THOUGHTCRIME Ep 52 Kamala the Chameleon Olympic Boxing StraightEdge Teenagers
THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 52 — Kamala the Chameleon? Olympic Boxing? Straight-Edge Teenagers?
In this week’s ThoughtCrime Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff discuss crucial questions like:
-What is the best strategy for exposing the Kamala Harris scam?
-Who should Republicans want the Democrat veep nominee to be?
-Far more kids today meet the definition of "straight-edge" — but is that a good thing?
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In this week’s ThoughtCrime Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff discuss crucial questions like:
-What is the best strategy for exposing the Kamala Harris scam?
-Who should Republicans want the Democrat veep nominee to be?
-Far more kids today meet the definition of "straight-edge" — but is that a good thing?
THOUGHTCRIME streams LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday night at 8pm ET.
Visit www.GetLiverHelp.com/Kirk to claim your FREE bonus gift!
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00:00:30From the age of Big Brother.
00:00:59If they want to get you, they'll get you.
00:01:01DNS specifically targets the communications of everyone.
00:01:05They're collecting your communications.
00:01:16Okay, everybody, it is ThoughtCrime Thursday.
00:01:19We are here with Blake.
00:01:21Do we have empty chair or Tyler?
00:01:23We've got an empty chair right now, but we can still ask questions to it.
00:01:26Hey, Tyler, how you doing?
00:01:27Should we just show the empty chair?
00:01:29There you go.
00:01:31That's great.
00:01:32And then the great news today, New York Times bestselling author Jack Posobiec.
00:01:37Jack, you have to now change your driver's license to New York Times bestselling author.
00:01:43It is now in your intro.
00:01:44It's in your bio.
00:01:45Jack, congratulations.
00:01:47That's a big deal.
00:01:48They'll never be able to take that away from you.
00:01:49You are in the 1% of the 1% of all authors.
00:01:53Tell us about how you were able to penetrate the New York Times Club.
00:01:58Well, Charlie, I appreciate that.
00:02:00And so, look, it's just a testament to the book on humans.
00:02:03Myself, Joshua Lysak, talking about the fact that we are going into and we are currently in and what we call an irregular communist revolution.
00:02:14And the fact of the content stands on its own.
00:02:16But, you know, really, I just have to thank so many people.
00:02:20J.D. Vance, of course, who blurbed the book.
00:02:23Tucker Carlson, who gave us a great platform.
00:02:25Donald Trump Jr., Lt. General Flynn, Robert Stacey McCain from The American Spectator.
00:02:30Charlie, you, of course, gave Joshua and myself a fantastic, like, hour and a half long interview just about the book itself.
00:02:38And, really, I think it showed the movement coming together, but also this idea of a new way of looking at, you know, at what it is that we're up against.
00:02:47And the response was tremendous as it was.
00:02:49So I will tell you, actually, that in the without revealing too much, looking at the numbers and the fact that we had Publishers Weekly number one on our first week out, we could actually see the book scan.
00:03:02Yet we actually in the week we were released, we outsold every single book on The New York Times bestseller list.
00:03:08And yet we were not included on The New York Times bestseller list.
00:03:12And so there may have been some behind the scenes emailing and phone calling that went back and forth.
00:03:19And we were comparing data and we were looking at different things.
00:03:22And let's just say that I'm very glad that The New York Times decided to decided to be on the right side of history and give the book its due because it earned its place there.
00:03:33It earned it through hard work, doing things the right way.
00:03:36And I appreciate the fact that they were able to come to come to terms with that.
00:03:40Plus, by the way, huge shout out, not only J.D. Vance having blurred the book, but he also hit number one himself in his own right with Hillbilly Elegy, a book that came out, I think, eight years ago when it was first published.
00:03:53But it is also number one that just goes to show there's a huge interest in conservative books and a huge interest in specifically these types of stories, which the for lack of a better term, the new right, the new MAGA movement is putting out.
00:04:08And you're seeing that reflected in the numbers.
00:04:10It's a huge deal, Jack.
00:04:13That is very hard.
00:04:14We did not make the bestseller list this summer.
00:04:16And you did.
00:04:17We did it back from MAGA Doctrine and we did that whole push.
00:04:20Very, very hard to do that.
00:04:22Now, Jack, you would agree there's a lot of gamification.
00:04:25We know the numbers should have penetrated.
00:04:27But you you were able to do it.
00:04:29You were able to jump right into it.
00:04:31And that's a very big deal.
00:04:32Everyone check out On Humans.
00:04:34It is a phenomenal book.
00:04:36And the episode we also have up on the Charlie Kirk podcast page.
00:04:40Do we still have an empty chair, Blake?
00:04:42We still got the empty chair, Charlie.
00:04:44We're monitoring the situation here.
00:04:47We're gazing at the chair right now.
00:04:51I can see through the back to the red light that kind of glows through the chair.
00:04:55It is.
00:04:57Yeah, we've got.
00:04:59There are no anywhere near it.
00:05:03In Tyler's defense, he is hiring hundreds of ballot chasers right now.
00:05:07And he had a very good week getting rid of Stephen Richer so he can come whenever he wants.
00:05:11All right, Charlie.
00:05:12Shut it down.
00:05:13We've got an update.
00:05:14We've got an update.
00:05:16We have a butt.
00:05:17We have an American flag shirt.
00:05:20It has.
00:05:22The boyer has landed.
00:05:24It is in the chair.
00:05:26It is in the chair.
00:05:28Tyler, we were just talking about you.
00:05:29We were talking about how punctual you are.
00:05:32Oh, yeah.
00:05:33This is my problem.
00:05:35They call this Mormon standard time.
00:05:38This is 15 minutes late.
00:05:40You know, every cultural ethnicity in America thinks that they have invented being late.
00:05:46They got human standard time.
00:05:48You got Mormon standard.
00:05:49Am I right, Jack?
00:05:50It's like every group.
00:05:51I guess that's the inverse of the Protestant work ethic, right?
00:05:56So the WASP work ethic is you must be on time.
00:05:59If you're not on time, you're late.
00:06:02If you're early, you're on time, et cetera.
00:06:04But all of the other ethnic groups out there are looking at that and saying, yeah, no,
00:06:09we're not on board with that one.
00:06:11So, Tyler, I want to let you lead the conversation.
00:06:15By the way, the communities of color of the, I believe it was the Seattle and Portland
00:06:20area have officially assigned the Slavic community to be considered a community of color.
00:06:27So as a proud and I've always identified as a person of Polish descent, I, of course,
00:06:35can can claim that I am on Slavic people time.
00:06:39We're basically getting to the point where I want.
00:06:42Oh, never mind. Go ahead.
00:06:45No, please continue.
00:06:47I was just saying, we're basically going to get to the point where it's like, you know,
00:06:51I'll be like the last white man in the world because I'll be just the only German.
00:06:57And it'll be like Ben Franklin's definition from back in the day.
00:07:01Have you ever read that where Ben Franklin basically says that, like, everyone in Europe
00:07:06is actually like a person of color in like 1700s terms.
00:07:09It's a very funny essay that he wrote.
00:07:13So, Tyler, we want you to lead our conversation here because it will segue into the Kamala stuff.
00:07:17But recap, Tyler, what happened with Stephen Richer ballot chasing and the primary this
00:07:22week in Arizona was major news.
00:07:25Walk us through what unfolded here in state 48.
00:07:29Yeah. So I actually just got done. That's why I was late.
00:07:32We were on podcast with one of our ballot chasing managers who actually just won in
00:07:38and we were breaking down some of the numbers just from a general's perspective.
00:07:42The numbers are not yet in Charlie because they're still counting ballots across the
00:07:47state of Arizona.
00:07:49There was a law that was passed this last session that forced them to count through
00:07:53the night. But still, there's people dragging their feet.
00:07:56So they're expecting that the final ballots will be counted this weekend and about
00:08:01another hundred thousand ballots.
00:08:03But there was a huge tectonic shift that happened in this primary, which number one,
00:08:09a lot more Republicans showed up than Democrats to the primary.
00:08:12So that's number one. Number two, you had in Maricopa County, the guy that is the
00:08:18chief elections officials named Stephen Richer.
00:08:20We we've covered him extensively.
00:08:22If we remember the onesies twosies with Bill Gates and Stephen Richer.
00:08:27I don't know if we have a picture of him.
00:08:29He was the guy that oversaw the disastrous election results that happened in 2022.
