that the other moms did.
02:28So this is something that Mary used to do.
02:30But Janelle actually called them haystacks.
02:32Hawaiian haystacks.
02:34It's just chow mein noodles, and then it's chicken and cheese and soup.
02:38Almonds, and some people put pineapple on it, which is disgusting.
02:41I think the rice should be done too.
02:43Hey!
02:44It's here!
02:45Oh my gosh, behave yourselves!
02:47It's a man!
02:48Oh my gosh.
02:50I'm really excited to meet David.
02:52I suspect that immediately, as soon as he walks in,
02:55all four of us are going to immediately insult him in some way to just establish,
02:59that's right, this is who we are.
03:02Now I'm a little bit nervous.
03:03I'm a little bit nervous that they're not going to behave.
03:05This is important for them to get along, I'm just saying.
03:09They're already crazy.
03:11Hello.
03:12Hi baby, how are you?
03:13Not too bad.
03:14Good.
03:16Our relationship is moving really fast.
03:18We've been together for a couple of months.
03:20Mom's boyfriend is here!
03:23Ooh.
03:24This is it.
03:25I'm going to marry David.
03:26I just am.
03:27Hello Richard.
03:29Richard?
03:30Who's Richard?
03:32His name is David.
03:33Nobody's Richard.
03:34What show is that from?
03:35I just called you Richard.
03:37God, he's old.
03:39Is he too old for Mom?
03:41I think he's too old for Mom.
03:44David, did you like any of the venues you saw?
03:47Yes, I really loved the Red Cliff Lodge.
03:49It was a really cool place.
03:51Is it big enough for the 700 guests you'll have?
03:54Your talk is 700?
03:55I don't think they're 700.
03:57No, I can believe it.
03:59Ours was 400 plus.
04:01They know lots of people.
04:02That's fair.
04:04700?
04:05I have that too.
04:06Yeah, that's right.
04:07There's polygamy on your side.
04:09David actually has two sisters who lived polygamy.
04:12He never did, or wanted to, or anything like that.
04:15And his sisters don't live it anymore.
04:17They haven't for like 30 years.
04:19My oldest sister, she got divorced from her husband.
04:23And my other sister kind of got divorced,
04:26but it wasn't really divorce.
04:28And then her husband passed away.
04:30So that's how she got out of polygamy.
04:34You have a date?
04:35Yeah, what's the date?
04:36The 22nd of October.
04:38That's October.
04:40That's the day before my husband's birthday.
04:42Well, we're not celebrating his birthday, okay?
04:44Don't do it.
04:45Don't do it.
04:47So we're looking at October in Moab.
04:50To get October in Moab,
04:52you have to get your wedding venue right away.
04:55Because it fills up.
04:56Because October is crazy in Moab.
04:59So yes, we are getting married.
05:02We have a wedding date.
05:04But we're not engaged yet.
05:06I am surprised by how fast things are going.
05:09My mom did just get out of a 25-year relationship
05:14and then starts talking about getting married.
05:17It does seem really, really, really fast.
05:20Does David need to ask your dad for a blessing?
05:22Because that's how it works, right?
05:24David did ask my dad.
05:26What?
05:27Already?
05:28David asked my dad if he could marry me.
05:31It meant the world to me.
05:33So he got along really well with my dad.
05:35It was a great conversation.
05:37And then David's like,
05:38So, you know, I'd like to ask for your blessing.
05:41And my dad just reaches over and he goes,
05:43Yes.
05:45So fast.
05:47My dad's like, Yeah, yeah.
05:48Of course you can marry Chris.
05:49That's great.
05:50You know, you can marry Chris.
05:52Just like that.
05:53It was just like that.
05:54And then my dad made him a plate of food
05:56and brought him a plate of food.
05:58Grandpa who takes 10 minutes to rise from a chair
06:01got up to make him a plate of food.
06:03Yeah.
06:04Only me.
06:05Nobody else.
06:06It was cool.
06:07But it was a really, really good experience for sure.
06:09It's getting serious.
06:11It's getting serious.
06:12Getting serious.
06:14It's been serious since you guys went on your first date
06:16and you got mad that he wouldn't kiss you.
06:18That was the second date.
06:19Second date.
06:20Yeah, gosh, Mikael, deep.
06:21Look, second date, we went to see The Little Mermaid.
06:24There is a song, Kiss the Girl.
06:26It's all about all these little animals
06:30swimming and singing,
06:31trying to convince him to kiss her.
06:34It's the perfect opportunity to kiss a girl, OK?
06:36It just is.
06:37And he didn't.
06:39I'm not that type of guy.
06:40I'm going to be a gentleman and I'm going to wait.
06:43And she just has to wait too, whether she liked it or not.
06:47I am going to put it all out there.
06:48I was married to a guy for like 20 odd years
06:52with so much uncertainty.
06:54And I am not entering a relationship with uncertainty.
06:57The third date, he made up for it.
06:59You kissed on the second date?
07:00Third date.
07:01We kissed on the third date.
