The Bill S25E46 Die By The Sword
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00:00Right, sit down now. Keep your head up.
00:04Mr. Milton, look straight in the camera, please.
00:14Head up. Eyes open. Now.
00:16Come on.
00:20Middle of the night, it just deteriorates really quickly.
00:22There, look there.
00:24Brown's brain dead around 10.30pm.
00:36Tell you what, the charge shoot just got a bit more serious.
00:54Yesterday, you told us that you were on the coal lane estate between 8 and 9 the previous day.
01:08But you didn't tell us that you were involved in a fight with three lads.
01:13I told you I couldn't. I had my daughter with me and I didn't want my ex-wife to find out.
01:18Breaking the restraining order that she got against you.
01:21Exactly. I didn't want this to come out. I'm a good dad.
01:26I just went round to see my daughter when my missus was out. Had a word with the babysitter.
01:31What, so your ex-wife is out on the town and you had to sneak around to push your baby around the park?
01:36That must be really upsetting.
01:39Upsetting? Upsetting?
01:42Maybe someone had to pay.
01:45What?
01:46I think you went looking for trouble, Craig.
01:49No, look, those boys came after me. They had a knife.
01:52We have two witnesses who say there was no knife.
01:54Yeah?
01:55Yeah.
01:56What the hell do you call this then?
02:00The suspect has revealed injuries to his left side. What appeared to be lacerations.
02:05Sit down, Craig.
02:06It was me thinking this was going to be straight forward.
02:08Why didn't you mention this before?
02:10I was drunk before.
02:11Right, let's take this back to the initial encounter.
02:14When you first met the three boys, you had your baby daughter with you, correct?
02:18This was when?
02:19It was about eight o'clock.
02:22They kicked a ball at her pushchair.
02:25She woke up screaming.
02:27OK, I was knocked, but all I did was kick the ball away.
02:30And then what?
02:31They said I had to fetch it.
02:33Fetch it way, way.
02:35I wasn't thinking it.
02:37And then the little one pulls a knife.
02:39The little one? You sure about that?
02:41I think if someone put a knife in your daughter's face, she'd know about it.
02:45He said he'd shank her if I didn't get his ball.
02:48So, what did you do?
02:50Well, you'd think I got out of there as quick as I could.
02:52But I thought he was threatening you with a knife.
02:54There was.
02:55But then they started arguing and one of the others grabbed the knife, saw a chance and took it.
03:01So then you met them a second time, right?
03:03Where was that?
03:05Manly Road.
03:08Mia was back with the babysitter.
03:10Benioffi was heading back.
03:13They were all there, laughing.
03:16The little one's shouting.
03:19Suddenly a big one's come at me and he's the one who slashed me.
03:23I smacked him and I ran.
03:29Well, this changes everything.
03:31Yeah.
03:32If we're talking self-defence, we'll need to know whether those boys were carrying knives.
03:41Well, those wounds don't look very innocent.
03:45OK, everybody, listen up.
03:47As you've probably already heard, this case has now taken an unexpected turn.
03:51Greg Middleton is now claiming the boys had knives.
03:54Specifically, Danny Sizzulu, that has ceased.
03:57It's our job to find out exactly what happened that night and there is no room for error.
04:01What it's worth, Gov, having spent time with the Sizzulus, I just don't see these kids as the type.
04:06They're good family, hard-working, church-going people.
04:09And I struggle to believe that Craig felt threatened enough to exact that sort of violence.
04:13It's disproportionate.
04:14Craig said he didn't even think Danny was badly hurt.
04:16He battered him.
04:17He was with his nine-month-old daughter.
04:19They fell into shanker, didn't they?
04:21Allegedly. And they're kids, 11, 15 and 16.
04:24He said he thought the guy who attacked him was 18, 19.
04:26Oh, please, Your Honour, she looked much older.
04:28Yeah, I think he has a fair point. It was dark and Danny was a big lad.
04:31Sorry, sir, but this was two brothers, good kids by all accounts, out with a friend.
04:35Now, is that impossible without someone assuming they're in a gang or up to no good?
04:38No.
04:39Well, either way, we've still got a lot of questions that need answers.
04:41There are only two witnesses, Kip Sizzulu, Danny's younger brother, and their mate, Mo Campbell.
04:46Kip's not given us much and Mo's gone to ground, right?
04:49Yeah, he's done a run-of-gov, which doesn't look good, does it?
04:52Millie and Ben, they're going to take over the search.
04:54Good. Well, he's crucial in getting the results, so let's find him, and fast.
04:58Also, there's none of Craig's blood at the scene, nothing to prove Danny cut him, so we need to find this knife.
05:02And we need to get this absolutely right, because either a good man goes down for defending himself,
05:07or a family fail to get justice for their murdered son.
05:10OK, let's do it.
05:14Banksy.
05:18We're going to bring in the Sizzulus again, OK?
05:20Gov, they're still raw with grief.
05:21Yeah, I know, but they need to know what Craig's been saying, and I want them to hear it from us.
05:25OK?
05:26Gov.
05:38DOOR OPENS
05:50She, the transplant lady, she was saying, apparently, that Daniel's heart has run out of oxygen.
06:02Very quickly, it...
06:04But his liver and kidneys are still good.
06:07Good.
06:10Right.
06:16Just to bring you up to speed.
06:19I know the timing couldn't be worse, and I'm really sorry, but an allegation's been made.
06:27It's been claimed that Daniel had a knife.
06:30Ah!
06:31What?
06:32Daniel carrying a knife.
06:33What?
06:34There's no way my son would carry a knife.
06:37We need to check it out, speak to all the witnesses.
06:40There's no way.
06:42Mrs Sizzulus, I'm afraid we need to speak to all those people who were actually there.
06:51Couldn't we have got the boy on his own?
06:53No, his mum wasn't happy.
06:55According to Banksy, the only reason why any of them are here at all is that they're so angry about what Craig did.
07:02This better work.
