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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum and good evening, I am Meher Bukhari.
00:14Former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto claims to bury martial law forever.
00:18I will not take a dictation.
00:19This is another accusation of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.
00:22He will not allow the establishment of a state within a state.
00:25Former Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani's smokey address in the National Assembly.
00:29As long as I am alive, I will follow the king of the jungle.
00:32Prisoner number 804 and former Prime Minister Imran Khan's tabla war.
00:36Whether it is Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Junejo, Nawaz Sharif, Benazir Bhutto, Yusuf Raza Gilani or Imran Khan.
00:43This is our history.
00:45Politics has been entangled with the most powerful institution in the country.
00:48But there is an open contradiction to this confusion.
00:51That the talk ended at the meetings on deal, mutual agreement and backdoor.
00:56And the consent of both parties has been the only key to political success.
01:00So these two parties are the perpetrators of the cruel system of the state.
01:04But today, for the first time, former Prime Minister Imran Khan has openly invited the army for negotiations.
01:10After a long debate, former Prime Minister Imran Khan is announcing negotiations with the army.
01:15Imran Khan said during a case of £190 million in Diyala Jail,
01:19while having an unofficial conversation with the media,
01:21that we are ready to negotiate with the army.
01:24The army should appoint their representative.
01:26The question was, why don't they negotiate with the political parties?
01:29We had given the mandate of negotiations to Mehmood Khan Achakzai.
01:32But if a name came up from the other side, we would have talked.
01:36Imran Khan further replied, who is Mohsin Naqvi?
01:39There is a non-declaration of martial law in the country.
01:42And Mohsin Naqvi is his representative.
01:44He came here through him.
01:46The journalist asked again, you say that Mohsin Naqvi is his representative.
01:49If Mohsin Naqvi is given the authority to negotiate, will you negotiate?
01:54Khan said, I will never talk to Mohsin Naqvi.
01:57He met with IG Punjab and tortured our people.
02:00He is responsible for the death of Zill-e-Shah.
02:03Imran Khan said that the first demand for negotiations is to return the stolen mandate.
02:08The second demand for negotiations is the end of the release of the detainees and the cases.
02:13And the third demand is to save the country.
02:15Which is not possible without a clear election.
02:18Mulana Fazlur-e-Maa is talking about the third mandate.
02:22Khan said today that we have never accused the army.
02:26But we have only criticized.
02:29And then Bani PTI said that if there is a spoiled child in the house, it is criticized.
02:37Criticism on the army was done because criticism is the beauty of democracy.
02:40The journalist asked again, it seems that you want to fix the matter with the army.
02:47But you have accused the same army and its leaders.
02:51The answer came, I have never accused the army.
02:54I have only criticized.
02:56Don't teach us that the army has never made a mistake.
02:59General Zia was behind Zulfiqar-e-Bhutto's punishment.
03:02General Yaya Khan was behind the silence of Dhaka.
03:05You will be cruel if you stop criticizing the army.
03:08Viewers, 17 July 2023, 7 June 2024, 1 July 2024.
03:14Tariq-e-Insaab has proposed negotiations several times.
03:18Tariq-e-Insaab's position has always been that they will talk to those who have the power.
03:23Imran Khan has also formed a three-member committee on opposition leadership in the Senate.
03:33Imran Khan's position has always been in favor of negotiations.
03:37And the attitude has always been on the side of the army.
03:41In the harsh words of 9-1-1, he is accused.
03:43In the promise to deal with the responsibilities of 9-1-1,
03:47even on the relief that Imran Khan received from the court,
03:50the army's severe criticism.
03:52DGISPR made it clear in a few words that negotiations cannot be talked about.
03:57If a political thought, a political leader, and a political party attack their own army,
04:04create hatred and animosity between the people and the army,
04:08then no one will talk to him.
04:10There is only one way for such a political party to apologize to the people with a sincere heart
04:16and promise to leave the politics of hatred and enter the politics of construction.
04:22The only condition for negotiations from the side of the army was forgiveness.
04:26In response, Imran Khan said that he should apologize to him.
04:30But in our program, Senior Renuma was also present.
04:33Asad Qaisar said that he never apologized to his father.
04:37May Allah forgive me.
04:39If I don't apologize to my father, how can I apologize to anyone else?
