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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:18Pakistan's power and politics have gone into a dead end.
00:21And I have used the word power and politics wisely.
00:24I did not say national politics, I did not say democratic politics or politics for people.
00:30The thing is that now only the corridors of power are being decided.
00:34And now it seems that everyone is getting completely out of options.
00:39We saw this protest.
00:41After the protest, the government is in a state of victory.
00:44They think that we have conquered PTI, we did not let them come to Islamabad.
00:48When they came, we beat them and drove them away.
00:50On the other hand, Imran Khan's strictness has not started.
00:53Seven cases have been filed.
00:55Today, his brother-in-law came after the jail.
00:57He was told that he was kept in the cell for 50 hours.
01:00Newspapers were also closed.
01:02Television facilities were also taken back.
01:05Then we are hearing a lot of harsh things.
01:07Yesterday, when Imran Khan gave his statements, he spoke to the journalists.
01:11Yesterday, he again addressed the Army Chief in the address of General Dyer.
01:16Today, General Yahya has said two.
01:18Although we saw that when Bushra Bibi gave her video statement, it was also very interesting.
01:25Three parties have been formed in this conflict in today's situation.
01:29There is an establishment, there is a government.
01:32No matter what you call it, there is a government.
01:35The third is Imran Khan.
01:37But it is very interesting.
01:39First see what statement Bushra Bibi gave a few days ago.
01:43I want to say to the viewers that it is completely wrong that Khan will take revenge from someone.
01:50Maybe this message does not reach you.
01:53Khan said that coming to power and taking revenge from someone means that Allah is angry.
01:58And he said that when you come to power, you open the door of forgiveness, not the door of oppression.
02:04So whoever is coming and giving the message that Khan is angry, Khan will come and Khan will take revenge.
02:09Today, in front of all the people, I want to make it clear to you that all this is false.
02:14Khan has always said that I have never thought of taking revenge and I will never take revenge.
02:20Because Allah does not like to take revenge.
02:22And neither should a person come to power and take revenge at all.
02:28Yesterday, Mr. Rana Sinhaullah was on our show.
02:30I asked him an extensive question.
02:32Please listen to the answer.
02:35Mr. Rana, you said that when Bushra Bibi spoke, the institutions should answer.
02:40According to the law, the institutions are under you.
02:43You can ask the question that whether they are under you or you are under the institutions.
02:49You know this and I also know this.
02:51If there is no ambiguity about something, then what is there to explain it.
02:59You know this and I also know this.
03:05So it is very clear who is the source of power and where it is.
03:09So now all these courts, decisions will not be made here for the future of Pakistan.
03:13Clearly, there will be decisions between Islamabad and Pindi and there will be decisions between Khans.
03:18But what has fallen, where will it go?
03:21As far as the government is concerned, today Mariam Nawaz was speaking in a speech in Lahore.
03:26In the speech, she talked about picking up garbage and said that this is also garbage.
03:35And they should also be released.
03:37And then such a language was also used on PTI.
03:40As far as PTI is concerned, it has now reached 12 corpses out of 278.
03:46The government is not even ready to kill one corpse.
03:49In fact, today I felt very strange that when Mr. Attawad Tariq's press conference was going on,
03:54you must have seen the video on social media that the Rangers threw a man down from the top of the containers.
04:00And PTI claimed that the man was killed.
04:03So they said that the famous man is the resident and alive of Mandi Bahauddin.
04:09But his death was claimed.
04:12And they say that the container was dropped by the one who was praying.
04:15The container is not a place to pray.
04:17There are many mosques in Islamabad to pray.
04:20Such a callous attitude is out of my understanding.
04:23I thought that the minister would say that yes, we are also inquiring why a man was thrown so high from two containers.
04:30He himself is a pious man.
04:33So a callousness has come.
04:35There are no divisions at all.
04:37And when it comes to PTI, there are further divisions.
04:39Now it seems that there are three groups.
04:41There is a Bushra Bibi group, a Kameen Gandapur group, and a group from Punjab.
04:46Today, there is a story in Guardian, in which the spokeswoman of Bushra Bibi, Mashal Yusufzai,
04:53says that Khan Sahib is very frustrated in the jail,
04:57that his instructions are not going to the grassroots level,
05:01but are being blocked or manipulated by the senior leadership in the party.
05:06Now, this Mashal Yusufzai is the same person who was the special assistant to the KP chief minister until three days ago.
05:12He was removed from the deal, but he is still the spokesperson of Bushra Bibi.
05:17And in that, Maryam Riaz Battu, who is the assistant of Bushra Bibi,
05:20says that the close aide of Khan Sahib is very suspicious.