07:07The other night, when you were out with your brother, did he have a knife?
07:13No.
07:14Are you sure?
07:15Yeah.
07:16Because no-one's going to be cross with him if he did, and no-one's going to be cross with you either.
07:20He didn't. He didn't have it.
07:25So if he didn't have it, who did?
07:27So if he didn't have it, who did?
07:29No-no-no-no-one.
07:31Kip.
07:32We didn't, Mum. None of us. We didn't. Honest.
07:36Listen, mate, the man in the fire, the first time you saw him, he had a pushchair.
07:40He kicked your ball away.
07:43Did you ask him to get it back?
07:47OK.
07:49He said you did.
07:51He also said that you had a knife.
07:54I didn't, Mum. I didn't.
07:56What is this?
07:57Please, Mrs Sulu.
07:58A man has murdered my son. You're trying to blame it onto a child.
08:02Well, he's told us that Kip held a knife to his daughter's face.
08:04Said if he didn't get the ball back, he'd shank her.
08:07No!
08:08Enough.
08:10The kid's lying.
08:11He and Mo are keeping something secret.
08:13He's never going to crack in there.
08:15And when are we going to find Mo?
08:17Well, I think Banksy's doing the best he can.
08:19Well, I don't think the eyes and ears of the FLO are going to be enough.
08:23And they're going to be as wary as hell from now on.
08:26What are you thinking?
08:29I think we should put some surveillance inside the house.
08:32Inside the house?
08:33Well, I wouldn't suggest it if I could think of an alternative.
08:36And until we find Mo, we're going to get two completely different accounts of what happened.
08:41If we get a result, that's great.
08:44But if not, there's no need to tell the family, so it's a win-win.
08:51Better warn Banksy.
08:52No, because the more he's got to hide, the harder his job's going to be.
08:56Gov, we're going to be picking up on everything he says too.
08:58Yeah, exactly. So if we tell him, he's going to be far too aware of it.
09:01He's not going to like it when he finds out.
09:02Well, we don't tell him.
09:04What, you don't trust what your officer's going to say in private?
09:06No, I would rather trust him with the knowledge of what we're doing.
09:09Like I said, the Cecilovs may never need to find out.
09:12The same applies to DC Banks.
09:19I'll take it.
09:20Fine.
09:27What it's boiling down to is Craig's word against the boy's, and neither is coming across great.
09:33Mo's still AWOL on the fact that Kip is only 11 years old.
09:36You could see in his interview, there's stuff he didn't want to say in front of his mum.
09:39Yeah.
09:40So with Danny dead, obviously we can't put any more pressure on the family.
09:44No surprises, they want to preserve his memory.
09:46So it could be months, if ever, before we get a clear picture of what he was really like.
09:51On that basis, the superintendent presented a case to the AC and got the nod to put surveillance into the Cecilovs' house.
09:58Right.
10:01Al?
10:02Yeah.
10:03Thanks.
10:04So, um, we do the AWOL, specialist team do the rest.
10:08Cool.
10:09They're going to be doing Danny's transplant operation soon, so I want you down at St Hughes to keep an eye on the family.
10:13Plane site's fine, there's loads of reasons why you could be there.
10:16Sure.
10:17But won't Banks be with them, Gough?
10:18Yeah, but we want him to concentrate on being a fellow.
10:22Gough, I've spoken to Chrissie, give me a few more places where Mo hangs out.
10:25OK.
10:26Oh, and pass that straight on to Ben.
10:27Yeah.
10:28I'd better get back to the family, unless...
10:30No, no, it's fine, thanks.
10:34Oh, right, so he doesn't know about it yet.
10:38Anyone got a problem with that?
10:41Thanks, guys.
10:49So, put in a probe in, I get, Sarge.
10:52But not tell him Banksy.
10:54The DI doesn't want to compromise.
10:56What about when he finds out, and then discovers most of us already knew?
10:59So?
11:00You can't always paddle in the shadow.
11:03Hey.
11:04Hey.
11:05Hey, get in on.
11:07Metagaze is trying to claim self-defence.
11:10A grown man kills a 16-year-old, and everyone blames the kid.
11:14Sometimes.
11:15Tell me about it.
11:24The words needle, haystack and I can't be arsed spring to mind.
11:27Well, you might not be arsed, BC Gale, but Manson obviously thinks it's worth it.
11:32He just gives the only one who can tell us what happened either way.
11:35Yeah, I suppose there is the small matter of sending down the right person and all that.
11:39And all that.
11:40There is the small matter of sending down the right person and all that.
11:42And all that.
11:45Right.
11:48That's him.
11:49Mum!
11:50Mum!
11:51Mum, wait!
12:04What's that, INO?
12:05Yeah, gang tag maybe?
12:07I'll call in, shall I?
12:10It's yours from 795.
12:14I was told he came in last night, so he should be here.
12:16Check again.
12:26No, really.
12:27He must have been on the stage.
12:31Yeah, I've just arrived.
12:33Thanks, Calum.
12:40We've got a problem, Miss Anne.
12:42How long does the surveillance team want once they're inside?
12:45Ten, fifteen minutes.
12:46We'll be lucky to have one at this rate.
12:48Hang on, big guy.
12:50Maybe our luck's changed.
12:55Loony pressed it.
12:56It's unbelievable.
13:06They say we can see him afterwards.
13:09Are you planning to wait?
13:10Can we go home?
13:12I just want to go home.
13:14I can take them if you like.
13:16But...
13:17I think we should just all go home, take a break, and then come back.
13:21Please, Mum.
13:27We just need you to go away and come back.
13:29In 20 minutes.
13:30I know, but we haven't got 20 minutes.
13:32How did you get in?
13:35OK, cool.
13:36Yeah, I'm impressed.
13:38Yeah.
13:41Any sign of the family?
13:42No.
13:44OK, well, it looks like we finally cleared this, yeah?
13:46No, spoke too soon.
13:47They're heading out now.