00:08:36It was his first general election as the chief elections officer.
00:08:39And like half the polling places had issues in Maricopa County.
00:08:42They were refreshing everybody's memory.
00:08:44That's the guy.
00:08:45So he was up for a reelection and the internal polling had him up like ten points.
00:08:50Yeah, that's him. There he is. There he is.
00:08:52There's the guy had him up ten points in some of the internal polling.
00:08:57He ended up losing in a three way race where another conservative actually split the vote.
00:09:03So this would have been an absolute total walloping had it just been a one on one between Justin and him.
00:09:09But Justin Heap, who is a Freedom Caucus member here in Arizona,
00:09:14he has 100 percent score on the turning point action scorecard.
00:09:18He's a full patriot, took him on, challenged him.
00:09:21And and it was the biggest upset of the evening,
00:09:24which was that Justin Heap defeated Stephen Richer by a pretty decent margin.
00:09:30By I think the last check was about six points.
00:09:34And so that was that was the late breaking news that happened here in Arizona this week.
00:09:39Why this matters so much is because Stephen Richer was the face of Lincoln Project style Republicans here,
00:09:48which are very few. They're really Democrats.
00:09:52He the Democrats really didn't feel a legit candidate because this was the Democrats pick.
00:09:58So he got a lot of Democrats for a lot of Democrat money in the primary.
00:10:02And still the grassroots was able to with very minimal resources,
00:10:08was able to upset, spread the word and defeat Stephen Richer.
00:10:12So it's a big deal for a couple of different reasons we can get into.
00:10:16But it definitely helps Trump through November here in Arizona.
00:10:22So I think that's first of all, congratulations, Tyler, and turning point action.
00:10:25Tyler, can you give some idea without any numbers,
00:10:28because we don't want to totally tell our enemy what we have here in Arizona ahead of November.
00:10:32But can you just give some idea of a ballpark scale of what we saw here on the ground in the primary
00:10:41and why that could be predictive heading into November?
00:10:46Yeah. So our job, Charlie, was really simple,
00:10:48as we wanted to use the primary as a practice ground with our ballot chasing army.
00:10:52And we have a lot of volunteers.
00:10:54We have a lot of full time people that were chasing ballots and using this as practice,
00:10:59knowing that we weren't going to get absolutely everybody out.
00:11:03Primaries generally in most places in America have turnouts around 20 percent.
00:11:07That's an average primary.
00:11:09And I'm just giving kind of a ballpark for most Americans just to have a good idea.
00:11:13A really exciting primary will sometimes have upwards of 30 percent turnout.
00:11:19That's a primary election in America.
00:11:21Most general elections usually are like 60, historically have been 60 to 70 percent.
00:11:26It's turnout. So that just gives you an idea.
00:11:28So it's usually less than half of who actually turns out in the general.
00:11:33We saw, Charlie, in some of our key target precincts, close to 50 percent turnout in this primary.
00:11:40We have some. We're still waiting for the data to come in.
00:11:43So we don't want to get overly excited.
00:11:45But I think we will have a couple of precincts at least that break that.
00:11:49I mean, we're talking like in some states.
00:11:51That's general election numbers for turnout for Republicans.
00:11:55And this is Republicans. Right.
00:11:56So that tells you a couple different things.
00:11:58One, we have a really exciting year ahead of us.
00:12:01That's a good sign ahead of this general election.
00:12:03But two, the ballot chasing works.
00:12:06Ballot chasing works. We hear all the time.
00:12:09Charlie hears all the time at freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.
00:12:12You can't overcome the machines. You can't.
00:12:14You're going to lose like just like all this black pillion type stuff on the election manipulation.
00:12:18The Democrats participate in and they're not wrong.
00:12:21There is tons of manipulation, not always the way that they describe it.
00:12:25But it's sometimes a little bit more in the weeds.
00:12:28But this election in particular, why I'm so excited about it is if they could have done anything to save Stephen Richard, they would have.
00:12:35And they were unable to. They were unable to.
00:12:38So this is the most important part. So I want to interject for a second here.
00:12:42The national news media was lamenting the defeat of Stephen Richard.
00:12:45So we agree our elections are flawed.
00:12:48But if they are flawed beyond repair or flawed beyond any chance of victory, they would have done Venezuela for Stephen Richard.
00:12:56Right, Tyler. They would have pulled out everything.
00:12:58What we were able to prove is that, yes, there are major issues.
00:13:03However, they are overcomable with good candidate grassroots work and grassroots hustle.
00:13:13That's right, Charlie. And and this is this is really critical for those that are listening at home in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in places that where we've just been in Michigan, where the election laws are absolutely horrendous.
00:13:25In Wisconsin, where there's so many of our grassroots that just don't trust the process.
00:13:31And rightfully so, that you can overcome things, you can win.
00:13:35Now, you got to keep in mind, anytime that you oust a incumbent, it doesn't matter if it's if it's ours or theirs, meaning on the more moderate side or the more conservative side.
00:13:47It makes it organically more difficult to win in the general.
00:13:51It doesn't matter who it is because you have to be able to reintroduce this person to the entire society.
00:13:58And remember, majority of those people don't vote in a primary.
00:14:01So presidential year, you have everybody voting for the most part.
00:14:05You have to introduce these people. So it is really incumbent upon the Republican Party on every major person.
00:14:13And I'll give Carrie Lake a lot of credit. She has been right there, right behind Justin.
00:14:17He, you know, saying his name to as many people, giving the full support.
00:14:21But you need Trump. You need the campaigns. You need the state parties.
00:14:24You need the local parties all reintroducing this person and saying, this is the guy we totally trust.
00:14:30Otherwise, you you run the risk of losing no matter who that is.
00:14:34And I want to say, no, please finish the thought that I want to nationalize it.
00:14:39But please. Yes. Yeah. And I wanted to just take that.
00:14:42Maybe that's a good transition. Is that that is true everywhere.
00:14:45So that's not unique to Arizona. That that is true everywhere.
00:14:49And so a lot of people who consider themselves conservative MAGA.
00:14:54You have to keep in mind that when we win, it's the game's not over today.
00:14:59This is the beginning. This is the starting line.
00:15:01You have to we have to work together to be able to reintroduce the entire Republican Party who these people are.
00:15:08So let me nationalize this. I believe that in a week where there's been some tough news items,
00:15:14this was the best news of the week, that what happened in Arizona,
00:15:18showing that the strength of the grassroots, the turnout, that is a very strong prediction.
00:15:24By the way, Tyler will reinforce this.
00:15:27We have hundreds of thousands of registered Republicans that do not live here over the summer.
00:15:32They live in Illinois or Wisconsin or Indiana.
00:15:35So the state actually gets redder and redder the closer we get to November.
00:15:39Now, let me now talk about Kamala Harris here in regards to this.
00:15:42I think it's important. And then I want to go to you, Jack.
00:15:45So there is a fair amount of just doom looping that is happening because we grew so used to running up against a corpse.
00:15:52Joe Biden. Some people in the audience are not sure what's going on.
00:15:55The race looks like it's tightening and it is. However, this is not the time to panic.
00:15:59In fact, some of the fundamentals are actually very healthy.
00:16:03Let me highlight three different data points.
00:16:06Number one, according to a very, very trusted poll, Donald Trump is up 10 points in Ohio.
00:16:12If that ends up materializing, that'll be two points better than 2020.
00:16:16Secondly, a University of North Florida poll, which is a great pollster, shows Donald Trump up seven in Florida,
00:16:23which is three and a half points better, nearly double the amount of margin of victory back in 2020.
00:16:29And finally, there's a series of polls. One showed that Kamala Harris is up in Arizona.
00:16:33That one's a little hard to believe, but another one showed that Donald Trump was up five, another Trump up six.
00:16:38The point I'm getting at here is that even though she is having a little bit of a honeymoon period,
00:16:43that we are stronger than we were in 2020 in Ohio, stronger than we were in 2020 in Florida.
00:16:49Now, mind you, those are not the swing states that will determine the entire election.
00:16:53Those are solidly red.
00:16:55However, it is important to understand that this is by no means a collapse. This is not a panic.
00:17:00This is a little bit of what we could call Democrats coming home.
00:17:04Against Joe Biden, only 72% of Democrats were voting for Joe Biden or comfortable with Joe Biden.
00:17:11Now, 91%, 91% of Democrats are voting for Kamala Harris, whereas 92% of Republicans are voting for Donald Trump.