07:02Oh, you kissed on the third date.
07:03It's three dates and then sex.
07:05That's the rule.
07:06Hey, thanks for that.
07:07Hey, I was just saying.
07:08I really appreciate that.
07:09That's the rules.
07:10I think that my siblings and I were all very much
07:12humorous with each other.
07:13We're all quick-witted.
07:14For somebody to, like, click with us really well,
07:17they have to give and take with the sarcasm,
07:21with the barbs back and forth.
07:22And David picked that up day one.
07:25Did you guys fart in front of each other yet?
07:27Uh, I don't think so.
07:30No, not yet.
07:31But that easily could be done.
07:32You guys haven't farted in front of each other yet?
07:34Do you talk to him while he's pooping on the toilet?
07:36God, no.
07:37Bye-bye.
07:38Why would I do that?
07:39I don't do that.
07:40Weird.
07:41No, I wouldn't do that with my girlfriends or my kids.
07:43Really?
07:44Not have I text?
07:45Oh, yeah.
07:46Yeah.
07:47It was very clear to me that Christine's whole goal
07:49in leaving me was to find her soulmate.
07:52So expect that once she was out of here and in Utah,
07:56she would be dating.
07:59And I have not heard anything about it.
08:03I'm actually not interested in it.
08:05I'm just like, wish you well.
08:08Now can we start eating?
08:09Go.
08:10Make your food.
08:11That's beautiful, Mom.
08:12Do you get it?
08:13The layer, the stuff.
08:14It has to be done just right because the flavors
08:16have to not fight each other.
08:18They have to blend with each other.
08:20Exactly.
08:21Uh-huh.
08:22I love you so much, baby.
08:23Let's blend these flavors.
08:24No!
08:26Let's blend these flavors.
08:28I'm not really used to seeing my mom
08:30be affectionate with somebody.
08:33And I haven't seen it in a while, I feel like, so.
08:36I remember Mom dancing with Dad in the kitchen in Vegas.
08:40But it's somebody new.
08:43And so that's what's different to me.
08:45I'm not totally familiar with her kissing somebody else.
08:49And so when she does it, I'm extremely caught off guard.
08:52I'm just, you know what?
08:53I'm just testing them.
08:54They have to get used to it.
08:56It's just what's going to happen.
08:57To be comfortable in front of my kids,
08:59they kiss in front of me, I'm going to kiss in front of them.
09:02You guys are all good?
09:03Wait, you guys are all good with just getting married,
09:05then, apparently?
09:06Good?
09:07Good?
09:08Tony, I knew this was coming.
09:11I think I need to get to know him better.
09:14I'm just not ready.
09:15We have six months after Gwendolyn's wedding.
09:18It's just too close.
09:20It's just too close.
09:21McKelty and Tony tease me all the time
09:24because I was, like, put the brakes hard
09:27on their relationship.
09:29Mr. Tony.
09:30Mr. Tony.
09:31Has asked for McKelty's hand in marriage.
09:36I would be a little more comfortable with December.
09:41It'll be a difficult experience for me
09:44to have you guys celebrate it
09:47only two months after doing Madison's wedding.
09:50Okay, that's going to clobber me.
09:52I remember what it was like being on the other side
09:55and not understanding at all why you guys had to rush.
09:58I'm like, why do you have to rush?
09:59What's the big deal?
10:00And now I'm like, we didn't rush.
10:02This is ridiculous.
10:03No, whatever.
10:04Yes, I do completely support it,
10:05but, like, if I didn't, would that matter?
10:07No.
10:08Yeah, I didn't think so.
10:10Peyton's having a hard time.
10:11And Isabelle's having a hard time
10:13with how fast we're moving.
10:14She likes David,
10:15but she just thinks it's moving really fast.
10:17When are you meeting Janelle and her boys?
10:20Next weekend.
10:21Really?
10:22Yeah, next weekend.
10:23Yeah.
10:24All of them or...
10:25Whoever can make it.
10:26Janelle fully supports this relationship.
10:28I sent her a picture of David and us together
10:30and talked with her about it,
10:31and she's going to meet David next weekend, too.
10:34I've never met him,
10:35but I hear really good things about him.
10:38He was a guy whose wife died
10:40and he raised eight kids on his own,
10:42so, to me, that's, like, this huge,
10:44shining thing about who he is, right?
10:47So...
10:48And he has a relationship with all his kids still.
10:51Anything else we should know about you?
10:53How many tattoos do you have?
10:55Oh, yeah, tattoos.
10:56I was looking for someone bald,
10:58tattoos, and driving a motorcycle.
11:00So we're going to get tattoos.
11:02Yes, it's true.
11:03Whoa.
11:04You have the perfect leather pants.
11:06I know.
11:07I know.
11:08I have my leather pants.
11:09How cliche and cheesy is this?
11:11How cheesy is that?
11:13Matching tattoos?
11:15That's adorable.
11:18It's...
11:19Might as well get one,
11:20and I'm happy that she's getting one
11:22with someone she cares about.