13:48You want me to see which direction they're going?
13:49No, no, it should be OK, even if they come straight back.
13:54Yeah, I'm going to join in the search for Mo.
14:02Talk about not taking no for an answer.
14:04They're in.
14:06I hadn't seen them.
14:07Yeah, I know.
14:08Me neither.
14:09Well, they're obviously very good.
14:10Yes, I hope so.
14:11It's as soon as I want to wait back.
14:15Too late, they're here.
14:16I don't believe it.
14:18Right, as soon as the team's out of the house, give me a signal.
14:20Something simple, like a...
14:22Let's get out of the car.
14:26What's this?
14:27I don't know.
14:28Sorry, but there was a TV crew down here earlier causing a bit of upset.
14:31He's stolen him.
14:32Don't worry.
14:33The case he makes, his job is to act as a buffer between you and the media
14:36if you feel you need one.
14:37They've gone.
14:38Yeah, Joe had a word with them earlier, but I think it would be a good idea
14:41if you took everyone round the block, just to make sure.
14:43Mo, Dad, look at the flowers.
14:58They'll be fine.
15:00I don't think anything can be worse than what they've just been through.
15:02I know.
15:06Mr Cicero, hold on a sec.
15:13It's OK, come on.
15:17Look after him, yeah?
15:28Oh, dear, oh, dear.
15:30That was close.
15:33I'll go and get a coffee.
15:43Right, well, this is where Mo supposedly lives with his aunt,
15:45but according to the case of the events of rumours,
15:47she more or less lives in Spain these days.
15:49Mo?
15:50That's most of his home, the Susulus.
15:51He wasn't there last night, though.
15:53According to Banksy, Mr Susulu's taken against him.
15:56He's pretty fragile.
15:57From me, Sarge, that every time he approaches Mo on the street,
15:59he does a run-up.
16:00So we was thinking maybe if I was to stay here...
16:02Oh, we put Mo around the estate?
16:03And if he comes to ground?
16:04Yeah, do it.
16:05Yeah?
16:06All right.
16:10OK.
16:12Do you have a knife?
16:14Dad!
16:17Kit!
16:24There you go.
16:25Thank you.
16:26And you must thank your wife.
16:28I'm sure you've seen more of us than you have of her.
16:31Goes with the territory.
16:33Must like your job.
16:35Yeah, I do.
16:37I work with a good team.
16:39Upstairs.
16:40Did you tell them about I and I?
16:41No.
16:42And what did you say about Danny?
16:43Nothing.
16:45OK, and are they outside the knives?
16:46Yeah.
16:47And?
16:48They're no.
16:49How?
16:50The man must have told them.
16:52But he lied.
16:53He said Danny had it when we went back.
16:55That's it, we've got to tell Dad.
16:57No!
16:58Chrissie, look at me.
16:59What?
17:01You have to promise me that you won't tell Dad or Mum anything about this.
17:05I know.
17:06All right, I promise.
17:28You all right, man?
17:30No.
17:31No.
17:32Get off me!
17:33Come on.
17:34Get off me!
17:35Come on.
17:36Huh?
17:37You think you're a big man because you've got a uniform on?
17:38Shut up, man.
17:39Get off my arm.
17:40You'll squeeze him up.
17:43Just calm down, man.
17:44Get off my arm, man.
17:45I'll calm down.
17:46Last one.
17:47Yeah.
17:48You ain't got nothing on me.
17:49Come on, man.
17:50It's in there.
17:52Take a seat in there, please.
17:59So, you're not in any gang?
18:00No.
18:02What does I-N-O stand for?
18:05For wussies.
18:07I ain't no part of it.
18:09But you used to be part of it, didn't you?
18:13Yeah.
18:14I used to be part of it.
18:16I used to be part of it.
18:17I used to be part of it.
18:18I used to be part of it.
18:19I used to be part of it.
18:21Was Danny a part of it, too?
18:25Okay.
18:26Let's go back a couple of nights, shall we?
18:28You're playing football with your mates.
18:30You saw this guy, Craig.
18:31He had his baby daughter with him.
18:32Correct?
18:34Tell me what happened.
18:36Nothing happened.
18:37Just words.
18:39Our ball went near his prem and he got angry.
18:41That was that.
18:43Right.
18:44Then later on, what happened?
18:47I can't really remember.
18:49It was like he'd just come out of nowhere.
18:51Rushed Kip.
18:53Go on.
18:54And Danny tried to help his little brother in it.
18:57So Danny and Craig fought.
19:00Did Danny put up much of a fight?
19:08So then how do you explain this?
19:13You say we did this?
19:15He said you were carrying knives.
19:17He claims you threatened his daughter with one.
19:19And you believe the white guy over us, innit?
19:21No, no, no.
19:22No, fella.
19:23We need to get to the bottom of this.
19:24We need to understand why this man acted with such force against your mate.
19:27Because he's a psycho!
19:29All right.
19:30But Danny's dead and you want to give his killer an excuse?
19:32Calm down.
19:33No.
19:34Well, there ain't one.
19:35We never had no knives.
19:37None of you?
19:38No.
19:39And I don't know who done that, but it wasn't us.
19:43I swear there wasn't.
19:45Moe swears there wasn't a knife when the fire kicked off.
19:47I hate to say it, but I can't believe it.
19:49Yeah, well, it ties in with what I'm hearing this time.
19:52Unless Danny had one that none of the others knew about.
19:55But I'm pretty certain they're all involved in this I.N.O. thing.
19:58And Moe seems to have fallen out with it for some reason.
20:00OK.
20:01Well, I think it's time to stir things up.
20:03I'm going to see what the others are going to say about it.
20:06Right, I'm going in.
20:15Mrs. Sulu.
20:17Mr. Sulu.
20:20Our investigation has thrown up some initials.
20:23I.N.O.
20:25And we're pretty certain it was something Daniel was involved with.
20:28And it would help us a great deal if we could find out what.