04:42I don't want to talk to anyone.
04:44Neither will I talk to anyone, nor will I talk to anyone.
04:48Imran Khan himself has also admitted that he wants to talk,
04:51but there is no positive answer from the other side.
04:53So the point is that what is new in Imran Khan's negotiations,
04:58which can bring both parties to the negotiating table.
05:01Today, on the side of the government,
05:03Mr. Farrikin's negotiations were presented as a film titled,
05:07Talk to me.
05:10A trailer was run in this country that I will not leave anyone.
05:14And after that, a new film has come,
05:16in the name of Please talk to me.
05:18And the demands you are making today,
05:20it has been proven that when the institution became neutral,
05:23after that you are asking for your support and saying that my support should be given.
05:28You don't understand that sometimes you hold the collar, sometimes you hold your feet.
05:31How does this journey happen all of a sudden?
05:33Now it is being tried that the institution of the army should be involved in politics for its political interests.
05:40The second part of Imran Khan's conversation is related to the rejection of accusations.
05:44Khan says that his party has never accused the army.
05:47Rather, we have only criticized.
05:49If there is a spoiled child in the house, then criticism is done on it.
05:52It is surprising.
05:53Former Prime Minister Imran Khan,
05:56took part in the election.
05:57Big accusations have been put on the establishment to kill.
06:01These accusations started with General Bajwa.
06:03He was rewarded with the title of traitor, Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq, and the United States of America.
06:08After the murderous attack, Imran Khan,
06:10Prime Minister Shabashiri, Prime Minister Rana Sanaullah,
06:12and a senior intelligence officer,
06:14He was held responsible for their attempt to kill.
06:16And he also demanded resignation.
06:18On March 18, Imran Khan,
06:20about the incidents in the Islamabad judicial complex,
06:23Imran Khan said that the killers were set up outside the judicial complex to kill them.
06:27And they were planned to kill.
06:29What was the purpose of the ISI people's presence there?
06:32And what was their job in the judicial complex?
06:34If Shabashiri can answer these questions truthfully,
06:38Then only one powerful person from all of them,
06:41And his companions will get a clue.
06:43Which is above all laws.
06:45Then, on April 17, 2024,
06:48Imran Khan further said that the law of the king of the jungle will be proven by the Bhawalnagar incident.
06:52As long as I am alive, I will not leave Asim Munir.
06:55In today's conversation, the former Prime Minister said that
06:58What should we do with the government?
07:00People's Party and Unleague both have forms of 47.
07:02The government has only one purpose.
07:04That the PTI and the army should be fought and our Jamaat should be finished.
07:07Both these Jamaats are drowning in the sea.
07:10And hanging on the support of shoes.
07:12On which the 9th of May tag has been put.
07:14Imran Khan called Maryam Nawaz a fascist.
07:17And said that she is living on the money of her father's theft.
07:19Like a princess.
07:21Maryam Nawaz has kept I.G. Punjab for this.
07:24Because she has oppressed the PTI.
07:26In the same way, the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court,
07:28Regarding Justice Aamir Farooq,
07:30Khan had to say that I have filed a reference against the Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court, Aamir Farooq.
07:35Justice Aamir Farooq wanted to trap me in the Tarian case.
07:39Why does Aamir Farooq listen to all the cases of me and Ahliya?
07:42I was kidnapped from the judicial complex.
07:45So Justice Aamir Farooq declared him right.
07:47Justice Aamir Farooq has been requested to leave my cases under the principles of justice.
07:52There are other judges in the High Court.
07:54Give the cases to someone else.
07:56In this environment of negotiations,
07:59Bushra Bibi has been nominated as a convict in 11 cases including GHQ attack.
08:03Viewers, in Islamabad High Court,
08:05The details of the cases against Bushra Bibi have been presented.
08:09Bushra Bibi has been nominated as a convict in the Army Museum, GHQ Gate 4 attack case,
08:14Hassas military building in Sadr Cantt,
08:16Hassas office attack on Murree Road,
08:19In different areas,
08:20Jalao, Ghirao, Tod, Pod, Thana, Aare Bazaar,
08:22Civil, Lines, Neotown, City, Waris Khan,
08:26and Taxila police station cases.
08:28At any time, Bushra Bibi can be arrested in these cases.
