川島・山内のマンガ沼 2024年10月7日 大注目新興宗教サスペンス『スマイリー』を徹底解剖
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00:00It's time for Kawashima Yamauchi's Manga Numa!
00:05Today's theme is...
00:08Manga Gachi Anketo!
00:13I've been saying the title of this manga for the past two years.
00:20I've been saying this manga is coming, but it's already here.
00:26Today's guest is Hattori Mitei, the author of Smiley.
00:30Hattori-sensei is a huge fan of Manga Numa.
00:37He's been watching since the beginning of the show.
00:41We've been asking him to appear on the show, but he agreed.
00:46He even offered to appear on the show.
00:49I'm so happy.
00:51Smiley was introduced to us at a very early stage.
00:56It's one of our favorite manga.
01:00It was also featured in Kawashima-san's salon.
01:04I thought it was a piece of cake because it's Smiley's salon.
01:08This manga was selected as the 5th place in the 2022 Genin Gakuya edition.
01:17It felt like it was 1st place.
01:205th place is 1st place.
01:22It's actually 1st place.
01:25We asked him to appear on the show, but he said he didn't want to show his face.
01:31This is completely normal.
01:35So he's going to show his face while wearing a mask.
01:41It's his first time, right?
01:43He wore a mask and glasses.
01:46He's wearing a mask.
01:51Please welcome Hattori Mitei, the author of Smiley.
01:55I'm scared.
01:57I'm Hattori. Nice to meet you.
01:59That's not Hattori.
02:01That's Shoko.
02:03Excuse me.
02:05Mr. Hattori.
02:07I'm Hattori.
02:09This is Mr. Hattori Mitei.
02:12Did you make this for this show?
02:17Yes, I ordered it.
02:19Mr. Hattori's size?
02:21Yes.
02:22He's the author of Smiley.
02:24He's the author of Smiley.
02:26Shoko.
02:28Shoko is the light that brings happiness to people.
02:31Those who are bathed in the light are waiting for eternal happiness.
02:34He's the author of Smiley.
02:37I can see what kind of person he is in the latest volume.
02:44He's wearing a very creepy mask.
02:47Mr. Hattori, do you watch Manga-No-Ma?
02:50Do you watch Manga-No-Ma?
02:52I watch it every week.
02:54I've been watching it since the time of Mr. Morikawa.
02:58He was the first person who came to see you.
03:01I've been listening to it while I was working.
03:06You've been working while you were drawing?
03:09I don't think Smiley is your source of motivation.
03:12Manga-No-Ma Vol.190
03:15This week's lineup is...
03:18Manga artists who draw popular manga artists.
03:24This week's guest is the author of Smiley, a popular manga that combines religion and suspense horror.
03:31Mr. Hattori Itei.
03:34I don't remember anything.
03:36I'm sorry, but I really don't remember the author.
03:39I don't know because I'm wearing a mask.
03:43Kawashima.
03:45Manga-No-Ma.
03:48Kawashima and Yamauchi, who love manga, talk about manga all the time.
03:56Let's start with Mr. Hattori's profile.
03:59Mr. Yamauchi, please.
04:01I'm Hattori Itei.
04:03I'm 32 years old.
04:05I'm from Gifu Prefecture.
04:07When I was in middle school, I wanted to become a manga artist.
04:12But there were a lot of good artists around me, so I gave up.
04:16When you were a student, you wanted to become a manga artist.
04:21When I was 18 years old, I got a job at a factory.
04:24When I was 20 years old, I tried to change jobs and contacted my parents.
04:27I was told that I wanted to become a manga artist, so I went to a manga school.
04:34Did your parents tell you that?
04:36That's unusual.
04:37It's the opposite.
04:39After graduating from manga school, I worked at a restaurant, a security guard, a cleaning shop, a manga school teacher, and a manga artist assistant.
04:51You did a lot of things.
04:53I did a lot of things.
04:55Did you have no choice but to work part-time?
04:59That's right. I didn't have any money.
05:02Were you poor?
05:05That's right.
05:07I didn't have any money, and my washing machine broke.
05:12The washing machine broke and I couldn't turn the drum.
05:18You couldn't turn it.
05:20The water would flow, but it wouldn't turn.
05:23At that time, I was working at a cleaning shop.