00:17:20So what you have not seen is necessarily Kamala Harris winning over independents.
00:17:23She's simply bringing Democrats back home.
00:17:26That is how I view the state of the race.
00:17:28This is going to be an annoying August where Democrats are going to get a lot of positive headlines,
00:17:32VP rollout, Kamala Harris's convention.
00:17:35But we must continue to define the terms, who she is, what she stands for, how she's unlikable,
00:17:41how she is mean, how she is fake, how she is phony and radical.
00:17:45Jack Posobiec, your thoughts on the state of the race.
00:17:47Look, I think there's a lot of blackmailing going on out there.
00:17:49But at the same time, keep in mind that it was the movement that you're seeing.
00:17:54The enthusiasm that you're seeing is all on the Democrat side.
00:17:59So this goes to show you that that, OK, guess what?
00:18:02We thought it was going to be this big blowout with Joe Biden on the ballot.
00:18:06And it probably was shaping up to be that way.
00:18:09It was Donald Trump versus a non-candidate.
00:18:12But people also have to realize that, and I think some people are, but I want to hear,
00:18:16and I was at the Trump rally last night in Harrisburg, and he spoke to this as well.
00:18:20He didn't talk about Kamala Harris very much.
00:18:23What he really focused on more was the system that we're up against.
00:18:28And he, of course, uses this line again and again with, you know,
00:18:32they're not really after me, they're after you, I'm just in the way.
00:18:36So, yes, I think he needs to frame the race as himself versus the system,
00:18:42that Kamala is just whatever current avatar of the system that they have.
00:18:47That's how you get centrists back on board.
00:18:50That's how you get these independents back on board, plus the enthusiastic base support that he's already got.
00:18:58Of course, we saw that in droves in Pennsylvania and in Harrisburg,
00:19:02and then driving up here to Butler, Pennsylvania, you know, just flags and signs all over the place in western Pennsylvania.
00:19:09And so there's no question.
00:19:10The key difference, I think, really is that what they're trying to push now is this new narrative candidate.
00:19:18And I really do think that there's a lot of definitional issues going on.
00:19:23J.D. Vance, by the way, has a great job of this.
00:19:26And I got to say that J.D. Vance fighting back against the narrative with his own narrative.
00:19:30What did he do today that we haven't seen him do yet on the trail?
00:19:33He put the flannel on.
00:19:35He was down at the border.
00:19:37He was walking around looking like a member of the muscular class.
00:19:41It was the inner hillbilly was coming out.
00:19:44I've said this on Twitter a couple of times, but, you know, you had hillbilly elegy.
00:19:49Now we need hillbilly energy.
00:19:52Actually embrace that.
00:19:54Lean into it.
00:19:55Show that J.D. Vance is a man of the people.
00:19:57Show that J.D. Vance isn't just talking about the forgotten men and women.
00:20:00He literally is one of them.
00:20:02And talking about stories about how when he was growing up and when his mother would take drugs or opioids before the fentanyl crisis and would take that and he would be sitting there as a little boy holding his mom's hand waiting for her to wake up.
00:20:17Those are the types of stories that you need to be using.
00:20:21And I think it's fantastic that he's telling those stories.
00:20:23That's how you respond to a Kamala Harris.
00:20:26It's not necessarily by trying to refute her every point here or there because she's not making any points.
00:20:32Her whole points are vote for me because of my identity.
00:20:35That's it.
00:20:36She's not pointing at anything she's done.
00:20:38She's not pointing at any record.
00:20:40But unfortunately because of the chronic propaganda that's going on in this country for 40 to 50 years now, there are millions of Americans that will vote because of that.
00:20:48They'll vote just for the narrative.
00:20:50What J.D. Vance has started to do and is really doing writ large, leaning into hillbilly elegy and standing up for a group of people that have been largely forgotten, which, oh, by the way, and this speaks to the strategic importance of the pick, those groups of people are centralized in the exact states that Donald Trump needs to win in order to return to the White House.
00:21:15Yeah, and the fundamentals are still good and they're not going to change dramatically.
00:21:19People are not happy with the direction of the country.
00:21:21They can't afford groceries.
00:21:22They're upset about the border.
00:21:23No matter how much Kamala propaganda that there is, Kamala propaganda that there is, that is not going to change.
00:21:29This is J.D. Vance with that hillbilly energy.
00:21:31J.D. Vance has had a great couple of days and he's been treated very, very unfairly.
00:21:36We should get into the whole J.D. Vance thing because he is he is the pro family candidate.
00:21:41If you want to have a family, if you are in if you haven't a strong family and you believe in strong families, J.D. Vance is your guy.
00:21:49The Democrats do not believe in families and they never have.
00:21:51This is a wonderful clip.
00:21:52Play cut 136.
00:21:54The former president's comments yesterday to the National Association of Black Journalists, where he said that Vice President Harris is, quote, all of a sudden black as a father of three biracial children.
00:22:04Did those comments give you pause at all?
00:22:06They don't give me pause at all.
00:22:07Look, all he said is that Kamala Harris is a chameleon.
00:22:10She goes to Georgia two days ago.
00:22:11She was raised in Canada.
00:22:13She puts on a fake Southern accent.
00:22:15She is everything to everybody and she pretends to be somebody different depending on which audience she's in front of.
00:22:21I think it's totally reasonable for the president to call that out.
00:22:24And that's all he did.
00:22:25I mean, look, she's running as a tough on crime prosecutor, even though she implemented open border policy.
00:22:30She's saying that she wants to support the police, yet she wanted to defund the police just three years ago.
00:22:35It's totally reasonable to call out the fact that she pretends to be somebody different depending on the audience she's talking to.
00:22:43This is Blake.
00:22:45Your thoughts on this on not just the J.D. Vance take, but the state of the race.
00:22:50All right.
00:22:51Finally, I wasn't here last week, Charlie.
00:22:53I didn't talk about Kamala.
00:22:54I have a lot to say about Kamala.
00:22:56I feel like I am going insane.
00:22:59Like I am becoming a crazy person over the last two weeks.
00:23:03Like from the amount of whiplash from the amount of I apologize for using this word, but gaslighting of me about Kamala by the press, by the Internet.
00:23:13And, you know, me, I like to fuss where I'll be like, well, what about this thing, Charlie, that happened two years ago?
00:23:19But it's really bad with with Kamala.
00:23:22Like she ran in twenty nineteen.
00:23:24I remember this.
00:23:25You remember this.
00:23:26A lot of people remember it like she ran for president.
00:23:31She got 15 percent off one of these media force memes like this where they just talk about how great she is and they talk about her a lot and they got her up to 15, 16 percent.
00:23:41She was polling.
00:23:42I think she topped out in second place behind Biden in twenty nineteen.
00:23:46She's in that debate where she says that Joe Biden, you know, came on to her school bus to grab her and say, like, you can't go to the school with white children.
00:23:56And he, like, dragged her off to the segregated school.
00:23:59That was this whole bit she did.
00:24:02And, you know, that little girl was me.
00:24:04And it was probably made up, you know, at least in the details of how she described it.
00:24:10And so they really pushed her.
00:24:12And then she fell apart.
00:24:13She fell apart because her campaign was badly run.
00:24:16It was badly managed.
00:24:18Its money staff were unhappy and miserable.
00:24:22And it was basically a total disaster.
00:24:24And the reason she got picked as vice president was not because of any special qualities she had.
00:24:28It was because Biden had to cut a deal to win South Carolina.
00:24:31And it appears that that deal was basically you will choose an African-American as your vice president.
00:24:38And he wanted to pick a woman for vice president.
00:24:40So right down there, you're down to five percent of the population.
00:24:44Five, six percent of the population is eligible for the vice presidential pick.
00:24:48And there were basically three or four people on the short list.
00:24:52And we just have to throw that all away.
00:24:54There's a hilarious story.
00:24:56I'll go back to you in a sec, Blake.
00:24:57But you know there's a hilarious story there.
00:24:59So Joe Biden makes this pledge privately with Jim Clyburn, who basically runs South Carolina.
00:25:03And Jim Clyburn says, OK, you have to say in the debate that you're going to pick a black running mate.
00:25:08And Joe Biden's like, you got it.
00:25:09And it's like three-fourths of the debate, and Joe Biden forgot to say it.
00:25:12And so there's like that 90-second intermission where they say, we'll be right back after a commercial break.
00:25:17And Jim Clyburn literally gets up out of the stands, out of the seats, and goes onto the stage.
