Our Stories: Escape From Faith Assembly - With Sara Rundell - Episode 194 Branham Research Podcast - video Dailymotion

William Branham Historical Research

Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham   Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast   Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K  John invites Amy to discuss her escape from the Faith Assembly cult of Hobart Freeman. The discussion touches on the rigid, extreme beliefs of the group, particularly in terms of faith healing, rejecting education, and isolating members from the outside world. The guest shares personal stories about her family’s life in the cult, including faith healing practices, restrictions on clothing, and the suppression of secular culture. Over time, her family experienced increasing legalism and control, culminating in a faith crisis when faith healing failed to help her brother’s broken arm. The episode dives into the emotional and psychological toll of growing up in this isolated, oppressive environment, highlighting themes of fear, indoctrination, and eventual disillusionment with the cult.  The guest's story is one of resilience, as she eventually broke free from the cult's influence, pursued higher education, and built a life beyond the trauma of her childhood. She touches on the challenges of healing from such an upbringing, including the need for therapy and self-reflection, and how difficult it can be to establish healthy relationships and boundaries after growing up in a controlling religious environment. The conversation also delves into parallels between Faith Assembly and other similar religious movements, noting common tactics of indoctrination, fear-based control, and isolation from the outside world.  00:00 Introduction   02:04 Growing up in Faith Assembly   06:01 The role of education and isolation   09:47 Faith healing practices and their impact   14:12 The breakdown of family life in the cult   19:09 Experiencing medical issues and faith conflicts   24:02 Leaving the church after a broken arm   31:09 Deliverance practices and their dangers   38:05 Struggles of reintegration into society   44:00 The importance of therapy and healing   52:03 Advice for those leaving religious cults   ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg  – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

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00:00You

00:30Hello and welcome to another episode of the William Branham historical research podcast.

00:37I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham historical research

00:42at William-Branham.org. And with me I have my very special guest, Sarah Rundell,

00:48former member of Faith Assembly. Sarah, it's good to have you. We have,

00:53Cheno and I have explored all things Hobart Freeman and all things Faith Assembly and

00:58we've had either one or two guests now who are from the Faith Assembly cult and

01:03it's interesting to get different perspectives because what I have found with all of these groups

01:08is that the way in which the group think works, one person's perspective

01:14of the group is entirely different in many cases as another person's perspective.

01:19So very glad to get you on here and to share your story. So maybe you could just,

01:25you know, start by telling everybody a little bit about yourself. Thank you, John.

01:30And it's really a pleasure to be here as so many in the Faith Assembly church. I grew up in a large family.

01:35There are nine kids in my family and it can be hard to get a word in edgewise. So it's really

01:40an honor and a pleasure to have perhaps an hour where I can tell my version of the story

01:45here without massive interruptions. You can imagine what the dinner table

01:50was like for the nine of us and our parents. Yeah, as John said, I actually grew up in the

01:55Faith Assembly church, which is now, of course, commonly referred to as a cult.

02:00I was actually basically born into the church. My parents grew up in Massachusetts.

02:06My parents were actually heading to California. My dad wanted to attend seminary there.

02:11They had heard some of the teachings of Faith Assembly and they had a friend who attended Faith Assembly.

02:16And so they stopped in Indiana to visit the church. And the way my grandmother

02:21in Massachusetts told it, all of a sudden she started getting letters from my mother in Indiana.

02:26She said, what's Imelda, Imelda Kirchhoff, my mother, doing in Indiana? She's supposed to be in California.

02:31And I talked to my parents about this later. What happened? What was it about

02:36Faith Assembly that interfered with your plans? Because, well, obviously I was supposed to be a

02:41California girl and I ended up being an Indiana girl. And my mother talked

02:46about the community and the fellowship that she found in the Faith Assembly church.

02:51I guess initially before everyone had 8, 9, 10, 12 kids, before things got more

02:56and more extreme, it was a gathering of like-minded people who were searching for answers

03:01they couldn't find in common society and couldn't find in other church settings.

03:06And they would get together, they would break bread, they would have meals, they would share scriptures,

03:11they would debate scriptures. So for her it was very much about community. I asked my dad

03:16what he thought. Was it the anointing? What was it that brought you here, drew you here, kept you here?

