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00:00But we want to get back to everybody who's still waiting on hold based on our previous conversation
00:04Which was about debo samuel on his own podcast
00:08Saying among other things
00:10Uh, we feel like we've been the best team in the league for a while
00:14And as a 49er fan when you hear a player say that how does it make you feel?
00:19888-957-9570 back to matt in arizona. Hey matt. Thanks for calling. What's up?
00:27How you guys doing good
00:30So to the point about debo's comment like you could say you're the best team
00:33But the best team doesn't make the egregious mistakes that cost them superbowls
00:37so
00:38Kansas city has proven to be the best team but um the label of losers when we talk about the niners are losers
00:45That's a reflection more
00:46How you feel about the game and the team than it is about the outcome the game magnitude is huge
00:51I mean look how easily we're saying the niners are going to bounce back from this past sunday
00:56But we're not calling them losers we expect them to bounce back but after that game they're called losers because it's just a different
01:02Magnitude, but when you also look at the outcome
01:05When you love a team
01:06Your team loses you're hurt. You're upset
01:09So you call them losers and when a team you hate loses you hate watch them you get hyped up
01:13And we do it to the cowboys eagles rams seahawks every year
01:16But if it's a team you're indifferent about
01:18You won't think of them as a loser because you don't really care ask yourself
01:21How you feel about the broncos panthers superbowl like dibs will say oh they stink
01:25but
01:26Do they really I mean do they really?
01:29Do they do they dibs they stay?
01:31Thank you, matt. Good to hear from you. Yeah
01:34It's all relative and you know
01:36You could look at anything you want and i'm looking at the 49ers release that they set out today
01:41In advance of the rams game and this kind of bolsters d boy d bo's point, but it also maybe
01:47infuriates niner fans since 2019
01:50The niners are third in point differential. They're plus 590
01:55Since 2019
01:56They're third in yards per game
01:59In total net yardage. They're number one
02:02Total turnover differential. They're number one. So all these things since 2019
02:082022 wherever you want to draw the line, they're among the top three. They're really good. Yeah, they haven't won the super bowl
02:14So what d bo's saying on the surface is right since he's been around they've been one of the best teams in football winning percentage
02:21yardage turnovers
02:23Touchdowns points all the rest of it except when you get to february
02:27I'm, just not offended by it, but I understand that it's very hard to hear
02:33You know what? I mean? Like I don't think he's like quote unquote wrong on an emotional level
02:39I don't really look at it as a black and white type of a of a conversation
02:43Fact or fiction are they the best team? I mean, obviously this is a subjective comment. I understand why he feels it
02:50I understand
02:51Why he feels comfortable saying it. I I just think as a 49er fan. It's hard to hear
02:57Um, it's hard to hear because they haven't won that game and in many ways makes it worse
03:03It makes it worse
03:04But you're like, I don't know
03:07Think for a second how you'd feel if he had said the opposite
03:10You know what? I mean?
03:11Grandy, would you feel better if he was like look the way we look at it
03:15We're one of the best teams in the league just not as good as the chiefs
03:19Would you like that? I'd like him to say we're one of the best teams in the league
03:23We just haven't quite got over the hump
03:24That's what we're setting out to do this year
03:26But like how many and i'm sorry to paint with a broad brush here
03:29I don't mean to do this and like be a wide receiver-ist
03:32But but how many receivers do you hear in this league talk like that?
03:36Like I mean go around the league and i'm not saying it's all of them
03:40You know what? I mean, but like we've propped up fred warner's leadership a lot
03:45In in in the last handful of days, how many wide receivers do you think sound like fred warner?
03:51or or do most of them sound like
03:54Debo and brandon and tyreek hill
03:57And and jamar chase who has already in my opinion ruined an entire season in his city with his franchise
04:03not many
04:05But I still wouldn't want my receiver to say that the other thing the other thing that that it did
04:09It hints at me yet. Not that they're
04:13not focused that's not what this is at all, but it's almost as if
04:17I get a little worried that there's
04:20They're they're content with what they've accomplished over the last five years
04:25We've been the best team in the league for the last five years. We're great
04:27We're awesome, but you can see his face when he said it and I would argue that like it's coming from a simmering
04:34Frustration that they haven't done it. He also if you're that frustrated about it
04:38I don't I don't know how there's even a thought in your head that you've been the best because if you've been the best
04:42Then what are you frustrated about?
04:44Because you haven't got the the same reason you're frustrated. Well, then you ain't the best. Well
04:49again, you have a very
04:52Mathematical way of looking at this and that you know, like everybody like I said earlier, I think a reasonable person
04:59can disagree
05:00On if you win, does that make you the best automatically? It sounds like you think so. I know a lot of people don't
05:07You sound like you're a little bit more in the middle on that
05:10I am but I don't really i'm not really concerned with who's the best that to me
05:15Becomes a bit of a loser mentality
05:17If you tell me you're the best and you haven't won the title and you've been doing it now for six years then
05:23For me it rings pretty hollow and pretty empty because yes
05:27You're the best and I could give you six more stats that the 49ers have put out since 2019
05:33Where the Niners are among the best lowest three and out percentage their third third and ten conversion rate their third
05:41Highest yak percentage their second most rushing tds their first and this is from the Niners
05:47So all these things since 2019
05:50That the Niners are putting out show that the Niners are among the best teams in football yet
05:56Superbowl is one they're tied for
05:59Fifth along with 28 other teams. Yeah, so for me the whole idea of who's the best team
06:06It doesn't matter. It's a bunch of crap. I will I don't think it's a bunch of crap, but I it's actually I would speak
06:11More strongly than that, but we're on the radio. Okay, who cares? Well, I here's what I it's not about who cares
06:17It's about how does this hit you? That's all that's how it hits me
06:20Well, and i'll agree with you from this standpoint
06:22You want to know where that conversation in my mind has always come up?