00:25:22And everyone's like, what is Jim Clyburn doing?
00:25:24He bulldozes through people, goes right up to Joe Biden, and literally is like,
00:25:28you need to mention the fact you're going to put a black person on the ticket.
00:25:33It's a true story.
00:25:36I'm telling you, it is a true story.
00:25:38And he's like, I totally forgot.
00:25:40And then he mentions it.
00:25:41If you can go look at the tape, you can pull the tape right after the commercial break.
00:25:45Mr. Biden, going back to you, what is your stance on the Green New Deal?
00:25:50And he says, that's why I'll put a black person as my running mate.
00:25:54It's one of the greatest stories where Jim Clyburn basically just starts climbing over people.
00:25:59All right.
00:26:00So, Blake, continue.
00:26:01Sorry.
00:26:02It's a funny little side note.
00:26:03That's an amazing story.
00:26:04I can't believe I hadn't heard that.
00:26:07That's amazing.
00:26:08I've never heard that story before.
00:26:09That's incredible.
00:26:10I've got to go look up that.
00:26:11We need to pull that clip.
00:26:12That's amazing.
00:26:13If we can find a clip, that's incredible.
00:26:15So yeah, that's all preface to say.
00:26:17So she has a disastrous campaign.
00:26:19She has a disastrous vice presidency.
00:26:21And this isn't the New York Post.
00:26:23This isn't the National Review.
00:26:24This isn't Breitbart reporting this.
00:26:26The New York Times and Washington Post are putting out articles where they're just ponderously going, yeah, you know.
00:26:32Kamala has struggled to define her role in this administration.
00:26:37And then you dig into the details, and it's that everything that's given her as a portfolio is a total disaster.
00:26:43She can't handle it.
00:26:44She does some cringe video.
00:26:46Looks like a mess.
00:26:47She can't keep any of her staff.
00:26:48They're all miserable.
00:26:49They all quit.
00:26:50They're all unhappy.
00:26:51And just total disaster zone, which, like, no one thinks that if you had an open primary for the Democrat nomination that Kamala would have won it.
00:27:00No one was, like, excited to have her take over after Joe Biden.
00:27:05Nobody was thinking Kamala was the natural heir apparent.
00:27:08And basically they go with her because they're desperate, and they think if we have an open primary, it'll rip the party apart and we'll lose.
00:27:15And we're just suddenly chucking all of this, just mass hallucination, where we're suddenly going, like, Kamala is brat.
00:27:23Kamala is great.
00:27:24Kamala is definitely qualified for this office.
00:27:26Kamala definitely is not just one disastrous, like, you know, Peter Principle promotion.
00:27:33She just fails and gets promoted over and over again.
00:27:36And that's not even getting into the stuff where, like, people aren't bringing it up because they're worried it'll just be received badly or sound wrong.
00:27:44Like, it is 100% objectively true that Kamala got a job paying her $150,000 a year to attend two meetings a week, or two meetings a month, paid for by California taxpayers because her boyfriend, who was married and 30 years older than her, just gave it to her.
00:28:03And you can find California newspapers saying, oh, it's really remarkable how Kamala was given this job she's not qualified for.
00:28:10She's the companion of Willie Brown and, you know, patronage California.
00:28:15That's how it works.
00:28:16That's her entire career.
00:28:18And we're just throwing this all out and we're like, oh, it makes perfect sense to run this person for president.
00:28:24Can I ask real quick, just while you're on that note, it seems like there's so many conservatives that are kind of falling for it, though.
00:28:31Have you noticed this, that, you know, in your in your in your view of the whole situation in your self-imposed exile last week that it seems like a lot of conservatives and like right or right adjacent commentators are just going along with it.
00:28:47They really are.
00:28:48I think I saw this repeatedly that, you know, it was Dane like they're saying, don't touch certain parts of Kamala's history.
00:28:55And I agree.
00:28:56It's tough.
00:28:57There are ways that can go astray.
00:28:59But I do think with Trump, everyone he's gone against, there's almost been one of his strengths is he finds that fatal flaw with a person and he picks at it over and over again.
00:29:10So with Hillary, it was crooked Hillary.
00:29:12She's the swamp personified.
00:29:15She's obviously dealing influence for money.
00:29:19Clinton Foundation's a giant grift with Jeb Bush.
00:29:23That fatal flaw was Jeb Bush really didn't want to be president.
00:29:27He was kind of running out of obligation.
00:29:29He just represented this machine and he was the next man up and no one really wanted this guy and he didn't want it with, you know, with Governor DeSantis.
00:29:39Frankly, it was, you know, he's kind of he's kind of a dork.
00:29:42And Trump really hit at that.
00:29:44He can do that to Republicans as well as Democrats with Kamala.
00:29:48I think the fatal flaw is she's fake.
00:29:51She is a scam.
00:29:53Everything you are being told about her is like the ad campaign for a bad movie or a bad TV show.
00:30:00I think I saw on Twitter someone joked that Kamala Harris is like one of those Star Wars spinoff shows that gets a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:30:08But then the audience reviews are 30% positive.
00:30:13It's a lot like that.
00:30:14We're having all these people come out and pretending that Kamala is amazing when we have literally decades of evidence of people on Kamala's own side believing, no, Kamala is not amazing.
00:30:25She's dumb.
00:30:26She has no principles.
00:30:28She's not really qualified for all of the jobs that she is given.
00:30:32She's not good at running organizations.
00:30:34She doesn't inspire loyalty.
00:30:36Look at Trump.
00:30:37There are people who have worked for Trump for decades on end who say great things about Trump.
00:30:42There's tons of great stories about how Trump gets along great with his caddies, with waiters.
00:30:47He's a generous tipper.
00:30:49There's a lot of people who have these warm interactions with Trump throughout his life.
00:30:53And there's none of that for Kamala.
00:30:56People hate Kamala.
00:30:59So which goes to my idea, which I am pushing privately and publicly, and I've told the entire team and I got to call Trump about this and give him my opinion, which I don't care.
00:31:08I don't care if it's my idea or not.
00:31:10Do you guys all agree?
00:31:11Yes, debate town hall format, the best for Trump to be able to interact and contrast with Kamala Harris.
00:31:18Does everyone agree that that is the best venue for him to be able to succeed in that format and potentially even gain votes?
00:31:28I definitely think so.
00:31:29I think you need Kamala.
00:31:33She can definitely do a canned line.
00:31:36She did it in the debates in 2019 where she basically she got her 60 seconds to go blast Joe Biden and the press probably tipped off.
00:31:46This is what she would say beforehand.
00:31:47We're all there to say like, oh, Kamala made a strong showing in this debate.
00:31:50But if you can muddle that even a bit, if you do a town hall where the questions are, you know, they're phrased a bit weirdly because it's an ordinary person.
00:31:58Or you just you put her in a situation where she has to think on her feet and she cannot get away with recite a 60 second bit that she memorized beforehand.
00:32:08It goes badly.
00:32:09When she had that OK showing in the first Democrat debate, everyone after that, she was a mess because other Democrats would take shots at her and she couldn't handle it.
00:32:18When she has to think on her feet as vice president, she starts talking in baby talk.
00:32:23That's another thing.
00:32:24They're just memory holing that she goes on a radio show.
00:32:27They ask her about Ukraine and she describes Ukraine and Russia like the audience are literally in second grade.
00:32:35And she does that repeatedly.
00:32:37She is not good.
00:32:38Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:32:39But but I would.
00:32:41This is something I've always defended Kamala Harris on.
00:32:44And I know that it's like, wait, what?
00:32:46No, but let me explain.
00:32:47So when she says Ukraine and Russia, like Ukraine's a small country and Russia's a big country, like obviously that's very silly and childish.
00:32:55But there's something else that's more to the point.
00:32:58She's right about that.
00:32:59This has actually become a huge issue in the Ukraine war because because Russia just has more resources to bring to bear.
00:33:07And they're like, oh, Russia's losing soldiers and Russia's doing this, doing that.
00:33:10And it's like, yeah, but Ukraine lost their entire army.
00:33:13So it's actually something where it's like she she was kind of right, but for the completely wrong reasons.
00:33:19And yet all of the experts are completely wrong also for the wrong reasons.
00:33:25I'll say this, it's kind of interesting.
00:33:29I think that, you know, I'll add kind of context to what Jack is saying.
00:33:35I'm a big believer in speaking simple.