05:26There was a large drum at the cleaning shop.
05:28I saw the drum, turned it, and repeated it over and over again.
05:36I thought I'd do it myself.
05:39All manual?
05:41Yes, all manual.
05:43All manual washing machine.
05:45Did you make this water flow with your hands?
05:47Yes.
05:49With a washing machine?
05:51If you were working at a cleaning shop, you could have done it with a washing machine.
05:55I couldn't wash my underwear.
05:58Oh, I see.
06:00How did you eat?
06:02I only ate tofu.
06:05Because you didn't have money.
06:07You look like a hungry man.
06:10It's because of my jersey.
06:12You have a strong body.
06:14Yes, I'm strong.
06:16When he was 29 years old in 2021, he was in Weekly Manga Goraku.
06:22He was the first serialized manga in Smiley.
06:25That's early.
06:27Is this the first serialized manga?
06:29Yes.
06:31He is a manga artist who draws cult religion and suspense horror.
06:38Why did you decide to draw on this theme?
06:43Why?
06:45Why?
06:47Well, I used to hate making fun of others.
06:53You were afraid of making fun of others.
06:56Yes, I was afraid of making fun of my family and friends.
07:00I was afraid of making fun of others and making fun of myself.
07:07You were afraid of making fun of yourself.
07:09Yes, I was afraid of that.
07:11Have you always been afraid of that?
07:13Yes, I have.
07:15I see.
07:17Is that the reason why you decided to draw on this theme?
07:21Yes, I think that was the biggest reason.
07:24It takes a lot of courage to draw on cult religion, doesn't it?
07:28Yes.
07:30There was a manga I used to draw in Weekly Manga Goraku.
07:34I wanted to draw a zombie with a smiling face.
07:40It's a horror manga.
07:41I wanted to draw a zombie with a smiling face.
07:43I was going to talk about the reason why I decided to draw on cult religion.
07:48But I thought it would be better to start with cult religion.
07:52I see.
07:54Now, let's introduce the manga you've been working on.
07:59Weekly Manga Goraku is in the works since 2021.
08:04The manga is being released in the 9th volume.
08:07The number of copies sold in the 9th volume is more than 1.3 million copies.
08:11It's a big hit.
08:13To give you a brief summary,
08:15the main character is Yui Manamusume, a freelance writer who lost her life in a car accident.
08:22Desperate, Yui Manamusume was taken away by her wife Megumi and spent her days as a homeless person.
08:27One day, a poster of a cult religion that she didn't know came to her house.
08:33The poster changed his fate.
08:35The image of Megumi, Megumi's wife, was on the poster.
08:38The poster said,
08:40Megumi, Megumi's wife, was in the cult religion.
08:45The poster said, Megumi, Megumi's wife, was in the cult religion.
08:51I'd like to ask you a lot of questions.
08:54Today, we have a guest, Sano, a Japanese writer who is in charge of Smiley.
09:00Thank you for coming.
09:02Mr. Sano, you were in charge of Mr. Ninomiya, who wrote Vannibal, right?
09:09Yes, I was.
09:11It's a recent story.
09:13He's no good.
09:16It's okay.
09:18He's motivated.
09:20He's motivated, but he doesn't write.
09:22I'm sure he'll do it.
09:24I trust him too much.
09:26Wait a minute.
09:28It's okay.
09:29I trust Mr. Ninomiya too much.
09:32The sequel to Vannibal is about to start streaming.
09:36We wrote our signatures on the girl's bar.
09:39Are you sure?
09:41I'm sure it'll be fine.
09:43We wrote our signatures on the girl's bar.
09:46We wrote our signatures on the girl's bar.
09:49I wonder if Mr. Ninomiya will be okay.
09:51You talk a lot about Smiley in the manga.
09:54Do you have any feedback?
09:55Thanks to Mr. Ninomiya, I got a lot of feedback.
09:59Mr. Ninomiya was also very happy.
10:02I didn't think he was watching this program.
10:05I don't know if he's happy or not.
10:08It's a super lovey-dovey comment.
10:11I'd like to ask you a lot of questions today.
10:13Here's the first question.
10:15Please tell me your favorite scene and why in Smiley.
10:22Here's the answer.
10:24This is the last page of the 29th episode.
