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01:00Playoff beat, say you gotta know

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01:15Hello and welcome to Still Potable.

01:17We are here live in Dallas at Dealey Plaza,

01:20and we're here to talk about Boston Celtics basketball, folks.

01:23They are up three games to nothing in the NBA Finals.

01:26We are on the off day between games three and four,

01:30and B-Rob, we had the privilege of going to practice today

01:33at the NBA Finals, and what did we learn?

01:36We learned Kristos Perzingis is not done yet.

01:40He wants to get on the party, Packard.

01:42He is hanging out, shooting a lot of shots

01:45in the practice that's visible to the entire media.

01:47They had to know what was going on.

01:48The Celtics posted the clips of him shooting as well.

01:52Doing a lot of shooting off of one foot,

01:55but seemed loose.

01:58And the team is actually having a shoot-around on Friday morning as well.

02:01So I don't know, Packard. This is, I mean, this is

02:05not down the list of storylines in this series at this point

02:08with the Celtics up 3-0, but it is interesting to me that they're still

02:11working towards getting him back on the floor at this point,

02:14where it's clear that they don't need him in this series anymore,

02:17but it'd obviously be a nice morale boost for him

02:20to get out there for 10 minutes and close the deal in front of his former team.

02:24And it wouldn't hurt. There's no reason to mess around.

02:27Win the championship! If you can use Kristos Perzingis,

02:31it'll be incredibly helpful, and so

02:34it'll be interesting to see if he plays.

02:37Is there anything else we learned from the media today?

02:41In listening to the Mavericks talk,

02:44they seemed kind of resigned to their fate.

02:46They had a lot of responses about having to learn from this,

02:49about kind of getting better next year.

02:52Not a lot of hoorah, like, win one for the Gipper,

02:55we're going to get back into this series.

02:58Maybe that was just me reading into it, but it wasn't like the Mavericks,

03:01especially Kidd and Kyrie, seemed kind of resigned

03:05to what was going to happen to them.

03:08Yeah, I think adjustment-wise, I'm not sure where you go to

03:11at this point, and Kyrie, you know, he

03:14played his best in Game 3, pretty much as well as you're going to

03:17hope you're going to get from him in this series if you're Dallas,

03:20and it didn't matter. I guess the only thing that could happen now,

03:23Packard, and Luka, I guess, kind of spoke to this of being like,

03:26you know, I have to be better, I have to be more mature.

03:29Do you think he's going to start defending?

03:32Is Jason Kidd and Brian Windhorst going to fire him up enough

03:35where he is going to be

03:38trying for more of the games here? I don't know.

03:41I don't know if that's going to be a development that we see in a Game 4,

03:44or if that's something that's going to happen next year,

03:47or even ever for him, but that's, I guess, the storyline

03:50to watch here on Friday night.

03:53I do apologize for the motorcycle sounds in the background.

03:56I have insisted that we record this at the Grassy Knoll,

03:59and that's going to come with some consequences, folks.

04:02So if there's sacrifice audio, hand up.

04:05That is on me. We'll dive into all the brilliance that is

04:08the Texas Post Depository and the Grassy Knoll later.

04:11Another fun little thing today

04:14at Media Day, it's like a lot of the guys

04:17talk and don't normally talk. I got to be there for

04:20Xavier Tillman, and he was asked about his first conversation

04:23with Joe Mazzuolo, and I feel like we've heard this before,

04:26but it just made me laugh today. Joe Mazzuolo's message to

04:29Xavier Tillman. Joe Mazzuolo,

04:32one of the weirdest guys I've ever really encountered,

04:35told Xavier Tillman, don't be weird.

04:38And I just thought that was fantastic advice

04:41from Joe Mazzuolo, who I also learned today from Derek White,

04:44frequently walks around the practice facility

04:47just with no socks and shoes on, always ready to get

04:50in a grapple. So that was some fun

04:53little nuggets from myself at Media Day.

04:56Yeah, Derek also had a nice little gem. I think he was asked about

04:59one of his favorite moments with Joe Mazzuolo over time,

05:02and he referenced how he congratulated

05:05Joe about his Coach of the Month award a couple months back,

05:08and Joe replied to him that no one cares,

05:11which I think is

05:14at least to know that Joe's the same way with the media as he is with his players

05:17on that front with that award. But yeah, there was a lot of

05:20clearly pretty positive vibes today, pretty loose

05:23vibes, and why not?