08:32And the investigation officers of all the police stations
08:36are going to turn to the court for physical remand soon.
08:42Let's take a short break.
08:43After the break, we will talk to the famous journalist and commentator,
08:46Sohail Wadaich and Habib Akram.
08:47Stay with us.
08:53In this regard, we will talk to the famous journalist and commentator,
08:57Sohail Wadaich and Habib Akram.
08:59Thank you both.
09:00Mr. Wadaich, I will start with you.
09:01Mr. Kimran Khan has once again announced negotiations with the army in the court
09:05without formal talks with the journalists.
09:09But the important thing is that now he is demanding
09:11that the army appoint a representative from its side.
09:13What makes you think that the army will appoint its own representative?
09:19Look, the first thing is that in the history of the entire Pakistan,
09:24the army's negotiations have been with the politicians.
09:28But never did those negotiations come forward.
09:32No one ever appointed a representative.
09:35And there was never any coverage of those negotiations.
09:39Even if these negotiations have been held,
09:42then in the darkness of the night,
09:44or in a place where the press is far away,
09:49and there is a back cover.
09:51Because the army's role is not allowed in the political arena.
09:56And you know that Brigadier General Imtiaz,
10:00General Asad Durrani and General Javed Nasser,
10:04they were dismissed from the army because they had a role in politics.
10:11And when there was a discussion about it in the army,
10:15they all had to resign from their jobs.
10:19That they do meetings,
10:22or General Javed Nasser,
10:24that he flew a helicopter over the Jerusalem of Nawaz Sharif.
10:29So this means that the army can never do this.
10:34And if they ever do it illegally,
10:37or whatever their national interests may be,
10:42even if it happens, it is a back cover.
10:44Like the meeting in London.
10:46Because they can be arrested by the law if they do this.
10:50So this is neither possible legally, nor politically.
10:56So that's why this demand is wrong.
10:59The second thing is that the army has definitely played a role in the back cover.
11:03And it has been very powerful.
11:05The governments have changed.
11:07The governments have brought it.
11:09There is no doubt about it.
11:11But there is an illusion.
11:13And the law and the regulations,
11:17that illusion is kept in it.
11:19The back cover of that illusion is not checked.
11:22The Pentagon is probably still the most powerful institution in America.
11:28But they also run the Pentagon in general.
11:33But there is an illusion that first they have to get approval from the President.
11:38Then they have to make a decision.
11:40So if they reject one proposal, they send another.
11:45Similarly, even in Pakistan, although we know that it does a lot of things,
11:52but this illusion should be maintained.
11:54And the first condition is that there should be negotiations with the politicians.
12:00All the big political positive developments in Pakistan
12:05have been made through negotiations between politicians.
12:11Whether it is the 1973 Act, whether it is the 18th Amendment, whether it is the Charter of Democracy,
12:18whether it is the changes of the caretakers in the Act, or other changes.
12:23Ultimately, the army sometimes has reservations on these things.
12:29They had reservations on the NFC.
12:31They had reservations on the 18th Amendment.
12:33But in the end, the army has to accept that
12:37the consensus that develops politically has to be accepted.
12:42The Charter of Democracy was made.
12:44Obviously, the army had reservations.
12:46We all know that they had reservations.
12:48But for 10 years, democracy continued under that system.
12:52And then ultimately, when Imran Khan rose,
12:55then the system that the Charter of Democracy had developed, it broke.
13:01Therefore, this is a very humble request.
13:05While living in the framework of a constitution and a democracy,
13:08we absolutely need to have negotiations with the establishment.
13:12No problem. They are also our own.
13:14And negotiate with them.
13:16But these negotiations in the middle,
13:20this is a joke of the constitution.
13:22This is a joke of democracy.
13:24You used to meet as Prime Minister.
13:28You used to meet even before that.
13:30But don't make such demands in the middle.
13:34And even if you have a slight consensus with the politicians,
13:39that consensus ultimately has to be accepted by everyone.
13:42Even now, you are sitting in the Assembly.
13:44And you have raised your voice.
13:46So you have accepted this government.
13:48You take part in the assembly proceedings every day.
13:52The Prime Minister is also sitting there.
13:55The Speaker of Farm 47 is also sitting there.