05:25The close aide who is close to Khan Sahib and his senior leadership,
05:30and they are playing on both sides.
05:33So now these three groups have also formed.
05:36Where will the matter go?
05:38How will the issues end?
05:40In fact, it is very interesting.
05:43Listen to what Aleema Bibi has to say.
05:50Yes, let's listen to that too.
05:52Let me introduce our guest.
05:54Faisal Wabda Sahib has joined us in the studio.
05:56Fawad Chaudhary Sahib.
05:58Let's start with Faisal Wabda.
06:00What have you started?
06:02That I am going to save his life, someone will kill him.
06:06What is this?
06:08Why have you created such suspense in the market?
06:10Thank you very much, Mr. Malik.
06:12Mr. Malik, first of all, the things that I have been telling you,
06:16in the background, you saw that Qasim Suri Sahib said that Imran Khan Sahib has gone mad.
06:22So I am not saying this.
06:24He said that he had tweeted that something like this has been given to Khan Sahib,
06:28that his mental balance is at risk of deterioration.
06:30What do you call mental balance?
06:32A poisonous substance has been sprayed in the room,
06:34which is affecting his brain.
06:36He has lost his mental balance,
06:38so he is saying that he has gone mad.
06:40A person who has lost his mental balance is not a normal person.
06:42Secondly, this reminds me,
06:44that I want to address the Interior Ministry and say that
06:46these people who are running such stories,
06:50Nawaz Sharif Sahib's passport and ID card got cancelled.
06:54So why don't these people's ID cards and passports get cancelled,
06:58who run away to foreign countries and don't spread such rumours there.
07:02I am surprised.
07:04Number two is that,
07:06where did all these stories start in Tehreek-e-Insaf in 2018,
07:10when Begum Sahiba came into this party.
07:12Imran Khan Sahib was Jamaima's husband,
07:14when she got divorced, she should have got half of her property legally,
07:16according to British law.
07:18She didn't get it.
07:20So a man didn't steal 10 crores, he stole 1 lakh.
07:22You don't understand, right?
07:24But he is not responsible because he signed it.
07:26So who is its beneficiary?
07:28It's not my father, it's his children, Begum Sahiba's.
07:30Gogi gang is not my father's,
07:32it was his friends who blackmailed me.
07:34The danger of life is something very serious.
07:36Sir, listen to me.
07:38When you came to D-Chowk,
07:40then you made a story that I was zado-coped,
07:42then your TV showed that she was walking on foot,
07:46she was sitting in a Gandapur car,
07:48then she was zado-coped.
07:50Maria Batu said in my show,
07:52I think it was 26 or 27,
07:54that Gandapur Sahib had kept her in Hapse Beja.
07:56Sir, I was also in that show.
07:58The break started from there.
08:00Sir, all these lies have been caught.
08:02What is the benefit of all this?
08:04Khan is suffering.
08:06The narrative of madness,
08:08the narrative of compromise,
08:10the narrative of running away,
08:12the narrative of chemical,
08:14the narrative of tearing tyres.
08:16All these narratives are being made
08:18and everyone is getting beaten up and exposed.
08:20What is the benefit of all this?
08:22Give water to Begum Sahiba,
08:24give her food, give her curd.
08:26My wife will come and say,
08:28let me go to Fawad Sahab.
08:30She has all the power in her reflected glory.
08:32If Khan is not there,
08:34Bishra Bibi is nothing.
08:36Why would she jeopardise that power?
08:38Sir, in this country,
08:40there has been a lot of politics
08:42on the corpse of popular leaders.
08:44Let me tell you,
08:46Clinton was also trapped,
08:48he went like an impeachment.
08:50Shahnawaz Bhutto,
08:52he got interested in a woman
08:54and did all these things.
08:56People like you and me
08:58can get away with these things
09:00even if we get caught.
09:02I am also saying that
09:04if you get trapped,
09:06you get caught,
09:08you become blind,
09:10you become a party member,
09:12you become a goat,
09:14Faiz Ameer is giving information
09:16under the Intelligence Chief,
09:18he is giving information
09:20about the goat.
09:22My father is not doing all these things.
09:24Now PTI is standing in front of you.
09:26It was also on your show.
09:28See, keep a lot of clarity
09:30that it is a government versus PTI.
09:32When you call a state or an army,
09:34Article 245 is clear.
09:36On whose head is the government?
09:38Let me complete.
09:40One very important aspect is
09:42that it is not a state.
09:44And today the Chief has
09:46made a very important statement
09:48with a lot of clarity
09:50and a very strong statement.
