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- Hasnaat Malik (Court Reporter)
What happened inside the Parliament House During Arrest of PTI Leaders| Sheikh Waqas Akram's Reveals
September 9th is the Parliament's May 9th..." | Sheikh Waqas Akram's Statement
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum dear viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi, we have with
00:15us Sheikh Pakast Akram who is a member of the National Assembly of Pakistan for Tariq-e-Insaaf.
00:20He was one of the nine people who were arrested that day by the National Assembly or Parliament.
00:28And not just that they were arrested, but there was a lot of criticism on the government
00:35that how can the government or government institutions, state institutions, police or
00:41whoever went inside, how can they go inside?
00:44How can they be arrested?
00:46How can parliamentarians be arrested from within the parliament?
00:50We ask them, how did they reach the fourth floor?
00:53What happened?
00:54Where were these nine people hiding?
00:56When did they start coughing?
00:58Why did they come?
00:59Where were they arrested?
01:01We heard a lot of stories.
01:02I heard yesterday that the Speaker gave food to the nine people, the PTI people.
01:06Yesterday when we were bailed out, the Speaker invited the nine or ten people for lunch in the office.
01:13After lunch we came back to our jails and we were released from there.
01:24What did the Speaker say?
01:26The Speaker?
01:27Yes.
01:28What did the Speaker say?
01:29He said, I am equally responsible for your suffering.
01:31I think that this is such a big event, the 9th of September, that the entire nation should be saddened
01:39because each and every person was a representative of 10-11 lakh people.
01:43And we belonged to the party that has won crores of votes, which has won the biggest mandate in Pakistan.
01:51We were the real representatives of Pakistan.
02:00So the entire nation should be saddened.
02:04And we were saddened.
02:05A lot of people's prayers reached us.
02:07I am saying this because the Speaker was saddened.
02:12To be honest, I saw it when he spoke in the National Assembly.
02:18IG followed the protocol.
02:20Tariq Fazal Chaudhary said that the Speaker was informed.
02:25Whether it was Tariq Fazal or IG, when the IG statement came, we spoke to the Speaker.
02:31IG was saying that all the procedures have been followed.
02:35You have given permission.
02:36And he also mentioned Tariq Fazal.
02:38He said in clear words that he was lying.
02:41The Speaker said that he was lying and he should be ashamed.
02:45The biggest procedure is that you will take permission from the Speaker.
02:51Absolutely.
02:52Not only that.
02:53You know that after the amendment, the Parliament Lodges are also a part of the Assembly President.
02:59And all this is one.
03:00Obviously, a lot has happened.
03:03What can I share with you?
03:06He was also ashamed that when the Custodian of the House was present.
03:12In his custodianship, the representatives of the crores of people of this country were arrested from within the Parliament.
03:21Let me correct a little.
03:23Abduction.
03:24Abduction.
03:25Abduction.
03:26Abduction was done.
03:27Sir, he was not arrested.
03:29I will say that after that you were remanded.
03:33Sir, whoever the kidnappers were, they handed us over to the police.
03:37Now, the FIR should be on the kidnappers and the police.
03:40The police also told us where they have arrested us from.
03:43Just by taking us out of the Cabinet Division,
03:46while taking us out, making videos there and spreading it in the media, this is not the meaning.
03:51As we say, Mr. Imran Khan says that with reference to 9th May, take out the CCTV footage.
03:57We also say that you take out the CCTV footage of the Assembly.
04:02Because this incident is a national incident.
04:06This is an international incident.
04:08This did not even happen to us in the era of Mashallah.
04:11Many doors have passed in front of you in your life.
04:15I don't think that by going inside like this, in the darkness of the night, the Parliament…
04:20I will come. I want to talk about all this.
04:22But I think you have been given bail yesterday.
04:24Yes, bail.
04:25But I don't know how you were given bail, Mr. Judge.
04:27You killed an ASI.
04:29Ali Ameen snatched the Kalashnikov from the police.
04:32That's how it is.
04:33Shoaib Shaheen snatched the pistol.
04:35Barrister Gaur snatched the wireless set.
04:37He is such a powerful man.
04:39You killed the policemen and on top of that you were given bail.