03:21And he said, you know, there was your mother, your older brother,

03:26and we just ran out of money. So he stopped and he started

03:31working. They stopped in Indiana here and he started working on jobs,

03:36house painting, factory work, so forth. Now he had been the first in his family to

03:41get a degree, which I think Chino and John, you talked about how that was a bit unusual

03:46in Faith Assembly. And people over time were encouraged to not

03:51pursue the education of the world and not pursue even independent thinking at some level.

03:56But at that time when they first joined, and this would have been summer of 1978,

04:01I was then born in 1979, there was a heavy emphasis on what seemed

04:06like an intellectual life. My father thought he was getting college level Hebrew and Greek

04:11courses and so forth, and would spend hours studying the Greek and Hebrew texts.

04:16So he really thought this was a fantastic way to grow as a minister.

04:21He felt called to the ministry and as a Christian, a baby Christian,

04:26newly in his walk with the Lord. Of course, over time it got increasingly

04:31more extreme. One of the main features, John, I know you

04:36and Chino have talked about, was this faith healing, which became kind of one of the

04:41predominant features of Faith Assembly and perhaps in many ways its downfall.

04:46I was born in a hospital. When I was born in 1979, my parents, I guess, still felt they didn't have quite the light

04:51of faith for healing. So I was born in a hospital, in Goshen Hospital in 1979.

04:56My parents then had seven more children, each at home, each without really trained

05:01medical attendance. The way it would happen each time is, you know, I was a little kid

05:06and my parents would be saying, oh, it's time, it's time.

05:11And dad would call, it was one of the sisters from the church, and he would put a big old pot

05:16on the boil and we'd all go to bed. And when I'd wake up in the morning, there'd be a new brother and sister.

05:21And this just happened over and over again for many years. My mom had nine children in 15 years.

05:26So that was sort of, that's how it got started. And of course, being

05:31born directly into the church, that was the only culture that I knew.

05:36It was my everything from the day I was born, that women should wear dresses and you shouldn't

05:41have TVs and you shouldn't go to doctors. Jesus is our doctor.

05:46Ironically, my dad's degree was in psychology. Of course, shortly after joining Faith Assembly,

05:51he tore up his diploma and threw it away because Jesus is our psychologist.

05:56And that, of course, became the driving theme of so much of our lives.

06:02I'm actually glad that you brought that up. We've had people come on the podcast and they have

06:07talked about how the level of community is much more

06:12attractive, I guess you'd say, in some of these cult groups.

06:17I've actually had people who have told me in private, we would leave our cult group,

06:22depending on which one it was, we would leave our cult group if not for the community.

06:27Because we know the moment that we leave, all of our friends and family will instantly cut us off.

06:32And so we're staying here and we don't believe any of it, but we're going to stay anyway.

06:37But one of the points that you mentioned, which I don't think anybody really has, is that

06:42whenever you're under the indoctrination of a doomsday cult,

06:47which these, in effect, were, the education,

06:52there's this need for a human to learn more, and there's a need for education.

06:57But they begin to educate themselves on things that aren't relevant to the world, but instead

07:02relevant to the cult. Now, I preface that with this

07:07caveat. There are a lot of Christians who believe that the study of Hebrew is relevant.

07:12But what I'm trying to say is the focus is so heavily emphasized with the cult

07:17indoctrination that it's a different type of education of the Hebrew language than, say, what other

07:22Christians might have. But anyway, it sounds like you had a large family,

07:27you were in this, and what was it like living that life? Did you feel

07:32different from other Christians? Absolutely. And I know Chinonu have covered this as well,

07:37but there was very much a sense that we and we only had the light. And that light

07:42kept moving and kept getting narrower and narrower over time. And obviously, I was a little child.

07:47We attended the so-called mothership through, where Hobart Freeman

07:52had taught until his death in 1984. We

07:57attended there through, I want to say the late 80s. And then we attended Jeff Barnett's

08:02Church, Faith, Christian Assembly in Acton for probably two or three years.