09:52He is on a tour of Balochistan.
09:54Sir, we did not get the official statement.
09:56It is from there. You can check, sir.
09:58He said that Pakistan is with the same people.
10:00We are not with any political party,
10:02we are not with any politician,
10:04we are not against anyone.
10:06The government must be very worried
10:08after listening to the statement.
10:10Everyone should have this worry
10:12and clarity that the state, army,
10:14establishment is with the country
10:16and its people.
10:18Let's come back to this.
10:20Few people know better than you.
10:22Even Mr. Khan knows less than you.
10:24And we feel that
10:26Jalda should come back formally
10:28to PTI.
10:30So you might be one of the few survivors
10:32who come back.
10:34There is a lot of confusion in PTI
10:36and the grouping is becoming clear.
10:38Let's listen to the latest statement
10:40of Ali Ima Khan and then I will come back to you.
10:50Ali Ima Khan has taken the lead.
10:52He has taken the lead.
10:54And he has taken everyone with him.
10:56But the rest of the leaders
10:58should definitely be present at the container.
11:00The wife called
11:02and said that
11:04she will follow Mr. Khan's orders
11:06and come to D-Chowk.
11:08Bushra Bibi did not come two weeks ago.
11:10When Salman Akram Raja
11:12met Imran Khan on Thursday night,
11:14he also gave him instructions for the party.
11:16So why did he have to tell
11:18Imran Khan?
11:20She is lying.
11:22She is blaming Imran Khan for this.
11:24We don't know.
11:26No one contacted us.
11:28No one from the party contacted us.
11:30Never.
11:42We were standing there
11:44in the service lane.
11:46There was no one there.
11:48The job of the container is to control.
11:50There was no sound of the container.
11:52We sent a big message at 4 o'clock.
11:54Did Bushra Bibi take the lead
11:56in this lane?
11:58She was at the container
12:00and she has taken the lead.
12:02She has taken everyone with her.
12:04But the rest of the leaders
12:06should definitely be present
12:08at the container.
12:10Like Imran Khan's system.
12:12Mr. Gauhar also said that
12:14Bibi has also taken the lead.
12:16Okay.
12:20Bushra Bibi's role has become an enigma.
12:22I will ask you because you have
12:24repeatedly said in my shows
12:26that if a family member takes the lead
12:28then it will be a problem.
12:30Now it seems that the family member
12:32has caused a long split.
12:34Earlier there were statements
12:36that she was not even a friend.
12:38Ali Khan said that she had no plan.
12:40Imran did not know either.
12:42But she did criticize.
12:44But the rest of the leaders were not present.
12:46I was in Peshawar two days ago.
12:48Believe me, if I had been in Gandapur
12:50I would have left Peshawar.
12:52It doesn't matter.
12:54It's all a fight.
12:56Sir, let's look at a bigger picture.
13:00Two and a half to two years ago
13:02there was an establishment
13:04called FASH.
13:06FASH decided to
13:08end PTI as a party.
13:10Faisal Warda,
13:12me, Imran Ismail,
13:14Lashad Umar,
13:16Ali Zaidi, Praveen Sattar,
13:18Mehmood Khan,
13:20all of us were forcibly
13:22released.
13:24They beat us up.
13:26They said that they were
13:28like us.
13:30So we were
13:32released.
13:34Now what was the result?
13:36The result was that
13:38whatever you want to discuss
13:40has no importance.
13:42And you said
13:44that these are Imran Khan's reflections.
13:46As a result of this policy
13:48the party ended
13:50and Imran Khan
13:52who was their main challenge
13:54grew bigger.
13:56Now there is Khan, there are supporters,
13:58in between there is noise.
14:00Now you tell me,
14:02whatever name you take,
14:04Gauhar is like a brother to me,
14:06a dear friend.
14:08But there is no political gravitas.
14:10Today if you
14:12want to protest,
14:14is there a person in this leadership
14:16whose family
14:18is supporting him?
14:20Khan called them.
14:22People are coming because of Khan.
14:24Now what is the problem?
14:26Earlier the establishment
14:28was using the People's Party,
14:30especially the Noon League.
14:32Now you are using the Noon League
14:34The decision that Faisal has made
14:36and the gesture that Faisal has made,
14:38the problem is that
14:40we are not independent.
14:42We are hostages of situations.
14:44Now the situation is
14:46that whatever happened here,
14:48two years have passed.
14:50You could have made Imran Khan's
14:52political alternative.
14:54You didn't.
14:56Now you tell me.
14:58You didn't make counter-biyaaniya from the government.
