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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Senator Faisal Vawda (Senior Leader)
- Zain Qureshi PTI
- Rana Ihsaan Afzal Khan PMLN
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
"Ye log PTI ko esi Jagah Par le aye kay party...." Faisal Vawda's Shocking Revelations
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Huge Statement Regarding Nawaz Sharif
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Senator Faisal Vawda (Senior Leader)
- Zain Qureshi PTI
- Rana Ihsaan Afzal Khan PMLN
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
"Ye log PTI ko esi Jagah Par le aye kay party...." Faisal Vawda's Shocking Revelations
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi's Huge Statement Regarding Nawaz Sharif
Follow the ARY News channel on WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/46e5HzY
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ARY News is a leading Pakistani news channel that promises to bring you factual and timely international stories and stories about Pakistan, sports, entertainment, and business, amid others.
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:11In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
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00:16In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:17In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:18In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
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00:21In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:22In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:23In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:24In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:25In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:26In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
00:27In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
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01:44In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
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03:14In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
03:44In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Assalamualaikum.
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15:32of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf, Rana Ehsaan Afzal Khan Sahib, the coordinator of the Prime Minister
15:38of Pakistan, is with us.
15:40Thank you very much for both of you.
15:42I would like to ask you a question without any further introduction.
15:46Rana Sahib, thank you very much.
15:48I would like to ask you a question.
15:50Obviously, your statement is very important.
15:52You are the coordinator of the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
15:54Is this being discussed anywhere?
15:56In your personal opinion, should this be discussed in the context of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf's
16:00visit to China?
16:02Our guest was talking about this in the last segment.
16:04In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
16:06Look, this is a very sad kind of tweet that has been made by their official handles.
16:12And if you look at their history, of this Jamaat,
16:16by lifting the bill,
16:18by starting the movement of disobedience,
16:20that there will be a referendum,
16:22an attack on PTV,
16:24an attack on the assembly,
16:26delaying the visit of the President of China,
16:28the way this project was launched,
16:30and when they came to power,
16:32they rejected the democratic norm of engaging the opposition.
16:36They did not engage their coalition partners.
16:38When their government was removed from power,
16:40they sowed the seeds of hatred.
16:42They did a polarization of politics.
16:44They challenged the state,
16:46that if they arrest me,
16:48I will launch a petrol bomb.
16:50If they arrest me,
16:52I will launch a bomb.
16:54If they arrest me,
16:56I will launch a petrol bomb.
16:58If they challenge me,
17:00I will raise slogans of Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq.
17:02And if my red line crosses,
17:04there will be incidents of 9th May.
17:06They wrote letters to the IMF,
17:08asking them not to give loans.
17:10They protested there.
17:12Their social media,
17:14overall,
17:16they attacked GSP Plus.
17:18Then, look,
17:20in Madinah,
17:22they had an agitationist politics,
17:24that when they protested in Madinah,
17:26they should not be condemned.
17:28Instead, they should say that
17:30wherever they go,
17:32they will get what they want.
17:34Overall, I think,
17:36it was a negative politics.
17:38You recently started talking about Twitter.
17:40In the last segment,
17:42the senator was saying that
17:44this is under discussion.
17:46Do you also think that
17:48this should or should not happen?
17:50Even after the incidents,
17:52there was a discussion
17:54that if the Jamaat instigates
17:56an attack on national institutes,
17:58and they have such planning,
18:00then they can be seen.
18:02But I don't know
18:04whether the government
18:06is pursuing this
18:08or going in this direction.
18:10Anyway,
18:12look, the things I told you...
18:14That is all a part of the record.
18:16Mr. Zain Qureshi,
18:18we were expecting this.
18:20One case of Mr. Zain Qureshi
18:22was left unresolved.
18:24And before the verdict came,
18:26there were eight cases
18:28regarding 9th of May.
18:30Are you surprised
18:32or were you expecting this?
18:34In the name of God,
18:36thank you for inviting me to the program.
18:38Before coming to your question,
18:40I would like to ask you
18:42your last question.
18:44Sir, banning political parties
18:46is not a solution.
18:48And I said from day one
18:50that there is always a difference
18:52between the government's
18:54call and action.
18:56They are talking about
18:58reconciliation,
19:00but now they are saying
19:02that the one who did this
19:04can be thought about.
19:06Sir, I don't believe in
19:08the politics of
19:10tit-for-tat,
19:12and Mr. Rana is my brother,
19:14and I don't agree with that.
19:16In my opinion,
19:18if we really call ourselves
19:20democratic,
19:22and if we really
19:24believe in democracy,
19:26then we should be able
19:28to do this.
19:30I don't agree with that.
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24:52Government doesn't do politics.
24:54Government does governance.