20:31Involved with?
20:32Yeah.
20:34Guys?
20:36It's not OK?
20:38Sorry?
20:40You promised!
20:42Kid.
20:45Go on, Chrissie.
20:47It was Danny's idea?
20:49What was?
20:50It's not what you think, Dad.
20:51No!
20:52No.
20:53Just...
20:54Just listen.
20:56I'll show you.
20:58I'll show you.
21:00I'll show you.
21:02I'll show you.
21:03I'll show you.
21:06So, if anyone asks which gang...
21:08Gang?
21:09I'm not a gang, Mum.
21:10It was an anti-gang.
21:12I.N.O.
21:14It's not OK?
21:16It's not OK to carry knives?
21:18It's not OK to do loads of things?
21:20Better pray you don't get shanked in a game.
21:22Road man on alert.
21:23Leave your body in a six foot deep dirt.
21:25If you flash at that knife then you're going to get hurt.
21:27Because carrying a shank is not OK.
21:31Thank you.
21:34Thank you.
21:41What's going on, Gov?
21:43What do you mean?
21:44Is there something I should know?
21:46With all respect, Gov,
21:48I believe this is a decent family and they're good kids.
21:51If they knew anything about gangs or knives,
21:53I think they would tell us.
21:55OK.
22:03While you were out saying goodbye to your colleague...
22:07I really think you should see it.
22:08Go on, Gov.
22:14Are you sure this took anyone?
22:15No.
22:16Get rid of it.
22:17I don't ever want to see it again.
22:25Are you sure this took anyone?
22:27No.
22:28Get rid of it.
22:29I don't ever want to see it again.
22:31You've no idea what it was?
22:33Well, it certainly justifies putting probes in the house.
22:37Unless...
22:40We thought Danny might be in a gang.
22:42Far from it.
22:43INO stands for It's Not OK.
22:45So?
22:46So Banksy was right.
22:48Danny was basically a good kid.
22:50We don't want to go charging in there only to find his soft porn stash.
22:53Obviously.
22:55We could use the surveillance team again.
22:57Get them to copy the hard drive.
22:59They're going to have to go back in at some point to take the probe out.
23:01Probably wait till the funeral.
23:02No, we need it before then.
23:05Sorry.
23:07It's Banksy.
23:09Yep.
23:10Gov, they finished the organ donation.
23:12The family are getting ready to go to the mortuary.
23:14Have a last look at Daniel.
23:16It's all a bit strained here.
23:18I don't know whether it's to do with that or something else.
23:21Any developments, Gov?
23:23Anything come up?
23:24No, nothing at this end.
23:25Are you OK to stay with them?
23:26Yeah, sure.
23:28OK, keep me posted.
23:29Will do.
23:30Well, now's your chance.
23:33Anything back from Craig's?
23:35Shirt, shoes, trousers covered in blood.
23:37His, and we think Danny's.
23:39We need to know more about this guy.
23:43When can I go home?
23:44We're still following the number of enquiries.
23:47I shouldn't even be here.
23:48Look, I'm not surprised at how angry you are to be in this situation.
23:52And as a father, I can understand how terrifying it must have been to see those boys hold a knife against your daughter's face.
23:58You know, how anybody could want to hurt a little child like that is beyond me.
24:00I know.
24:01I'd want to make sure that something like that couldn't ever happen again.
24:03Fight, fight with fire.
24:07So when you went back, did you take a knife with you?
24:12I mean, I know Mia was back home, but that doesn't change what happened to her, does it?
24:16I didn't have a knife.
24:18So what was their knife like?
24:19Was it a kitchen knife, a pen knife, what?
24:24It's more like a hunting knife.
24:26What colour was the handle?
24:27I don't know, brown.
24:28And this was the knife that Danny attacked you with?
24:31Yeah.
24:33Look, with your permission, if you don't mind, could you run it through for me, what happened?
24:37Because I'm just trying to visualise it.
24:39Could you stand up and just show me?
24:49Yeah?
24:50We're in.
24:53Okay.
24:55Okay.
24:58So just run me through exactly what happened.
25:03He tried to get me and I tried to get him off me and push him away.
25:10And I felt this terrible pain here and I looked down and he's got a knife.
25:15Yeah, okay.
25:18I thought he was going to kill me and somehow I managed to knock him over and I think I hit him a couple of times.
25:24You see, I've still not seen it.
25:26Let's just go through it, you know, step by step, alright?
25:28So I'm Danny, right? I've got a knife.
25:30So, what, the first thing he did was he...
25:32Just come straight in at you?
25:34He go for the other one?
25:36What, I mean, did he...
25:38Did he push you?
25:39Or did he grab you?
25:43Yeah.
25:44Alright, Craig.
25:46I was fighting for my life.
25:48Take a seat.
25:55So this knife that Danny had, where was it when you left?
26:00It dropped there.
26:03It was on the ground next to him, it was right next to him.
26:24Come on.
26:42Banksy.
26:43Cuff.
26:44What's up?
26:46They want a different pair of shoes, can't decide which ones Danny should wear.
26:50Right.
26:51What's going on?
26:54Don't tell me someone's inside.
26:59Tell me what the shoes look like, I'll go and get them.
27:02They trust me.
27:03Family trusts me, Gov.
27:04Yeah, I know, that's why we didn't tell you.
27:06Didn't want you to feel compromised.
27:08Feel compromised? I have been compromised.
27:10Chances are they'll never find out.
27:14I'd better get the shoes.
27:19So the house is wired?
27:20Yeah.
27:22We can pick up conversations in every room and a little bit of video.
27:27I thought the principal role of an FLO was to investigate.
27:30It is.
27:31So how can I do my job if I'm not in the loop?
27:35The family have just erased a file off Danny's computer.
27:39What sort of file?
27:40We don't know, and we also think that one of them did have a knife at some point, so we need to find it.
27:45I see.
27:49We just need some shoes.
27:51Yeah.
28:07So who else knows about this?