04:42Sir, look, when all this remand was challenged in the High Court,
04:46you asked the High Court judge, especially the judge who has a history of our party,
04:51you listened to his comments.
04:53He said that this is a comedy film script.
04:56Now when a Chief Justice is saying this,
04:58obviously sense prevails and it goes down to the lower court.
05:02That lower court…
05:04You know that the biggest terrorists, the biggest killers, the bombers,
05:08they are given a remand of 8-10 days.
05:10Sir, we know that Ali Ameen was sent on a remand of 8 days.
05:13I think it was cut off.
05:14You opened the Kalashnikov.
05:15The police opened the pistol.
05:18You opened the Kalashnikov, the wireless set.
05:22What were you trying to do?
05:23What was the plan?
05:24All these things were lost.
05:26It must have been hidden somewhere.
05:28Where was the media? Where was the TV channel?
05:30Sir, were you wearing a mask?
05:31No, I was not wearing a mask.
05:33The one who kidnapped us, he was definitely wearing a mask.
05:37All of you were in the assembly.
05:39Yes.
05:40You were arrested.
05:41Yes.
05:42Hamid Raza Sahib was also there.
05:43He was also arrested.
05:45Actually, because the whole assembly was locked,
05:48and this is the reason,
05:49when we were not able to contact the Speaker,
05:51he was saying that at least open the opposition chamber,
05:54the chamber of the leader,
05:55or open our nose lobby.
05:56That was our request,
05:57which was not opened, despite the contact.
05:59It is a pity, but nothing was opened.
06:01No, no, nothing was opened.
06:02I don't know, his hands were tied,
06:03or he was under some pressure,
06:04he could not open it.
06:05He said, there are no keys,
06:06people have slept,
06:07there is no CDA,
06:08there is no such thing,
06:09there is no team.
06:10Anyway, whatever it is, he says.
06:12Was this not the intention?
06:13What do you think?
06:16I personally think that
06:18there was nothing in his hands.
06:21His hands were tied.
06:22There was nothing in his hands.
06:23His feet were also tied.
06:24So, I will continue from here,
06:26the question you asked.
06:27So, the chambers,
06:28which were opened,
06:30I saw a video of all of you.
06:32Yes.
06:33I will try to run it,
06:34if I can run it.
06:35Yes.
06:36All of you are eating.
06:37Where are they sitting?
06:38This is the services branch.
06:39Coincidentally, when we were going out,
06:41they were trying to lock it.
06:42Okay, I will tell everyone one thing first.
06:44We had called Sheikh Sahib for the program that day.
06:47Yes, we had called him.
06:48Sheikh Sahib had sent a message
06:49due to the police situation.
06:50Due to the police situation,
06:51I cannot come.
06:52And the phone was switched off.
06:53Now, when the roads were closed,
06:55I read your message and heard it.
06:58I said, now this means
07:00you are afraid that there will be arrests
07:02and the police will arrest you.
07:03When did you feel
07:04that there will be arrests?
07:05No, we did not feel for a minute
07:07that we will be arrested
07:08because we were inside the Parliament House.
07:10No, no.
07:11When you were coming out,
07:12did you feel that you will be arrested?
07:13Yes.
07:14When we came out,
07:15the session was over,
07:16and we came out,
07:17we were sitting in the cars,
07:19we found out that Mr. Marwad was arrested
07:21very rudely and indiscreetly.
07:25So, we decided that
07:26we will go inside and talk to the speaker
07:28that if the police want to arrest someone,
07:30then we are present.
07:31Remember this.
07:33We are present.
07:34The police can do whatever they want.
07:36We will go outside.
07:37You can arrest us.
07:39And for this,
07:40we sent our Chief Whip outside.
07:42We came inside.
07:43We sent our Chief Whip outside.
07:45The video is available on social media.
07:48He is telling the police,
07:49the SPS or whoever it is,
07:51our Chief Whip is telling them,
07:53which MNA do you want?
07:55You tell us.
07:56We will hand over the MNAs to you.
07:58We had decided this.
07:59We did not want this kind of
08:00rudeness and indiscretion
08:01that they are doing to people.
08:03And the answer he gave
08:05is also available on social media.