08:07And we finished at Tim Neely's church in Goshen. So we attended these very splinter offs over the

08:12years. So basically, my entire childhood into my teenage years was

08:17absolutely in this unique culture. And in terms of

08:22education, you mentioned that, you know, and I think the Hebrew and Greek kind of fell off over time. It just became whatever Hobart

08:27said or whatever the preacher said was just the way it was. And we did not,

08:32of course, emphasize education, at least in terms of the way

08:37you or I might think of it or the general American public might think of it. So my mom did

08:42try to learn things like, you know, home canning and gardening and sewing her own clothes and

08:47those sorts of things. But I think the primary education, quite frankly, was, yes, preparing for the

08:52end times, preparing for this idea of immediate obedience, of complete faith,

08:57complete mind control, emotional control. So, you know,

09:02we were the elect, the end time army of God. And we had to have this

09:07sort of mystical, magical connection to God that the general world and certainly other very

09:12well-intentioned Christians who didn't have the light didn't have. So that was everything growing up, right?

09:17That idea you should always be praying, you should always pray without ceasing, you should always be memorizing Scripture,

09:22you should always be ready for Jesus to come back any minute. If you talked about the future,

09:27if you talked about, oh, he springs just around the corner, if the Lord tarries, everything was, if the Lord tarries,

09:32because we thought he was coming back any minute. And I absolutely grew up with that, you know. And so

09:37that was, there just wasn't a focus on planning for the

09:42future, certainly no insurance or sort of meaningful education or degrees

09:47or even things like, you know, I would have loved to have taken guitar lessons or something. There just wasn't a lot of

09:52emphasis on that. There was this idea that if you were going to be good at something, it was the Lord's anointing,

09:57the voice of God speaking through you. It wasn't that you could learn a skill,

10:02build it up and explore it over time, get better at it over time. And so

10:07our education was, as you might expect, quite minimal, right? I actually homeschooled

10:12through the 8th grade. My siblings, most of them were kind of in and out of public school as

10:17there were more and more of us. And as we eventually sort of loosened the strings a little,

10:22increasingly they were in public school. But I homeschooled through the 8th grade. And

10:27my mother had been kicked out of three high schools. She was a 60s,

10:3270s hippie and had eventually gotten a GED. So,

10:37you know, she tried to teach me how to read. And then after that we worked off of

10:42self-tax. And a lot of it was just up to us to complete this sort of self-study program. And mom would send

10:47them the test and they'd give them back. And we just didn't even bother to do school one year. So that's how little

10:52emphasis there was on education, right? So I mean, I would babysit my

10:57siblings or the neighbor kids, sometimes 14, 16, 18 hours a day.

11:02And so it just was not, education was just not a big part of our lives.

11:07And then I was going to be a godly wife and mother. So it was more important for me to know how to

11:12tend the babies, which is most of what I did, I think, when I was younger, even 7, 8, 10, 12 years old.

11:17Yeah, the educational aspect of it was quite minimal.

11:22Yeah. I laughed and had to laugh whenever you said,

11:27should the Lord tarry. There are phrases that we said so many times, I can tell you,

11:32I still say some of them in my sleep because we said them so often. And that was one that the

11:37Branham cult said, if the Lord tarries, nothing can be in the future far enough, but the

11:42Lord might come and take you away. That's how we thought. And our education,

11:47you know, I went from church, from cult churches from

11:52coast to coast, and there were different varying levels of the education

11:57doctrine. Some just outright would not permit it in their churches. Others, it was just,

12:02I don't know if I'd use the word forbidden, but it was strongly discouraged.

12:07They strongly discouraged education because if the world is going to end tomorrow,

12:12why do you need an education? Why would you waste your money on this? Give me, the pastor, your money

12:17instead. It was that kind of thing. And so the similarities, whenever I hear

12:22people talking from the Freeman cult, it's just mind boggling. Even right down to the loaded

12:27language, you know, we're saying the same things. How did the,

12:32you know, the doomsday aspect of this, if the Lord tarries, the opposite

12:37side of that is what if the Lord doesn't tarry? What if tomorrow is the end of everything?

12:42Did that ever affect you in any way as you were growing up in this thing?

12:47I think that was the dominant message. I think we expected Jesus to come back any day, and we were constantly

12:52preparing for that, right? And so memorizing the Bible

12:57or praying or evidencing your connection to God and your faith by having

13:02manifested healings and so forth, that was everything in the church.