10:27This is the last page of the 3rd volume.
10:29This is the scene I wanted to write for a long time when I wrote the 3rd volume.
10:34I remember that I was happy when I finally wrote it.
10:38I was also very happy with Mr. Ninomiya's reaction.
10:41Let's take a look at this.
10:45This is the scene where the turtle, who has a companion, starts to move in earnest.
10:50This manga is so scary that it makes you wonder who is justice.
10:56I'm finally going to dig it out.
10:58That face. I see.
11:00This is the end.
11:02Did you want to write this scene?
11:05I didn't want to write this scene in the second half of the 2nd volume.
11:12When I wrote this, I was really happy.
11:15You were running towards here.
11:17How did you decide that the reader's reaction was good?
11:20I tend to be egoistic.
11:23When I was egoistic, this was the scene where the reader's reaction was the best.
11:29It was exciting.
11:31It was hot.
11:33It's a horror suspense, but I wanted to write a hot scene.
11:38It's a scene that's burning with revenge.
11:40I was very happy that the reader's reaction was good.
11:43I'm glad that the reader's reaction was good.
11:46Are you egoistic?
11:50I'm egoistic once every five minutes.
11:52That's fast.
11:54You're always watching.
11:56Do you search for smiley?
11:58I search for smiley manga, smiley, and Hattori Mitei.
12:03I search for anything.
12:05You search for smiley Kikuchi.
12:07I search for smiley in my daily life.
12:10I'm sure you'll find it.
12:12Don't you get depressed when you see the reader's reaction?
12:14Don't you get depressed when you see the reader's reaction?
12:16I get a little depressed when I'm told that I didn't understand it well.
12:20It's more of a shock when you don't understand it than when you're hit.
12:23That's right.
12:25Are you egoistic?
12:27I'm egoistic.
12:29I'm egoistic.
12:31I block negative comments and report them as spam.
12:40Why do you do spam?
12:41It's okay to block.
12:43It's an offensive defense.
12:46You go up.
12:48I try to do it in advance.
12:52Because it's dangerous.
12:54Do you do Kawashima-san?
12:57I only do the morning live broadcast.
13:00I watch it during the commercial and search for it.
13:06I don't know because it's live.
13:07I don't know if I'm doing it because I think it's funny.
13:10I'm afraid if I'm angry.
13:12I'm glad I'm receiving it.
13:15I block all the people who are involved in Yamauchi.
13:23I block all the people who are involved in Yamauchi.
13:30I think it's a bug.
13:32I think it's a bug.
13:34I think it's a bug.
13:37It's a bug.
13:39It's important to overlap.
13:42I see.
13:44I also like this scene.
13:47It's my favorite scene.
13:49I took a questionnaire and found this.
13:51I think Kamome is involved in the introduction.
13:56I'm worried about that.
13:58I'm glad I'm not involved.
14:01I'm glad I'm not involved.
14:03I'm not involved in the introduction.
14:06I'm not involved in the introduction.
14:11I didn't know there was a friend.
14:14I didn't know there was a friend.
14:16Until then, I was talking about cultism.
14:20I thought it was only that.
14:24I thought it was only that.
14:27I was excited to see the fight.
14:35It's an organization against an organization.
14:37I thought I couldn't win.
14:40I was excited to see the fight.
14:47How about you?
14:49I thought Kamome couldn't win.
14:53I thought Kamome couldn't win.
14:55I thought Kamome couldn't win.
14:57I thought Kamome couldn't win.
14:59I thought Kamome couldn't win.
15:01I cooked in a refrigerator.
15:06Isn't this a foreshadowing?
15:08I was about to cook vegetables.
15:12It's amazing.
15:14Originally, the story was supposed to be completed in three volumes.
15:20Originally, the story was supposed to be completed in three volumes.
15:22It's a business story.
15:23When I was writing, I was told to continue.
15:28I was told to make it bigger.
15:32As a manga artist, this is the third volume of enthusiasm.
15:37It's expanding.
15:39How was it for you?
15:42It was exciting.
15:44I thought the work itself could be expanded.
15:47I remember going to Mr. Hattori.
15:50Did you get a lot of reactions from the readers?
15:54There were about two volumes.
15:56I thought I could do it.