00:33:38You know, politics is just I think we got the Republican Party got so into this whole like Koch era, like every state needs to have these think tanks and we need to talk like we're like Stephen Moore at every dinner table.
00:33:52And like everybody hates that.
00:33:53And there's and I get your point that just like she's so obnoxiously stupid and silly and really has no idea what she's talking about.
00:34:00But I think more people take away from Kamala Harris that listen to her of like, oh, she's relatable and I understand what she's saying and all of these things.
00:34:10Right. And like and again, I think this is part of the virtue of Donald Trump, too, is that our side, especially, you know, the regular man listens to Donald Trump.
00:34:21Oh, I get what he's saying. I get what he's talking about.
00:34:24And unfortunately for America, Kamala's baby talk, simplistic, you know, overtones that she has with every single issue that's brought to her as vice president, the United States of America, a heartbeat away from the presidency.
00:34:39She probably should be the president right now because who knows what Joe Biden is doing in real life.
00:34:45But this is something that works, unfortunately, with most of America.
00:34:49Oh, man. And, you know, that's true.
00:34:51If you're. Yeah, but, you know, it's true.
00:34:53Right. We're so doomed. We're just going to have baby talk president and she'll have 70 percent approval and they'll just be like, I like.
00:35:01But hold on. I want to say, though, that there's a place for sophisticated language.
00:35:06I think part of the vague appeal was that he would use bigger words and increase vocabulary.
00:35:11I think it's actually how you present it.
00:35:13If you talk really, really fast like Vivek does or Ben Shapiro does or at times I do, I think that anybody can be appealing to that because it's almost kind of becomes a performance sport.
00:35:23But if you talk really slow with big words, people just kind of lose you.
00:35:27Like, what are you saying? It's like, you know.
00:35:31Go ahead. It's like lead guitar.
00:35:33Like it's like not everybody can play guitar.
00:35:35But if you if you can play guitar slowly, people like, OK, fine, whatever you're in a bar or something.
00:35:41But if you're like Steve Vai up there or, you know, Kirk Hammett going at it or Billy Corgan or something, suddenly people like, oh, wow, that's amazing.
00:35:48Even if, you know, it's totally beyond their can.
00:35:51Well, and I'll kind of add this.
00:35:54This is part of the whole turning point appeal, which is like, again, I think of it in terms of of the conservative movement.
00:36:01Think tank language, like Charlie said, has a place.
00:36:05The place just happens to not be in like presidential elections.
00:36:10Unfortunately, it has I think it has more appeal in a primary setting where you have, you know, probably more aware and interested folks engaged.
00:36:20I actually think that this is the scary point.
00:36:22So what you're bringing up Kamala is a more dangerous general candidate than she is a primary candidate.
00:36:27It could be true.
00:36:29I do think I hope this is really just hope, I should say.
00:36:33I hope that I think you can be more simple, more, more direct if it helps that the sense is that you're being honest and maybe being serious.
00:36:43That's really what stands out about Trump.
00:36:45Trump kind of he had this power starting all the way back in 2015 that he could he could cut through BS.
00:36:52And that was the directness of Trump that was appealing.
00:36:55He'd come down the escalator and he'd come out and say all the stuff they're saying is complex about the border.
00:37:01That's all that's all crap.
00:37:04It's a bunch of criminals and rapists and drug dealers and murderers are crossing the border.
00:37:09Send them back, build a wall.
00:37:10And that's straightforward.
00:37:12And it's not straightforward in a I'm talking to a baby sort of sense.
00:37:15It's straightforward in the sense of this is a clear moral issue.
00:37:19This is a clear policy issue.
00:37:22America's interest is clear.
00:37:23So you don't need to make it all nuanced.
00:37:25Same thing with the wars.
00:37:26He would say so.
00:37:29I would say Iraq is a disaster.
00:37:31The wars are a disaster.
00:37:33We're going to cut them out.
00:37:34I feel like with Kamala, she doesn't do that, at least in the clips that go viral for us.
00:37:41It's like simple in the sense of she's doing a rehearsed politician bit and she's not good at it.
00:37:48So she has to do like the I'm a I'm a fifth grader playing a vice president.
00:37:53Yeah, except now she actually is running and we're going to be punished with this because we are a sinful nation.
00:37:59So let me just say one thing about this has been memory hold.
00:38:04It's so hard to find.
00:38:05By the way, I will give $100.
00:38:07Okay.
00:38:08You hear that, Ryan?
00:38:09No.
00:38:10$250.
00:38:11I've spent hours looking for this.
00:38:12And I'm sure you guys have had this experience.
00:38:13This was back in 2016 where it has been totally memory hold of this Ph.D.
00:38:19who studies language.
00:38:21What would that would be called?
00:38:23Entomologist?
00:38:25Someone who studies what?
00:38:28Language, you said?
00:38:31Yeah, not a linguist.
00:38:34No, it's someone who studies the roots of words and where they come from.
00:38:38I think that's an entomologist.
00:38:39Anyway, so etymology.
00:38:42Etymology.
00:38:43Yeah, an etymologist.
00:38:44Yes.
00:38:45Okay.
00:38:46So anyway, it could be a mixture between a linguist and an entomologist.
00:38:52Anyway, so he was a Ph.D.
00:38:54And this was back in August of 2016.
00:38:57And he basically went on some show and he said Donald Trump's going to win the presidency.
00:39:02And the host was like, what are you talking about?
00:39:05He's like, I study language for a living and let me show you why.
00:39:08And it was this amazing five minute video where he just took a random Donald Trump interview.
00:39:12And he says he does not use words that are more than two syllables unless he absolutely has to.
00:39:18And the way he talks in the choppy manner is so digestible and it resonates with people in such a way.
00:39:24He said this is 40 years of somebody that has studied himself on TV.
00:39:28And that has made his speech patterns in the highest impactful way that a human being possibly can.
00:39:35And he said this is this has been trained into him for 40 years.
00:39:39And, for example, he'll just say, and the war in Iraq was a mess.
00:39:43It was a mess.
00:39:44It was terrible.
00:39:45It was awful.
00:39:46I mean, it's very precise language, hard punching.
00:39:49I wish I could find that video.
00:39:51It's so powerful.
00:39:52And he accurately said that he was able to talk to the common man.
00:39:56Do you know what I'm talking about, Jack?
00:39:58I can't find it.
00:39:59It's been memorable.
00:40:00I totally remember this video.
00:40:01Yes.
00:40:02It went viral in 2016 a couple of times.
00:40:04Yes.
00:40:05Yes, it did.
00:40:06And he broke it down from the actual.
00:40:08He has like an equation where he's like, if it's more than XYZ syllables over 500 words,
00:40:14you're going to lose the audience.
00:40:15If it's less than XYZ syllables, then you're able to maintain the audience.
00:40:19And he has this equation.
00:40:20And Donald Trump got like the highest or lowest score, as you will.
00:40:23And he says, usually the people get low scores are considered to be dumb.
00:40:26But in presidential politics, this is actually how you win.
00:40:29Yeah.
00:40:30And that's why I think Kamala is so dangerous in a general is because her simplistic nature
00:40:36actually is a huge asset, especially because she's basically like a Manchurian candidate.
00:40:42So, I mean, they could literally just stick her out just for simple things, say things
00:40:48in very scripted format and then hide her.
00:40:50And this is like, this is what they do.
00:40:52This is like the Katie Hobbs thing.
00:40:53Like Katie Hobbs never came out of her hole except for very few things.
00:40:57Here in Arizona, we have a few other examples of this where it's like when they don't trust
00:41:01you, they won't stick you out.
00:41:02That is actually the biggest best defense against Donald Trump that the Democrats could
00:41:08play.
00:41:09That is the that is the game that they play.
00:41:11We know that they're playing this.
00:41:12So to that point, like she's we got to try to force her to come out and talk more because
00:41:17the more she talks to Charlie's point is like the more she's going to lose people and the
00:41:23more people are going to resonate with Donald Trump.
00:41:25But this is like this week is a perfect example is Donald Trump is outgoing, long form and
00:41:30things, which is not his strong suit.
00:41:32Right.
00:41:33And we're talking about like this, this interview that happened this week.
00:41:36And it's like, yeah, I'm not bothered by it.
00:41:39I think it's funny.
00:41:40I think it's hilarious.
00:41:41There's so many good clips.
00:41:42But the average American is only reading the short quip headlines and the sound bites that
00:41:50they chop up.