15:00You didn't make an alternative.
15:02I went to the Anti-Terrorism Court today.
15:04I was so sad
15:06that there were 800 prisoners.
15:08Just like the chickens
15:10are brought in a prison van,
15:12there were children,
15:14old people.
15:16The police told me that
15:18we don't have money to feed them.
15:20These are the people of 24th November.
15:22Now after that,
15:24all the people I have spoken to in KP
15:26are very worried
15:28that the situation
15:30that has been created
15:32is not in the interest of Pakistan
15:34and we need to bring it down.
15:36Now you have two options.
15:38You could have made Imran Khan's
15:40alternative in two years.
15:42Now you don't have
15:44the option to run politics
15:46without Imran Khan.
15:48On the other hand,
15:50the Noon League tells the establishment
15:52that they read the Tashbeeh 365 times a day
15:54on 9th May, 9th May, 9th May, 9th May
15:56so that the establishment
15:58can use PTI
16:00in the same way.
16:02Now the establishment
16:04is still saying,
16:06I have been listening to Faisal for 4 days,
16:08Faisal is trying to distance
16:10that this is not the case.
16:12But frankly, we did not see
16:14this effort from the establishment.
16:16What is the problem with that?
16:18The divisions in Pakistan
16:20are increasing.
16:22If this is still
16:24what Faisal is talking about,
16:26then we need to make an effort.
16:28And it is important
16:30that the establishment
16:32becomes everyone's.
16:34Otherwise, the situation in Pakistan
16:36will get worse.
16:38Faisal, tell me one thing.
16:40I have seen that
16:42before the 24th call,
16:44there was a big profiling.
16:46This is the area of Sehatpur,
16:48in the heart of Islamabad.
16:50There are a lot of Pathan workers there.
16:52I know of one restaurant
16:54which has a lot of Pathan workers.
16:56There are a lot of people
16:58who have been arrested.
17:00But this profiling
17:02is very dangerous.
17:04Especially with the terrorism spike.
17:06Also,
17:08when we listen here,
17:10one thing is very clear.
17:12The high leadership of the establishment
17:14is convinced
17:16that Imran Khan is not right for Pakistan.
17:18Now,
17:20individuals make decisions here,
17:22but not for Pakistan.
17:24If this thought is
17:26absolutely firm,
17:28that Imran will not go to Pakistan
17:30at any cost,
17:32then how will things go forward?
17:34Look, Mr. Malik,
17:36keep a lot of clarity in this.
17:38I condemn what happened with the Pathan.
17:40And this is the old
17:42style of female politics.
17:44With the slogan of Jhaag Punjabi Jhaag,
17:46attacking the nationality
17:48of the province.
17:50The Pathan hotel staff
17:52is being arrested.
17:54We are aware of this.
17:56The staff of Kabul has been arrested.
17:58All the Pathan hotel
18:00and restaurant
18:02where poor innocent people work.
18:04Since 2018,
18:06I know of many people
18:08who work as waiters.
18:10This is not the establishment's fault.
18:12Neither is it the army's fault.
18:14This is the government's fault.
18:16They should own it.
18:18This is a dangerous game
18:20in Pakistan.
18:22This is a game
18:24that will take everyone
18:26to the streets.
18:28And the government
18:30is selling something productive.
18:32Take the Quran for example.
18:34They have no branding.
18:36Toyota's cars have been
18:38beaten up in America
18:40until their luxury cars
18:42were exported to America.
18:44They changed the brand
18:46of their cars.
18:52Mr. Khan's information
18:54minister was very sad
18:56about this.
18:58This is a very serious matter.
19:00You can arrest people
19:02with identification cards.
19:04You can arrest people
19:06illegally.
19:08You can arrest everyone.
19:10But you can't arrest
19:12innocent people
19:14who are travelling
19:16illegally.
19:18You can't even arrest
19:2010,000 people.
19:22We need to raise our voice
19:24for them.
19:26I think the interior minister
19:28will acknowledge this issue.
19:30You can cancel their passports
19:32and ID cards
19:34and make a speech
19:36saying that this is
19:38a political mess.
19:40This is a political mess.
19:42You can start
19:44your own mess.
19:46You say that this is a terrorist party.
19:48They are terrorists.
19:50You say that they dropped dead bodies.
19:52But you forgot about the murder of
19:54Model Town.
19:56You forgot about the Supreme Court
19:58attack.
20:00You forgot about your history.
20:02My issue is different.
20:04If you abuse,
20:06I will hang you.
20:08If I abuse,
20:10I will make you the
20:12Prime Minister.