05:26This is a team. I think everyone

05:29top-down, whether it's, I think Tatum

05:32took a fun, playful shot at the media as well in his press conference

05:35in terms of when he was brought up how,

05:38he's supposed to run a historic run right now if they pull it off in Game 4,

05:41and he was like, oh yeah, that's pretty cool, but

05:44you guys will probably knock us about our path and we'll have to do it again next year.

05:47So that's kind of just where

05:50they're at at this point,

05:53but the killer instinct still appears to be there at this point.

05:56So based on vibes, based on what's happened

05:59in the first three games of the series, what are you, I'm going to ask you

06:02for a general prediction for tomorrow.

06:05How did the Celtics come out? Do they come out with that

06:08killer mentality? Joe Mazzullo would say they're that much closer

06:11to winning the championship, so they're also that much

06:14closer to losing the championship.

06:17I don't know if that makes any sense, but I could see the Celtics

06:20maybe taking their foot off the gas a little bit as we saw in the fourth quarter

06:23of Game 3. I can also see the Mavericks, mainly

06:26Luka Doncic, who's clearly...

06:29I'm not making excuses, but I don't think he's in full health right now,

06:32and maybe he takes the path of just like

06:35not giving up because you're down 3-0 and no one's ever come back.

06:38Kyrie Irving, certainly capable of doing that.

06:41What are your thoughts about how both teams come out in Game 4?

06:44Yeah, I think we're going to get one last push

06:47from the Mavericks early in the game, and I think

06:50a big part of Game 3 is the fact that the Celtics took that punch and then

06:53erased that big lead by the end of the first quarter.

06:56And so, the crowd will probably be into it,

06:59but at the same time, ticket prices have come down.

07:02In fact, I wonder how many... if a bunch of Celtics fans

07:05try to nab a lot of those tickets and then just the atmosphere

07:08in the American Airlines Center is just not one that

07:11is still going to be

07:14giving Dallas any kind of a boost.

07:17Yeah, but the in-game narrator will beg the fans to cheer.

07:20The rim mics will be loud and obnoxious.

07:23There will be a weird Mavericks horse leading the laser light show.

07:26I didn't mention this on last night's podcast,

07:29but the guitar anthem was pretty fucking rad.

07:32That was nice.

07:35They had a nice red, white, and blue lights going on,

07:38and I believe the name of the guitarist was

07:41The Guitar Slayer, which I thought was pretty cool.

07:44And he played the lineup intros too, right?

07:47He was standing on the something, playing guitar stuff the entire time.

07:50I did think that was pretty cool, so shout out to him.

07:53About an hour ago, I asked you guys

07:56in the Still Potable chat for

07:59questions, comments. Oh, I should mention,

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08:20the NBA Finals here in Dallas here

08:23at Dealey Plaza, steps away from the grassy knoll.

08:26But we asked the fine folks,

08:29the people who are involved in the Patreons for

08:32questions just about an hour ago about the NBA Finals.

08:35We got 40 replies. Now, that might

08:38be an impressive amount, and I have to say, 20 of those

08:41replies come from LegendJoshuaB, so we got

08:4421 replies, which I still think is

08:47impressive. How many questions do we give JoshB?

08:50Do we have the filter for Josh here? I'm going to try and do my

08:53best to filter them out. Some of them are just

08:56personal ad hominem attacks against perceived enemies.

08:59So we'll start with those.

09:02Dave24, what are you doing?

09:05Yeah, let's maybe

09:08start with non-JoshB and then

09:11we'll get to the JoshuaB section of the podcast.

09:14Scrolling, scrolling.

09:17This one's just from Joe.

09:20Don't you hate pants?

09:23In the Dallas heat? Yes, yes I do.

09:26Thank you for the Simpsons reference.

09:29Do you remember that ESPN left Derek White

09:32off the top 100 players?

09:35Where does he fall next year in that list?

09:38I guess I'm more intrigued by that now after this season.

09:41I think he's top 70, top 60?

09:44I would say definitely top 50. Do you think they have

09:47five players in the top 50? Yes.

09:50Where does ChrisTapsPorzingis fall?

09:53Honestly, maybe Porzingis is the guy

09:56that's not in the top. I would put White ahead of Porzingis in

09:59terms of just based on durability and defense

10:02at this point.