28:09Superintendent, Max, Stone, Joe.
28:13Have they all been listening?
28:14No, just me.
28:15Look, Banksy, if you want to stand down as FLO, it's fine, I understand.
28:21FLO.
28:24What about being a DC?
28:29I had to tell Banksy.
28:31So how did he take it?
28:32Yeah, he's fine.
28:33Good. So how long before we get a copy of the hard drive?
28:36Pretty soon, it's just a question of recovering the files that were deleted today.
28:39How was Craig?
28:40Angry. You know, whatever those boys did or didn't do, they chose the wrong guy and the wrong knife.
28:44And he swears blind that the knife was on the ground when he left.
28:47So, someone picked it up?
28:48Or he's lying.
28:49I'd say that 20% of what he says is rubbish.
28:51Trouble is, I don't know which 20%.
28:55Are these...?
28:56Oh, thanks.
28:57I want him looking smart.
29:01You found something?
29:02Yeah, go have a look at this.
29:05Looks like it was taken on a camera phone.
29:13Danny, the golden boy, flashing knives.
29:16Flashing knives.
29:18I don't want to play it, guys.
29:21I'll show this to Banksy and then we'll take it from there.
29:24But from now on, he's got to be in on everything.
29:31Thought we were a close-knit team.
29:34Sorry?
29:36I know.
29:37What?
29:38About the surveillance, Sarge.
29:40Okay, right.
29:41So I thought I'd spare you the embarrassment by letting you know that I know.
29:44I'm not embarrassed.
29:46Maybe that's the problem.
29:47What problem, Banksy?
29:48Because as I see it, you're the only one who's got a problem.
29:51The guy's very likely been traumatised by a bunch of black kids...
29:53Black kids? What's the relevance of that?
29:55What's the relevance of black kids got to do with this?
29:57You need to decide whether you're black or a police officer.
29:59What do you mean?
30:03I think you need to go speak to Manson.
30:05There's something you should see on the computer.
30:10Banksy.
30:11Banksy.
30:13Huh?
30:14Yeah, fine.
30:20No.
30:24Was this posted on the net?
30:26Not that we can find. Texted, maybe.
30:30What do you want to do?
30:32Well, ideally I'd wait a few days before we talk to the family,
30:34but with so many rumours flying around the Coal Lane estate, we need to move quickly before...
30:38anybody else gets the wrong idea as to why Danny was killed.
30:41Can I talk to them first?
30:43If that fails, come down on them as hard as you like.
30:48Okay.
30:49But obviously they don't know we've got this and I want it to stay like that.
30:54Go.
30:58I totally understand you want to protect Danny's memory.
31:02But the longer the truth remains hidden, the uglier it can get.
31:06When Danny went out the other night, did he have a knife?
31:09Oh, yes.
31:12He did have a knife.
31:14No. No.
31:15Mum, it's not me.
31:17It was only the first time.
31:19But I made him give me the knife, Dad, I swear.
31:23They all had them.
31:30I left you in charge of it.
31:32Mum! Dad!
31:33I left you in charge of it.
31:35Mum! Dad! It's not what you think.
31:38Last week, Mum was attacked for, like, no reason.
31:41And Danny went to sort it.
31:44But he just made it worse.
31:47And he knocked one of them over.
31:49And they promised to give.
31:51The knife knives, where are they?
32:04Mum!
32:06Oh, sweet Jesus!
32:11Thank you.
32:25Stupid lads.
32:28When will they ever learn, eh?
32:29Well, Craig's self-defence claim is looking more and more convincing.
32:33One knife is hardly a grey area, but three?
32:36Right, Max, I want you to interview them again.
32:39Let's get to the bottom of this.
32:41Well done, Banksy.
32:43Good find.
32:49Danny made the video to scare him off.
32:53You know, all of that.
32:55He was trying to be serious, but...
32:57he kept laughing.
33:00We thought if we just sent it round to everyone, then...
33:03maybe they might back off.
33:05Did you send it?
33:09I didn't know that Danny, Kip and Mo,
33:11or that they did it for real.
33:14And as soon as I found out, I made them give the knives to me.
33:19That's how I know that Danny didn't have one on him when he went out again.
33:23I know.
33:26It's not OK.
33:30It's not OK to carry a knife, that's what Danny said.
33:33But he did, didn't he?
33:38Which one was it?
33:39Which one did you carry?
33:47OK, then.
33:49Which one was Mo's?
33:56I don't know.
33:58I don't know.
34:00I don't know.
34:02I don't know.
34:04I don't know.
34:06I don't know.
34:07I don't know.
34:11And Danny's?
34:23That's good.
34:25Interview terminated.
34:2616-20.
34:30I've just checked with Eddie.
34:32There was no blood on any of the knives,
34:34so they couldn't have been used on Craig.
34:36We can't be certain that Danny didn't have some other knife.
34:40Anything from Mo?
34:42He's not telling us anything.
34:44I can't see us getting any sense out of him.
34:46Maybe he's pretty close to Chrissie.
34:49If anyone can persuade him, she can.
34:52Give it a go.
34:55He got attacked, beaten up.
34:58Someone made fun of the INO stuff.
35:02Danny tried to fix things, only made them worse.
35:04I ain't saying nothing to no one.
35:07It may seem like it, Mo, but the whole world isn't against you, OK?
35:18Mo.
35:20You OK?
35:21What are you doing here?
35:23I just wanted to talk to you.
35:24You've been talking to the cops, Chrissie.
35:26Mo, please.
35:28Just tell them what happened, yeah?
35:29Chrissie, seriously, just shut up, yeah?
35:31For everyone's sake, just tell the truth.
35:33You don't know what you're talking about.
35:35Just shut up!
35:43Chrissie!
35:45What are you doing, Mo?
35:46You don't understand.
35:47She doesn't understand.
35:51If I tell her she's...
35:53Tell her what?
35:55Her family's going to hate me.
35:56Her family's going to hate me.