13:07And then trying to be more holy and more pure and, you know, women, of course, had to

13:12wear the baggy clothes and you couldn't have TV and you weren't, over time, increasingly

13:17there was mockery of the media, I think, especially as word started getting out about the deaths in

13:22faith assembly. And so eventually we weren't really supposed to have magazines, newspapers.

13:27Now, I will say, I had friends who grew up in faith assembly or a branch office of it who

13:32were very limited in what they were permitted to read. And my parents started out doing that, but we were

13:37voracious readers, my older brother, my sister, and I. And I'll just say, there was almost a

13:42generational divide in my family. The three oldest grew up in faith assembly proper.

13:47The three middle ones kind of overlapped. So they kind of grew up in faith assembly and kind of a little more out in

13:52the modern world after we left faith assembly. And the youngest three primarily were educated in public

13:57school, maybe had, you know, by the time they were old enough to remember, maybe we had TV, we were wearing pants,

14:02we were more of a worldly family. So there's almost a generational divide. But for the

14:07oldest three, it was faith assembly, faith assembly, and increasingly restrictive. And my brother loved to play

14:12baseball. And at some point, one of the preachers, I think this was at Tim Neely's

14:17church at that point, basically said, you know, you shouldn't be bringing your

14:22bats and balls and mitts to church get togethers. It should be about the Lord, not about things of the world,

14:27which was a big difference from when they first started. My dad used to play

14:32basketball, but he used to play games with the brothers, with the preachers at faith assembly early on.

14:37And he'll tell you he had to stop playing with someone because he felt like they cheated. But

14:42it really got more and more like that. Or even, you know, again, in Tim Neely's church, one of the

14:47preachers there started telling people that men couldn't wear T-shirts. They could only wear

14:52button-down shirts on Sunday. Or, you know, it just got more and more what they call legalistic.

14:57So, you know, if people don't believe what we believe, we say they don't have a life. If they go a little more

15:02extreme, then we say they're legalistic. That's kind of how it works in this particular type of group setting.

15:07Yeah, exactly. And it really becomes an us versus them mentality.

15:12There aren't physical barriers around the cult, but instead there's this mental barrier.

15:17We dress this way, the quote-unquote world dresses this other way, or

15:22you know, the unbelievers, and they like to emphasize the rules to

15:27make people realize that they're different. And I don't know how it was in faith assembly, but I know in some

15:32of the Branham cult churches, there were even sermons of how we look different.

15:37You can tell we're Christians because they look different than us. And so it's this us versus them

15:42mentality that grows. And, you know, being homeschooled, it's different because

15:47you're not around children like this. I was not homeschooled, and so I would be

15:52around other kids, and they would be wearing shorts, and I couldn't.

15:57I was allowed to wear some of the T-shirts, but some cult members weren't

16:02allowed to wear those. So there was always this mental tug-of-war that you were playing

16:07in your mind. So you grew up in this, and you had a

16:12lifestyle that was different from the quote-unquote world. What

16:17would you say was the point where you realized that you were different

16:22than those who weren't part of faith assembly? I think I knew that early on.

16:28It must have been 1983-84, we moved to a new

16:33house, and my dad went over and was talking to a retired couple up the street,

16:38and he brought me with him. So they did a thoughtful thing that any grandparent would do.

16:43They turned their little TV onto a kid's show and sat me in front of it to entertain this little child while they got to know

16:48the new neighbor. When we got home, of course, I had to go through deliverance. Now, the irony is I

16:53couldn't see a darn thing on that TV because I was born extremely nearsighted, negative 6.5,

16:58extremely, extremely nearsighted. So my entire life, I had never looked a

17:03human in the eyes. I couldn't see anything. I couldn't see leaves. I couldn't see my own

17:08hand. I'll actually go on that story there.

17:13After we left the church, I tried to imagine a future for myself, and I had such a hard time doing it.

17:18I told my parents, I have to go to public high school. I didn't know movies.

17:23I didn't know pop culture. I didn't know music. I didn't know how to dress the way other people dressed. I went to, I think,

17:28Fashion Bug and got a pair of pants that was 70% off. That's how I started to try to

17:33have normal clothing, normal kind of life

17:38in my own way as best I could. But I had to get glasses.