11:23But also, that's really weird.
11:25Oh, my gosh.
11:26She's going to push me over.
11:27Yeah, I am.
11:29I've been sitting here thinking about Christine,
11:31not in the regret place anymore.
11:33I'm sitting back, looking back,
11:35wow, we had some fun times.
11:36There were some special times.
11:38I would have loved to have had a breakup
11:39where we could have stayed friends,
11:40but I think the reason we couldn't
11:41was because I just felt like
11:43every step of it was a betrayal.
11:45And because of that,
11:46I don't know if I'll ever get to
11:48be in a good place with her.
11:51Listen, you're making it very difficult.
11:53You're fired.
11:54Hey, you're fired.
11:56You can't fire your daughter.
11:59David seems like a really good guy.
12:01I see a future being there,
12:02but also, anything could happen.
12:05Yeah, it does still feel like
12:06it's moving fast, a little bit too fast.
12:08It makes me happy to see my mom happy,
12:11but do I think it's fast?
12:12Yes, still think it's fast.
12:20It's my 55th birthday.
12:22I've lost a sense of direction for my life.
12:25Cody's been a very angry, lost person.
12:30I feel like he's struggling right now,
12:33but it's not who he is.
12:39It's my 55th birthday today,
12:44and I've had an interesting life.
12:48I remember five years ago on my birthday
12:50thinking, okay, I'm halfway through.
12:53What do I want to do for the rest of my life?
12:55What do I want to be for the rest of my life?
12:58Last night, I was up late with Rob,
13:01and I was thinking,
13:02what do I want to do for the rest of my life?
13:04What do I want to be for the rest of my life?
13:06Last night, I was up late with Rob,
13:08and we were having a discussion about our values
13:12and the fact that I've struggled with mine
13:15through the divorce process,
13:17everything that's happened.
13:20I've lost a sense of direction for my life.
13:23There's a struggle that I have had
13:25because I had this big picture that got shattered,
13:29but I have a safe, kind, and sweet place
13:33with my wife, Robin.
13:34And then I have tons of guilt
13:35because I'm not more involved
13:37with everybody else that's out there.
13:41Cody's been a very angry, upset,
13:48very lost person the last few years,
13:52and I have to recognize it for what it is.
13:55It's just him in a painful place
13:57and him in a place of fear that I will leave him to.
14:01What was my purpose 10, 15, 20 years ago, 30 years ago?
14:07It was always my family, my children.
14:12When I was younger, I was so naive
14:15coming into plural marriage, I guess idealistic,
14:18that I think I saw myself sort of surrounded by children
14:22and surrounded by wives.
14:24I literally imagined that my five, six oldest
14:28would be living across the street in homes
14:31with their spouses.
14:32I mean, this is literally what I imagined.
14:40That fantasy all came out of
14:43the affection I felt for my children.
14:46To me, it wasn't a plural family thing.
14:48It was just enjoying my family thing.
14:51I'm hoping that they will not reject this.
14:54Some of them won't even talk to me,
14:56but my new goal will be back to being a dad.
14:59Incidentally, I'm meeting with Janelle tomorrow
15:03for lunch to talk about business and property.
15:07I hope that's good.
15:12Okay, remember who you are.
15:14Remember the guy that I met,
15:17the guy who I saw loving his kids.
15:22And I feel like he's struggling with that right now
15:27because he's so hurt, but it's not who he is.
15:36So that'll be my new thing.
15:38This today is my 55th birthday,
15:40and I have, with God, in covenant form,
15:45reasserted myself to, from here on out,
15:49to, from here on out,
15:51be the loving father and the dad
15:53that has always given me purpose in my life.
15:57Onward and upward with the goals in life
16:01and making my family whole again.
16:04That's my desire.
16:07So David told me a couple of, well, weeks ago, honestly,
16:11he's like, I think it's time for us to go jewelry shopping.
16:14And I'm like, okay, let's go jewelry shopping.
16:17And then he goes, well, ring shopping.
16:19I'm like, oh, my gosh.
16:21So here we are, and today we're going ring shopping.
16:24So we're not engaged, we're just looking at rings.
16:27Hi.
16:28Hi, I love you.
16:29I love you.
16:30I love you.
16:31I love you.
16:32I love you.
16:33I love you.
16:34We're looking at rings.
16:35Hi.
16:36Hi, I'm Lisa.
16:37Thank you so much.
16:38I'm David.
16:39Nice to meet you.
16:40Nice to meet you.
16:41Congratulations.
16:43But I've never gone ring shopping.
16:44Cody just got the ring, and he brought it home.
16:45I'm not one for surprises.
16:46What I like is time spent doing things.
16:48So I love the idea, love the idea of ring shopping.
16:51I talked to you on the phone, and I knew that you liked
16:53the marquee cut diamond.
16:55So I pulled a few marquee cuts, different sizes.
16:58I have no idea what's popular, trendy, modern.
17:01All I know is what I like,
17:03and it's the diamond shape specifically,
17:05and then it's just some different colors of metals.