24:56Where we are in government,
24:58we will do governance.
25:00We will deliver.
25:02We are reducing the country's
25:04inflation.
25:06Stock market indicators are
25:08excellent.
25:10IMF has a positive vibe.
25:12FDI has a positive vibe.
25:14This is our politics.
25:16Our politics is delivery.
25:18Our politics is
25:20delivery.
25:22Our politics is delivery.
25:24Our politics is delivery.
25:36Now,
25:38Now,
25:40Now,
25:42Now,
25:44Now,
25:46Now,
25:48Is my voice audible, Mr. Qureshi?
25:50Sir, it is audible.
25:52Let me conclude.
25:54Mr. Parvez has come out.
25:56Everyone knows that he is not
25:58active in PTI in that way.
26:00Despite being the President,
26:02he does not play an active role
26:04in PTI's streets and politics.
26:06He is more symbolic.
26:08Mr. Qureshi does this.
26:10Everyone knows that he speaks
26:12with an open heart.
26:14His not coming out is an indicator
26:16that the matter is not going
26:18in that direction.
26:20The matter is still bad.
26:22Sir, if he is coming out
26:24under a deal,
26:26then this could have been discussed.
26:28The entire case that we have
26:30been working on,
26:32for the past 4-4.5 months,
26:34we have been working on the case
26:36in the High Court,
26:38and the case is reaching its conclusion.
26:40I spoke to Day One.
26:42There was nothing in the Cypher case
26:44that could have been discussed.
26:46Now, when the case was about to open,
26:48he declared a national holiday.
26:50Now, Mr. Rana is saying that
26:52if he had not declared a national holiday,
26:54would this decision not have come later?
26:56This shows the intention.
26:58What is your intention with this case?
27:00If the decision of the case was coming,
27:02then let it come.
27:04It will come day after tomorrow.
27:06Now, what was the point of
27:08arresting Shah Mehmood Qureshi
27:10in the 8th, 9th cases?
27:12Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
27:14in which the government had said
27:16that we don't want him,
27:18in those cases,
27:20they put him in supplementary cases
27:22and then arrested him.
27:24The basic reason is that
27:26they also know that
27:28this is a trap to keep them
27:30out of the country.
27:32Now, the interesting thing is
27:34that Mr. Rana is saying
27:36that the government does not
27:38do politics, it does delivery.
27:40The Prime Minister of Pakistan,
27:42whose daughter is the Prime Minister
27:44of the biggest department,
27:46they give their vision,
27:48they give their policy,
27:50they tell how their government
27:52will go ahead and get Pakistan
27:54out of this crisis.
27:56But they have only done politics.
27:58The entire speech of Mian Nawaz Sharif
28:00was only for Imran Khan.
28:02They will say that it was a party event.
28:04Final word, Mr. Rana.
28:06We have given the vision in the manifesto.
28:08Please, Mr. Rana,
28:10teach the manifesto to Mian Nawaz Sharif.
28:12Mian Nawaz Sharif says that
28:14we did not have Kashkol in our hands.
28:16From 2013 to 2017,
28:18only 35 billion dollar loan
28:20was taken by the government
28:22of Muslim Noon.
28:24There is a difference.
28:26There was no bilateral debt in 2013-18.
28:28This rollover and borrowing
28:30happened in the era of PTI.
28:32When you went from Saudi Arabia
28:34and collected money.
28:36I will tell you that
28:38our debt has increased
28:40because of your payments.
28:42We will get enough time
28:44for this kind of conversation.
28:46You are saying that
28:48inflation is decreasing in the country.
28:50With which indicators
28:52is inflation decreasing in the country?
28:54Please tell us.
28:56The indicators that you are reading
28:58and seeing, show them to the nation.
29:00Because the nation is going under
29:02the burden of electricity, gas,
29:04fuel and water.
29:06Thank you both.
29:08Nawaz Sharif has become
29:10the president of Noon League.
29:12He has reminded his friend,
29:14Shahid Khakhan Abbasi.
29:16He will be with us after the break.
29:26Welcome.
29:28Shahid Khakhan Abbasi is with us.
29:30Huzoor, Assalamu Alaikum.
29:32Walaikum Assalam.
29:34Thank you very much for your time, sir.
29:36Noon League was a great event.
29:38Mr. Mian became the president again.
29:40Did you get the invitation?
29:42No, there are no invitations.
29:44The office holders go.
29:46I am not an office holder.
29:48All the office holders were present.
29:52General Council members go.
29:54I am not a General Council member.
29:56You are not an office holder.
29:58You do not have a Jamaat.
30:00I am a political worker.
30:02This is my position.
30:04When I am talking to you today,
30:06you do not have a political Jamaat.
30:10No, we are working on a Jamaat.
30:12Inshallah.