13:58And you also have meetings with him every day.
14:01So in a way, when you have become a part of the system,
14:04and it is a good thing that you have not rebelled against the system,
14:07then accept the rest of the things.
14:09You can sit with them.
14:11You can also decide the basic things with them.
14:16So what is the problem?
14:17But Mr. Sohail Varaiyat,
14:18what you are saying is that let a religion remain
14:20and don't do this work.
14:22So, let's talk about open negotiations.
14:25So, isn't there a reason behind this transparency?
14:28That Imran Khan doesn't want an accusation of any deal.
14:31That's why open people are making this proposal.
14:34Look, the request is that,
14:36we know that in Pakistan,
14:39acceptance and acceptance go hand in hand.
14:43But, and obviously, we also know that
14:46if the establishment gets angry,
14:48then it becomes difficult for that government to survive.
14:51And whenever a government is coming,
14:54we also know that there are secret negotiations.
14:57There will be conditions on Benazir as well.
14:59There will be conditions on Nawaz Sharif as well.
15:02It is possible that when Imran Khan came,
15:04there were negotiations before him as well.
15:06Now that Shahbaz Sharif has come,
15:08it is possible that there were negotiations before him as well.
15:11But if you do this in the middle,
15:14then is it possible that the constitution,
15:17which is a consensus document,
15:20and on which the army has taken a stand,
15:23and on which the politicians also take a stand,
15:26won't there be an open dissent?
15:28And the second thing is that
15:30Imran Khan doesn't consider other politicians equal to him.
15:34That's why, as the Prime Minister,
15:36you remember when he had to meet the opposition,
15:39he used to get up and leave.
15:41So, to digest your opponent,
15:44to accommodate him,
15:47he is not a non-believer.
15:49You go and shake hands with the Prime Minister of India,
15:52and the opposition political parties of Pakistan,
15:55you don't even want to sit with them.
15:58So, this is not appropriate.
16:01How can we call this a democratic,
16:04constitutional attitude?
16:06Okay, you don't like that.
16:08It is possible that his election is also suspicious.
16:13But we have seen that sometimes you have to negotiate with the Taliban.
16:18Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah,
16:21and Gandhi,
16:23Gandhi, who was British,
16:25he considered them to be the rulers.
16:28But he negotiated with them.
16:30As a result of those negotiations,
16:32India became free.
16:34As a result of those negotiations,
16:36Pakistan became free.
16:38You always negotiate with those you don't even believe in.
16:43Because the culture,
16:45the consciousness of centuries,
16:47this is what he has taught us.
17:17We should keep in mind that there have been such jokes in the past.
17:32They were a little hidden,
17:35but no one knew about it.
17:38For example, there were jokes between Benazir Bhutto and General Musharraf.
17:44The last result of that joke was in the form of NRO.
17:50And that NRO later went to court and flew away.
17:53It was made a law.
17:55So this joke is nothing new.
17:58Between the army and political parties.
18:02Here the question arises,
18:04who is the team in this matter?
18:09If you look at it,
18:11the situation is that
18:13the PMLQ, which was associated with General Musharraf,
18:19is also associated with the current government alliance.
18:27So when such a situation arises,
18:30that in a party or in a group of parties,
18:34if its political power is not enough for it to make its own decision,
18:40then it is obvious to talk to it.
18:42It is not appropriate.
18:44Because it ends up being useless.
18:47Sir, excuse me,
18:49because you are drawing parallels and correlations,
18:52BB never threatened Musharraf,
18:54nor did he say the king of the jungle,
18:56nor did he threaten that I will follow him alive,
18:59I will do it till the last breath.
19:01Neither did Dirty Harry say it,
19:03so there is a background to this.
19:05But the other party on the other side of the table,
19:08the PTI has already elected,
19:10but they themselves do not seem to be happy.
19:12Now this step can definitely be negated by the democracy,
19:15but this is also the biggest truth of politics,
19:17which you are saying,
19:18that the talk is going on,
19:19and it is going on with a strong team.
19:21But sir, how will they agree to the negotiations?
19:26Whenever you try to negotiate,
19:29there are a lot of complications along the way.
19:32I will give you an example of that.
