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00:00Sauna is a place to purify your mind and body.
00:07This program invites top runners from all over the world to the sauna
00:12and listens to their stories in a well-organized place.
00:18We approach the turning point of a guest's life at a well-organized moment.
00:25The hint that will make you happy may be in the sauna.
00:31NOM SULICA PRESENTS
00:33The God of Sauna by Savannah Takahashi
00:47I think this is my first time at a press tour.
00:49I feel like I'm on a business trip.
00:51Let's do it!
00:55Let me introduce today's guest.
00:58He's been a top wrestler for 100 years.
01:01He's also the CEO of New Japan Pro-Wrestling.
01:05Hiroshi Tanahashi.
01:07Nice to meet you.
01:10What do you think of the sauna?
01:12I like the sauna.
01:13It's not like a dojo.
01:15It's not like a dojo.
01:16It's a nice dojo.
01:18Liger is in charge of it.
01:20Liger has moved to his hometown.
01:22I see.
01:23Kuniaki Kobayashi is in charge of it.
01:25Kuniaki Kobayashi is in charge of it.
01:27I can't make a business deal with him.
01:31Hiroshi Tanahashi is the guest of the sauna.
01:38He debuted at New Japan Pro-Wrestling at the age of 22 in 1999.
01:45In 2006, he became the IWGP Heavyweight Champion.
01:52He has a gorgeous costume and hairstyle.
01:57He has a lot of female fans.
02:00He is the most popular wrestler in Heisei.
02:05He was a professional wrestler last year.
02:08He is also the CEO of New Japan Pro-Wrestling.
02:11He works hard every day to make pro-wrestling more popular.
02:16I have to say this every time.
02:18I hate both work and business.
02:22My name is Hiroshi Tanahashi.
02:24I hate both work and business.
02:28I want to know what Mr. Tanahashi thinks as a CEO.
02:31I want to know what Mr. Tanahashi thinks as a CEO.
02:35I want to know what Mr. Tanahashi thinks as a CEO.
02:40We went to the same university for a year.
02:45We went to the same university for a year.
02:49Where was he?
02:52I want to know how he became a pro-wrestler.
02:58Finland is a country of happiness.
03:00Finland is a country of happiness.
03:05There is a saying in the sauna in this country.
03:14The important thing is decided in the sauna, not in the conference room.
03:20Finns solve their problems in the sauna.
03:24Finns solve their problems in the sauna.
03:30In the sauna, there may be a god who leads people to happiness.
03:39Let's drink.
03:46It's good.
03:52It suits you.
03:56Let's drink.
03:58Please come in.
04:01You are big.
04:08It's a real name.
04:11I've seen you on the campus.
04:15You were famous.
04:17I was making my debut.
04:21There was a ring and a stage next to it.
04:25Mr. Takase and his friends were in the ring.
04:32Did you live alone in Kyoto?
04:34I lived alone.
04:36I rented a room at the intersection.
04:39How heavy were you?
04:42I was 68kg when I was in the first year of college.
04:45How much do you weigh now?
04:49I'm about 112kg now.
04:52When I was a student, I could eat a meal for 500 yen.
04:56I ate 1000 yen for every meal.
04:59I ate a bowl of rice, a meal, and a tuna can.
05:04I had about 100,000 yen in my allowance.
05:09I ate half of it in a month.
05:12I also worked part-time to earn a living.
05:15What did you do?
05:17I was a voice actor.
05:20When there were few customers in the afternoon, I practiced.
05:24I was a voice actor.
05:26You're not good at work.
05:29I'm not good at work.
05:31I'm not good at speaking.
05:33Why do professional wrestlers have a hard time speaking?
05:37Tenryu, Choshu, and Fujinami are famous.
05:43Professional wrestlers are kind.
05:45I don't know what you're talking about.
05:52I will introduce my recommended sauna goods.
05:56This is a sauna hat.
05:58This is a product of Luftha, a Finnish apparel brand founded in 1907.
06:09It's waffle-shaped and gentle.
06:13It protects your head from the heat.
06:16I've heard that hair protects your head from the heat.
06:21I want you to wear a sauna hat.
06:25From now on, the two of us will sweat to our heart's content.
06:31A special space unique to the sauna.
06:35The distance between us is getting shorter.
06:39What are we talking about?
06:52It's hot.
06:53It's a sauna.
06:55It's amazing.
06:58It's amazing.
07:00It's amazing.
07:03Let's go.
07:19Professional wrestlers have a lot of pain.
07:23Professional wrestlers have a lot of pain.