08:06He said,
08:07you are coming and going.
08:08Do whatever you want.
08:09We will take whatever we want.
08:11Then we told the speaker.
08:12I wanted selected MNAs.
08:14We were aware of this.
08:15Then later,
08:16all the people who were inside
08:17were arrested.
08:18Then after that.
08:19Sir, tell me this.
08:20You were nine people.
08:21Then you became two.
08:22Yes.
08:23Did you put up a scheme?
08:24No, no, no.
08:25You and Zain Qureshi should be separated.
08:26No, no, no.
08:27There should be two more.
08:28Coincidentally,
08:29those who were close to him,
08:30they used to talk to each other.
08:32And because
08:33there was no such big place
08:35that was not empty
08:36or not open
08:37where nine people could gather.
08:38One of our Maulana Sahib,
08:40Maulana Naseeb Sahib,
08:41he was in the mosque below.
08:42He did not even know
08:43that someone had come.
08:44He brought him
08:45with great care.
08:49After that,
08:50our Chatha Sahib
08:51and Awais,
08:52I think they went
08:53to the second floor of the first.
08:54The room they found empty,
08:55in that,
08:56similarly,
08:57Shafqat Awan and
08:58Safzara Sahib,
08:59they also went to
09:00such a room.
09:01And the room
09:02which we also found empty
09:03and open.
09:04We cannot say empty
09:05because mostly the rooms
09:06were locked,
09:07Kashif Sahib.
09:08Were Awais asking for the phone?
09:09Yes,
09:10Awais.
09:11He asked for the phone
09:12from everyone.
09:13Coincidentally,
09:14only me and
09:15Zain Qureshi
09:16were the two people
09:17who came.
09:18When we found out
09:19that you were outside,
09:20we put our phones
09:21on the floor.
09:22You mean
09:23you made the phone disappear.
09:24Yes,
09:25we made the phone disappear.
09:26You were with them
09:27so you were asking
09:28for their password.
09:29We were asking for the password.
09:30And when he did not give
09:31the password,
09:32I handled it.
09:33So,
09:34Jogar Sahib was not
09:35in a pair
09:36because he stayed
09:37downstairs.
09:38So, he was alone.
09:39And Yusuf Khan Sahib
09:40was also alone
09:41in the lobby.
09:42Yusuf Khan Sahib
09:43was also coming out
09:44and he was also
09:45alone in the lobby.
09:46So, everyone said
09:47that you two
09:48naturally separated
09:49and went to
09:50a mosque
09:51and hid
09:52in your room.
09:53Sir,
09:54listen to me.
09:55When we repeatedly
09:56tell the police
09:57that we will come out
09:58to arrest you
09:59and they say
10:00no,
10:01then there was
10:02something fishy.
10:03At 3.45,
10:04our guards
10:05and my guards
10:06come and tell me
10:07that the masked men
10:08have come.
10:09It was more than fishy.
10:10That means
10:11you know
10:12what happened
10:13before and after
10:149th May.
10:15So, people
10:16started thinking
10:17and they said
10:18that we are
10:19not going
10:20to be arrested
10:21on record.
10:22So, whoever
10:23had to protect
10:24themselves,
10:25they did it
10:26and it was
10:27their right.
10:28Because
10:29there was no
10:30doubt
10:31that in this
10:32case,
10:33no one
10:34could have
10:35done such
10:36a thing
10:37because
10:38no one
10:39could have
10:40done such
10:41a thing
10:42in the court
10:43of God.
10:44Someone
10:45could have
10:46come there.
10:47So,
10:48obviously,
10:49everyone
10:50did it.
10:51But you
10:52were told
10:53that the
10:54Parliament
10:55House
10:56was surrounded
10:57by the
10:58police.
10:59It was
11:00surrounded
11:01by
11:02the
11:03police.
11:04You were
11:05hiding in
11:06a room
11:07on the
11:08fourth floor
11:09and Zain
11:10Qureshi
11:11had a
11:12cough.
11:13Yes.
11:14I used
11:15to watch
11:16movies
11:17where
11:18you had
11:19to make
11:20someone
11:21catch you
11:22and you
11:23didn't
11:24want
11:25that.