19:34When in the beginning of 2023,
19:37some attempts were made to negotiate,
19:40for example, in one attempt,
19:42Sohail Barait Sahib himself was also involved,
19:45which was done by the journalists,
19:47and Sohail Barait Sahib also went to Imran Khan Sahib,
19:50and he must have definitely contacted different people.
19:53So what happened the next day?
19:55Coming out, talking to the press,
19:58that yes, Imran Khan Sahib,
20:00Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
20:01we are ready to talk,
20:03we have given our message to the journalists,
20:06the civil society is giving its message
20:08that this tension should be reduced.
20:10You can see that the next day,
20:12or maybe two days after that,
20:14the police reached Imran Khan's house properly,
20:17and there was another drama there,
20:20and such other actions took place.
20:22Even before that,
20:23it happened many times that
20:25whenever jokes were made by the PTI,
20:28the Punjab Police used to be attacked.
20:32So such things,
20:33that is, obstacles will keep coming,
20:35but now these obstacles have to be removed.
20:38So first of all,
20:39at least one team should openly say
20:41that I have to make jokes.
20:43After that,
20:44obviously, jokes have to be made,
20:46when one team is openly saying,
20:48then it will be their responsibility
20:50to create a suitable environment for jokes.
20:52Now the most painful thing
20:54for Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
20:57is that the workers of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
21:00are sitting on social media
21:02or when they talk on social media,
21:04they criticize our institutions mercilessly,
21:07and that criticism sometimes
21:09seems to touch the limits of hatred.
21:12So now this means that
21:14when Imran Khan said
21:16that I am ready to make jokes,
21:18then to create an atmosphere for it
21:20or at least to cool that wave
21:22that is under their influence,
21:25then this too is done by Imran Khan.
21:27Now you have raised a very important point.
21:29But sir, the problem is that
21:31Mr. Sohail Warraich,
21:33to create an atmosphere,
21:35but there is also a desire to make jokes,
21:37but the army is also being given
21:39a warning from a spoiled child at home.
21:41Along with that,
21:42what should we talk to the government?
21:44He is also a Dukhda in his place,
21:46that he does not have anything in his hands.
21:48But sir,
21:49this strategy is working,
21:50showing you,
21:51will softness come from this?
21:53Will it come from the establishment?
21:56I do not think
21:57that there will be any success in this.
22:00And although it is our prayer
22:02that all political parties
22:04participate in the country's situation.
22:07If there is any injustice
22:09with justice,
22:10then there should be a claim for it.
22:13But to criticize someone like this,
22:18you think every day
22:20that I am the biggest,
22:22I am the biggest.
22:24So I think
22:25things don't work like this.
22:27Sometimes you have to respect
22:29the one who is younger than you.
22:31And if you give respect,
22:33then maybe he will also agree.
22:35So this attitude is not right.
22:37We have reached here
22:39from this attitude.
22:41Because of this attitude,
22:429th May has happened.
22:43Because of this attitude,
22:45things are bad.
22:46But he is the most popular.
22:48The one who is accepted in the world,
22:50he is the leader.
22:52So if these things were not there,
22:56then maybe he would still be the Prime Minister.
22:59And we would be criticizing the Prime Minister
23:01for other reasons.
23:03But Habib,
23:04the problem is that
23:06he says that I have never accused,
23:08I have only criticized.
23:10Although, sir,
23:11we see that the reality
23:13tells us something else,
23:15ground reality.
23:16Imran Khan,
23:17to bring down his government,
23:18to kill him,
23:19to kill him,
23:20he has made a lot of accusations
23:21on the establishment.
23:22Ghadar, Mir Jafar, Mir Saad,
23:23one of the allies of America,
23:24I mean the list goes on and on.
23:26Even after the murderous attack,
23:28he had held the senior intelligence
23:30personnel responsible for this.
23:32And if you remember,
23:33even in the Islamabad Judicial Complex,
23:35regarding the incident,
23:36he had taken the names of the agencies
23:38and said that
23:39they were present here to kill me.
23:41What was their job here?
23:42Behind this,
23:43there is only one most powerful person.
23:45And then the king of the jungle
23:47and his law,
23:48he mentioned it again and again.
23:50And then he said,
23:51as long as I am alive,
23:52I will not leave Asim Munir.
23:53These are not accusations,
23:54these are criticisms, sir.