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06:41Especially granny and lucas you college football fans
06:45This is how i've always felt whenever we get to the holidays
06:50And the world is screaming and yelling about who should be in the playoffs
06:55And the answer every time
06:58The debate goes to well, who's the better team?
07:01And every time i'll respond and say sports isn't about who the better team is
07:06Sports is about who wins right if it was about the better team
07:09I'm, not sure why we're wasting our time and for many people wasting their body by actually playing the games
07:16People will do this when it comes down to two teams for the last spot in the college football playoff. Well vegas says that
07:23michigan would be favored
07:25over tennessee
07:27By six
07:28They're the better team. I don't care
07:31Michigan has two losses tennessee only has one or none or whatever whatever the scenario is that year
07:38And obviously we're on an uneven playing field you're playing different teams different conferences all of these things
07:43You've got human beings decide who the better team which is absolutely
07:47Absurd, right?
07:48Like it it it would fix college football
07:52If you just especially now that conferences have totally exploded
07:57just
07:58label the conferences conference one two, three, four five and six
08:02and get your your
08:0464 total teams or whatever have eight of them eight conferences of eight teams apiece
08:11And all eight teams that win their conference. Boop off you go. You're in well this year will be closer
08:17You get 12 teams, yeah, but there's gonna be a team or two that thinks that they should be in the 12 team playoff
08:23But at least you've gotten to 12 now as opposed to four which becomes a lot less subjective
08:29But that's the beauty of the nfl and why i'll always support when some seven and nine or now eight nine division winner
08:37Gets to go to the playoffs and host a game
08:39There's no
08:40Who cares what anyone thinks? Oh, we think we should be in that that's irrelevant. Nobody cares what you think
08:47What did you do? Did you win your division? Cool? You're in period agreed
08:52That would fix college football and they're getting closer now with the expanded playoff
08:57but college football is a whole separate show in and of itself and
09:01What tennessee is now doing to its fans by charging them a 10 percent surcharge so that they can take that money
09:08And pay their players is an absolute joke
09:11If grandy's team oregon
09:14If your boy phil knight ever decided that this mattered to him and he wanted to pump a billion dollars into oregon already is
09:20Well, then well, then he needs to do it better if nil if he was doing it, right?
09:25Then oregon would be the best team in college football
09:27Just you wait till wait till january and nobody gives a crap about college football in this town
09:32So that will be the end of the college football discussion. Wait a minute. Grandy
09:36Do you think oregon's the best team in the nation?
09:39Wait till january then win something. That's right. They're going to this year
09:44Yeah, how come you don't and if they don't watch and if they don't then I can't call them the best team in the country
09:50Know that energy you give the niners. Why don't you keep that same energy same energy for the oregon ducks?
09:57Keep that same energy
10:00No, he won't
10:03When debo says that willard, how does it make you feel? I mean it frustrates me, but how does it mean you're a niner fan?
10:08It doesn't frustrate me. I just as I said, that's the best way I can describe it is it's hard to hear
10:13I i'm not offended by it, but it's hard to hear because um, because
10:19Like I agree with him
10:21But you haven't won
10:23And and it almost makes it sound worse. It's like I agree with you dude. You are the best team
10:27So you got to be better in your best moments your biggest moments. That's kind of how like and again fair or foul
10:32That's how we usually assess
10:35The athletes we love the most is what you do in your biggest moments
10:39Steph curry game for boston like that stuff mad bum kansas city
10:44It just cements your legendary status because you've always been great
10:49But in your biggest moments you become even greater and that's an interesting comp
10:53Because we've all said this and we said it then and we're saying it now
10:58The giants were never the best team when they won the world series in 10
11:0212 and 14. They were never the best team. They weren't but did it matter come october?
11:06No, because when you got to october and you had games that you played against other teams in the playoffs and you beat them
11:13Then you know what you were the best team. You were the best team that day. I would argue it made them better
11:19It makes the experience even better when you win
11:22When you're so when you're not the best team and and don't you are the best team when you win the postseason?
11:27That's my point in all of this right demo can say that they're the best team
11:32But no you weren't because you get to february and you weren't good enough to beat kansas city
11:38Not once but twice so the whole idea about best team to me
11:43Matters a grand total of zero because you have a chance to play another team in the playoffs
11:48Yeah, and you gotta win and if you don't beat them, then who gives a crap if you're the better team
11:53That's well what again what he's saying though
11:56I think what he's saying is he's putting urgency on winning this year because in his mind
12:02They're the best and they haven't done it. That's the piece of it. I like I can agree with you
12:07It doesn't matter if you're the best it's more fun to win
12:10Be the team that wins right?
12:11I don't think that the giants were the best team but they won
12:14And so the beer tasted the same were the rams the best team when they won the the super bowl over the bengals
12:20I mean, I don't even think the best team was there exactly the chiefs were the best team exactly
12:25But which but which warriors championship did you love the most?
12:28The first one or the fourth one, right?
12:31Because you didn't think they were the best team or the first one
12:34They probably weren't the best team until you got through 67 and 15 until they were
12:39Until they were yeah, and they weren't until they went through the playoffs and they won the whole thing and then it's like well
12:44You were the best team
12:46Always different because the best team wins more often than any other sport and in the nfl
12:52One bounce one call one this one that everything can turn a football game a lot quicker than you can in the best of seven