30:14It will be launched in the next 2-3 weeks.
30:16But Noon League is not your Jamaat.
30:20I have not fought an election
30:22from Noon League.
30:24I have not attended a meeting
30:26for the last 1.5 years.
30:28Is this a formality?
30:30No.
30:32Jamaats are not formally established.
30:34You do not even join them formally.
30:36I have been a Muslim since 1985.
30:42I have been a Muslim since then.
30:44But you are thankful to Nawaz Sharif
30:46that even though you have different political views,
30:48he made a separate mention of you.
30:50No, it is his greatness.
30:52It is his kindness.
30:54We have a long relationship.
30:56More than 35 years.
30:58It is a lifelong relationship.
31:00It is my great desire
31:02and hope that
31:04this personal relationship will be maintained.
31:08He did the right thing.
31:10What happened today should have happened.
31:12He was removed from the administration
31:14due to a decision.
31:16Now the situation has changed.
31:18He has taken over the administration again.
31:20This is his Jamaat's decision.
31:22It is his own decision.
31:24He can run the administration in a better way.
31:26The Muslim League workers and voters
31:28still identify with them.
31:32Do you also think that
31:34it would have been better
31:36if he had taken over the administration?
31:38This is his own decision.
31:40Whether or not he gives
31:42health permits.
31:44Can he give time?
31:46Can he face today's challenges?
31:50The Jamaats internally decide
31:52who will be the Prime Minister.
31:54You are a political worker.
31:56What is your political view?
31:58What do you think?
32:00Would it have been better
32:02if he had taken over the administration?
32:04It is his decision.
32:06It is his party's decision.
32:08Would it have been better
32:10if he had taken over the administration?
32:12If he had given health permits,
32:14it would have been better
32:16for the country and the Jamaat.
32:18Do you think
32:20Nawaz Sharif should go to Imran Khan
32:22and apologize to him
32:24and ask him to forgive him?
32:26Is it possible?
32:28Should Nawaz Sharif take such a step?
32:30Someone should take a step.
32:32You have to end today's
32:34insults.
32:36You have to end
32:38the corruption in the country.
32:40You have to end the corruption
32:42in the country.
32:44You have to end the corruption
32:46in the country.
32:48The conflict between the politicians
32:50has turned into hatred
32:52and enmity.
32:54Someone has to try
32:56to end this.
32:58I think Mr. Nawaz Sharif
33:00is the oldest politician
33:02in this country.
33:04He is the most experienced.
33:06If he takes such a step
33:08and there is a response
33:10it will be better.
33:12I always say that
33:14you need a consensus
33:16consisting of 4-5
33:18political leaders
33:20and the leaders of the judiciary
33:22and the military.
33:24These are the stakeholders
33:26in politics.
33:28These are the leaders.
33:30If they sit down,
33:32things will move forward.
33:34If Mr. Mian takes this initiative,
33:36it will be very good.
33:38But what you are suggesting
33:40is exactly the opposite.
33:42The situation of the judiciary
33:44and the establishment
33:46is not as tense as it is today.
33:48What will happen if the tension
33:50increases?
33:52You have to end
33:54this tension.
33:56Nothing will move forward.
33:58There is tension
34:00in the military,
34:02in the politicians,
34:04in the judiciary and the politicians.
34:06There is tension everywhere.
34:08We cannot control the tension.
34:10Especially where we are standing today,
34:12the economic situation
34:14and the political situation
34:16can only be solved by sitting down.
34:18There is no other way.
34:20Your economy,
34:22petroleum, everything is in deep view.
34:24Next week is the budget.
34:26We will talk in detail about the economy
34:28in the coming days.
34:30Do you think that the worst
34:32is over at least?
34:34It is not that there will be
34:36a flood of milk and honey.
34:38Is that the case?
35:08You will have to make
35:10very difficult decisions.
35:12If you don't make these decisions today,
35:14you will have to make
35:16even more difficult decisions tomorrow.
35:38The final decision was of Mian Nawaz Sharif.
35:40He should have been the one
35:42to make the decision.
35:44The rest of the people are talking
35:46wrongly.
35:48I was present at the discussion.
35:50I am a witness.
35:52This is history.
35:54We always say that
35:56the Prime Minister
35:58does not work and does not make decisions.
36:00The decisions he makes
36:02should be credited to him.
36:04Do you remember the telephone call
36:06between the Prime Minister
36:08and Mian Nawaz Sharif?
36:10No, I am not his witness.
36:12There were three people
36:14sitting there.
36:16They told me
36:18how Clinton spoke
36:20and how long the meeting lasted.
36:22A very serious offer
36:24was made to Pakistan
36:26which we did not accept.