11:26So,
11:27I always
11:28thought
11:29that it
11:30was coughing
11:32You didn't catch it because of the cough?
11:34He was complaining to me yesterday
11:36Why did you mention my cough?
11:38No, that was not the reason
11:40Now you are trying to save your friend
11:42He is a gentleman
11:44That he is
11:46He handled everything in a gentleman manner
11:48Sir, even a gentleman coughs
11:50Sir, she coughed
11:52What can we do?
11:54I could have coughed too
11:56It's not a big deal
11:58The room was small
12:00It was a storeroom
12:02It was dark
12:04He was there for 1.5 hours
12:06I was there
12:08There was no light
12:10I think he is a little claustrophobic
12:12It was natural
12:14Now you have seen
12:16what happens on social media
12:18He was such a gentleman
12:20No one was caught because of him
12:22Let me be very clear
12:24If you say so, I agree
12:26When we went to the Parliament House
12:28It was a mess
12:30Such a big building
12:32Rooms on rooms
12:34Floors on floors
12:36When we came out
12:38He told me
12:40Sir, we didn't exercise for 3 days
12:42You made us do it for 2 hours
12:44Now it's your Parliament
12:46We don't know the way back
12:48Let's go
12:50Then we came down
12:52He told you first that he was tired
12:54How long did he stay in the Parliament?
12:56Sir, almost 2 hours
12:58He said
13:00Everything was peaceful
13:02Did he open every door?
13:04I think
13:06his access
13:08was there
13:10where the cameras are
13:12When the electricity
13:14was switched off
13:16He was walking around with a torch
13:18It was a scene from American movies
13:20When you were caught
13:22The lights were switched off
13:24That's why the lights were switched on
13:26That's why we came down
13:28When we came out
13:30He told us
13:32to switch off the lights
13:34because he wanted to take us out
13:36When we were exited
13:38The Assembly lights were switched off
13:40So for 2 hours
13:42The Speaker didn't know
13:44We lost contact
13:46As soon as we were told
13:48We lost contact
13:50We lost contact
13:52When did you lose contact?
13:54You are saying
13:56The last time we had contact
13:58was almost 2.30
14:00And you were arrested
14:02Around 5.00
14:04I think 15-20 minutes ago
14:06Did you misbehave with anyone?
14:08He manhandled some friends
14:10Which was very sad
14:12I think they should not have done it
14:14Because
14:16He did it to a young man
14:18One of his friends was in the mosque
14:20One of them benefited from the mosque
14:22At the end of the day
14:24It's such a sad day
14:26It's such a sad day
14:28It's such a sad day
14:30It's such a sad day
14:32It's such a sad day
14:34MNA Kashif sir
14:36We will be caught
14:38We are in opposition
14:40We already have FIRs
14:42We will be caught again
14:44We will be caught again
14:46This has been happening
14:48Even during our time
14:50We had a long line
14:52This has been happening
14:54It will continue
14:56But this shamelessness
14:58This non-seriousness
15:00The European Union is condemning it
15:02The State Department is condemning it
15:04The whole world is condemning it
15:06Every walk of life person in Pakistan
15:08Who is against PTI
15:10He has also condemned it
15:12You have done something wrong
15:14I think this is shameful
15:16I think this is shameful
15:18And you
15:20And especially
15:22There is an optics
15:24Even during the time of Marshall
15:26They say run the parliament
15:28Because we have to deal with the Commonwealth
15:30Because we have to deal with the Commonwealth
15:32Because we have to deal with the Commonwealth
15:34Because we have to deal with the Commonwealth
15:36Because we have to deal with the Commonwealth
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18:02Speaker laughs
18:26No. Not for a second
18:27This is the same thing I told Speaker yesterday...
18:29this is the same thing I told Speaker yesterday...
18:30on that lunch
18:30not for a second, not for a second Kashi Bhai, we didn't even think that on this FIR or on any FIR, this could happen.
18:41That there could be someone in the Parliament.
18:43Yes, we had to spend our entire life inside.
18:45We had to go outside.
18:47We are sending a person outside, take him, who do you want to take?
18:50We wanted the people who came to meet us, not to be disrespected.