00:41:52It is really hard to sound by a lot of what Donald Trump does is because of what Charlie
00:41:57is talking about right now, what he's referencing.
00:41:59Yeah.
00:42:00One thing I like to point out with Trump is they'll say people say he's like dumb or whatever.
00:42:06And actually, if you look at sometimes even when his language is confusing, it's because
00:42:10it's almost it's like overloaded with ideas that he's struggling to like efficiently put
00:42:16out.
00:42:17One that stood out to me even yesterday was when he was at the black journalist event
00:42:22is they made a quip about like the vice presidency and why the pick matters.
00:42:27And he kind of just says in passing, he's like, yeah, you know, one of the things about
00:42:32the vice president pick is it doesn't matter for the race as much as people think it does.
00:42:37So, you know, kind of saying you pick them for the actual successor thing, not just to
00:42:41win states.
00:42:42And he's like, and, you know, in the past it hasn't mattered much except, you know,
00:42:45for LBJ who it mattered, but for a political reason, not an electoral one.
00:42:50And so like what he's actually saying there, and he doesn't elaborate on this and you have
00:42:54to be a nerd to even notice it, but he's basically saying picking LBJ mattered because he helped
00:42:59JFK steal the election in Texas in 1960, which is this stray fact Donald Trump happens to
00:43:06remember and know about that he probably learned decades ago.
00:43:10Maybe someone, he read the Carol book or someone summarized it to him, or he just remembers
00:43:14the election.
00:43:15And he just like sort of alludes to this in passing.
00:43:1899% of the people are just going to think he's being confusing, but that's clearly what
00:43:22he's actually referencing.
00:43:25He's like overloaded with ideas and that's why he can be so effective just going for
00:43:31hours on end.
00:43:32That's why he can actually sometimes be, he can just talk for two hours and it'll almost
00:43:37be tedious because he's got so much stuff he can recall.
00:43:40He doesn't need the notes, doesn't need a teleprompter.
00:43:42He can just go.
00:43:43Even, yeah, Andrew says even, even when Trump is telling a fib, he's actually telling the
00:43:49truth in like a very deep way.
00:43:51It's a, he, well, but this is, this is the thing is that, that Trump Mac tell Trump tells
00:43:56macro truths, which is why they hate him.
00:43:58Okay.
00:43:59The, he, the, the macro truths of Donald Trump are what is, what is this NATO thing?
00:44:04And why is it here?
00:44:06That's like, you're not allowed to say that.
00:44:09You're not allowed the Jack.
00:44:11What was the Scott Adams quote about Donald Trump's ability to tell the truth?
00:44:16What, what was, he talks about directional accuracy, like directionally accurate.
00:44:22Yes.
00:44:23So it's, it's the idea that he, or he also has a quote, I think where he says, no, I
00:44:27know what you're talking about.
00:44:28He says, Democrats take him literally conservatives understand him figuratively, you know, something
00:44:36along those lines where he's saying that like people, people know that he doesn't actually
00:44:41mean there's hundreds of millions of illegals spilling over.
00:44:44He's painting a picture and then they'll go, well, actually it was 25 million, not hundreds
00:44:48of millions or something like this.
00:44:50But people understand that he's, he's using language as a metaphor is using it to paint
00:44:54pictures, very visual speaker.
00:44:57And they'll, they'll nitpick little things that he's made like that, you know, billions
00:45:01and billions or something there's over and over, but he's doing so to draw your attention
00:45:06to the fact that something is much larger than it should be.
00:45:08And it's always far more directionally accurate than when you're hearing someone try to try
00:45:14to piece apart those little things.
00:45:16And then also to your point of what you were saying earlier, that this is why Donald Trump's
00:45:20resonance with voters is much stronger than say, Paul Ryan, when he was running around
00:45:25with his bow tie and his PowerPoint talking about why he was going to cut everyone's entitlement
00:45:29programs, because they can understand what Trump is saying better.
00:45:32And then it has that emotional resonance with them because it's stuff that they've been
00:45:36wondering themselves or stuff they've been thinking about filling in the gaps of things
00:45:40that they try to say.
00:45:41It's also one of the reasons why, by the way, and I've said this forever, that when you're
00:45:46listening to Donald Trump, especially listening and watching that you can understand him so
00:45:52much better because 90% of communication is nonverbal than when you're just reading a
00:45:57transcript.
00:45:58They'll do this with everything, with the Charlottesville hoax, with the drinking bleach
00:46:01hoax.
00:46:02They'll show you the transcript and they'll say, oh, here's the transcript, but pieces
00:46:05of it will be omitted.
00:46:06But then if you look at him in public or if he's telling a joke or being sarcastic, which
00:46:10he's done so many times, you can tell from all of the nonverbal body cues that he's giving
00:46:16that obviously he's intending something as a joke or obviously he's being sarcastic or
00:46:21making a face or something like this.
00:46:23And of course, that doesn't transfer over into direct text.
00:46:28And so if you're just reading a transcript of it, then you're losing 90% basically of
00:46:34what was going on.
00:46:36I want to play this piece of tape here.
00:46:38Kamala Harris, who has yet to do a press conference, take a single question since being the nominee,
00:46:42since Biden has been forced off the ballot.
00:46:44This is a huge attack vector.
00:46:46But I just want us all to acknowledge that Donald Trump has changed the way that we all
00:46:50communicate.
00:46:51Can we all agree at this in our public speaking, Jack?
00:46:53I mean, we all now have a little bit of Trumpian aspect of how we do the body language, right?
00:46:59Like someone I know, someone said that they started talking like Trump at the office place
00:47:05and he like got promoted like twice as fast than he would have.
00:47:10Oh, no, because it's it's alpha power moves.
00:47:12And I would love to actually ask Donald Trump once he becomes president and say, so is this
00:47:19something that someone taught you or that you coached yourself through a series of self
00:47:24examination?
00:47:26I'd be fascinated from a public speaking to to to who?
00:47:34Norman Vincent Peale.
00:47:37The preacher, I didn't know that he actually actually take him to Norman Vincent Peale.
00:47:43I'm trying to look it up.
00:47:44He had a church in New York that his father, Fred, would take him to like all the time.
00:47:50I think I did not know that.
00:47:53I think part of the power of thinking that would be interesting.
00:47:58I think part of it's the New York part of it's probably I mean, just being around so many
00:48:02people, I think also just in real estate and doing deals and things like that.
00:48:06I think when you talk about a person like him, he's very much and surely has seen this in real
00:48:12time to up close as he's the kind of guy where he wants to get to points very quickly.
00:48:18He wants to get to the point and in so much that like there'll be a conflict.
00:48:22And instead of just discussing the conflict for minutes or hours with people, he'll just
00:48:28be like, get this other person on the line or get the other person in here and let's get
00:48:31right to it.
00:48:32But that's like a that's a very common Trump thing.
00:48:34And that to me, that is something that is like really adjacent to how he talks, which
00:48:40is like it's just like he just wants to get to points.
00:48:42He doesn't have time for this stuff.
00:48:43He wants to get down to it.
00:48:45And that's kind of what makes him who he is.
00:48:48And he reaffirms everything.
00:48:49Because when you're, again, talking with people, sometimes in large groups, you get
00:48:54circular, you forget.
00:48:55And so he reaffirms everything.
00:48:57He says it four different ways, four different times, makes it as simple as possible and
00:49:01gets right to the point.
00:49:02I'm now just imagining a pastor talking in full Trump mode.
00:49:06So just like Jesus, Jesus, he had the biggest, the biggest assemblies.
00:49:12They fed over 5,000 people with just a few loaves and a few fish.
00:49:18And they filled, what was it, nine wicker baskets afterwards.
00:49:22They filled so many wicker baskets.
00:49:25We could have the entire Trump Hotel, all the taco bowls could have could have been
00:49:30made with just the leftovers from when they fed the 5,000 and just going on like that
00:49:35for ages.
00:49:36And I like to imagine this existing.
00:49:39But you are right.
00:49:40Yeah, he's totally infected the way everyone talks.
00:49:42Just think of the number of even just stray phrases that are Trump-isms just saying sad
00:49:48in response to things.
00:49:49That's a Trump thing.
00:49:51Many such cases.
00:49:54That's right.
00:49:55You're telling me for the first time, which might be one of the greatest Trump moments
00:49:57and underrate.
00:49:58I think it's one of the most underrated Trump moments ever where he could have like
00:50:02gotten blown out in 2020 if he messed this up and he comes off of a rally.