36:00When you had the argument with Craig about the football, the first time you met him,
36:05who was it flashed the knife?
36:09Kip.
36:11Kip was just messing about.
36:14He didn't go anywhere near the baby.
36:16I mean, we just wanted our ball back and the guy was being a total div.
36:20What did Craig do when he saw the knife?
36:23Well, I imagine he must have been pretty scared.
36:26Yeah.
36:28Yeah, he was bricking it.
36:29Yeah?
36:30Sue's not giving us all that.
36:32So who took the knife from Kip?
36:35Danny.
36:37Yeah?
36:38Then what happened?
36:39The guy legged it.
36:41Taught him.
36:42But the next time you saw him, he didn't have his kid with him, did he?
36:46No.
36:48He was...
36:49He was what?
36:50Swearing and cursing at us.
36:52But we didn't have a knife.
36:54None of us did.
36:55How come?
36:56We'd been back at Danny's.
36:58We thought the guy was a joke.
37:01Chrissie hears us laughing but she didn't think it was funny.
37:05She went mad.
37:07Took the shanks off us.
37:09So when you saw Craig the second time, did any of you have a knife?
37:14Craig didn't know you weren't carrying knives, so why do you think he attacked Danny?
37:18He didn't.
37:20He attacked Kip.
37:22Danny tried to stop it, said we didn't want no trouble.
37:25So why did he attack Kip?
37:29Because he waved the knife around earlier.
37:32I couldn't say because I didn't want to get him into trouble.
37:36He attacked you?
37:41Why do you think he did that?
37:45Hmm?
37:46Do you think it's because he was scared?
37:49Because of what happened earlier?
37:55And then after the man grabbed you?
37:58Danny...
38:03It started fighting.
38:06Me and Moe, we...
38:08We ran off.
38:09Left him there.
38:24Well done.
38:27If...
38:31If you see Chrissie,
38:33if you see Chrissie,
38:35if you see Chrissie,
38:37if you see Chrissie,
38:40tell her,
38:42tell her I'm sorry.
38:44Of course.
38:52Only question left is,
38:54what we charge Craig for?
38:56Well, the CPS think the murder might be too risky.
38:59I mean, it depends if he really thought he was going to be stabbed.
39:02You want me and Janet to take him through?
39:03No, no, Neil and I have got a connection,
39:05so if we don't get what we need,
39:07I'll tear the hit.
39:09Right, see, that's why he gets paid the megabucks.
39:19We found the knives that the boys were carrying.
39:21In fact, we found three of them.
39:23Good. See, I told you.
39:25Yeah, they were scared.
39:27They'd been threatened,
39:29and they thought that by carrying the knives,
39:30they'd get away.
39:32Well, it acts as a deterrent.
39:34Deterrent.
39:36Yeah, trouble is, Craig,
39:38we couldn't find any of your blood on the knives,
39:40or at the scene.
39:43So, I'm showing Craig exhibit MT1.
39:46Now, these are photographs of the clothes
39:48that you were wearing on the night of the attack.
39:50As you can see, there's no cuts on them.
39:52How's that possible?
39:54For the knife to cut you, but not your clothes?
39:56Craig, the thing is,
39:58the second time that you met the boys,
40:00they weren't carrying any weapons.
40:02Huh?
40:04Yeah, but how's he supposed to know that?
40:07They stuck a knife in my daughter's face.
40:10What was I gonna do?
40:12I couldn't take that risk.
40:16He was pulling me arms, shouting.
40:18Exactly.
40:22I was trying to protect myself.
40:24So you hit him?
40:27Yeah.
40:30I grabbed hold of the little one,
40:32the one who'd threatened Mia.
40:34And then the big ones come at me.
40:36And he...
40:40He ducked and I caught him.
40:43And he went down and...
40:48He could have still pulled the knife.
40:50Yeah, of course he could.
40:52So what happened?
41:01Go on, mate.
41:05I hit him again.
41:08I hurt her.
41:14I swear to God, I thought he was gonna kill me.
41:21I was trying to defend myself.
41:28When I heard he was dead,
41:30I thought you...
41:35Well, it's only 16.
41:39You knew you'd gone too far.
41:47You cut yourself to make it look like you'd been stabbed.
41:52Yeah.
42:05I'm sorry for your loss.
42:09I'm gonna be holding a press conference shortly.
42:11And I hope by releasing some of the details of the case,
42:15we'll be able to defuse any more incidents on the coal line.
42:18Is there anything you'd like me to say on your behalf?
42:21No.
42:24Well, obviously the Crown Prosecution Service will be assessing the case,
42:28but at the moment,
42:30it looks like Craig Middleton is gonna be charged with manslaughter.
42:34Mans...
42:36What?
42:38My son was attacked and left to die in a gutter,
42:41and you're calling that manslaughter?
42:43The difficulty is, at some point during that evening,
42:45your son was carrying a knife.
42:48And what?
42:50It's his own fault that he's dead? Is that what you're saying?
42:53Mary, we have to learn to forgive,
42:56forgive Chrissie for Danny.
42:58This is not about forgiveness.
43:00My son did not start that fight.
43:03He was not carrying a knife when he went out.
43:05All he tried to do was to save his brother and defend himself.
43:08That man came out with evil in his heart,
43:11and that is murder, and you know it is!
43:13You know that!
43:16Please!
43:19Make them disappear now!
43:23Is it true all three boys were carrying knives?
43:29Listen,
43:31these were decent kids.
43:33They weren't part of a gang or anything.
43:36But if teenagers are going around carrying knives,
43:38aren't people like Craig Middleton gonna defend themselves?
43:42Yes, you're right, they will.
43:45I mean, these kids think that by carrying knives,
43:48they're protecting themselves.
43:50Well, they need a wake-up call.
43:52So you're saying Danny Sasulu deserved what he got?
43:54Now, did I say that?
43:56Danny Sasulu's death is a tragedy.