17:08That's what I'm tending to gravitate more towards.
17:11Yeah, so we could make it your own design,
17:13exactly how you want.
17:14We do it on a computerized CAD system now.
17:17So my first ring with Cody, like the engagement ring,
17:20was a clada ring, the Irish wedding ring.
17:22It symbolizes love, loyalty, friendship,
17:24and that was my engagement ring.
17:26They can give you options there.
17:28If you design it, just do two different options
17:30so you can sit there and look and see.
17:32I think if I get remarried,
17:33I seriously would probably just do a gold band.
17:35I just always was more simple.
17:37I'll have to give him some guidelines of what I do,
17:40and I don't like, I don't like a marquee.
17:43I do like square.
17:45This is my favorite.
17:46I like the twisty thing,
17:48like the different metals and stuff.
17:50I really like that.
17:52Yeah, I have no idea if Christine's dating.
17:54I imagine that she would be,
17:56specifically because that was her goal in leaving,
17:59was to go find a soulmate.
18:03To be fair, I was asked once before,
18:05when do you think it's okay for Christine to start dating?
18:08I'm like, the day she left.
18:10Okay, I'm just so excited.
18:14Oh, my.
18:15Yeah, baby.
18:16Yep, it's gonna be a good day.
18:17Great day, awesome day.
18:19In plural marriage, with the weddings,
18:22you don't feel celebrated.
18:24I just got married.
18:26That was it, and I didn't invite a lot of people.
18:28It's just what was accepted and what was done.
18:31When you're a plural wife, the focus isn't on you,
18:34and it's not supposed to be on you.
18:35It's supposed to be on the family.
18:37But then when I left Cody,
18:39I really thought about the next relationship
18:41and what it would look like, and I wanted all of it.
18:43The bridal shower or the wedding shower,
18:45and I just want to do it all.
18:47Everybody should get what they want.
18:49For me, if I ever get married again,
18:51it's gonna be on the top of a mountain somewhere,
18:53and it's gonna be simple, and I just want a gold ring,
18:55and maybe we'll get married in our jeans.
18:57I'm sure there will come a time
18:59where I will, you know, think about that a little bit more.
19:03But right now, it's just,
19:05it's kind of strange to think about those things.
19:08Okay, rings for him, too. We didn't talk about that.
19:10Okay, I have all kinds of bands over here.
19:13There's different metals, tungsten, titanium, cobalt chrome.
19:17That one, let's see, in the middle.
19:19The black?
19:20That I like, the black one there.
19:22That's nice. I like it.
19:23I like the...
19:24I like that one right there.
19:25Yeah, that's gorgeous.
19:26I like the black ring, because it's cool-looking.
19:28My first ring I had was gold, and it was all right.
19:32You know, married once before,
19:33I just kind of just wanted something different.
19:36What about a stripe of the black metal on my ring?
19:39You could do that.
19:40What about that?
19:41And, Matt, mix them.
19:42Let's do the black.
19:43Let's do that.
19:44That would be really cool.
19:45Yes!
19:46If I match your ring, that'll be fun.
19:48Now, so David and I both picked out our rings.
19:51David has a black ring,
19:53and then my ring has yellow gold, platinum,
19:56and then the marquee, and put them black in there.
19:59It's beautiful.
20:00I didn't know I was kind of an edgy kind of a person,
20:04and it appears I am.
20:05Thank you so much.
20:06So good to meet you.
20:07Remember when we were laying there on the floor,
20:09and I told you I could marry you tonight?
20:12Yeah, I do.
20:13Well, I was ready then.
20:15I know.
20:16I was single for too long.
20:18Yeah.
20:19And then very unhappy, and now I'm very happy.
20:26The clock is really ticking on this note,
20:29and we owe this money.
20:30If I have to take action legally, I will.
20:33What about us?
20:34What about you living on the property?
20:36What about you and me?
20:37Janelle and I talking about reconciliation
20:43is a bull---- pipe dream from both of us.
20:53Well, I have you sitting right here, right?
20:55So the holidays are over with,
20:58and I'm going to go have lunch with Cody.
21:01I haven't seen him in person for a long time.
21:03The clock is really ticking on this note,
21:06and we owe this money.
21:07Because of the breakdown in the family,
21:09there is no communication.
21:11There's no cooperation.
21:12There's nothing.
21:13Hey.
21:14Hi.
21:15How's it going?
21:16Good.
21:17So this is intimate.
21:20At this point, I'm really hoping Cody has something to say
21:24or some sort of concrete plan,
21:26because I don't trust very much.
21:30So I've already started to make contingency plans.
21:33If I have to take action legally, I will.
21:35I've talked to only one lawyer in town,
21:37and there are a lot of them.
21:39So what's the occasion?
21:41What's going on?
21:43Well, I know that you've been not wanting to know
21:47I know that you've been, like,
21:49not wanting to necessarily discuss the property,
21:51but we need to let's kind of put our heads together
21:54because it's coming up.