10:05The numbers obviously are what they are, but

10:08for Derek White to go into a contract year right now after

10:11coming off of this season, he is going to be

10:14earning himself a mighty fine payday, whether it's from

10:17the Celtics or someone else, but as far as just

10:20staying in the league, I think he's just

10:23spring-rocketed himself to a place

10:26where he's not just a starter now, he's one of the better

10:29role-player starters in the league at this point.

10:32What a luxury to have him as a fourth or possibly fifth option for this team.

10:35It's pretty wild.

10:38I've just been thinking about the team building.

10:41They were able to get him for Romeo Lankford

10:44and a first-round pick and a pick swap.

10:47Top one protected.

10:50That's just an absolutely

10:53wild underpay

10:56for Derek White, who's been instrumental

10:59in this team. Kudos to Brad Stevens,

11:02who I think Bob Myers, I heard today, suggested

11:05that he was the true MVP finals MVP,

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13:09Here's a good question from a few years ago.

13:12If you could draft a whole new NBA team, would you draft

13:15Giannis or Brad Stevens?

13:18Whoa. Didn't Chris Manning say that?

13:21That was one. I would probably still go with

13:24Giannis. Probably Giannis, but it's getting closer.

13:27It's getting closer. Brad is making up some ground

13:30with this construction.

13:33This question's from Joe. If Joe were to throw a new

13:37wrinkle in for Game 4, what do you think it might be?

13:40Oh. Zone.

13:4324 minutes of zone to open the first half.

13:46I don't know. It's like, why change anything that's

13:49working? They've just been able to stay in their base

13:52defense and guard Luke and Kyrie one-on-one for this

13:55entire series, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

13:58You've got, like, them being pretty efficient. Not

14:01really efficient. Being decent volume scorers in Game 3

14:04and the Celtics were still able to withstand that,

14:07and I just don't see the need for any sort of wrinkle.

14:10The wrinkle might be just bringing Chris Tapps back.

14:13Yeah. I mean, that would be a pretty big deal because

14:16Toman clearly gave you all you could hope for in Game 3

14:19from a defensive standpoint, so

14:22trying out poor thing, even if it is for 10-15 minutes,

14:25that could be a situation where they might have to pull

14:28the plug on it quickly if he just isn't able to move as

14:31well as you would hope, but beyond that,

14:34yeah, you know, Patrick, this is as

14:37big of a story of the series as, like, Lucas struggles and Kyrie

14:40struggles, like, the Mavs supporting cast has been absolute

14:43trash, offensively in particular,

14:46and until they prove otherwise, and maybe they'll start hitting some shots

14:49and then you have to adjust if you're Joe Mazzullo, but until that happens,

14:52you just play the cards that have gotten you here to this

14:55point. Yeah, we saw a lot more Tim Hardaway Jr., a lot more JJ

14:58Why, by the way? That's a very good question.

15:01They went away from Derrick Jones. Like, Derrick Jones Jr. hasn't been very effective,

15:04but what other options do they really have?

15:07I mean, Hardy over, like... Well, Hardy got some more minutes as well.

15:10He played, like, four minutes, though.

15:13He played 11 guys last night. Yeah, maybe more Exum is the

15:16answer? I don't know. It does feel like Joe,

15:19and maybe this is a result instead of process-based

15:22analysis, and Joe would be furious with me for saying this, but it does feel

15:25like Joe is severely out-coaching JJ,

15:28not JJ. What the kid's name? Jason

15:31Kidd. Jay Kidd. JJ Kidd.

15:34Speaking of, B Chris asks,

15:37where does Joe Mazzullo now rank among coaches,

15:40and do you think it catches on that everyone's just going to be showing

15:43people getting choked out to teach a message?

15:46Yeah, I think this

15:49certainly safely puts him in the top 10 in the league,

15:52maybe closer to top 5 than top 10 at this point.

15:55Yeah, if you win a championship, I feel like you have to be...

15:58You know, you've got Spoh up there, you've got, you know, like, the Michael Malone's

16:01of the world, depending on what you think of Pop these days,

16:04whether there's a drop-off or not of him, but

16:07tactically, he has... There's been very few...