07:28It's like, I can't hear your voice.
07:30So, even if it's cold, I endure it.
07:34That's the beauty of being a professional wrestler.
07:40This is a product of Luftha.
07:43It's a product of Luftha, a Finnish apparel brand founded in 1907.
07:47It's a product of Luftha, a Finnish apparel brand founded in 1907.
07:51It's a product of Luftha, a Finnish apparel brand founded in 1907.
07:56After sauna routine, please drink this.
07:59This is a natural mineral water made from a natural mineral water collected in the Kirishima Renzan in Miyazaki Prefecture.
08:06It can be used for cooking and cooking.
08:10I'll drink it.
08:14It's delicious.
08:16It's cold.
08:22Do you have any health problems?
08:24I have short sleep.
08:27I sleep for about 4 hours.
08:28Can't you sleep?
08:30I wake up before I sleep.
08:32I sleep at 12 o'clock and wake up at 4 or 5 o'clock.
08:34I've never been tired.
08:39I've never been tired since I was born.
08:41When Okada came to the Tokyo Dome, he said,
08:44Thank you for your hard work, Mr. Tanahashi.
08:46Your era is over.
08:47I said it every time.
08:48But, Okada said,
08:50Thank you for your hard work.
08:51Your era is over.
08:53Normally, your era is over.
08:55I don't understand what he said.
08:57But, he said, Thank you for your hard work.
09:00Sorry, Okada.
09:01I've never been tired since I was born.
09:05I said it in front of everyone at the Tokyo Dome.
09:09I've never been tired.
09:11I've never been tired.
09:14When his mind and body are in good condition, he talks about his true feelings.
09:19The moment when Mr. Tanahashi's life is in good condition.
09:23We'll ask him about the turning point of his life.
09:27I was told, Hey, Tanahashi, don't break the pro-wrestling.
09:30It came to me.
09:33This time, we're going to ask Mr. Tanahashi about the five things he's curious about.
09:38I'll ask you five questions.
09:40Please answer them.
09:42I'll dig deeper.
09:45The first question.
09:46What's the most expensive thing you've bought recently?
09:50A watch.
09:51The second question.
09:53What kind of mania do you have?
09:55I'm a supplement mania.
09:57The third question.
09:58What's the most irritating thing you've done recently?
10:00Sweets that others eat.
10:03Sweets.
10:05The fourth question.
10:06When do you feel happy?
10:08When I spend time with my family.
10:11The fifth question.
10:12What's your dream now?
10:13I want to build an Inoki Arena.
10:16I asked you five questions.
10:18The first question.
10:19What's the most expensive thing you've bought recently?
10:20A watch.
10:21When an important match is over, I want to buy a watch.
10:23I bought about 300,000 yen this time.
10:26It's been a year since I bought it.
10:28I see.
10:29What kind of watch is it?
10:30It's a brand called SINN.
10:35Do you like shopping?
10:37I like shopping.
10:39There are clothing stores all over Japan.
10:42When I go there, there is a clothing store that I go to.
10:46Is there?
10:48Don't you think it's okay to be naked?
10:51I also like sneakers.
10:52Sneakers?
10:53I always buy them.
10:55I always buy them.
10:56I have one pair of shoes in Jungyo.
10:59I bought two or three pairs of shoes.
11:01I came back to Tokyo.
11:03How many times do you go to Jungyo?
11:07I play 150 games a year.
11:10It's amazing.
11:11I come back to Tokyo every two weeks to a month.
11:16A new series has started.
11:18I have a lot of shoes at home.
11:20I don't have enough shoes at home.
11:23I have shoes in the dojo.
11:25But I have my own space.
11:27It's the president's watch.
11:30How many pairs of shoes do you have?
11:32I counted up to 60 pairs of shoes.
11:35Where do you go?
11:38I go to Osaka.
11:40I go to a beauty salon that I set up before the game.
11:45Do you go to beauty salons in different places?
11:47The day before the game, I searched for a beauty salon.
11:53Did you jump in?
11:55Yes, I did.
11:57I asked a man if he could set my hair.
12:03I was surprised.
12:05I wondered what he was doing.
12:07I asked him to make my hair wavy.
12:11When there is a title match, I go to work.
12:15It's like going to work.
12:18It's like a cabaret show.
12:20I make my hair wavy.
12:24It's important to enter the stadium.
12:27If you wear a different hairstyle than usual, the game will be special.
12:32The audience will think that this is a different game than usual.
12:36The audience will think that you are excited.
12:39Instead, if there is a game, it will be a mess.
