The Secret Service Has A New Leader, Same As The Old Leader (Ep. 2295) - 07/26/2024 - video Dailymotion

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00:00I want to welcome back to the show a former colleague of mine, a friend, a good guy, a

00:04very talented agent during his time with the Secret Service.

00:08Former agent with the Secret Service, Charles Chuck Marino.

00:11Chuck, welcome back to the show, we appreciate it.

00:13Hey, Dan, thanks for having me.

00:16Of course, you've been doing some really excellent and honest commentary, folks, on this, and

00:21I think a lot of the working agents you and I worked with really appreciate it.

00:26Because Chuck, I think you, as well as I, are getting a ton of emails from both formers

00:31and active agents that are absolutely horrified by this apocalyptic abomination of a security

00:37failure.

00:38And just to be clear, from guys like you and I, who have not been part of security failures

00:42like this, thankfully, there's no excuse for this.

00:45This is just an abject failure.

00:49You know, Dan, you're right, and I've got to tell you what's blowing my mind is this,

00:54that building was outside the security perimeter.

00:58And I think it's been bad messaging from the start, from the former director of the Secret

01:03Service, because threats like that are what drive the established perimeters.

01:09So you and I both know, you walk out there, you say, this building's too close, it's got

01:14a line of sight.

01:15You know what?

01:16That's in our perimeter, and we're going to secure it accordingly.

01:19Instead of making it sound like it was just left up in the air, you know, for the cops

01:24to come up with their own plan to secure it.

01:27And that's, you know, ever since that description, it's been breaking bad for the service.

01:31Yeah.

01:32Talking to Chuck Marino, former Secret Service agent.

01:35Chuck, I heard you on Fox providing that commentary this morning, and I was at the table, pounding

01:40the table like, yes, the threat determines the security asset allocation, not the other

01:46way around.

01:48The counter-sniper unit of the Secret Service recognizes threats out to roughly 1,000 yards,

01:55which a super-competent sniper in a ghillie suit could pull off.

01:59You're 100% correct.

02:00We don't just go, well, it's kind of hot, and that building's 130 yards, but whatever,

02:06man.

02:07Like, Alicia Silverstone and Clueless, like, that's not what we do.

02:11But let me ask you one question here as well.

02:13Again, you haven't done hundreds of advances yourself.

02:17The advance agent, as you well know, is at the site way before the protectee shows up.

02:23So whoever the advance agent is that day, is there hours before Donald Trump arrives

02:29on the scene.

02:30What me as a former agent, I think you were kind of curious about as well, want to put

02:35words in your mouth, if the advance agent was there that day and knew this was a threat,

02:39there's going to be some CSU and CS vulnerability assessment that's going to show that that

02:44line of sight in that particular building was a threat from an elevation standpoint,

02:48then how the hell did they let the site go unmanned?

02:52Even if they agreed that it was a local post, which I hear they agreed, and they said, oh,

02:57it's too hot, then why not come up with a different strategy, like, hey, you know what,

03:02we'll rotate poststanders in and out to make sure nobody goes up there.

03:06Or Chuck, things you and I have done, like, we'll block the line of sight to at least

03:10make sure they can't see Donald Trump on the stage.

03:12There were other ways to fix this.

03:15It's like they forgot about the effective implementation part, right, to go check on

03:21things that are supposed to be posted by state and local law enforcement.

03:25Look, if it's not being covered to the satisfaction of that site agent, then he's got to fix it

03:30and he's got to fix it quick.

03:33But this should all be done well in advance.

03:34As you said, this should all be coordinated, the lines of communication, everything that

03:39you and I are hearing today about, you know, no communication between state and local law

03:44enforcement, this finger pointing, which is bad for all agencies.

03:49None of this should happen.

03:51This would have taken, you know, us five minutes to say that building is a threat.

03:56Here's what we're going to do.

03:57It better be posted.

03:59And I'm going to be back here the morning of the event.

04:01And I'm going to check on it and keep checking on it.

04:04Yeah.

04:05Talking to Chuck Marino, former Secret Service agent with a lot of experience in this.

04:09Chuck, that that segues nicely to my next question.

04:13You know, you and I both know that security is treated as a three dimensional bubble,

04:18not a circle on a piece of paper that that moves with the protectee.

04:23So 360 degree, three dimensional security bubbles mean above and below.

04:27That's a serious issue in New York, where if the president's walking on the street,

04:31there's a train station below.

04:33We might man that.

04:34We have NYPD down there, but we also always keep assets overhead for a number of reasons.