43:58But it started the moment he put a knife in his back pocket.
44:01It needn't have happened.
44:03He could be out there now with his mates playing football or whatever.
44:06But he made a stupid mistake.
44:08Now, this is not rocket science. It's obvious.
44:11Leave the knives at home.
44:14Because believe me, if you live by the sword,
44:17chances are you're gonna die by the sword.
44:20She's a pretender! She's a pretender!
44:40He keeps coming back at me.
44:41But it's all jumbled up.
44:44You know, putting pieces back together.
44:46That's what I do.
44:48I think we've been chasing the wrong bloke.
44:50Go on, listen to me. This is serious.
44:52If we're wrong on this, we're ripping this family apart for nothing.
44:55Kayla's a very attractive young girl and she's just lying there.
44:58Caitlin!
45:00I think most men would struggle to resist, wouldn't they?
45:02Ricky!
45:11Ricky!
45:42It's not, but all I did was kick the ball away.
45:45And then what?
45:47They said I had to fetch it.
45:49Fetch it way, way.
45:51Wasn't they getting it?
45:53And then the little one pulls a knife.
45:55The little one? You sure about that?
45:57I think if someone put a knife in your daughter's face, she'd know about it.
46:00He said he'd shank her if I didn't get his ball.
46:04So, what did you do?
46:06Well, you'd think I got out of there as quick as I could.
46:08But I thought he was threatening you with a knife.
46:09They was.
46:11But then they started arguing and one of the others grabbed the knife, saw a chance and took it.
46:16So then you met them a second time, right?
46:19Where was that?
46:21Manly Road.
46:23Mia was back with the babysitter.
46:26Benioffi was heading back.
46:29They were all there, laughing.
46:32The little one's shouting.
46:34Suddenly a big one's come at me and he's the one who slashed me.
46:37And I smacked him and I ran.
46:43Well, this changes everything.
46:45Yeah.
46:47If we're talking self-defence, we'll need to know whether those boys were carrying knives.
46:56Well, those wounds don't look very innocent.
46:59OK, everybody, listen up.
47:01As you've probably already heard, this case has now taken an unexpected turn.
47:04Craig Middleton is now claiming the boys had knives, specifically Danny Sizzulu, the deceased.
47:10It's our job to find out exactly what happened that night and there is no room for error.
47:14What it's worth, Gov, having spent time with the Sizzulus, I just don't see these kids as the type.
47:19They're good family, hard-working, church-going people.
47:22And I struggle to believe that Craig felt threatened enough to exact that sort of violence.
47:27It's disproportionate.
47:29Craig said he didn't even think Danny was badly hurt.
47:31He battered him.
47:32He was with his nine-month-old daughter.
47:34They fell into shanker, didn't they?
47:36Allegedly, and they're kids, 11, 15 and 16.
47:39He said he thought the guy who attacked him was 18, 19.
47:41Oh, please, Your Honour, she looked much older.
47:43No, I think he has a fair point.
47:45It was dark and Danny was a big lad.
47:47Sorry, sir, but this was two brothers, good kids by all accounts, out with a friend.
47:51Now, is that impossible without someone assuming they're in a gang or up to no good?
47:54No.
47:56Well, either way, we've still got a lot of questions that need answers.
47:57There are only two witnesses, Kip Sizzulu, Danny's younger brother, and their mate, Mo Campbell.
48:03Kip's not given us much and Mo's gone to ground, right?
48:06Yeah, he's done a run at guv, which doesn't look good, does it?
48:09Millie and Ben, they're going to take over the search.
48:11Good. Well, he's...
48:15So if he didn't have it, who did?
48:17No, no, no one.
48:19Kip.
48:21We didn't, Mum. None of us. We didn't. Honest.
48:23Listen, mate, the man in the fire, the first time you saw him, he had a pushchair.
48:27He kicked your ball away.
48:29Did you ask him to get it back?
48:34OK.
48:36He said you did.
48:38He also said that you had a knife.
48:41I didn't, Mum. I didn't.
48:44What is this?
48:46Please, Mrs Sizzulu.
48:48A man has murdered my son. You're trying to blame it onto a child.
48:50Well, he's told us that Kip held a knife to his daughter's face.
48:53Said if he didn't get the ball back, he'd shank her.
48:56No!
48:58The kid's lying.
49:00He and Mo are keeping something secret.
49:02He's never going to crack in there.
49:04And when are we going to find Mo?
49:06Well, I think Banksy's doing the best he can.
49:08Well, I don't think the eyes and ears of the FLO are going to be enough.
49:11And they're going to be as wary as hell from now on.
49:14What are you thinking?
49:16I think we should put some surveillance inside the house.
49:18Inside the house?
49:20Well, I wouldn't suggest it, but I could think of an alternative.
49:22And until we find Mo,
49:24we're going to get two completely different accounts of what happened.
49:27If we get a result, that's great.
49:30But if not,
49:32there's no need to tell the family, so it's a win-win.
49:37Better warn Banksy.
49:39No, because the more he's got to hide, the harder his job's going to be.
49:42Good, but we're going to be picking up on everything he says too.
49:45Yeah, exactly. So if we challenge him,
49:46he's going to be far too aware of it.
49:48He's not going to like it when he finds out.
49:50Well, we don't tell him.
49:52What, you don't trust what your officer's going to say in private?
49:54No, I would rather trust him with the knowledge of what we're doing.
49:57Like I said, the Cicillos may never need to find out.
49:59The same applies to DC Banks.
50:06I'll take it.
50:08Fine.
50:17What it's boiling down to is Craig's word against the boy's,
50:20and neither is coming across great.
50:22Mo's still AWOL, and the fact that Kip is only 11 years old.
50:26You could see in his interview,
50:28there's stuff he didn't want to say in front of his mum.
50:30Yeah. So with Danny dead,
50:32obviously we can't put any more pressure on the family.
50:34No surprises, they want to preserve his memory.