16:10I mean, clearly you don't have any question marks

16:13when you go 16-2 during a finals run, but

16:16certainly there's been a lot he's done that's really helped his team,

16:19and for them to come through in those crunch time spots

16:22along the way here has been big,

16:25and tactically, what he's done with, like, putting

16:28Drew in the dunker spot and things like that to really

16:31take advantage of what the Mavs have tried to do, I think he

16:34deserves some credit for that. Yeah, and I think he's...

16:37All the questions about, like, timeout and things like that,

16:40which I think we're so overblown

16:43because people get so concerned about regular season

16:46games and, like, possibly not having it.

16:49The fact that the Celtics have won so many close games

16:52during this playoff run, I think

16:55shows the preparation they do in terms of, like,

16:58we want you to be ready for absolutely anything, we want

17:01the unexpected to happen, and I think

17:04Mazzullo deserves a lot of credit because it feels like that's what he

17:07stresses of being like, anything can happen, you need to be ready

17:10for whatever this game throws at you. You give up a 22 run

17:13in the NBA Finals, make a play and figure out what's going to happen

17:16and it feels like throughout this entire playoff run,

17:19when they have had these moments where they haven't, like, performed

17:22up to their expectations, they've done a very good job

17:25of answering the bell, whether it's game one of the Pacers

17:28series, of figuring out just a way to win,

17:31and I think Mazzullo deserves a lot of credit

17:34just because that's what the whole process

17:37is, is like, you guys need to be ready for absolutely anything,

17:40we're going to lean into the uncomfortable, and there's been plenty of moments

17:43where the Celtics could have been uncomfortable, but they've found ways to win,

17:46I'm going to give credit to Joe for that.

17:49And how much do you think that is also personnel, too,

17:52of, like, having the guys now, of like, you know,

17:55Oh yeah, the Celtics are extremely talented basketball team,

17:58No, but like, smart in those moments,

18:01broad in those moments, I feel like those are guys, over time, where

18:04it just wasn't, they

18:07wouldn't make questionable decisions or try to do a little bit too much

18:10out of their comfort zone, where now

18:13everyone seems to just, like, know their role in the

18:16spot of being like, okay, I'm there for the kickouts,

18:19if you're Drew Holiday or Al, or

18:22now Jalen, I think, is just in his comfort zone of getting to the rim,

18:25looking for the kickout first, over the finish,

18:28it is, just like, everyone,

18:31it took a while for a lot of people on this team, but

18:34everyone seems to be there during this run.

18:37We have a question from Ben F.

18:40Not including the town, which Boston-based movie

18:43do you think Missoula is most likely to force the Celtics to watch?

18:46My immediate answer is...

18:49Fever pitch?

18:52It could be fever pitch, he doesn't strike me as a rom-com kind of guy,

18:55he's not really, my immediate answer was Boondock Saints,

18:58because I don't really remember the plot to that,

19:01I think he should just show them goodwill hunting.

19:04Yeah, where do you think he stands on goodwill hunting?

19:07Yeah, you guys are a bunch of geniuses who need to leave town to fulfill your destiny,

19:10and it's not your fault.

19:13But no, he does hold people accountable, so it is your fault.

19:16That's a good question.

19:19Could see him going either way on that one.

19:22Another one from Ben, is Luka Doncic fated to be this generation's

19:25James Harden?

19:28I think that's a little harsh.

19:31Obviously Luka does not have the best series.

19:34But this is his first appearance in the finals.

19:37James Harden has been to one finals.

19:40When he was a sixth man.

19:43When he was a sixth man, he was not the kind of leader of that team.

19:46He failed in the playoffs.

19:49I do think there's some similarities in terms of, especially with Luka scoring

19:52eight points in the three-fourth quarter so far,

19:55not coming up down the stretch.

19:58But I don't think this is the end of Luka.

20:01I think he's certainly more likely to come back.

20:04I think he's too talented of a player.

20:07Certainly I think he needs to be in better shape.

20:10I don't know how much injury is going on right now.

20:13I also just don't think the Mavericks are a very talented team surrounding him.

20:16And I think if Nico Harrison puts better players around him,

20:19I think Luka Doncic and the Mavericks will have a better chance of getting

20:22back to the finals and winning.

20:25You could honestly say that Luka has done more in the playoffs than Harden has,

20:28period, to this point.

20:31Harden, for every good game he's had in the playoffs,

20:34has had two or three duds in clutch spots.