23:56Mehar,
23:57whatever the accusations are,
23:59or whatever it is,
24:00actually,
24:01it is in a special context in politics.
24:03And we have seen that
24:05its context actually
24:07started in April 2022.
24:10The series of events
24:12that started in April 2022
24:16stopped in such a way,
24:18turned in such a way,
24:20in which the accusations
24:21kept increasing on both sides.
24:23And about each other,
24:25it was even said that
24:27even today,
24:28people refer to the words of Wali Khan,
24:30when he advised Haq Sahib
24:32that there is one grave
24:34and there are two people.
24:36So,
24:37to keep increasing the fight
24:39or to reduce the fight?
24:41Now,
24:42if all these things are remembered,
24:44then for both the previous parties,
24:47everyone will have some justification.
24:50Someone will say that
24:51he did this first,
24:52so I said this.
24:54And then someone will say
24:56that he said this,
24:57so we said this.
24:59He did this,
25:00so we made him say it.
25:02Then see,
25:03everyone has their own,
25:05the unpleasant situation
25:07of that action,
25:08in which both acted and reacted.
25:10Everyone will have their own justification in that.
25:13But the question is,
25:14do we have to stand there
25:16or move forward?
25:18Sir, we will stand behind
25:20and start answering each and every question.
25:23That sir,
25:24you did this,
25:25so now you apologize for it.
25:27So what is the solution, Habib Akram?
25:29Briefly,
25:30what is the solution?
25:31The solution is
25:32that we turn a new page.
25:34And we are getting the chance
25:36to turn that page,
25:38that at least one team
25:40has openly,
25:41publicly said,
25:42that they are ready to do Mazaak-e-Raat.
25:45This is a window.
25:47See,
25:48if we look at it
25:49in terms of victory and defeat,
25:51then it will be a very bad thing.
25:53I think,
25:54we will not do a proper analysis
25:56in the light of Pakistan's politics.
25:58If we look at it,
25:59in terms of Mazaak-e-Raat,
26:01it is not a question of victory and defeat.
26:03In terms of Mazaak-e-Raat,
26:04we have to normalize the situation.
26:06This is its real purpose.
26:08And Suhail Wadaid sir,
26:10in your opinion,
26:11what is the solution to this?
26:12See,
26:13I have a personal view
26:14of what should happen.
26:16So,
26:17I have been saying this
26:18for the past one and a half years,
26:20that equality is the only way.
26:22There is no way out of fights.
26:25Nor has there ever been any
26:27division of countries.
26:29Or anarchy spreads,
26:31or blood flows.
26:34So,
26:35both of these things are not right.
26:36We have seen that
26:37whenever Pakistan has gone to a positive limit,
26:39there has been a conflict.
26:41Wali Khan and Bhutto
26:43sat together.
26:45Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
26:46Maulana Mufti Mehmood,
26:48and the Islamic Jamaat,
26:50who were enemies of each other,
26:51sat together.
26:52And the 1973 constitution was passed.
26:54Okay?
26:55So,
26:56now,
26:57Mr. Khan is not ready to accept this.
27:00Now, on the other hand,
27:01the way the situation is going,
27:03I am afraid that
27:05there is going to be a major crisis.
27:07And,
27:08just a few days ago,
27:10I wrote that
27:11peace should be established.
27:13I am saying this again and again,
27:16that when different sects of the nation,
27:18or different institutions,
27:20have a mutual fight,
27:22then,
27:23there is a loss of the state,
27:25there is a loss of the institutions,
27:27and most of all,
27:28there is a loss of the people.
27:30So, perhaps,
27:31nothing will happen to these teams.
27:33But,
27:34the people who we are,
27:35they will be killed in a few days.
27:37There will be a loss of the state's economy.
27:39There will be a loss of the state's democracy.
27:41There will be a loss of the state's constitution.
27:43So,
27:44the basic thing is that
27:45it is not right to hold anyone responsible.
27:48But,
27:49it always happens that
27:51when there is a fight,
27:52then,
27:53one person has to show his strength.
27:55No one is ready to show his strength.
27:57So, everyone is standing in their own place.
27:59And when everyone stands,
28:00then there is a fight.
28:01So, we are going towards the fight,
28:03very soon.