21:55I mean, it's almost February.
21:57We've got months to go.
21:59We have really only about three and a half months.
22:01And so if we don't have the cash to pay it off,
22:04we're going to need to do some different financing.
22:07If we can't make this balloon payment
22:10that's coming up in, like, three and a half, four months,
22:13technically they could take the whole property back
22:15because we signed a really bad contract.
22:17We were not smart.
22:18Christine left, and because of the equity in her home,
22:21she traded that for her equity in Coyote Pass.
22:24So now Coyote Pass has just got four owners.
22:26How are we going to divide? Yada, yada, yada, yada.
22:28We're still going through that process.
22:29And Janelle's like, well, we've got to pay it off.
22:31We've got to pay it off. We've got to pay it off.
22:33Well, I don't feel like doing you any favors, Janelle,
22:35but I know we have to pay it off.
22:37So I have thought about, are you interested in buying me out?
22:42Wait a second.
22:49You jumped at the end.
22:52What about us? What about you living on the property?
22:55What about you and me?
22:57I don't, I mean, I don't think we even exist
23:00in the same universe anymore.
23:03Like, I think you're awesome,
23:05and whenever we talk I still feel that, like,
23:08you've got this little, this little hook in me or whatever,
23:11but I've been so happy that I don't, I don't foresee,
23:16I don't foresee a long-term thing for us.
23:20I don't even know who he is anymore, really.
23:22Like, he hasn't been in my house for two years.
23:26We haven't really talked about our relationship.
23:29We've had some conversations. It's not like we've not talked.
23:31Yeah, I know, but that's not really having a conversation
23:34about a relationship.
23:37We have had so many conversations where I've said,
23:39it's done, we're done, we're not compatible,
23:41and he's agreed, and he's like, yeah, it's really sad.
23:43I don't, I, I, like, why are we talking about that?
23:47I feel like it's almost like a diversion tactic.
23:49Here's the thing, the things that have gone on,
23:51my relationship with Christine, my relationship with Mary.
23:54Mary and I, fortunately, are in a place
23:56where we'll always be friends.
23:58I'll never say a bad thing about Mary again.
24:01Mm-hmm.
24:03Janelle and I talking about reconciliation
24:08is a bullsh-t pipe dream from both of us.
24:12I talk about reconciling with her
24:15because I'd like to be back in graces with my children,
24:18but I know that reconciling with her
24:21would require some kind of power game
24:25where I gave her all the power in the relationship,
24:28which I think is fair because I had it for so many years,
24:31but I'm not interested in that.
24:33I think it's, it's a fake discussion for both of us,
24:36and the reason is is because I think both of us,
24:39I'm telling you my heart's truth,
24:42don't want to be the one that's accountable for breaking up.
24:46He wants a wife that acts differently than I do,
24:49so it's, it's over, it's over.
24:52I, I guess I don't need some finality piece to say that, so.
24:58You know, you complain about my independence,
25:00and I will complain about your...
25:05selfishness and self-absorbed.
25:07You're a little bit.
25:08Is that in the past two years with the divorce?
25:11No, just...
25:12It's like I always was.
25:13Maybe you always were.
25:18And there's a big question of the kids.
25:21The kids now talk about the dad they grew up with
25:23versus who you are now.
25:25Well, they've shut me out,
25:27and they're going based upon recency bias.
25:30They're going based upon what happened during COVID.
25:33You know, even through the ebbs and flows in our relationship,
25:36he was always a good dad.
25:38Dad always endeared him to me.
25:40But now, I don't know how I would ever reconcile with him
25:43and not have him not have a relationship with my kids.
25:46No.
25:47I'm going to always choose my kids.
25:49I'm always going to choose my kids.
25:51I always felt like your life centered so much
25:53about Robin's house.
25:55Well, in the past two years,
25:56Robin's been this place that things were safe.
25:59Cody, even before that, it felt like there was...
26:03I wasn't as important.
26:07I don't know.
26:08I feel like any time Cody makes a choice
26:10and they don't like it, I get blamed.
26:13There's this new concept that I have Cody
26:17just wrapped around my little finger,
26:19and I'm doing evil spells on him,
26:22and I'm...
26:24Ridiculous.
26:26If you know Cody Brown, you know he's not to be controlled.
26:30And that's why your life is very much centered
26:32around the little kids and all of that.
26:34Always was.
26:35Always was, but I...
26:36You don't have little kids.
26:37Does that mean that the generation gap
26:39between you and Robin is too much to actually bridge?
26:42I don't find I have much in common with her.
26:47And I feel like...
26:51I feel like it's a problem that I'm not...
26:53And then, Cody, there's these times when...
26:55I can remember one time we were traveling.
26:57I think it was my birthday.
26:58And you started getting mad at me
27:00about a conversation that I had had with her
27:03that I don't know how you knew about.
27:07Unless she came to you and told you.
27:09So I had a conversation with Robin years ago
27:12when she was getting ready to buy the house,
27:14and I just said to her,
27:15please, if you cannot buy something
27:18that's gonna chew through our resources...