36:28Gohar Ayyub says
36:30that Shahbaz Sharif came to me
36:32and said that he is talking to Clinton.
36:34If he gives us a good package,
36:36we will not bomb it.
36:38Is that correct, factually?
36:42Gohar Ayyub has passed away.
36:44Shahbaz Sharif is alive.
36:46He can deny it.
36:48But I do not think
36:50that such a thing has happened.
36:52It was not possible.
36:54Mian Nawaz Sharif was very clear
36:56from the first day.
36:58Do you want to answer?
37:00I do not want to answer.
37:02I wanted to make a decision
37:04and it was a decision of the Prime Minister.
37:06There was a discussion
37:08when the press was called.
37:10What did Mr. Nizami say?
37:12What did Mr. Nizami say?
37:14That was also a very wrong
37:16perspective.
37:18He was present at that meeting.
37:20I was sitting
37:22next to Mr. Mian.
37:24Mr. Nizami was sitting in front.
37:26He said something
37:28very serious in Punjabi.
37:30Mr. Mian was taking
37:32advice from everyone.
37:34He was saying that
37:36we will have to do it.
37:38He was saying that there will be
37:40a lot of pressure.
37:42We can do it later.
37:44There were 20-30 people
37:46who were giving advice.
37:48Mr. Nizami said in Punjabi
37:50that Mr. Mian,
37:52you will have to do it.
37:54It has been a long time.
37:56Mr. Nizami is no longer
37:58a politician.
38:00We were all very worried.
38:02He said that you will have to
38:04do it.
38:06If you do not do it,
38:08the people of Pakistan
38:10will hit you with shoes.
38:12If you do it,
38:14the world will hit you with shoes.
38:16He said that I think
38:18it would be better
38:20if the people of Pakistan
38:22avoid the shoes of the people.
38:24It was not that Mr. Mian
38:26did not want to do it.
38:28Mr. Nizami was saying that
38:30you have to do it or you will
38:32be hit with shoes.
38:34This was a part of the opinion.
38:36All this time,
38:38especially the meeting,
38:40I have never heard
38:42from Mr. Mian
38:44that we should not do it.
38:46He always knew that
38:48we should do it.
38:50But he was giving advice
38:52to everyone.
38:54Mr. Shahid, please listen to this.
38:56Did Nawaz Sharif
38:58make this decision?
39:00Did he do it out of fear
39:02of public reaction?
39:04Or did he do it
39:06out of fear of the army?
39:08Or was he determined
39:10that he would do it
39:12without fear?
39:14He was not determined.
39:16We were worried.
39:18I will not exaggerate.
39:20I was very worried.
39:22If you say that
39:24I had a big role
39:26in this decision,
39:28then you will have to send me.
39:30Because later,
39:32journalists were called
39:34and they tried to
39:36somehow prepare
39:38some journalists.
39:40Somehow,
39:42I don't know what it was,
39:44they will say that
39:46it is not necessary,
39:48we have the power.
39:50But Mr. Nizami
39:52strongly rejected it
39:54and said that we should not do it.
39:56If you don't do it,
39:58you will also be destroyed.
40:00Dr. A.Q. Khan is also
40:02quoting Mr. Nizami.
40:06Dr. A.Q. Khan,
40:08I respect him a lot.
40:10He is a very old friend of mine.
40:14Now he is not here,
40:16so there is no need to
40:18but I do not agree with
40:20what he says.
40:22I said earlier that
40:24from the first day itself,
40:26Mr. Nizami was very clear
40:28that we have to do this.
40:30I think Mr. Saeed Mehdi
40:32will be able to testify.
40:34He knows the whole matter.
40:36And the army chief
40:38at that time was also
40:40an outsider.
40:42You can also consult him.
40:44But this decision is
40:46up to him.
40:48No one can force him to make a decision.
40:50I don't think it was
40:52a matter of force.
40:54And the opinion of the army chief
40:56at that time was that it should be done.
40:58Was he also convinced like Mr. Nawaz Sharif?
41:02I had nothing to do with him.
41:06I have heard some things,
41:08but those things
41:10are through the third party,
41:12so it will not be appropriate to say.
41:14He will himself state
41:16what he thought or did not think.
41:18Didn't it happen that when
41:20Mr. Mian expressed his opinion
41:22that we are going to do it or
41:24we should do it,
41:26there was some opposition from there?
41:28We have never heard such a thing.
41:30No, no, no.
41:32I don't think such a thing
41:34has ever happened.
41:36Nor should it have happened.
41:38I have not heard such a thing.
41:40Will you congratulate your
41:42husband again?
41:44Yes, Mr. Mian has again
41:46become the head of the Muslim League.
41:48And this was his rightful position.
41:50I hope he will work for the country.
41:52Congratulations to him.
41:54Thank you very much.