00:50:07It was a total setup.
00:50:08Right.
00:50:09And you're telling me for the first time, she was a wonderful person.
00:50:14Like right there.
00:50:15It's like, all right, make or break.
00:50:16You screw this up.
00:50:17We would not have gotten a Supreme Court seat if Donald Trump would have just been like,
00:50:22oh, really?
00:50:23Wow.
00:50:24She was awful.
00:50:25You know, it's like, no, it was perfect.
00:50:27All right.
00:50:28This is so Kamala Harris refuses to take questions.
00:50:31This is a growing issue here.
00:50:33Let's play Cut 138.
00:50:35Thank you all.
00:50:36Madam Vice President, will you be meeting Evan and Paul when they return?
00:50:50At least she didn't trip.
00:50:51Charlie, you're telling me she hasn't taken one questions and she became the presumptive
00:50:55nominee?
00:50:56Not an interview, not a question, not a remark.
00:50:58Nothing.
00:51:00But not a single vote.
00:51:01Since she has taken over, not a single vote.
00:51:04She has not taken a question.
00:51:06Meanwhile, Donald Trump goes up against the most vicious people that you could possibly
00:51:11imagine at the National Association of Black Journalists.
00:51:14Jack, I think we need to emphasize this and force Kamala Harris into the press conference.
00:51:19They're trying to do the basement strategy, but you know what's not going to work?
00:51:22She's the sitting vice president of the United States.
00:51:24That's not going to work, Kamala Harris.
00:51:26There's no basement strategy.
00:51:27You have duties and responsibilities right now.
00:51:29Right now.
00:51:30Jack, I think this is something that we need to exploit.
00:51:34No, this is something and that's obviously something where, of course, when we have all
00:51:38those reporters reaching out to us saying, oh, what did you mean by this?
00:51:42Or, you know, we're watching thought crimes like they do every week and say, what did
00:51:45you mean by this segment, by that segment?
00:51:47OK, well, we'll ask you this.
00:51:49Why are you so worried about what Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec are saying on podcasts
00:51:54and yet you're not spending any time with just an ounce of curiosity?
00:51:59What the sitting vice president, who is effectively, as far as we know, running the White House
00:52:04at this point, is doing on a day to day basis and not answering any questions from the media
00:52:10after being handed the nomination on a silver platter.
00:52:13That's journalistic integrity.
00:52:15That's something where, by the way, if you're if you're ever dealing with one of these organizations,
00:52:20that's what you always have to call into question.
00:52:22Don't say they're not being fair, saying they're not being journalists.
00:52:26And if you can call into question whether or not they're being journalists and actually
00:52:29show them something that they are doing on one side and not on the other.
00:52:32And I'm not saying just one of those like, oh, you're being mean to Trump.
00:52:35No, no, no, no, no.
00:52:36I mean, you haven't asked a single question.
00:52:39That's something that you can put over with the American people.
00:52:42That's something you can explain to anybody on the street and say, why?
00:52:45Isn't it kind of weird that she just got the nomination without anybody voting for her?
00:52:49They threw out the primary and the media won't ask them a simple question.
00:52:52Why is that?
00:52:53Why are they doing that?
00:52:54Why won't they ask any question?
00:52:56Eventually, you'll get somebody like a Jake Tapper who's so vainglorious and has such
00:53:00high self-esteem, just just believes, worships himself.
00:53:03You get somebody like that and suddenly it's going to get under their skin.
00:53:06It's going to get under their skin to the point where they're going to have to make
00:53:09it happen.
00:53:12Yeah.
00:53:13And this is probably the number one reason why I support, even though this completely
00:53:17screws up the whole Trump forty seven stitching on everybody's hats is I totally
00:53:22support, you know, forcing comma into the presidency because this this that would
00:53:28for sure.
00:53:29I am deathly afraid they're going to pull what they do in twenty twenty with Joe
00:53:32Biden, right?
00:53:33And they're going to find every excuse in the book.
00:53:35Yeah.
00:53:36We don't have that much time left.
00:53:37We only have seven weeks here, right?
00:53:39Until early ballots are out in most states.
00:53:41They can run out.
00:53:42They can run out the clock for seven weeks for sure, guys.
00:53:46And so the only way that they can't is if she is forcibly put into the presidency,
00:53:51that that would be the only way.
00:53:53And that that's the scary part is we don't know where Joe Biden, how he's actually
00:53:57doing right now.
00:53:58We really don't.
00:53:59So I.
00:54:00Well, so they would have been smart, to be honest, like they would have been smart
00:54:03to have her do some really easy sit down interviews and just get it over with.
00:54:08They are now broadcasting how insecure they are about her.
00:54:11This has now gotten to the place where we are going on two weeks where she has not
00:54:15taken a question.
00:54:16She has not done an interview.
00:54:17They are now broadcasting.
00:54:19Oh, they're very afraid of her ability to have dialogue and discourse.
00:54:23And all right.
00:54:24They now showed us their weakness.
00:54:26We must we must force her into the public light.
00:54:29I just brought Doug this up because I remembered reading this.
00:54:33So this is from twenty nineteen.
00:54:36And it was a dad whose son worked in an unpaid internship for Kamala Harris.
00:54:42And I guess it didn't go well because it went bad enough that the dad wrote an
00:54:46op ed for the union, which appears to be some local paper in California.
00:54:52And he says, for short episodes, I would like to share of his month long
00:54:56internship for Kamala Harris.
00:54:58One, Senator Harris vocally throws around F bombs and other profanity
00:55:03constantly and her berating of staff and others.
00:55:06The staff is in complete fear of her and she uses her profanity throughout the
00:55:11day.
00:55:12Second, as attorney general, Senator Harris instructed her entire staff to
00:55:17stand every morning as she entered the office and say, good morning, general.
00:55:25He also says, never once during the month long internship did Harris
00:55:29introduce herself to the son.
00:55:31And he was in a staff of twenty paid employees like a Senate office.
00:55:35I will say I interned in the Senate.
00:55:37I was introduced to the senator that I worked for and he knew my name.
00:55:41So props to him.
00:55:44And then the only acknowledgment was a form letter of thanks.
00:55:47And then this is great.
00:55:48Gregory, the son, was also given instructions how to address his
00:55:52son was also given instructions to never address Harris, nor look her in
00:55:57the eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.
00:56:03That might be maybe that's like exaggeration.
00:56:06Like they're basically saying, don't bother her.
00:56:08And maybe that came through as like, don't look her in the eye.
00:56:11Well, I can see that being exaggerated, but hear me out here.
00:56:15Ryan, can you get this latest tape here of her coming out of the car?
00:56:18Now that I might be nitpicking here, but I don't think I am.
00:56:21And I just this is this is Kamala Harris coming out of the car.
00:56:26And just the way that she hands her phone to the staffer.
00:56:30Can we get this up on screen as the B-roll where she just kind of like
00:56:33flippantly throws the phone to just quote unquote the help, you know,
00:56:36doesn't even say, you know, thank you or looked at the person in the eye.
00:56:40Again, I've kind of probably done this body gesture before, but she just
00:56:44she comes out as if she's the king, the queen of the world.
00:56:47And she doesn't take a single question.
00:56:49She doesn't take a single response from the media, none whatsoever.
00:56:53And I might be over like thinking this, but she just kind of just throws it there.
00:56:58OK, thanks so much.
00:56:59And look, she's this plays into this narrative where you're like,
00:57:04did I hear you right?
00:57:05You're not allowed to look her in the eye.
00:57:07That was that was what this op ed said.
00:57:09Gregory was given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the eye
00:57:15as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.
00:57:19Now, I can understand some reasons for that.
00:57:21I wasn't allowed to refer to Charlie by name until I'd worked here for at least
00:57:26eight months.
00:57:28And then you had to take a test.
00:57:31It was Mr. Kirk, right?
00:57:33Yeah, just kidding.
00:57:35Just kidding.
00:57:36Of course.
00:57:37No, we totally hazed you.
00:57:39I remember you looked in Charlie's.
00:57:41It wasn't looking him in the eye.
00:57:42It was looking in his direction.
00:57:43Yeah.
00:57:44It was like, you know, the ancient Hawaiian.
00:57:46It was like the ancient Hawaiian kings.
00:57:47If your shadow fell on his shadow, you broke the taboo and had to be executed.
00:57:52And then you had to go outside, take off your shirt.