27:21And, you know, we all agreed.
27:22She was amiable with me,
27:23but apparently she went and told on me to Cody.
27:29And Cody's like, well, you were so mean to Robin
27:31about blah, blah, blah.
27:32And I'm like, well, I don't know how you know about...
27:35I don't know how you know about that conversation.
27:37I didn't ever say anything to you about it, so...
27:40I didn't tattle on Janelle.
27:42I just told Cody that Janelle and I were in agreement
27:45about not buying my home,
27:47and then it turned into some big, huge thing,
27:49and I got into trouble with Janelle
27:51because Cody got after her.
27:53It was just that her and I agreed,
27:55and I thought that was important to tell him.
27:57Don't go down that road.
27:59We're trying to heal things.
28:00More destruction isn't gonna help us here.
28:03Okay, then I...
28:04If I can't talk freely,
28:05then let's just leave it as I don't really want to.
28:10This happens every time the kids talk to him about Robin
28:15or I talk to him.
28:16It's like, he just doesn't want to go there.
28:18That's his sacred cow.
28:19She's perfect.
28:20Don't dare talk about her.
28:21And I'm like, well, dude,
28:22how do you expect to be in a plural marriage with me
28:25if you have this person that you worship?
28:28That's part of being a husband in a plural marriage.
28:30You have to be able to hear everybody equally.
28:34So, today is my birthday,
28:36and I get to finally see my carriage house all done.
28:40A little workout area, you've got a yoga area.
28:43Oh, I can't wait.
28:44And we can do my pole dancing.
28:47I mean, TRS.
28:49I'm officially a single woman,
28:51and that's really been weird
28:56to wrap my head around.
28:59It's my birthday!
29:01So, today is my birthday,
29:03and I get to finally see my carriage house all done.
29:08Blair has been here working on it,
29:10and Jen has really taken on the role of contractor.
29:15She's done an amazing job.
29:17This is like, I don't know,
29:19I feel like it's been a long time since I've done this.
29:22I feel like it's been a long time since I've done this.
29:25She's done an amazing job.
29:27This is like a very, very good birthday present for me this year.
29:31It's just good timing.
29:33All good timing.
29:34It's only been just about a month
29:36since I officially split from Cody.
29:39I'm grieving a loss of what I thought was going to be forever.
29:44That is just weird.
29:46I don't know what other word to put to it,
29:49except for it's just weird.
29:52Hey!
29:53We're ready for you!
29:55We're ready!
29:58I can't just cry and faint.
30:00Deep breath.
30:01You're crying already.
30:02You're already getting teary-eyed.
30:04I'm so excited.
30:06So, the carriage house is going to be my workspace.
30:09I run an online clothing business,
30:12and then upstairs is going to be a gym for me.
30:15This space has just been storage.
30:18It was a cement floor and just basic walls.
30:22Like, they weren't even painted,
30:24and I cannot wait to see it.
30:26Okay.
30:27Are you ready?
30:28Yes.
30:29I have some high expectations for this.
30:32I have seen some of the work that Blair does.
30:35I am so excited to see this.
30:37After you.
30:39Oh, it's really pretty.
30:41It's really pretty.
30:43Oh, my gosh.
30:49Oh, my gosh.
30:51It's completely transformed.
30:54Holy s***.
30:57This is the most amazing transformation.
30:59Like, I can't stop looking at all the things,
31:02all the detail,
31:03all the things that he's hung up on the wall.
31:06But one of the best parts about it is the countertop.
31:09I'm dying. It is amazing.
31:12Amazing.
31:13I need you to direct your eye to that up corner right there.
31:19She's just hanging out.
31:20Had to be front and center looking over you.
31:22Uh-huh.
31:23So when my mom passed away,
31:25we had a bunch of her favorite shirts,
31:28and we had them made into these memory bears.
31:31This is so good.
31:33Oh, I'm so glad you like it.
31:35This is so good.
31:37Oh, you deserve it.
31:39Keeps my mom close.
31:41She loved the B&B.
31:43She loved living here,
31:44so it's just appropriate to have this out here.
31:48Thank you for all this s*** that you had to deal with.
31:52You know, it's no secret that Cody and I
31:54have had struggles in our relationship
31:57for a lot of years.
31:59All that money, we just don't have it.
32:02Here's the thing.
32:03The answer is yes on conditions,
32:06but we don't have it now.
32:08So in the springtime,
32:09I think we might be able to revisit this.
32:11I don't know. I mean, I don't know what time it is.
32:14I'm not gonna wait until the spring.
32:16I can't wait until the spring.
32:17So I actually will probably leave right now
32:20and go do a sale
32:22and start making that other $40,000
32:25and just bust my butt so don't expect me
32:28to be at any family functions or anything
32:30because I need to do it.
32:32In the years since,
32:34like, I really have been doing
32:37basically everything in my life alone.
32:41I've been very independent.