18:53You want to take us, take us.
18:55Sir, but these 7 people who were caught,
18:57I will tell you, these are the sons of a lion.
18:59Collateral damage.
19:01These are the sons of a lion.
19:03When they came to know that 2-3 of us are in Mysore and we are not coming out,
19:07Sir, they passed through the police and went away.
19:10They went to the lodges, easy, comfortable.
19:12One of our MN was in Bhamudas.
19:14Chandi Bhai was there.
19:16In simple terms.
19:17He came back.
19:18And they all came back to see us.
19:20We told them, those friends.
19:22They also brought food.
19:23Mr. Zubair brought food.
19:24No, Mr. Naseem brought food.
19:26We told them, you go back.
19:28We have to finish this false case.
19:31We will go in the morning.
19:32First, we will go to assembly.
19:33We will wash our faces here.
19:34We will go inside.
19:35We will give speeches.
19:36We will do what we have to do with them.
19:38We will do what we have to do with them.
19:39Then we will go in the morning and say, take him.
19:41Okay.
19:42So, this is our, I say, they did this for friendship.
19:45For your sake, for friendship.
19:46Yes, for friendship.
19:47Then why did Mr. Sabzada, I have a lot of relations with Mr. Sabzada, my brothers.
19:50Mr. Sabzada says.
19:51I should have called and asked.
19:52Mr. Sabzada says, I did not go.
19:54They could not reach me.
19:55How did it get locked?
19:56It was on the second floor.
19:57There was a room.
19:58Mr. Sabzada and Shafqat were in one room.
20:01And they were somewhere.
20:03And there were some boxes of CPUs lying there.
20:06So, the lock was broken somewhere.
20:08So, both of them pressed it hard.
20:09So, the lock was definitely locked.
20:11They came.
20:12They tried to open it.
20:13Then they said, there is no one.
20:14So, lock it.
20:15So, lock it.
20:16So, you can also lock it.
20:17It is rocket science.
20:18Why didn't the room get locked from you?
20:19No, no, the room was locked, sir.
20:21With the keys.
20:22Okay, you coughed.
20:24Let it go.
20:25It is not about the cough.
20:30Sir, if the room is locked…
20:31I will have a headache in the morning.
20:32They will say, you are…
20:35The problem is…
20:36Anyone can cough.
20:37Even you can cough while sitting here.
20:39Sir, the problem is…
20:40Okay.
20:41You can cough now.
20:42See, you coughed and coughed.
20:43The problem is, you should not cough where you should not.
20:46The problem is…
20:47No, I stopped.
20:48May God ask you.
20:51The question is…
20:52I am asking again and again
20:53because there are so many rooms in the assembly.
20:55It is not possible that they break every room
20:57and go ahead.
20:58It is not possible.
20:59Sir, they had people with the keys.
21:01With them.
21:02Okay, they had people with the keys.
21:03Yes.
21:04So, that means the staff of the parliament was with them.
21:05I told you.
21:06I told you.
21:07You are saying that the staff of the parliament was with them.
21:09I told you in my speech.
21:10I told you in my speech.
21:11It is not necessary that I met them.
21:12It is possible.
21:13The MNAs who became helpless,
21:14the staff was not a poor man.
21:16I told you in my speech.
21:17Sir, I told you in my speech.
21:18I told the speaker in my speech
21:20that why did you suspend those poor people?
21:22Don't do it.
21:23What is their fault?
21:24You could not open the room for us.
21:26You could not open it.
21:27You could not stand up.
21:28You could not stand up.
21:29What is the fault of those poor people?
21:30And I generally think that
21:32those who were suspended were wrong.
21:34Those who have to remove their masks,
21:38remove them.
21:39Then the police,
21:40those who handed over to us from outside,
21:43those who took over,
21:44catch them.
21:45Take out the CCTV footage.
21:47Why did they go inside?
21:48How did they go inside?
21:49Who was the one who turned off the electricity?
21:51There is no load shedding in the parliament, Mr. Kashyap.
21:54There is, sir.
21:55You have seen it yourself.
21:57What are you saying?
21:58I saw it with my own eyes.
22:00There was no load shedding.
22:02You have seen it with your own eyes.