12:42The second question.
12:44Supplement mania.
12:46I was the one who introduced protein and supplement culture to New Japan Produce.
12:51I was 90kg when I joined New Japan Produce.
12:53I gained 12kg in six months after my debut.
12:56I was the only one who gained weight.
12:58I took protein, vitamins, and creatine during meals.
13:05I also gained strength.
13:09After I joined New Japan Produce, the players started to use supplements.
13:17Who is the same age as you when you joined New Japan Produce?
13:21I think it's Mr. Makabe.
13:23My debut match was against Mr. Makabe.
13:27I was told that the chain I was wearing was light.
13:33I was told that my debut match was against Mr. Makabe.
13:38I was sleeping next to Mr. Makabe in the same room.
13:43I was conscious of Mr. Makabe because he was my debut opponent.
13:48It was natural that Mr. Makabe made his debut.
13:50It's a strange feeling.
13:52I'm glad I didn't put anything in my drink.
13:56The third question.
13:57Do you want to eat sweets that others eat?
14:03When I joined New Japan Produce, there was a time when I couldn't play for about four months.
14:09At that time, I gained a lot of weight.
14:11I gained about 10kg.
14:14Who told you that you were fat?
14:17The net was noisy.
14:19Tanahashi's body is strange.
14:21It's like Tanahashi's belly.
14:25Mr. Makabe also gave me sweets.
14:27When I went to the local venue, Mr. Makabe gave me a lot of sweets.
14:30Do you eat sweets?
14:32I eat sweets.
14:35But you can't stand it.
14:37I can't eat sweets at night.
14:39I put sweets in my bag and eat them in the morning.
14:41It's important to have that kind of attitude.
14:44To get something, you have to lose something.
14:51The fourth question.
14:52When do you feel happy?
14:54When I'm with my family.
14:55How many children do you have?
14:57I have a daughter and a son.
14:59I'm a third-year college student and a first-year college student.
15:02Do you have such a big child?
15:04We are good friends.
15:06The other day, I went to eat sweets with my daughter.
15:09You can't stand sweets.
15:11I thought it would be nice to eat sweets with my daughter.
15:14I also want to buy sweets.
15:16I bought a lot of cosmetics at a cosmetics store in Takashimaya.
15:23I'm fine with anything.
15:26That's cute.
15:28I'm doing entertainment activities now.
15:32I'm doing Korean dramas.
15:35I was on a quiz show the other day.
15:38I said on TV for the first time.
15:40My father is Bruce Lee.
15:44My father is very cute.
15:49What should I do if I bring my boyfriend?
15:53What should I do if I bring my boyfriend?
15:55If you bring your boyfriend, I'll kill you.
15:59My son is in a band these days.
16:01Is he in a band?
16:03My son said, I have a guitar I want.
16:05I said, is that so?
16:07He said, it's a tea water.
16:09I went to a musical instrument store and bought it for 35 yen.
16:13It's more expensive than my watch.
16:15When I was young, I was busy with competitions and promotions.
16:20I couldn't spend time with my father.
16:24I want to get it back.
16:26As a result, you bought a guitar and cosmetics.
16:30Did you like sports when you were young?
16:35I played baseball in elementary, middle, and high school.
16:37What made you want to be a professional wrestler?
16:40When I was a high school student, I studied hard.
16:44My brother happened to be watching a professional wrestling match.
16:47I wondered what he was watching.
16:49We started watching it together.
16:51My brother and I fell in love with professional wrestling.
16:54We played professional wrestling at home.
16:56The professional wrestling I saw on TV was big and strong.
17:00I've only played baseball.
17:02I didn't want to be a professional wrestler.
17:05Did you go to university?
17:08Yes, I went to Ritsumeikan University.
17:10It's the direction department of Ritsumeikan University.
17:13I can study.
17:16Did you want to be a professional wrestler when you went to university?
17:19The booth at the professional wrestling club was the most conspicuous.
17:23I was wearing a costume, wearing a mask, and going crazy.
17:28I liked professional wrestling.
17:30I asked the president if there was anyone who became a professional wrestler.
17:34He said there was.
17:36I thought I could become a professional wrestler if I joined the club.
17:41I was the first.
17:43Were you a professional wrestler?
17:45Yes, I was.
17:46What was your ring name?
17:48My ring name was Hame Hiroshi.
17:53Hame Hiroshi?
17:55My ring name was a little funny.
18:00Who was your rival?
18:03My rival was Unko Tenkomori.
18:10You didn't want to be a professional wrestler, did you?