32:42I've been very confident in what I've been doing,
32:45you know, and it's something
32:46that I've had to kind of grow into.
32:49Having this home back in the family
32:53has really been a big part of that.
32:55Oh my gosh!
33:00So for my workouts, I have my stationary bike.
33:03I have a lot of weights.
33:04I do a lot of strength training.
33:06It's my space that I'm gonna go in
33:08and just, you know, whether it's working
33:11or working out or just, like, being me,
33:14like, it's just mine.
33:15It's all mine.
33:16And we can do my pole dancing.
33:19I mean, TRS.
33:21I'm officially a single woman,
33:23and that's really been weird
33:28to wrap my head around.
33:29I'm not ready to look into dating.
33:33It's so new right now.
33:35Like, I'm not ready for that.
33:37So Mary's reaction was everything
33:39we had hoped it would be.
33:40And more.
33:41There were tears, and that made me happy
33:42because she's, like,
33:43she's good about controlling her emotions.
33:46Right.
33:47And she deserves it, so.
33:49Yeah.
33:50I feel so in charge.
33:51Now I'm at the head of...
33:52Well, this is your space,
33:53so you are in charge.
33:54This is my table.
33:55If they don't want you at their table,
33:57make your own.
33:59Here it is.
34:00You made your own.
34:01Come join me at my table, my friends.
34:03Join me at my table.
34:05Hello.
34:06Welcome.
34:07I don't have to be somewhere
34:08where I'm not wanted.
34:11I'm gonna have my own table.
34:14And the people who want to be with me
34:16will be in my life.
34:17And I am so happy about the life
34:19that I'm creating
34:21and the table that I have.
34:24Yes.
34:25Whoo!
34:30Okay, so I did call that lawyer
34:33that you talked to.
34:34Oh.
34:35Janelle has a card.
34:37It says victim on it.
34:38She likes to play it.
34:39I don't know,
34:40but I keep thinking
34:41that you and I could make this work.
34:43In some regards,
34:44especially coming from the culture
34:45that we come from,
34:46he's a failure to have lost
34:48all his marriages,
34:49except for the one.
35:00Here's the thing, Quidi.
35:01The fact that there's these sacred cows
35:03that I can't talk about freely to you
35:05about my emotions and my feelings
35:07is a big indicator
35:08of some things that are wrong.
35:10But you can talk to me
35:11about your feelings and your emotions.
35:12No.
35:13Like, there's a bias,
35:14and I don't want to do that anymore.
35:18A bias.
35:20Janelle has a card.
35:22It says victim on it.
35:23She likes to play it.
35:25I just think that's such a man thing,
35:27a male thing to do.
35:28Like, here I am,
35:29a woman who's really just trying
35:30to speak up and advocate
35:31and protect herself,
35:32and it's labeled as something negative,
35:35victim behavior in this case.
35:37But I just don't know
35:38if we really work,
35:39because I don't feel like
35:40I ever would be on
35:41an equal playing ground.
35:45I want to be able to talk to you.
35:46The playing field is always equal.
35:48Okay, see, this is,
35:49this is why I don't think,
35:51it's like I can't even,
35:52I can't explain to you,
35:53and you're still,
35:55you're getting mad
35:56when I'm bringing up certain subjects.
35:58I'm not getting angry
35:59about certain subjects.
36:01So I just feel like...
36:02And there are no sacred cows.
36:05My primary motivation
36:07for Janelle and I reconciling
36:09would be for our family.
36:15But for us to reconcile,
36:17I will want her and I
36:20to partner with each other.
36:23It's not been a real partnership ever.
36:28I almost don't really consider us
36:31married anymore.
36:33I mean, we're married.
36:34Well, the...
36:35My spiritual belief
36:36says that we're married.
36:37That's, let's,
36:38let's cut the bullshit on that one.
36:40No, you have to know
36:41I really struggle
36:42with how to proceed here,
36:44because I know
36:45I don't want to go back.
36:48I don't want to be married
36:49to him anymore,
36:50but yet I don't even know
36:51who to go ask for a release.
36:54However, I do know
36:56that Mary was able
36:58to just get a spiritual release,
36:59and we are both in the same boat.
37:01We haven't been part
37:02of that congregation
37:03for a long time.
37:05So maybe I, maybe I can.
37:07Maybe I can get one.
37:10I think my,
37:11maybe it's just
37:12the pressure of the faith.
37:13Maybe it's the idea
37:14that I don't want to have a,
37:16another failure.
37:17I don't know,
37:18but I keep thinking
37:19that you and I
37:20could make this work.
37:21I think you and I
37:23would have to be different people.
37:30Yeah.
37:32You know, Cody keeps
37:33bringing up this,
37:34could we get back together again?
37:35And I just don't think
37:37it's really driven
37:38by any real emotion.
37:39Because if we were
37:40truly heartbroken,
37:41you would be seeing
37:42a lot more distress,
37:43a lot more effort
37:45on both sides.
37:46All I can think is
37:47that it's somehow
37:48driven by his ego.