22:05You have seen it with your own eyes.
22:07You are sure.
22:08You should be sure that there was no load shedding.
22:10It was a dark day for the democracy,
22:11for the parliament.
22:12It should not have happened.
22:13Tell me before the break.
22:1422nd, Lahore.
22:15There will be a Jalsa.
22:16Because this Jalsa that you did on 8th September,
22:18these were the aftershocks of that.
22:20In which there were news about your CM,
22:23that he is missing.
22:24You people entered the assembly.
22:25CM was in a meeting.
22:26These were the news.
22:27Yes.
22:28I did not say that.
22:29Yes.
22:30What are you saying?
22:31I am not saying that.
22:32Okay, let's go.
22:33What are you doing?
22:34No, let's go.
22:35I am saying that there were news.
22:36Their own translators,
22:37or some people were saying that
22:38there was no contact.
22:39There was no contact.
22:40People entered your assembly.
22:41Sometimes when I come to meet your friends,
22:43I also turn off my phone.
22:44What is this?
22:45You are good.
22:46Yes, I am good.
22:49Sir, so...
22:51When I don't want to be disturbed,
22:53I will switch off my phone.
22:54After such a day,
22:55you are going to do the Jalsa again in Lahore?
22:57Sir, we are going to do it.
22:58I think that is our right.
23:01And according to that right,
23:02we should get permission for the Jalsa.
23:05We are in the court.
23:06We will not give you permission.
23:07No, Jalsa...
23:08I am telling you,
23:09we will not give you permission.
23:10Sir, for us,
23:11Imran Khan's order is a precedent.
23:13He has decided about the Jalsa.
23:15We will go.
23:16Now, the government is telling you
23:18that you don't have permission for the Jalsa.
23:20Which government is saying this?
23:21The one who got us arrested?
23:23Government...
23:24There is a government.
23:25Yes, they said so.
23:26Government, government...
23:27They said so.
23:28Who is the government?
23:29You will know.
23:30They said so.
23:31Yes, they said so.
23:32So, government, government...
23:33Look, they are fools.
23:34I think that
23:35the things that are stopped,
23:38that are blocked,
23:39their stature also increases,
23:40their hype also increases.
23:41Sir, you are talking about logic.
23:42Yes.
23:43I am saying that
23:44there is an order that
23:45no, Jalsa will not happen.
23:47We also got an order from Diyala.
23:49It will happen.
23:52The order is coming from within the jail.
23:55That is a precedent for us.
23:57Yes.
23:58That is a precedent for us.
23:59That is the order for you.
24:00That is the order for us.
24:01That means,
24:02there will be fighting on the streets.
24:04God forbid, sir.
24:05But this will happen.
24:06When you say that
24:07we have to do Jalsa,
24:08they will say no.
24:09Sir, you are my brother.
24:10Look,
24:11the Jalsa that took place in Islamabad,
24:13there was a crowd of thousands of people.
24:14There was no fight.
24:15There was no fight.
24:16They had to write a film,
24:17they had to write a script.
24:18Nothing happened on the spot.
24:19There were police,
24:20there were forces,
24:21and still there was no fight.
24:23Then why do we,
24:24why should we assume
24:25that there will be a fight there?
24:26I think that sanity will prevail.
24:28And the people who are the well-wishers of this country,
24:30they should understand that
24:32the people who have won 17 seats
24:34and have become the Prime Minister
24:36and the Prime Minister of this country,
24:38who have been made to sit,
24:41don't fulfill all their wishes.
24:43While fulfilling their wishes,
24:45your respect in the hearts of the people
24:47will decrease.
24:48Don't do that.
24:49Okay.
24:50Can I take a break?
24:51Yes.
24:52Let's take a break, viewers.
24:53An arrangement is going to be made,
24:54or an attempt is being made.
24:56The one that didn't happen yesterday?
24:57It happened.
24:58It will happen in the future as well.
24:59Sir, you are saying that
25:00it will happen tomorrow,
25:01it will happen tomorrow.
25:02You have become old.
25:03Your hair has turned white.
25:05We cancelled a Jalsa one day
25:07and did it after 8 days.
25:08You ruined it all.