20:37And Luka has got a team here now that no one expected to get to the finals.

20:40But with that said,

20:43there are defensively the same questions are there.

20:46And I do wonder, what can they add to this Dallas team?

20:50Kyrie, I think, is probably going to get worse as opposed to getting better

20:53at this stage of his career.

20:56And they spent all their picks to get rid of Grant Williams,

20:59get PJ Washington, and Daniel Gafford.

21:02Derek Lively is going to have to really develop well.

21:05They have a lot of reliance on him getting a lot better.

21:08And he hasn't really shown in his playoffs.

21:11But he is a rookie and he is 19 years old.

21:14So I think it's going to be interesting.

21:17I don't think we can fully slander Luka

21:20as much as Chad and the person who asked that question

21:23is wanting us to slander Luka at this point.

21:26It's a fair question, though. I want to keep an eye on him for the long term.

21:29Okay, let's dive into the Joshua B. questions.

21:32Who's the best player in the finals?

21:35I'm going to say Jalen.

21:38Who are second through tenth best players in the finals?

21:41I'm going to say Jalen, Jason, Drew,

21:44Luka, Derek White,

21:47Al Horford,

21:50Xavier Tillman,

21:53Kyrie Irving, Sam Hauser,

21:56Kristaps Porzingis,

21:59and Daniel Gafford.

22:02The definitive list.

22:05Nailed it.

22:08Making fun of Luka from Josh B.

22:11Asking if Luka is going to play in Game 4.

22:14Oh, did you see the Jeff Van Gundy news, by the way, today?

22:17I saw Jeff Van Gundy at practice. Yes, he was.

22:20But I did not see any news about him.

22:23So I believe Mark Stein reporting that the Clippers

22:26are looking to add him to Tyloo staff

22:29as a prominent top assistant.

22:32Are we sure that wasn't just leaked by some sort of Jeff Van Gundy?

22:35What's his relationship with Mark Stein?

22:39Fair to ask.

22:52It's a good team to pick in terms of trying to generate some leverage.

22:55The Lakers are not as much of a good team

22:58because they are what you call a poverty franchise.

23:01I take no joy in saying that.

23:04But I wonder if Jeff will talk to us on the way out the door.

23:07He's been in Boston here since he's been hired.

23:10If they do pull it off, I wonder if he will speak on the way out

23:13just to add some more clarity of his vision

23:16of how he saw things behind the scenes.

23:19This one's from Josh B.

23:22Are Drew and Derek White the best defensive backcourt of all time

23:25or among the best? Who would you have above that?

23:28I've done no planning and no research for this.

23:31I can't think of people who immediately come to mind

23:34as a better, more talented defensive backcourt.

23:37But I don't have the deep ball knowledge

23:40that I think you or Jake have.

23:43In recent memory,

23:46you had two all-defensive guys in the backcourt.

23:49How many teams have had that, period?

23:52In my lifetime, I'd imagine next to none.

23:55I'm just trying to think, over the last 20 years,

23:58who was considered the best defensive guard? Gary Payton?

24:01I don't remember any shooting guards that Gary Payton played with

24:04that was known.

24:07Payton and Hershey. I don't think Hershey Hawkins was much a defender.

24:10Drexler and Porter with the Blazers in the early 90s,

24:13that's a pretty good defensive backcourt.

24:16Do you count Scottie and Michael as a backcourt?

24:19Yeah, that's true.

24:22But I certainly think that Drew and Derek are such a luxury, man.

24:25They just do everything.

24:29Maybe Brad Stephens is the final MVP.

24:37Talking about the national media,

24:40not giving credit to this,

24:43it is kind of crazy.

24:46I think Jay and I were talking about this when we walked over the arena today,

24:49and I think I saw 89% of the bets were on the Mavericks

24:52this series.

24:55I understand it somewhat in that

24:58Jimmy Butler was hurt, Donovan Mitchell was hurt,

25:01Tyree Salaburton left,

25:04but it was just such a rush to discredit the Celtics and anoint

25:07some team from the Western Conference, whether it was the Nuggets,

25:10then the Timberwolves, then the Mavericks.

25:13We're watching a historically great basketball team

25:16that potentially could go 80-20 as the best net rating ever.