17:43I had saved up money babysitting for my family for 50 cents an hour when they could

17:48afford it and for the neighbor families at a dollar an hour. My mom drove me to the

17:53doctors. She said he looked at her like she was such a child abuser.

17:58I couldn't see. I couldn't see the expression on his face. But I do remember that when I picked

18:03up my first pair of glasses, so I'm about 15 heading into high school here, I get a little older than most

18:08high schoolers because we didn't do school one year. I'm 15 and I remember walking into the house

18:13and putting my hand on the banister to go downstairs and just picking up my hand and just looking

18:18at it like, right, left. I couldn't believe how detailed it was, how tiny it was

18:23because I'd only ever seen a blur when I looked down at my own hand.

18:28So that was, and you know, growing up that way, all the adults around me, including my father,

18:33they had these stories of miraculous healings. So when my parents got to Indiana, my dad

18:38had, of course, got an Indiana license and he failed the eye

18:43test. He did glasses, I think most of his life, if not all his life. As he was driving away,

18:48he said, no, I prayed. I believe that I was healed. I am healed.

18:53And he went back. He said, I want to retake the eye test. He retook it and he passed. So he

18:58had been miraculously healed. I grew up with those stories, right? And so then there's me and I am blind

19:03as a bat. I cannot read the McDonald's menu. I have to have my little sister read it for me.

19:08And so there was always this idea that there was something wrong with me.

19:13Was it some unconfessed sin? Was it some lack of faith in my part?

19:18But I believed. When you're a child, you don't know any better than to believe. I had a dream when I was a kid once that I

19:23walked on air. And I woke up in the morning and I was in the hallway and I was like, if you have faith and you believe in your

19:28heart, you know. So I jumped up in the air thinking I'd be able to walk on air like in my dream. And it didn't happen.

19:33But I really believed. So I jumped up again and it still didn't happen. I still couldn't walk on air.

19:38And so you think, well, but I believed. How is this not working? And it was the same thing for my eyes,

19:43right? That was always any, you know, and also I had, you know, crooked teeth.

19:48My brother had nice traits. Any, any sort of flaw that you had was a lack of faith on your part.

19:53And there's that constant way of sort of guilt and shame and what's wrong with me.

19:58You know, um, that, that's just, that's just so much a part of,

20:03of your childhood when you grow up in that kind of background. Right. I have,

20:08I'm close to people who were, you know, in the Branham Colts, we didn't have the healing

20:14doctrines to the same level. People could go to the doctor, they could wear eyeglasses,

20:19but there was always this notion that you had stronger faith if you didn't

20:24have to. And so people would try to like, I know this guy,

20:29he took the eye test for the driver's license and he told me he squinted like

20:34everything to be able to pass that without his glasses because he did not want glasses on his driver's

20:39license. And the funny part about that is, well, afterwards you,

20:44you hear the story growing from that into God healed me and I didn't need them for

20:49that. I test, well, no man, you squinted and you, you,

20:52you compressed your eyeball where it could see differently than you normally could.

20:56And things like that, you see both sides of it.

21:00And then you start to understand there's,

21:01there's a little bit more to this picture than what they're telling me.

21:05But I also grew up with people who had chronic illnesses and it's fortunate,

21:10at least in the Branham course that you could go to the doctors.

21:13But the unfortunate side of it is the people who had the chronic illnesses,

21:18they were indoctrinated to believe that their faith was not strong enough and it

21:23was because they had sin in their lives.

21:25And so I can clearly remember one family member in particular just stressing

21:30over what on earth had they done.

21:33They don't even remember the sin that caused them to be in this chronic illness

21:37situation that they had and they had it the whole rest of their life.

21:40I mean they suffered the whole rest of their life.

21:43So things like that,

21:45even though it was different with the Hobart Freeman doctrine version of

21:48randomism, the, the foundation was the same.

21:52It just developed into a more extremist version of it.

21:55And all of this, you know, can be traced back to the healing revivals.

21:59There were varying levels of that doctrine that were spreading throughout the

22:04healing revivals.

22:05What was it like whenever you,

22:08so whenever you realize that now I have,

22:11I can see if I have glasses,

22:13I can see what my hand looks like on both sides.

22:16What was it like coming to terms with the fact that now I'm using this medical

22:22device,

22:23these glasses when all my life I was told not to,

22:26did that create any,

22:28any awkward scenarios for you where you were trying to,

22:32trying to take leaps of faith that you didn't normally take?