20:14How long will this drama last?
20:16If a father becomes the Prime Minister,
20:18his brother becomes the Chief Minister.
20:20If a daughter becomes the Chief Minister,
20:22her brother becomes the Prime Minister.
20:24If Imran Khan goes to jail,
20:26his wife becomes the Prime Minister.
20:28How long will this drama last?
20:30The cheapest things in Pakistan's
20:32history are the cheapest.
20:34Food is cheap,
20:36petrol is cheap,
20:38water is cheap, smuggling is cheap.
20:40Who did this?
20:42Interest rate is low,
20:44current government is better.
20:46My father is bringing it.
20:48Government is bringing it.
20:50Who is running the SIFC platform?
20:52Army Chief is running it.
20:54Now you feel bad.
20:56You are not ready to give credit to anyone.
20:58What is the problem with Imran Khan?
21:00On the other hand,
21:02the government is making a narrative
21:04that the army and PTI are standing in front of us.
21:06They have political parties.
21:08They are worried that
21:10Asim Munir has become successful
21:12in bringing Pakistan under control.
21:14He has no love lost
21:16for any political party
21:18or any political leader.
21:20His focus is only on Pakistan
21:22and his people.
21:24You want to create a misunderstanding
21:26that PTI versus PTI.
21:28But the establishment's leaning
21:30is towards one party.
21:32But let me ask you one thing.
21:34I don't want to forget
21:36what I said about People's Party.
21:38Let's move away from the subject.
21:40But you met
21:42Bilawal Bhutto.
21:44There is a formula
21:46in Islamabad.
21:48March-April formula.
21:50I have heard that
21:52People's Party is weighing its options.
21:54It is weighing
21:56whether to do minus one
21:58or something like that.
22:00Did you and Bilawal Bhutto
22:02have any discussion?
22:04Mr. Mohan,
22:06my private conversation
22:08is a private conversation.
22:10I am not going to agree or disagree
22:12on your journalism.
22:14Secondly,
22:16when I met Bilawal,
22:18he is a young man.
22:20He is 36 years old.
22:22He is not a young man
22:24by doing Botox, filler or surgery.
22:26He neither acts on a ramp
22:28nor in a theatre.
22:30I am talking about him.
22:34I am talking about Mr. Bilawal.
22:36Secondly, he is an educated man.
22:38He is a family man.
22:40He has given marriage in his house
22:42in democracy.
22:44His mother died,
22:46his uncle died,
22:48his grandfather died,
22:50his father was in jail for 14 years.
22:52He is more mature than
22:54the minister of politics.
22:56He is weighing his options.
22:58No one has to weigh their options.
23:00If the government
23:02can run
23:04under its own weight,
23:06like the statements,
23:08actions and characters
23:10from morning to evening,
23:12if all the servants
23:14stand up and give statements,
23:16then the government doesn't need anyone.
23:18The government has no problem
23:20with the establishment,
23:22political parties,
23:24courts, people,
23:26but tell me one thing about the government.
23:28The government has given
23:30a certificate of three martyrs.
23:32They are not able to defend it.
23:34There have been martyrs,
23:36bullets have been fired, people have died.
23:38But is it written in the certificate
23:40that they were killed by the police?
23:42Even the PTI can kill.
23:44I am a normal man.
23:46He means that he was killed
23:48by police bullets.
23:50It is written in the certificate.
23:52If you pick up the Quran,
23:54there are many good indicators in Pakistan,
23:56but if you pick up the Quran and talk,
23:58people are not ready to talk,
24:00they are not ready to believe.
24:02This political funeral,
24:04Quran,
24:06Quran,
24:08Quran,
24:10Quran,
24:12Quran,
24:14Quran,
24:16Quran,
24:18Quran,
24:20Quran,
24:22I respect his private conversation,
24:24I respect his right,
24:26but ultimately,
24:28the issue has to be resolved
24:30between the establishment and Imran Khan.
24:32There is a lot of mistrust.
24:34I had run Bushra BB
24:36because the statement of Bushra BB
24:38was addressed to the institution.
24:40There should be no ambiguity.
24:42They said that perhaps the message
24:44will reach them or not,
24:46but after that message,
24:48on the 24th of May,
24:50the lines have been drawn.
24:52How will this break?
24:54No, the lines have not been drawn.
24:56The truth is that
24:58we have made a big mistake.
25:00When Mr. Khan said that
25:02we do not want to keep in touch,
25:04our contacts are over.
25:06Otherwise, there is no fight,
25:08there is no problem.
25:10The problem is that we are not a militia.
25:12You have to come from a conversation.