25:19It's kind of shocking how,

25:22and I just don't know why people wanted to search for a reason

25:25not to believe in them,

25:28but it feels like that's been the general approach of the national media

25:31heading into these finals.

25:34Yeah, I think it's just easier.

25:37They want stuff to debate, and it's tough to debate.

25:40I guess you could debate where they stand greatest,

25:43but that's a debate for after they win, and it's easier

25:46now to just try to knock them down a few pegs and really question,

25:49you know, are they really done here?

25:52But now, when they're on the verge of having the fourth-best

25:55playoff record in NBA history,

25:58then those conversations seem foolish because this is a team

26:01that matches up with, like, they've done this all regular season.

26:04This isn't like a coming-out-of-nowhere-everything-came-together situation.

26:07This was like, nope, this is what the metrics said they would be in the regular season,

26:10and now they're living up to it in the postseason.

26:13The NBA Finals are here, and I can't think of a better time

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27:40I'm going to read this one from Josh Weave because it's flattering to me.

27:43As a new lawyer and one of the preeminent voices of Celtics Nation,

27:46Jam, do you ever aspire to be a judge

27:49so you can condemn the national media's coverage of the Celtics

27:52while simultaneously condemning a criminal offender to a sentence?

27:55No. It doesn't seem like a fun position,

27:58more for the latter part.

28:01I can condemn the national media for my position as a professional sports fan right now.

28:04I don't need to put on a judicial robe.

28:07But that was a fun one.

28:10Would you ever want to be a judge, B-Rob?

28:13No. No.

28:16It's a real burden. Seems like a lot.

28:19My dad was a judge for a while. He did not like it.

28:22He just had to deal with people shoplifting steaks from a supermarket.

28:25That doesn't seem like a good time.

28:28That story is about the one time I watched my dad.

28:31Ari asks, as a podcast community, can we raise money to buy the Bucks

28:34front office plastic rings for gifting us Drew?

28:37It's a nice idea, Ari.

28:40But how much money do you need to raise to buy four or five people plastic rings?

28:43I think you could probably donate that yourself.

28:46But do you think they feel stupid for

28:49gifting the Celtics Drew holiday?

28:52Yes. I agree. I think.

28:55There's no way they do not.

28:59If you're the Bucks now, I don't know how you

29:02take down. You don't have anything else to add to your team now.

29:05You're relying on

29:08Lillard and Bill. All those guys just not to

29:11age to the point where

29:14the fall off is too much to match this.

29:17I guess we never saw these teams go head to head at full strength.

29:20But at the same time, when is that going to happen now for the Bucks

29:23given what the track record of those injuries now are?

29:26The regular season matters.

29:29It's always been in the NBA

29:32and that's why I love basketball.

29:35It is the best meritocracy of all the sports.

29:38If you're dominant in the regular season, generally that results

29:41in you being dominant in the playoffs.

29:44Building up championship habits,

29:47being prepared for all these moments.

29:50There's a reason why repeated success is rewarded in basketball.

29:53The Bucks all season, despite starting

29:5633-3 or whatever the record was

29:59when they fired Griffin, it wasn't 33-3.

30:02That would be an amazing start.

30:05It was good, but they never had a good defense this year.

30:08It certainly would have been a more challenging opponent.

30:11But I think the Celtics, there's no reason to doubt them

30:14at this point just because of their continued dominance

30:17for the entire year.

30:20Millie's there. Philly obviously thinks they can go get someone.

30:23But even that situation with Embiid now,

30:26we know how that's gone the last few years.

30:29Embiid's entering the wrong side of 30.

30:32Then the rest, the up-and-coming, the feisty Pacers,

30:35all these teams are like, yeah, they give it all a shot,

30:38but it's hard to see any team

30:41beating this core group in a seven-game series anytime soon.

30:44We've gotten to the junk portion of the questions.

30:48Yeah, sure. I'll give a call.

31:00I don't see why you have to pick.

31:03I was always a big fan of Baltic and Mediterranean

31:06just because I felt like I liked having a little purple.

31:09The first ones, you build up some hotels on there.

31:12It's a nice little money generator.

31:15Yeah, I've played way better board games.

31:18Monopoly takes forever. It's not good.

31:21Gimme Catan. Yeah, Catan's better.

31:24I've played some way nerdier games.

31:27Branch out, folks. You don't have to play Monopoly anymore.