22:36I,

22:37at that point I had accepted it and part of the reason I had was,

22:40so we were in Tim Neely's church.

22:43I must've been around 13 and my brother broke his arm.

22:47The number four,

22:50I guess in the line of children broke his arm and came downstairs sort of

22:54cradling a snap,

22:55snap out of the socket.

22:56So we were a straight up faith healing family,

22:58a hundred percent.

22:59So my sister stepped on a rusty nail when she was little.

23:01We prayed for her to be healed.

23:02My brother put his arms through plate glass and,

23:05you know,

23:06four years old,

23:07I think,

23:08and cut very,

23:09very deeply here,

23:10wrapped it,

23:11you know,

23:12in cloth diapers and was bleeding through them.

23:14He's bleeding so badly.

23:15We prayed for him.

23:16He still has a nasty,

23:17nasty scar,

23:18but he was healed.

23:19My dad hurt his back and would crawl from his bedroom down the hallway to the

23:22bathroom to my big,

23:23strong dad,

23:24just pulling himself arm over arm,

23:26you know,

23:27from his bedroom into the bathroom,

23:28but he got his healing.

23:29Um,

23:30that's just how we were.

23:31So my brother broke his arm.

23:32So you have to clean out the socket.

23:33He must've been,

23:34I want to say around eight,

23:35give or take,

23:36I'd have to kind of go back and do the math a bit.

23:37But,

23:38um,

23:39so we put him on the couch and him.

23:41Mom did what you do for someone who's got a fever.

23:43She made him like chicken noodle soup,

23:44but you've got a little blanket around him.

23:45Um,

23:46and he was there for,

23:48I want to say about a week and everyone in the church kept calling us and

23:51saying,

23:52the Lord told me,

23:53or I had this dream or,

23:54you know,

23:55everyone was encouraging us to keep the faith and he wasn't healed after a

23:57week.

23:58And my parents,

23:59um,

24:00I think my dad came home from work.

24:01My mom said,

24:02no,

24:03we've,

24:04we've got to call someone.

24:05We've got to do something about this.

24:06He's not,

24:07he's not healed.

24:08And I,

24:09you know,

24:10I had this absolute faith.

24:11Every time we went into that church,

24:12I looked at the,

24:13um,

24:14there was kind of a,

24:15um,

24:16offense,

24:17you know,

24:18a cross hatch fence behind the pulpit in that little church we were

24:20in.

24:21And every time I went in there,

24:22I was like,

24:23this is the day I'm going to see it clearly.

24:24Thank you,

24:25Jesus.

24:26And it just never happened.

24:27Um,

24:28but anyway,

24:29so we're in this,

24:30um,

24:31we're in this church and we're,

24:32um,

24:33dealing with this,

24:34this broken arm.

24:35My parents actually looked up the OBGYN who would help deliver me in

24:36Goshen,

24:37Indiana.

24:38They looked him up in the phone book and they called him because that

24:39was the last time they'd seen a doctor.

24:40They had no idea what to do.

24:41And he told him,

24:42no,

24:43take him to Goshen,

24:44let them know he doesn't have his vaccinations.

24:45They had to put him in the adult room so he could be around the other

24:46children.

24:47Um,

24:48and we got a cast on his arm.

24:49And,

24:50um,

24:51I think that was kind of the end of the church for us.

24:52Uh,

24:53my parents,

24:54my,

24:55I don't think my mom ever went back to Tim Neely's church.

24:56I think my dad went back a couple of times,

24:57you know,

24:58but they had been starting to tell my parents some pretty extreme

24:59things.

25:00Um,

25:01my mom had been married for just a few months when she was a

25:02teenager and her husband had left her.

25:03And they basically told her,

25:04you've got to leave your husband at 15 years and your nine kids and

25:05go find that guy and remarry him or your whole family is going to be

25:06cursed.

25:07It was that kind of thing.

25:08So I don't know.

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50:37There are usually a handful of moments

50:38that really punch you in the gut.

50:39And there were a couple for me.

50:40There was one that had me curl up and involved

50:41every time I thought of it.

50:42So, that's one that I really worked with

50:43through EMDR, right?