04:40You want to make sure a plane doesn't crash into the site.

04:42It's not like that's happened before.

04:44I mean, I say sarcastic.

04:45I mean, this stuff has actually happened.

04:47How in the hell did the air security branch not have a hundred dollar drone up there or

04:55a FLIR or a Huntsman or something just to look down on the site and say, hey, we got

05:00a guy on the roof who shouldn't be there.

05:02I mean, this is inexcusable to not have eyeballs in the sky.

05:05Look, my understanding is they've got a program.

05:11Field offices have the tools to deploy.

05:15And so why this technology wasn't deployed and used the Secret Service is going to have

05:20to explain.

05:22But it's unacceptable, especially the airspace needs to be closed.

05:26That needs to be ensured.

05:27Look, former President Trump is a high enough level on the threat assessment scale to be

05:35practically equivalent to the president of the United States based on actions that he

05:40took during his presidency against state actors like Iran and his visibility and policy decisions

05:48now.

05:49So look, give him the highest level of protection.

05:52The airspace needs to be closed.

05:55Drone mitigation needs to be a part of the plan.

05:57And for anything less, it's inexcusable.

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07:07Talking to Chuck Marino, former Secret Service agent.

07:09Chuck, one of the questions I find baffling, which still we have not been given a candid,

07:15honest answer on, is from multiple sources that are feeding me and others information,

07:21the Secret Service knew between 15 and 20 minutes out conclusively, I would say it's

07:26probably earlier, but let's just work with that timeline for now because that's enough.

07:31About 15 or 20 minutes out that there was an unmitigated threat out there, a man outside

07:36what they claim is their secure perimeter roaming around range finder backpack.

07:42I mean, these are all furtive type suspicious movements which should have stopped President

07:47Trump to protect you that day from walking out on stage.

07:50There's a room at these sites called the holding room everybody knows about.

07:53The president goes there to hold when there's a threat.

07:56I can't think of one possible reason why this wasn't relayed to the shift to say, hey, just

08:02keep them in the limo, keep them in the truck or keep them in the holding room until we

08:08can figure out what's going on.

08:09I mean, it's not like the networks weren't going to wait a few minutes on these speeches.

08:13They're late all the time.

08:14Yeah.

08:15You know, we're starting to see with this significant failure in the plan.

08:19All the other cracks starting to be exposed.

08:23And we're going to see it significantly in communications in that area.

08:28Like me, I can't figure it out because as you and I both know, this is nothing elaborate.

08:33It's the counterpart system literally sitting side by side with law enforcement agencies

08:39that are participating in the security plan.

08:42So for the life of me, like you, I still can't figure out how the communication didn't flow

08:47here in this situation.

08:50But you're right.

08:51Yeah.

08:52Should have never gone the stage with based on the timing that you're saying.

08:56And you're right.

08:57It was probably longer.

08:58Yeah.

08:59I'm sorry to mean interrupt.

09:01Yeah.

09:02I'm having a tough time because people like you and I did this for a living.

09:05I was on my friend Glenn, Glenn Beck show this morning.

09:08You know, Glenn has no Secret Service experience whatsoever.

09:11And Chuck, he's asking questions that both guys like you and me can't I can't answer

09:16without attributing to malice or stupidity.

09:19I really can't find an option C and it's driving me bananas.

09:24Let me ask you another question.

09:26So there are friends of ours who I think you and I both know there is a significant email

09:31trail here about security requests for enhancements to the Donald Trump detail, the DTD.

09:36Right. There's an email trail.

09:38There have been there have been white papers out there.

09:40I have this on good authority, let's just say.

09:43You know, what I found bizarre was former director, thankfully, Kim Cheadle's testimony

09:47under oath yesterday trying to evade this basic question.

09:51I mean, if you're going to take responsibility and I, quote, say the buck stops here, which

09:55is what she did, then part of it is to say, hey, listen, we failed.

09:59There were requests for security enhancements in the past.

10:02We denied them.

10:03These repeated denials probably led to a failure to request them anymore.

10:08I mean, if I'm telling you a thousand times I need antiviral protection, you say, no,

10:12my computer gets hacked.

10:13You don't have any easy excuse.

10:14You should have said yes.

10:15I mean, she really she she's was risking perjury yesterday with some of these dangerous answers.

10:22Well, that was a train wreck yesterday and again, not being transparent with members

10:28of Congress, you know, giving two interviews, leaking the opening statement, none of this

10:34was good and certainly not in the spirit of the Secret Service, for sure, which is why

10:40she's now the former director.