00:57:54We gave you 18 lashings.
00:57:55Yes.
00:57:56Yes.
00:57:57Yeah.
00:57:58Welcome to Arizona.
00:57:59Welcome to Arizona.
00:58:00That's right.
00:58:01So let's let's summarize this all together here.
00:58:04I thought this was actually terrific.
00:58:07This is President Trump at his best, mocking and humiliating Kamala Harris,
00:58:11how insincere and fake she is.
00:58:13Let's play cut one to eight.
00:58:17Because everything about Kamala Harris roll out, it's phony and it's fake.
00:58:21Did you see when President Obama and Michelle called?
00:58:26Did you say hello?
00:58:28Hello.
00:58:29Yes.
00:58:30Yes.
00:58:31Who is this?
00:58:32Oh, this is Michelle and Barack.
00:58:35Oh, oh.
00:58:37So surprised to hear they got four cameras in front.
00:58:40Oh, I'm so surprised.
00:58:42It's on speakerphone.
00:58:45Listen, we just want to congratulate you on destroying Joe Biden.
00:58:51I mean, on winning the.
00:58:53Hey, is Joe Biden going to was that the phoniest phone call you've ever seen?
00:58:59How do you think, Dan?
00:59:00What do you think?
00:59:01Dan, you're a great congressman.
00:59:03What do you think?
00:59:04Was that a phony phone call?
00:59:05You wouldn't do it.
00:59:06You wouldn't get away in your district.
00:59:08You wouldn't get away with it, would you?
00:59:13She's fake.
00:59:14We actually have the tape of that call.
00:59:17I believe we do.
00:59:18Let me check.
00:59:21Ryan, do we have that?
00:59:25Yes.
00:59:26Yes.
00:59:27No, that's the that's the Trump response.
00:59:28Crap.
00:59:33It was it was really.
00:59:34So go ahead, Tyler.
00:59:36I was just going to say, yeah, Kamala strikes me as.
00:59:39Have you guys ever watched the movie Terrible Bosses?
00:59:43That was called Horrible Bosses.
00:59:45Horrible Bosses.
00:59:46I actually saw some of it once.
00:59:48I don't think I finished it.
00:59:50She does kind of remind me of that, like that character that like that type of
00:59:56character where it's just like and everybody's worked for a bad boss just
01:00:00doesn't care about you that much, you know, is, you know, just kind of in and
01:00:05out, all that.
01:00:06And it's just it's associated with it.
01:00:08The hard part about her and this is politics in general, is that there are
01:00:13some people involved politics that are exactly like Kamala have no reason to
01:00:17get where they get to.
01:00:18They're not really genuinely regarded, highly regarded people, but they just
01:00:24kind of just fail their way up.
01:00:26We talk about that all the time in politics.
01:00:28And that's truly who she is.
01:00:30She has just like failed upwards her entire career because of it's just
01:00:35convenience, I think, mostly an adjacency to a lot of convenience.
01:00:40And she hits like she's been there to hit the demographic checkbox when they
01:00:44need it.
01:00:45We got to replace Barbara Boxer.
01:00:47Let's get a diverse candidate.
01:00:49Who's around?
01:00:50Oh, well, there is no the age controllable.
01:00:52That's controllable.
01:00:53So let's let's play cut 140.
01:00:55She's trying to be like this girl boss.
01:00:57This is so nauseating.
01:00:58It's just I think this is repulsive the way that she's like faking the whole
01:01:02thing.
01:01:03You got four cameras there.
01:01:04She doesn't even know how to hold up a phone for speakerphone.
01:01:06Play cut 140.
01:01:08Kamala.
01:01:09Hi.
01:01:10Hey there.
01:01:12Oh, hi.
01:01:13You're both together.
01:01:15Oh, it's good to hear you both.
01:01:17I can't.
01:01:18She's not being together.
01:01:19And to my girl Kamala, I am proud of you.
01:01:23This is going to be historic.
01:01:26We call to say Michelle and I couldn't be prouder to endorse you and to do everything
01:01:31we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.
01:01:36Michelle Brock, this means so much to me.
01:01:38I'm looking forward to doing this with the two of you.
01:01:41Doug and I both and getting out there being on the road.
01:01:47I just want to tell you that the words you have spoken and the friendship that you have
01:01:51given over all these years mean more than I can express.
01:01:55The sad thing means so much.
01:01:58And we're going to have some fun with this, too, aren't we?
01:02:01The sad thing is it makes me think of the viral reaction.
01:02:06The viral reaction, this makes me think of how on YouTube and Facebook and stuff, there's
01:02:11a whole subgenre of these like those kind of fake videos where it'll be like Karen is
01:02:18racist and then gets owned right away.
01:02:20And it's like all clearly fictional.
01:02:22Have you seen these like these basic morality plays?
01:02:25Yeah. And there will be all these comments from people who seem to think that this is
01:02:28real that people or people will be like, this is fake.
01:02:32And it's like, well, it's obviously fake.
01:02:33Yes. Yeah.
01:02:34Yeah, exactly.
01:02:35And this makes me think of that.
01:02:37Like this is a transparently fake scene that was like shot for the cameras for the
01:02:42campaign. And then people are looking like, wow, so amazing how there's this warmth
01:02:48between Kamala and the Obamas.
01:02:51I like Obama.
01:02:52He was he was tall.
01:02:53He was he was a great president.
01:02:55So like this could work.
01:02:58And if it works, I will just I'll just want to die.
01:03:01I'll just want to crawl into a hole and and I don't know, eat, eat a bunch of
01:03:08caramel popcorn or something.
01:03:10And then just what a country.
01:03:14But we do not like caramel popcorn.
01:03:16No, caramel popcorn is great.
01:03:18But if I eat too much of it, I'll look like Charlie pre-Ph.D.
01:03:21weight loss. And, you know, we don't want that.
01:03:24So that's true.
01:03:27And if we lose, who knows?
01:03:29I'd have to go back on Ph.D.
01:03:30weight loss. It could be really bad.
01:03:33It could be really bad.
01:03:34All right.
01:03:35Closing thoughts, guys.
01:03:36Jack stayed.
01:03:37I mean, we were going to all these other topics, but the race is just, you know,
01:03:40now this is so hot right now.
01:03:42Final thoughts, Jack.
01:03:44Yeah, two things.
01:03:45First thing, we can't in general let the Trump assassination go.
01:03:50We can't let that happen.
01:03:51We can't let that the media define our narratives.
01:03:54We need to do that.
01:03:55That's why I'm here in Butler, Pennsylvania.
01:03:57We're actually talking about potentially even doing another book this year on
01:04:02this very topic, which is kind of insane to do two books in one year.
01:04:05But why not?
01:04:06And as far as fake Kamala, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake Kamala, you know, all
01:04:13I have to say is, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
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01:05:54Tyler, final thoughts.
01:05:56Yeah.
01:05:57If I was a member of the media, I would be so embarrassed of myself and
01:06:01my profession that my entire workplace hasn't asked Kamala a single
01:06:07question since she's got in.
01:06:09And that, to me, would make me want to quit, learn to code, do something
01:06:14different, something more productive with society.
01:06:16Because if you can't ask the nominee for one of the two major parties a
01:06:20single question for vetting before they go to the convention, what's the
01:06:25point of even having journalists?
01:06:27And speaking of, she has like 92% staff turnover and always has.
01:06:32We got every single tell-all from like, we're getting people who are JD
01:06:36Vance's college classmates leaking emails.
01:06:40You'd mean to tell me that there can't be journalists who find every single
01:06:43person who's ever worked for Kamala and none of them have anything to say,
01:06:47none of them have maybe had a bad enough experience they might actually dump
01:06:51on her now?
01:06:52I don't believe it.
01:06:53And Charlie, this is just a reminder that we have to do the work to win in
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01:07:30Blake, final thoughts.
01:07:33She's fake.
01:07:34I just, I refuse to believe that we are so far gone that everyone is just
01:07:38going to fall for the Kamala spell.
01:07:41She's fake.
01:07:42She is bad.
01:07:43She's a crappy boss.
01:07:44She has failed her way upward every step of her life.
01:07:47I do not.
01:07:48I do not think that the United States is ready to have a Peter principle
01:07:52president.
01:07:53We are not going to promote this non-entity into the chair that George
01:07:59Washington's butt sat in.
01:08:04She's also a communist.
01:08:06And that too.
01:08:07Yeah.
01:08:08Thank you guys.
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