50:36So it could be months, if ever,
50:38before we get a clear picture of what he was really like.
50:41Crucial in getting a result, so let's find him, and fast.
50:43Also, there's none of Craig's blood at the scene.
50:44Nothing to prove Danny cut him, so we need to find this knife.
50:47And we need to get this absolutely right.
50:49Because either a good man goes down for defending himself,
50:52or a family fail to get justice for their murdered son.
50:55OK, let's do it.
50:59Banks.
51:02We're going to bring in the Cicillos again, OK?
51:05Gov, they're still raw with grief.
51:07Yeah, I know, but they need to know what Craig's been saying,
51:09and I want them to hear it from us.
51:11OK? Gov.
51:14Gov.
51:36She...
51:38The transplant lady.
51:40She was saying apparently that Daniel's heart is...
51:42Bleeding.
51:45SHE SOBS
51:47Very quickly it...
51:50But his liver and kidneys are still...
51:52Good.
51:56Right.
52:01Just to bring you up to speed,
52:05I know the timing couldn't be worse,
52:07and I'm really sorry,
52:09but an allegation's been made.
52:11It's been claimed that Daniel had a knife.
52:14SHE SOBS
52:16What?
52:18Daniel carrying a knife?
52:20There's no way my son would carry a knife.
52:22We need to check it out, speak to all the witnesses.
52:25There's no way.
52:27Mrs. Cicillo,
52:29I'm afraid we need to speak to all those people who were actually there.
52:36Couldn't we have got the boy on his own?
52:37No, his mum wasn't happy.
52:39According to Banksy,
52:41the only reason why any of them are here at all
52:43is that they're so angry about what Craig's been saying.
52:45This better work.
52:47And I want you to think about it really carefully.
52:51The other night when you were out with your brother,
52:54did he have a knife?
52:56No.
52:58Are you sure?
53:00Yeah.
53:02Because no-one's going to be cross with him if he did,
53:04and no-one's going to be cross with you either.
53:05He didn't.
53:07He didn't have it.
53:09On that basis, the superintendent presented a case to the AC
53:12and got the nod to put surveillance into the Cicillo's house.
53:15Right.
53:17Gav?
53:19Yeah. Thanks.
53:21So, um,
53:23we do the oboe, specialist team do the rest.
53:25Cool.
53:27They're going to be doing Danny's transplant operation soon,
53:29so I want you down at St. Hugh's to keep an eye on the family.
53:31Plane site's fine, there's loads of reasons why he could be there.
53:33Sure.
53:35Have you spoken to him, Gav?
53:37Yeah, but we want him to concentrate on being a fellow.
53:39Gav, I've spoken to Chrissie.
53:41Give me a few more places where Mo hangs out.
53:43OK.
53:45Oh, and pass that straight on to Ben.
53:47Yeah.
53:49I'd better get back to the family, unless...
53:51No, no, it's fine, thanks.
53:53Oh, right, so he doesn't know about it yet.
53:55Anyone got a problem with that?
53:58Thanks, guys.
54:06So, put in a probe in, I get the Sarge.
54:09But not tell him Banksy.
54:11The DI doesn't want to compromise.
54:13What about when he finds out,
54:15and then discovers most of us already knew?
54:17So? You can't always paddle in the shallow.
54:20Hey.
54:22Hey, get in on.
54:24Metagizi's trying to claim self-defence.
54:26A grown man kills a 16-year-old,
54:28and everyone blames the kid.
54:30Sometimes.
54:32Yeah.
54:33Tell me about it.
54:42The words needle, haystack, and I can't be arse bring to mind.
54:45Well, you might not be arse, VC Gayle,
54:47but Manson obviously thinks it's worth it.
54:49He just gives the only one who can tell us
54:51what happened either way.
54:53Yeah, I suppose there is the small matter
54:55of sending down the right person and all that.
54:57And all that.
55:00Right.
55:02Right.
55:05That's him.
55:07Move!
55:09No, wait!
55:21What's that, INO?
55:23Yeah, gang tag maybe?
55:25I'll call in, shall I?
55:27It's awesome, 795.
55:29I was told he came in last night,
55:31so he should be here.
55:33Check in.
55:38Right, sit down there.
55:40Keep your head up.
55:42Mr Milton, look straight in the camera, please.
55:51Head up. Eyes open.
55:53Now. Come on.
55:55Look at the night, it just deteriorates really quickly.
55:58There, look there.
56:05Ralph's brain dead around 10.30pm.
56:11Tell you what,
56:13the charge shoot just got a bit more serious.
56:24What?
56:40Yesterday you told us that you were on the coal lane estate
56:43between 8 and 9 the previous day.
56:45But you didn't tell us that you were involved in a fight
56:48with three lads.
56:50I told you I couldn't.
56:52I had my daughter with me
56:54and my ex-wife to find out.
56:56Breaking the restraining order that she got against you.
56:58Exactly.
57:00I didn't want this to come out.
57:02I'm a good dad.
57:04I just went round to see my daughter when my missus was out.
57:07Had a word with the babysitter.
57:09What, so your ex is out on the town
57:11and you had to sneak around to push your baby round the park?
57:13That must be really upsetting.
57:16Upsetting?
57:18Upsetting?
57:20Maybe someone had to pay.
57:22What?
57:24You're in big trouble, Craig.
57:26No, look, those boys come after me.
57:28They had a knife.
57:30We have two witnesses who say there was no knife.
57:32Yeah?
57:33Yeah.
57:35What the hell do you call this then?
57:37The suspect has revealed injuries to his left side.
57:40What appear to be lacerations.
57:42Sit down, Craig.
57:44It was me thinking this was going to be straight forward.
57:46Why didn't you mention this before?
57:48I was drunk before.
57:50Right, let's take this back to the initial encounter.
57:52When you first met the three boys,
57:54this was when?
57:56It was about eight o'clock.
57:58They kicked a ball at a push chair.
58:01She woke up screaming.
58:03I can't watch this.