15:58I told them to expand it as much as possible.
16:01You were the team that made it on the spot, right?
16:08Yes.
16:10After this, Mr. Hattori will talk about Kawashima's favorite scene.
16:16I don't remember anything.
16:19I'm sorry. I'm really a writer.
16:26Mr. Kawashima, what is your favorite scene?
16:28I was absorbed in one volume.
16:32I really like this scene.
16:35This scene.
16:37I asked him why he knew my cell phone number.
16:43There were a lot of people.
16:46I asked him why he knew my cell phone number.
16:51In the previous scene, everyone was walking in the city.
16:55When I turned the page, everyone was looking at me with a smile.
16:58This is scary.
17:00In fact, the city is full of people.
17:04I think it's an opening that symbolizes that it's not just me.
17:08I really like this scene.
17:11Mr. Hattori, what do you think about this scene?
17:14I don't remember anything.
17:21I'm sorry. I'm really a writer.
17:25You don't know because you're wearing a mask.
17:28You were absorbed in one volume.
17:30This is a scene where I think there is a duck eye.
17:35It was a scene where I thought there was a duck eye.
17:41It was a scene where I thought there was a duck eye.
17:45It's a scene where you can see the whole thing in a fantasy.
17:49It's a scene where you can see the whole thing in a fantasy.
17:56It's a scene that everyone is cornered to the point where they can't see the new introduction.
18:01Numa-numa-numa-numa-numa!
18:03Next, we'll reveal Hattori-sensei's favorite character!
18:08I've always wanted to draw this part.
18:10I actually really like this scene.
18:16Let's move on to the next question.
18:19Who is your favorite character in SMILEE?
18:24This is from Sensei.
18:26It's Imanami.
18:28I wanted to draw a scary character that you don't know what he's doing.
18:33I wanted to draw a sober character, so I drew Imanami.
18:38I sympathized with him as I drew Imanami.
18:41I remember crying while drawing him in the scene where he's being tortured.
18:47Let me explain Imanami Akira.
18:51He's a new editor at Weekly Kotcho, where the main character, Kawamame, works.
18:56Aside from his face, he also has the face of a believer in Shinsho-kai.
19:02Sensei, you're in charge of Shinsho-kai.
19:05What kind of character is he to you?
19:08I wanted to draw him as a traitor.
19:13I wanted to draw a sober character.
19:16I thought a traitor would be the scariest.
19:22We think he's a mob.
19:24As I drew him more and more,
19:28I felt like this character was chasing after his life.
19:34I sympathized with him.
19:39That's how I drew him.
19:42In the last scene of the torture,
19:45I felt sorry for him.
19:49You can't help but torture him in the story.
19:53You can't change his fate.
19:56Here's the scene.
19:58This is so sad.
20:03He's being tortured.
20:06Even though he's been doing his best.
20:08There's no dialogue in this scene, right?
20:09No, there isn't.
20:10You just drew him as he is?
20:13Yes, I decided to draw him at the end of Imanami.
20:17I was really happy when I drew him.
20:22I've always wanted to draw this part.
20:24I like this part, too.
20:27The upper right looks good.
20:31It looks like the same face.
20:34I'll cry when I draw this.
20:38How do you decide on the goal?
20:43I think about it in one volume.
20:46Of course, I think about the overall flow,
20:49but I also think about what I want to show.
20:52I see.
20:53That's how you decide on the story.
20:55I see.
20:56That's how you decide on the story.
20:59I see.
21:05Next time, Hattori-sensei will do a serious survey!
21:08With the request of Hattori-sensei,
21:10we'll hold the off-show of YADA-ONI!
21:13In the reverse pattern...
21:20You're supposed to say that.
21:26I'm trying not to show it.
21:28It's scary.
21:29It's scary.
21:30I'm supposed to say that.
21:32What?
21:33Look forward to it!
21:35To be continued...
21:38You're going to release the 9th volume of Smile Gezaki.
21:43How much do you spend on it?
21:46About 90%.
21:48Then it'll be over in volume 10.
21:51It's a simple calculation.
21:53Is there a possibility that it'll be extended?
21:56No.
21:57No.
21:58It's a mistake.
22:00Is there a part where you say,
22:02Yes, there is.
22:03That's...
22:04I'm curious.