25:14You have to find out Islamabad
25:16with a gun and a tank.
25:18If you have weapons,
25:20we have weapons too.
25:22People have died.
25:24People have been martyred.
25:26Then the government gets an excuse.
25:28I don't think the government
25:30will react to this.
25:32I don't think the establishment
25:34should react to this.
25:36When there will be martyred,
25:38and we have all agreed
25:40that there is racial discrimination,
25:42we should expect that
25:44there will be a lot of rashes.
25:46What did you do?
25:48On 8th February, people decided
25:50and changed it to 9th February.
25:52The anti-terrorism judge
25:54who tried to act on the law
25:56was the judge of Sargodha.
25:58Mr. Shehzad Malik,
26:00the Chief Justice of Lahore
26:02and the judges of the High Court
26:04are all in front of you.
26:06The Supreme Court judge is so innocent
26:08that I tweeted in the morning
26:10that the nation should do something
26:12for them.
26:14If you don't want to leave a way,
26:16what will you do other than protesting?
26:18If a wise man closes the door,
26:20he opens the window
26:22to breathe.
26:24You have put Imran Khan
26:26and PTI against the wall.
26:28Bring them forward.
26:30Let's take a break.
26:32We are looking for a way forward.
26:34But it is because
26:36there is a belief
26:38that this person is not right.
26:40How will he break?
26:42We will talk about this after the break.
26:50Welcome back.
26:52Faisal,
26:54I don't think Khan can
26:56give a statement
26:58to his family
27:00that there is no revenge.
27:02Let's move on with it.
27:04How will the other side
27:06be explained?
27:08One thing is clear.
27:10It is a matter of the government
27:12and the establishment.
27:14The decision is between them.
27:16There is a strange video
27:18that Imran Khan is a jihadist
27:20and will be hanged.
27:22He is a state.
27:24He is an army.
27:26He is saving us from the enemies.
27:28A local man is standing
27:30in front of him
27:32and asking him to forgive him.
27:34You are questioning him again.
27:36There are ground realities.
27:38You can agree respectfully
27:40and you can disagree respectfully.
27:42There is a way.
27:44You will never get double respect.
27:46If you abuse him,
27:48he will slap you.
27:50He has lowered the temperature.
27:52No, no.
27:54Everyone should step back.
27:56The government is not lowering the temperature.
27:58Why should the government lower the temperature?
28:00There is no mandate yet.
28:02We were popular in RTS.
28:04We stole the mandate.
28:06He stole the mandate in 1947.
28:08He was popular.
28:10We were not popular.
28:12The problem is that
28:14the government is not delivering.
28:16The government wants to fight.
28:18The government is not doing anything else.
28:20You are justifying
28:22what you have done.
28:24You have justified
28:26what you have done.
28:28You have justified what you have done.
28:30You have justified what you have done.
28:32You have justified what you have done.
28:34Imran Khan is a very sensible person.
28:36He is saying that
28:38he can climb a mountain in 20 minutes.
28:40He is trained.
28:42You are saying that we are untrained.
28:44The police's job is to show their rate
28:46through action.
28:48This is the job of politicians.
28:50If they are also politicians,
28:52then we will be there.
28:54Then we will do the police's job.
28:56What should be done
28:58to reduce mistrust between Khan and the institution?
29:00To reduce mistrust.
29:02Imran Khan has made a very sensible statement.
29:04He has made a happy statement.
29:06When we go to talk to the government,
29:08we don't talk about the road.
29:10We go to the assembly.
29:12Good statement.
29:14In a political way.
29:16There was a tweet.
29:18There was a tweet from Imran Khan's twitter handle.
29:20He said,
29:22this is my phone.
29:24I am in jail.
29:26My phone is being used by Fawad.
29:28He is putting spices in it.
29:30Why are you giving him a tweet?
29:32Give my phone to him.
29:34I am saying that
29:36he is not getting any information.
29:38There is no issue of information.
29:40At this time, you expect
29:42that after the martyrdom of 12 people,
29:44Imran Khan will say
29:46that there is nothing.
29:48Like Gauhar has given a speech.
29:50Imran Khan cannot give a speech.
29:52It is a simple matter.
29:54We are the burden of 12 corpses.
29:56We can't go and talk about it.
29:58It should be done.
30:00It should be settled down.
30:02We will have to investigate.
30:04The issue is...
30:06How can the temperature be low?
30:08It was done.
30:10Almost 24 hours ago,
30:12it was decided.
30:14It seemed that this matter
30:16will be solved.
30:18Political prisoners will get relief.