50:44So, you can find those moments

50:45and work through them.

50:46Um.

50:47It does take.

50:48And I think it's even hard

50:49And I've got I've got siblings who won't put in a church who really haven't you know dealt with

50:53Having gone to therapy and so forth it is

50:56It is difficult. I think even when we sometimes get together as a family because there are just a lot of things

51:00We can't talk about

51:01Right, we can't bring it up because I have this perspective is a little more maybe healed

51:05My sister has this memory of being in this horrible situation

51:08What are we gonna do attack our parents? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like it's it's there's just a lot of things

51:13I think as a family we don't talk about and I did have to get away

51:16I went off to France for a year in college. I went off to Morocco for a year

51:20I went off to Massachusetts went to law school. I lived in Washington DC as a paralegal

51:25I went off to Denver it worked as an attorney there

51:27I came back to Indiana and worked for a few years as an adult and I was glad that I had that experience

51:32Because I had been removed long enough that it was just good to

51:37Reintroduce myself and we get to know my siblings as adults and as good people

51:41But yeah, maybe maybe it does take moving away that I do think you've got to be so careful who you reach out to

51:47especially if you go if you've attended a church like that because you're so used to having someone else tell you what to think and

51:52How to act that is hard to listen to and we could call that still small voice. That's religious speak again

51:57It's hard to listen to that voice inside you that says this isn't right for me

52:01You're that what this experience or this Bible verse of this prayer. That's not what I need. It takes a lot of work to

52:08Know yourself know your own thoughts know your own feelings and work through that. Yeah

52:12It's like you're taking you're taking the words out of my mouth before I can get to them

52:17the one of the things that I recommend to people when you have escaped a religious cult and you have been

52:24They've literally weaponized the Bible against you. You're under religious spiritual abuse and words and phrases

52:31They've indoctrinated you to with loaded language based off of those words and phrases

52:36Going to a Christian counselor is counterproductive in many many cases

52:40I actually recommend when somebody escapes a Christian cult don't go immediately to Christian counseling

52:46and it's not that Christian counseling is bad by no means but it sometimes has the opposite effect of what you're wanting and

52:54Sometimes it's better to separate yourself from it for a period of time

52:58And then once you heal once you're able to hear a Bible verse without being without it feeling abrasive

53:03Then that's the point at which Christian counseling can help I am one of the people who after

53:10immediately after leaving and

53:12Gosh, it was probably I don't know five or six years

53:15If I had have gone to a Christian counselor and they were to mention a Bible verse it was so abrasive

53:20It would have just sent me into a state of shock and I just I couldn't do it. I was shell-shocked

53:25Now I'm healed to the point where I can talk about things like that

53:30But I when I left I couldn't and a lot of people really struggle with that. So fully agree

53:37separate yourself from that if you can and

53:39It's all good advice. If you could go back in time and give yourself some advice whenever you were in this

53:47religion and you know now you've got the

53:50The insight of an adult who's escaped. What would you tell yourself to help give yourself some encouragement?

53:55You're doing great. You're doing fine

53:58You know, there's this idea that anything you do is that fall short is gonna cut you off from God permanently

54:03Oh, maybe that's a little exaggerated. You're doing great. You're doing fine. And this isn't forever. There is a world out there

54:09There is a life out there and there's more

54:12to this world and there are more ways to live a good life than you know

54:15I mean sometimes you just wish you'd go back and give your little miniature self a little hug

54:21I'm glad that you came on and yeah that you're able to share your story with others and

54:26Hopefully give some people some help with

54:30Escaping not only the Freeman cult, but the others. So thank you very much for joining us

54:34Oh, it's my pleasure. And you know if there are others who want to talk to someone it would be my honor and pleasure

54:39I have worked through a lot. I can be a good listening ear. Don't have all the answers

54:43I will not quote verses that you to force you back into a bad situation

54:46I can promise you that happy to be a support network for others who might need that as well. Awesome

54:51Well, thank you so much for doing this and I'm certain that our listeners are going to really enjoy it

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55:06You can read weaponized religion from Christian identity to the NAR available on Amazon Kindle and soon on audible

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Our Stories: Escape From Faith Assembly - With Sara Rundell - Episode 194 Branham Research Podcast

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