25:09Now that such a big arrangement
25:10has been made,
25:11do something about it.
25:13We are looking at them with great respect
25:15that it is good that such an arrangement
25:17has not been made.
25:18Alhamdulillah.
25:19Because of which the country's system
25:21or its institutions will be ruined.
25:23Against which there is so much resentment.
25:25Look, it took so long
25:26for you to make the 18th arrangement.
25:27That's right, sir.
25:28You negotiated,
25:29you discussed,
25:30you on-boarded everyone.
25:31Months, months.
25:32Why not?
25:33Why didn't you do it here
25:34on the last day of the night,
25:35on the day of the ceremony,
25:37you closed everything
25:38and without showing the draft
25:39to anyone,
25:40you had to make this arrangement.
25:42This is beyond my understanding.
25:44I am incapable of understanding this.
25:46What kind of lawmakers are these?
25:48What kind of MNAs are these?
25:49Whose work is only legislation,
25:51but they have even given the draft
25:53of doing legislation.
25:54This was taken by the Santali.
25:55No, the rest also came.
25:57When you see, listen to me.
25:58There was a Peacock party.
25:59Remove the star.
26:00Remove the star.
26:01I have shown the MQM.
26:02No, no, the MQM people,
26:03what do you think?
26:04They have won.
26:05Remove the star.
26:06Remove all the stars.
26:07Remove all the stars.
26:08Take a break.
26:09Let's take a break, viewers.
26:10We will come back after the break.
26:14Welcome back, viewers.
26:15With us is Asnad Malik.
26:16He is present in the Supreme Court.
26:17What is happening inside, brother?
26:19A whole season is coming.
26:21I heard that Khai Sahib said
26:23in a TV program yesterday
26:24that we have discussed
26:25the matter of June with the army.
26:27Has anyone contacted the Supreme Court
26:29that we are going to do this,
26:30a court will be made,
26:31it will be constitutional,
26:32and this amendment,
26:33is this amendment being done
26:35for Qazi Faiz Isha Sahib?
26:37No, I think…
26:38What is the sense of the court?
26:40This anticipation was there from the beginning.
26:43The decision of July 12th,
26:44I think this was one of the reasons.
26:47They knew.
26:48And this draft,
26:49the initial draft,
26:50was made during Umar Atta Banjad Sahib's time.
26:52And the main thing is that
26:54the powers in the judiciary,
26:56how to curtail this.
26:58And because in the past,
27:00we see that Muqtadar Alqa
27:02and our courts have been on one page,
27:04so the powers of the parliament were encroached,
27:06the powers of the executive were encroached.
27:08It was the era of Iftikhar Chaudhary and Saqib Nafi.
27:10In the era of Iftikhar Chaudhary,
27:11there was no collusion.
27:12He himself became a power centre.
27:15Sometimes there is a collusion,
27:17sometimes it happens that
27:18if there was a power vacuum,
27:19the Supreme Court would have covered it.
27:21No, no,
27:22it became a powerful institution.
27:24Very powerful, absolutely.
27:25In that matter.
27:26And yesterday,
27:27I was talking to the Noon League people
27:29that this judiciary
27:31has encroached a lot on power.
27:33Most of all,
27:34Khwaja Asif used to sit in the Supreme Court.
27:36The case of rental power,
27:37and many other cases,
27:38many appointments.
27:39Memo of 8,
27:40Mian sir himself went there.
27:41Absolutely.
27:42From 2009 to 2013,
27:43that was the time
27:44when you had to strengthen the parliament.
27:46Will the Noon League apologize for that?
27:48And I think that the People's Party
27:50is also in the same situation.
27:52Now the problem is that
27:53the judiciary
27:54does not want to run agenda driven.
27:56Either it happens that
27:57the judiciary is pro-beaten,
27:59or pro-Noon,
28:00or pro-establishment.
28:01These 6 judges have written a letter.
28:03If you come,
28:04you will know.
28:05I am sorry,
28:06we always hear that
28:07this judge is a revolutionary judge.
28:09He will fix everything.
28:10No, no,
28:11but Kashif bhai,
28:12how long have you been watching?
28:14The 6 judges of the Islamabad High Court
28:16have written a letter.