30:20Unfortunately,
30:22if there was a person like Faisal
30:24in the government team,
30:26the distrust
30:28that you mentioned earlier,
30:30is so high that
30:32the team gets into nitty-gritty.
30:34When a big issue was decided,
30:36the team should...
30:38They should go to Imran Khan.
30:40Yes, they should not get into nitty-gritty.
30:42Imran Khan said something.
30:44You should expect
30:46that Imran Khan
30:48will not give a strict statement
30:50after so many martyrdoms.
30:52This will not happen.
30:54He has to create an atmosphere.
30:56The establishment has to create an atmosphere.
30:58You will have to do it stepwise.
31:00First, you have to give
31:02some relief to the political prisoners.
31:04It has been 20 months since
31:06Yasmeen Rashid, Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
31:08Ijaz Chaudhry, Mehmood Rashid,
31:10Omar Cheema,
31:12someone should give you a sign
31:14that you are giving them some relief.
31:16Just house arrest the women.
31:18Yes, there are 10 ways to do it.
31:20The way Imran Khan has been kept
31:22in the dark for 20 years.
31:24We should not take out the women
31:26or do something.
31:28You know, Mr. Chaudhry,
31:30these are exaggerated news.
31:32They are propaganda campaigns.
31:34No, Mr. Khan himself said
31:36and you know and I also know
31:38that Imran Khan does not have
31:40the capacity to lie.
31:42Whatever he says will be right.
31:44He does not have the capacity
31:46to lie.
31:48Yes, our leaders are our neighbors.
31:50narrative king toh hai na.
31:51Nahi, nahi.
31:52Narrative banana aisa bahut hai.
31:53Nahi, nahi.
31:54Toh hai, interpret karo, theek hai.
31:55Interpret karte hain.
31:56Narrative, best narrative banta hai, jo sach ke kareeb tarih nahi hai.
31:58Yeh bhi main aapko batao, jhoot pe kabhi narrative nahi banta hai.
32:01Acha, doosri baat yeh hai, ki yeh jab steps lehenge aap, aap Imran Khan ki political
32:07jo importance hai, yeh hasiyat hai, dekho, wo toh maani padegi.
32:10Aap jista keh dite hai, ki ji, agar yeh koi kah rahe hai, ki ji, Imran Khan toh mulk
32:14ke liye accha nahi hai.
32:15Lahaiza aapne faisla ki hai, 70% log uske saath hai.
32:19Ya toh aap political alternative create kar lete hai na, 2 saal mein.
32:22Aap nahi kar sake.
32:23Toh aap aapko Imran Khan ki political importance, uske qad ko maan ke hi aage chalna padega na.
32:28Chalo, ek, ek, break lene ka mujhe kaha jaa raha hai.
32:31Ek sawal chhode jaa toh aakhir mein.
32:33Shahid government ki, baakiyon ki khwaish ho, ke Imran Khan ko saari zindagi aap andar
32:37rakh le, wo toh hona nahi hai.
32:39Na Imran Khan can be wished away, na yeh realities can be wished away.
32:43Of course.
32:44Toh hono realities ka koi tariqa hai milaane ka, ke nahi?
32:47Woh is break ke baad baat karte hain.
32:54Ji, welcome back.
32:56Islamabad bada zalim shahar hai.
32:58Yahaan 6 maheene pehle, jisko huwa kaha jaata hai na, that rumour becomes a fact 6 months
33:02later.
33:03Phir formulas ki aap baatein sun rahe hain.
33:05March, April formula.
33:06Jitar halaat jaa rahe hain, yahaan toh 4 letter word pe khatam hogi baat khudana khaas
33:10tha.
33:11Marshall Hoxhaab jaa rahe hain, koi jitne qaaneen sakht ho rahe hain, sakht bhi ho rahe
33:14hain, badi sakht security state banti jaa rahe hain.
33:17Do hi rahe jaate hain options, dharmiyan mein, mid solutions.
33:22Yahaan mid term polls, der do saal Imran chhode hain, der do saal woh chhode hain, aur chalein
33:26aap ho jaye.
33:27Doosra ajeeb o gareeb baatein sun rahe hain, ki national government bhi ho sakte hain.
33:31Kya yeh dono hi solution ab hai, iske labah koi solution nahi hai?
33:34Dekhi Marshall sahab, ek toh mujh pe jaadu tone aur muhakkal wala kaam toh jalta nahi
33:37hai.
33:38Toh main bahut simple thi, 30 second mein aapko jawab dekhen, yeh Pakistan ka saara
33:41masla resolve karne ke liye aapko sirf 2 cheeze chahiye.