18:12No, I didn't.
18:14I took the professional wrestling test when I was in the second year of college.
18:18But I didn't pass the test.
18:21I thought I would quit university if I passed the entrance test.
18:26Professional wrestlers should enter the university as soon as possible.
18:31So I took the entrance test when I was in the third year of college.
18:34I was going to quit university.
18:36Choshu, who was in charge of the entrance test, told me that I was in the third year of college.
18:43He told me to come back after I graduated.
18:45He said I might quit because I practiced hard.
18:48He was like a parent to me.
18:50Choshu also graduated from university.
18:54Did you have a hard time after you joined the club?
18:58I had a hard time, but the hardest thing was the booing.
19:03Why?
19:05I was hated by many people.
19:08I became the champion for the first time in 2006.
19:11New Japan Pro-Wrestling has a traditional style.
19:14The champion must be strong.
19:16Inoki, Choshu, Hashimoto, and Nagata, who are known as the strong style of Kurondo and Shota Itsuo.
19:24But I had a lot of hair.
19:27I had long hair.
19:29I had a lot of hair.
19:32I was hated by many people who supported New Japan Pro-Wrestling.
19:37I'm a good guy.
19:40There are times when the opponent is a bad guy.
19:43But I get booed.
19:45That's why I'm a bad guy.
19:49At that time, someone told me,
19:53Hey, Tanahashi, don't destroy pro-wrestling.
19:56I was depressed.
19:59You were depressed.
20:01I wasn't depressed.
20:03I was thinking a lot.
20:05I was depressed.
20:09I want to entertain many fans with pro-wrestling.
20:16However, as if to oppose such a thought,
20:20Anti-fan reaction
20:24He found a breakthrough in his depressed feelings.
20:29It was a positive thought that he couldn't give up.
20:37I was booed because my opponent was cheering for me.
20:41I thought it would be nice if the match itself was exciting just by turning the tables.
20:46I went to get more booing.
20:48At that time, I was called a bad guy.
20:52I was booed and flashy.
20:54I was very far from the true nature of New Japan Pro-Wrestling.
20:57I don't care if I'm hated.
20:59I just want New Japan Pro-Wrestling to get excited.
21:02How do you feel about the president and the players' jokes?
21:06I've been practicing and getting treatment.
21:12I'm leaving the company at 10 or 6 o'clock a month.
21:17I go to the gym after work and go home.
21:20Don't you run out of time?
21:22If I cut down on sleeping time, I won't get tired.
21:27I think I can do it because it's me.
21:29The reason why the president chose me is because I'm bright.
21:37The president chose me because I'm bright.
21:43Finally, your current dream is to build Inoki Arena.
21:48I want people who want to be a pro-wrestler to know that there is a wrestler called Antonio Inoki.
21:57Because you were there, New Japan Pro-Wrestling was born.
22:00Because New Japan Pro-Wrestling was born, I became a pro-wrestler.
22:04All the wrestlers except me are like that.
22:07I wanted to create an arena that expressed that feeling.
22:12How big is the arena?
22:14It's about 10,000 to 5,000 people.
22:17I want to make it a place where other genres and entertainment are exciting.
22:25I like interesting things like that.
22:29Do you have a belief that you will always try various things?
22:36This is a question from Bakumatsu.
22:43Do you have a belief that you will always try various things?
22:48I'm surprised.
22:50I'm surprised.
22:52I've never seen a scene like this before.
22:55Do you have a belief that you will always try various things?
22:58I don't think so.
23:01I think you have a strong belief that you will always try various things.
23:09I think you have a strong belief that you will always try various things.
23:14After this is the story of Hiroshi Tanahashi.
23:19I will take that idea as the president.
23:25Is there anything you haven't done yet?
23:29I want to make the broadcast of pro-wrestling a golden time.
23:40There are overwhelmingly more young people who have never seen pro-wrestling.
23:47But it's very important to have seen it.
23:51There is a possibility that they will like pro-wrestling.
23:54I want everyone to watch pro-wrestling on TV.
24:01I want to hold a tournament where people who see it for the first time can enjoy it.
24:07If there is a QR code, you can see the player's special move and profile.
24:18I will take that idea as the president.
24:22If Mr. Tanahashi smiles all the time, he will win.
24:28Thank you very much.
24:32I peed in the middle of the broadcast.
24:34I have never endured it.
24:36I have never endured it.
24:38Thank you very much.
24:53Next time, Sonar Pocket.
24:55Now it's a love song.
25:00I think this song is good.