10:42But look, this happened on her watch.

10:44She's got to take responsibility for all of this.

10:47And if there were numerous requests, which you and I know there were, then she should

10:52have articulated why they were denied that.

10:56That's not part of the investigation by the bureau right now.

10:59They're looking at the assassination attempt.

11:01She could have freely spoke about this and said, here was the decision I made.

11:05I denied it.

11:06I stood by it.

11:08And here's why.

11:09But she didn't even do that.

11:10Which tells me she knows it was the wrong decision.

11:14And I'm hoping for the life of me, it wasn't a political decision.

11:18Oh, gosh, I'm hoping to talk to Chuck Marino, former Secret Service agent, former colleague

11:24and a friend.

11:25Chuck, last question.

11:26And I'd like to get your take on this.

11:27And you may not agree.

11:28And that's fine.

11:29I'm asking you candidly and seriously, because I like your answer.

11:32I think one of the problems with the Secret Service right now is this commingled investigative

11:37mission.

11:38I get it.

11:39The history of the Secret Service with counterfeiting.

11:41I understand the whole thing.

11:42There's been this ethos in the past, this mythological story.

11:45We tell each other that, oh, my gosh, it makes people better protection agents.

11:48No, protection makes people better protection agents.

11:51I don't play football to become a better baseball player.

11:53The Secret Service needs a field office system.

11:56But the Secret Service, you don't have to transfer everyone to a protection detail.

11:59You'd probably lose everyone.

12:00But you could keep them in the field doing threat cases, critical infrastructure analysis.

12:05I mean, you know, we have firemen some days who, you know, they don't have a fire.

12:09They don't go start a fire because they're there to be reactive to a fire that I think

12:14we need to dump this investigative mission.

12:16It's creating way too many problems with the travel rotation.

12:20You know, court cases for people.

12:22We need these guys dedicated to this mission.

12:24We've seen what happens when we fail.

12:26Your thoughts on that?

12:28I agree with you 100 percent.

12:30And I'll say it a different way.

12:32You can't complain that you're constantly being asked to do more with less and keep

12:38raising your left hand up asking for more.

12:41Look, you're not going to get this type of coverage for screwing up a counterfeit

12:45investigation. You and I both know that protection is where it's at.

12:50It's the number one priority of the Secret Service.

12:53They're the best in the world at it and they need to keep doing that.

12:56So they've got to focus their attention, all their resources on protection related

13:03functions. I agree with you.

13:04Protective intelligence, critical infrastructure, technical security, all of that

13:11stuff. But it's got the foundation has to be protection going forward and give those

13:18investigations back to Treasury or wherever else.

13:23Really, I don't use the Lord's name in vain, but thank God, because I'm glad a smart

13:27guy like yourself, who I believe in and trust and work with, feels the same way we did.

13:32This does not mean guys will be on 24 hour protection.

13:35It just means we will focus exclusively on threat cases, critical infrastructure, things

13:41directly related to the protective function.

13:43And you're right. We can't keep raising our hand going, we'll take NSSEs, National

13:47Special Security Vets. Oh, we'll take e-crimes, electronic crimes.

13:51You're right. You can't make both arguments.

13:53Hey, we're doing too much. Hey, give us more.

13:55It doesn't work that way. Chuck Marino, you've been fantastic.

13:58Follow him, Charles Marino on Axies.

14:00Had some really, really super insightful commentary.

14:04You see him on Fox, on cable news.

14:06Just really great work.

14:07Chuck, thanks for telling the truth.

14:08I'm getting a lot of feedback from mutual friends who appreciate you being an honest

14:12voice, man. We got to fix this thing and not just complain about it.

14:14Thanks for your time. We appreciate it.

14:16Well, likewise, you too, Dan.

14:17Thanks. You're the best.

14:18Thank you. You got it, buddy.

14:20I work with that guy, folks.

14:21That guy's legit.

14:22I'm telling you, there are good guys who really, really are absolutely 100 percent

14:27committed to fixing this apocalyptic security failure.

14:31They are embarrassed.

14:32They are horrified.

14:34If I could, I would read you the hundreds,

14:39more than hundreds of texts from people I've worked with in law enforcement

14:43in the service who are.

14:45Absolutely, I don't even have the words, the modifiers and adjectives and adverbs

14:49to describe how disgusted they are about what happened.

14:53Fix it or someone's going to die.

14:57Someone did die.

14:59Corey, compare it to her.

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