33:452 talaakein.
33:46Ek talaak system ko Noorli ko deni padegi, aur ek talaak Imran Khan sahab ko deni padegi.
33:51Jisne toh mein cheeze ho gayi…
33:52Koffe khudaar karein yaar, siyasat pe baat karein.
33:53Aap karmein siyasi talaak ki baat karein.
33:55Jaisi aap 2 cheeze kar denge, Pakistan aage chalna chalo ho jayega.
33:58System ko talaak deni, Noorli ko, aur Khan ko talaak deni.
34:02Toh uske baad koi toh solution hoga na.
34:04Toh phir saara solution resolve ki taraf automatically baat jayega.
34:07Midterm polls, National Government, agar National Government ki baat hoti hai, kya PTI ko bait
34:13nahin denge Khan sahab?
34:14Nahin, bait nahin.
34:15Dekhe na, pehli baat toh yeh hai, manager sahab ko kaha, toh temperature neeche laane
34:18ki zaroorat hai.
34:19Midterm poll ka matlab toh dekho na, 2 baaton ka matlab, aaj Imran Khan ko release karne
34:23ka matlab system pack up ho gaya.
34:26Tarahan sahab la kaha na, matlab yeh kaha, 80 andar ho jayi hai, toh wo bahar aa jayega.
34:29Yeh cheeze dekhenge Imran Khan ko, PTI ko, samjhne padhegi, ki aapne People's Party aur
34:34Noon League ko yeh space deni hogi, ki aapke saath, jisra BB ne, woh badi achchi, ek jo
34:40aapne tukda sunaya hai, woh bada achcha tha.
34:42Wohi cheeze jo hai, woh Noon League aur People's Party ko chahiye.
34:45Dekhe, Fauj ko itna problem nahin hota, woh apna ifaazat khud kar lete hain.
34:48Asal mein toh political parties ko aapne yeh space deni hai, ki yeh nahin hoga.
34:52Doosri baat yeh hai, ki mere khayal mein, National Government for a period,
34:56agreed upon period, may be 6 months or 9 months or a year, important hai,
35:01tha ki temperature neeche hain.
35:03Imran Khan ko bhi bahar aa ke party revamp karni hai.
35:06Zahir hai ki, is party ke saath toh nahin na, woh haqoomat kar sakte hai.
35:09Lahaza, unhe zarurat bhi hai unko, kuch harsa party ke bhar tawajjo dene ki,
35:14aur haqoomat ko aur establishment ko zarurat hai, ki thodi temperature neeche hain.
35:19Agar yeh doro cheezein nahi hoti, toh yeh isi tarah conflict rehta hai,
35:23toh kya phir sirf ek non-democratic anjaam ke tarah jayenge hain?
35:27Phir koi kuch nahi kahe sakta.
35:29The problem is right now, jis kadar yahan nafrat badh gayi hai,
35:32jis kadar yahan pe ek idara, aapne, dekhe na, koi idara nahi bacha,
35:37political institutions nahi bacha, aapke administrative institutions nahi bacha,
35:41uske netije mein Pakistan mein ek continuous turmoil hai.
35:45So, is tarah toh nahi mulg chal sakta.
35:47Chalo, Fawad, bahut shukriya, Faisal, aapka bahut shukriya.
35:50Nazim, wo hum jab ABC dekhti hain, toh A aur Z, wo kehte hain na,
35:54iske darmian mein bahut se alphabets hain.
35:57Yeh A pe kharhi hui hain, government establishment,
36:00Khan sahab Z pe hain, wo Z maante hain, yeh A se aage hilne bhi tyaar nahi,
36:03lekin beech mein bahut se meeting points hain.
36:05Agar yeh meeting point pe koi cheezein aayegi, toh shayad bachat ho jaye.
36:10Banna agar yeh kuch bhi nahi hua, toh there is a four-letter verb,
36:13agar aap uske initials likhein, toh four letters mein ho jaatein.
36:17Wo kisi ke bhi haq mein nahi hain.
36:19Let's hope ke sanity prevail karein.
36:21Aur main baar baar kehta hu, institutions ko individuals ki tarah nahi sochna chahiye,
36:25aur individuals ko institutions ki tarah behave nahi karna chahiye.
36:28Unfortunately, Pakistan mein yeh hi ho raha hai.
36:30Yeh equation bhi change ho, aur har koi thoda thoda,
36:33apne ghode se neeche naab bhi utar hai, ghoda hi aayista kar le,
36:36toh shayad kahi pe bhi baat ban jaye.
36:38Ijazat dijiye, Allah Hafiz.