28:04Habib Akram,
28:05I am asking you about two things.
28:06Is the People's Party,
28:07the Noon League,
28:08whom Mr. Khan does not want to talk to,
28:10do they have any significance in today's system?
28:13No,
28:14I do not think that
28:15they are a team.
28:16In fact,
28:17I will take a step forward and say,
28:19neither are they a team,
28:20nor are they a partner,
28:22nor are they an ally.
28:24They have nothing to do with this system.
28:27Their status is the same
28:28as that of PMLQ in 2004.
28:33Mr. Sohail Warraich,
28:34as I asked you,
28:35how is the government
28:36not aware of the serious situation?
28:38Are you disappointed
28:39with the silence of Mian Nawaz Sharif
28:41as a journalist?
28:43I am disappointed with all the politicians
28:45who can play a big role at the moment.
28:48I am disappointed with all of them.
28:50Although,
28:51I have always had expectations
28:52from the democracy and the constitution.
28:54But,
28:55when people become stubborn,
28:57when people
28:58only think that they are right,
29:01then such a situation arises,
29:04which has come here.
29:06And,
29:07this situation will increase
29:09and it will go to Saddam.
29:11Thank you very much,
29:12senior journalist Sohail Warraich.
29:14We were with you just now.
29:15We listened to your conversation.
29:16We are witnessing
29:17a serious situation
29:18and we are witnessing
29:19that the situation is getting worse.
29:20We need to be alert.
29:22Let's take a break
29:23and come back
29:24after a short break.
29:32The government has raised obstacles
29:34to the Supreme Court's decision
29:35to give specific seats to Tehreek-e-Insaf.
29:39In the National Assembly hearing,
29:41the government has presented a bill
29:42to not change the statement
29:43of the party affiliation
29:44and to not give specific seats
29:45if the specific seats
29:46are not submitted.
29:50The only purpose of this bill
29:51which was launched in a hurry
29:52is to put obstacles
29:53in the path of judicial decisions
29:54and Tehreek-e-Insaf.
29:55Two of the most important amendments
29:56have been introduced
29:57in the election act amendment bill.
29:59The first amendment
30:00to the election act
30:01was introduced in section 66
30:02and the second amendment
30:03to the election act
30:04was introduced
30:05in section 104.
30:07The first amendment
30:08states that the name
30:09of the party affiliation
30:10cannot be changed
30:11from a political party.
30:13The second amendment states
30:14that the party
30:15which has not submitted
30:16the election commission
30:17to the specific seats
30:18cannot be given
30:19specific seats.
30:21According to the amendment
30:22to the election act
30:23of 2024,
30:24both of these amendments
30:25will be implemented
30:26immediately after approval.
30:27The speaker has sent
30:28the bill to the
30:29climate committee
30:30but the opposition
30:31has protested
30:32against the bill
30:33and there have been
30:34slogans of
30:35no, no.
30:36If this bill
30:37is approved by the
30:38climate committee
30:39and is passed
30:40by Iwane Bala
30:41and Iwane Zeeri
30:42then it will become
30:43a law.
30:44We will talk about
30:45this later.
30:46We have with us
30:47Tehreek-e-Insaf's
30:48senior representative
30:49Barrister Ali Zafar.
30:50Mr. Barrister,
30:51if there is an attempt
30:52to negate the judicial
30:53decision
30:54or if there is a legal
30:55question
30:56then will this
30:57bill affect
30:58the past
30:59judicial decisions
31:00or not?
31:01These are the
31:02most important
31:03amendments.
31:04To what extent
31:05are you concerned?
31:06Look,
31:07you are
31:08absolutely
31:09correct
31:10that
31:11they have
31:12almost
31:13become
31:14confused
31:15after this
31:16judgment.
31:17First,
31:18they tried
31:19to ban
31:20PTI
31:21which we
31:22all saw
31:23was not
31:24possible
31:25and
31:26was
31:27a
31:28foolish
31:29thing
31:30so
31:31they
31:32dropped
31:33it.
31:34After that
31:35they have
31:36the right
31:37to appeal
31:38not appeal
31:39but
31:40review
31:41but
31:42they know
31:43that
31:4499%
31:45of the
31:46chances
31:47are
31:48that
31:49it
31:50will
31:51not
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