37:49In some regards,
37:50especially coming from
37:51the culture that we come from,
37:53he's a failure
37:54to have lost all his marriages,
37:56except for the one.
37:58What do you really want to do?
37:59Do you want to build out there,
38:00or would you like me to buy it?
38:02Probably the money.
38:03But if the land is what I get,
38:05then I'm happy to build out there.
38:06In fact,
38:07I thought if I took
38:08that four acre piece,
38:09I'd probably just build a house
38:10right up on the hill.
38:11Forget the casino.
38:13If you build out there,
38:14you will be calling me every week.
38:16I know, that's part of run two.
38:17I'm not sure
38:18I can do that independently.
38:20Do you want to try
38:21a love affair again?
38:23The property shouldn't be
38:25the motivation there.
38:26That's, that's...
38:27I need my autonomy.
38:28I need my independence.
38:29You know what I mean?
38:30I just do.
38:32If she builds on Coyote Pass,
38:35I believe
38:38that Robin and I will go,
38:40wait a second,
38:41the ex-wife is on Coyote Pass,
38:44why are we going
38:45to go on to Coyote Pass?
38:46If Janelle built on Coyote Pass,
38:49it would set me free, I think,
38:51because I would leave this area.
38:53If you buy me out,
38:55then I can go where Maddie is,
38:57and you and I have options,
38:59which I have thought about,
39:01moving closer to the grandkids.
39:05Why didn't she call me
39:06to tell me she was having a baby?
39:08The kids are all
39:09feeling very estranged from you.
39:12Maddie has observed to me
39:13that Cody has not been out
39:15to see her kids
39:16since Evie was born,
39:18and Evie's three.
39:20Maddie's like,
39:21why would I tell him
39:22that I'm having another one?
39:23He hasn't really shown
39:24that much interest
39:25in the other two.
39:27They're talking like I've done
39:29some kind of evil to them.
39:31I'm missing something here.
39:34You know, I just, I can't,
39:37there's a lot of nuances,
39:39and I can't be in the middle.
39:43Jealousy and gossip.
39:46No, I think there's
39:47a lot more to it.
39:50I was a hero for 25 years
39:53with these kids,
39:55and now I'm not.
39:58I don't know.
39:59I don't know the answers to this.
40:00I know that it's been
40:01a hard process,
40:03and that I am moving forward
40:06with a lot of disappointment
40:08and failure,
40:10but hope that we can
40:13patch up some of the heartbreak.
40:16Okay, so I did call that lawyer
40:19that you talked to
40:20a few years ago,
40:22because he's the only
40:23real estate guy in town.
40:25Oh.
40:26He said he would meet
40:27with both of us,
40:28because he's talked to you
40:29a few years ago.
40:30He felt more comfortable
40:31if we were both
40:32in the office together,
40:34and it would be simply
40:35a fact-finding thing,
40:37like what we can do,
40:38what the constraints are,
40:40you know, even have him
40:41look at the contract we have.
40:45I think Janelle
40:48would do anything she could
40:49to screw me,
40:50so she's afraid
40:51I'll try to screw her.
40:54And so where I'm at
40:55is I'm bitter,
40:58and I don't care.
41:01We got to head off
41:02the 9-Alarm fire.
41:03Yeah.
41:04Right, and then we can
41:05talk about...
41:06Let's talk to the lawyer
41:07after we've got more information.
41:08Okay.
41:09All right.
41:10Okay.
41:11That's good with me.
41:12Again, there's no definite,
41:13like, yeah,
41:14we're going to do this.
41:15I have made an effort
41:16for you for years,
41:17and what did you give me?
41:19You betrayed me.
41:21She teamed up with Christine
41:22when Christine was leaving.
41:24She gave Christine
41:25her empathy,
41:26her sympathy,
41:27her kindness,
41:28her attention,
41:29her time.
41:30So you worry about
41:31what you're going to do,
41:32and I'll worry about
41:33what I'm going to do.
41:34So, hey,
41:35see you later.
41:36Bye.
41:37Well, Savannah,
41:38I love her.
41:39Okay, maybe it's time
41:40for me to lawyer up.
41:46Next time on Sister Wives...
41:48Cody and I have
41:49officially said
41:50it's not working.
41:51I mean, I wish things,
41:53you know, in the family
41:54could have gone
41:55a different way.
41:57Yeah, me too.
41:59I've had some definite
42:00cutting ties moments.
42:02This is Savannah,
42:03one of my girls.
42:04Hi.
42:05And then this is Gabe,
42:06one of my boys.
42:07I hope that Mary and Janelle
42:09are moving on
42:10with however
42:11their future looks.
42:13Hey, Dad,
42:14Mom's new boyfriend's
42:15going to be there.
42:16Hello.
42:17Hello.
42:18It was a little shocking
42:19to stay on their side
42:20and we'll just try
42:21to not bother them.
42:22I can't imagine
42:23that for me and Rob,
42:24this is going to be
42:25a pleasant experience
42:26at all.