28:17Which of those judges
28:18do you think
28:19has an affiliation with the PDI?
28:20None.
28:21Whatever you see,
28:22like Babar Sattar,
28:23you can guess from this
28:24why they are being opposed.
28:26But you think
28:27what is the sense in the Supreme Court?
28:28I am asking because
28:29obviously,
28:30most of the things
28:31are about the Supreme Court
28:32and the authority
28:33of the courts of this country.
28:35What is being thought there?
28:37Look,
28:38in the Supreme Court,
28:39there are two challenges
28:40to the majority judges.
28:41One is an internal challenge.
28:42They do not know
28:43what Chief Justice Qazi Faisal
28:44is thinking.
28:45Mujtadaat.
28:46Generally,
28:47we have seen that
28:48whenever
28:49the scenario principle
28:50has not been followed
28:51in the past,
28:52then a letter
28:53from Qazi Faisal
28:54would come.
28:55Today,
28:56it has been 4 days,
28:57the Supreme Court
28:58has called a full court meeting.
28:59So,
29:00Qazi Faisal's role
29:01is ahead.
29:02You are asking
29:03to end the powers
29:04of the Supreme Court
29:05in this matter.
29:06Absolutely.
29:07At least,
29:08a full court meeting
29:09should take place
29:10with your friends
29:11in the Supreme Court
29:12and discuss this matter
29:13because your Supreme Court
29:14is not available.
29:15There are so many judges
29:16in Pakistan,
29:17what should I do?
29:18No,
29:19look,
29:20all the judges are available.
29:21All are available?
29:22All are available.
29:23But,
29:24do they realize
29:25that when the Constitutional Court
29:26becomes a glorified
29:27session court,
29:28there will be cases
29:29of murder,
29:30robbery,
29:31arrest.
29:32It will remain
29:33as a session court.
29:34Absolutely.
29:35And,
29:36it seems that
29:37these judges
29:38will become OSB.
29:39And,
29:40the judges
29:41who will come
29:42after them
29:43will be retired
29:44and will be appointed
29:45by the government.
29:46So,
29:47you can use this
29:48as an excuse
29:49that
29:50when the government
29:51will appoint
29:52the independent
29:53judiciary,
29:54then what will be left?
29:55The judges
29:56will be in the majority
29:57in the Judicial Council.
29:58Apart from this,
29:59they will be in the majority
30:00in the Judicial Commission.
30:01And,
30:02the judges
30:03will be sent
30:04from one province
30:05to another.
30:06Oh,
30:07these are the judges
30:08of the High Court.
30:09Yes.
30:10I mean,
30:11the six judges
30:12who wrote the letters,
30:13if they get the power,
30:14all of them,
30:15first of all,
30:16these six judges
30:17will be tortured
30:18all over Pakistan.
30:19Look,
30:20this...
30:21Pakistan?
30:22Yes.
30:23Okay,
30:24I understand.
30:25Kashi bhai,
30:26this amendment
30:27was also there before.
30:28In the 18th amendment,
30:29it was omitted
30:30that you cannot
30:31send a judge
30:32without consent.
30:33Now,
30:34it has been put again.
30:35Tell me,
30:36what is the role
30:37of Muneer-e-Malik
30:38and many people
30:39are talking about
30:40a movement.
30:41Yes.
30:42I heard,
30:43he said yesterday
30:44that,
30:45I was in my program
30:46and we were talking
30:47and he said
30:48that Qazi Faisal
30:49will be with us
30:50if we
30:51run this movement.
30:52I think
30:53that
30:54Qazi Faisal
30:55should isolate himself
30:56from the current situation
30:57and the information
30:58is that
30:5916 retired judges
31:00have also contacted him.
31:01Qazi sir?
31:02No,
31:03Muneer-e-Malik sir.
31:04That we should
31:05go to petition,
31:06we should pre-empt.
31:07There are such examples
31:08in the past
31:09that before extra constitutional
31:10steps,
31:11Supreme Court
31:12has passed
31:13an order
31:14for restraining.
31:15So,
31:16when this...
31:17It was passed in practice
31:18and procedure.
31:19Now,
31:20look,
31:21what is the situation
31:22now?
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