31:30T-Money, the famous T-Money asks,

31:33what is fun to do in Dallas?

31:36You're looking at it, folks.

31:39Dallas is a weird city. There's nothing really going on

31:42in the downtown. It's very spread out. It's very hot.

31:45Very hot?

31:48I don't know. I've only been here for less than 24 hours.

31:51Barbecue?

31:54Yeah. I do hate pants.

31:57And Jeff asks,

32:00is Luca responsible for JFK?

32:03Did you guys investigate? That's why we're here, Jeff.

32:06November 23, 1963.

32:09A special motorcade starts down on Elm Street,

32:12right about here. Well, it didn't start there.

32:15It started at the airport.

32:18JFK is doing his Texas tour, trying to, you know,

32:21reassure things up before the 1964 election.

32:24Who's in the 6th floor of the Texas Book Depository

32:27up there? Lee Harvey Oswald.

32:30Now, he brought in a large,

32:33what looked to be a gun. We don't know if it was a gun.

32:36A large newspaper covering.

32:39And so the motorcade turns onto here.

32:42I forget the name of this road. I think it's still Elm Street.

32:45Shots ring out. Boom, right there. X.

32:48Albert Sapruder is standing on the grassy knoll

32:51right behind us, filming this on his 8mm camera.

32:5426 seconds of footage. The only person

32:57to get the entire document on film.

33:00And now,

33:03B-Rob, you're not, and Sean, I'm clearly way

33:06much more of a JFK conspiracy nerd. As soon as I got to Dallas,

33:09I was like, we gotta go to Dealey Plaza. And everyone else was like,

33:12yeah, no, I just think it's kind of a road.

33:15This is where it all went down, folks.

33:18My first reaction into being in Dealey Plaza is that

33:21from the Book Depository to here, kind of an

33:24easy shot. I thought, I was made to believe that

33:27there's no way the man could pull it off.

33:30I think it's possible. But, we're not going to be able to get this in camera.

33:33There is an industrial train

33:36line right there

33:39that is in clear distance of where the second

33:42shot rang out, about 20 feet that way.

33:45And that is where the fatal shot was shot by some member of the CIA.

33:48My theory is that Lee Harvey Oswald

33:51was a patsy, and that the CIA,

33:54the anti-Castro Cubans, and the mafia

33:57conspired together to take out Kennedy

34:00and they put Lee Harvey Oswald in

34:03kind of a sleeper agent.

34:06Now I'm rambling. Now I'm getting a little bit excited.

34:09But why was Lee Harvey Oswald allowed to defect to Russia?

34:12So give up his American citizenship, right?

34:15This is the middle of the Cold War. The Bay of Pigs just happened.

34:18We just had 10 days in October in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

34:21And we're just letting a Russian sympathist

34:24come back. And the CIA and everyone just lets him come back

34:27and then starts giving him jobs and has all sorts of contacts with him

34:30here in Dallas. Doesn't make any goddamn sense, B-Rob.

34:33You might have to start a podcast about this.

34:36Oh, if only there was a podcast about the JFK assassination.

34:39I do think we are the first podcast

34:42to be recorded at Daily Plaza about the Boston Celtics.

34:45I do think we're pioneers in that regard.

34:48Yeah.

34:51I enjoy seeing how geeked up you are about this, though.

34:54Yeah, I didn't realize how much of a giant f***ing nerd I was about this.

34:57I feel bad because I'm not getting all the facts correct.

35:00But yeah, here we are.

35:03Grassy Knoll.

35:06I think it's kind of unlikely.

35:09Because one of the main theories is that the second shooter

35:12was hanging out here on the Grassy Knoll.

35:15That just doesn't make any sense.

35:18No one would have seen a man with a gun.

35:21But it's that train tracks over there, overlooking.

35:24It's where the second shot was fired, over here.

35:27Tougher shot from the Texas Book Depository.

35:30Much easier shot from there.

35:33And it fits much more in line with the magic bullet theory.

35:36Now, I was explaining to my friends here the magic bullet theory.

35:39You guys don't know.

35:42The second shot goes through the back of JFK's neck,

35:45goes through the wrist, and then ricochets around.

35:48It makes no goddamn sense. It doesn't follow physics.

35:51I think a couple of months ago, they actually found another bullet

35:54that they had not included in the Warren Commission's investigation,

35:57which basically confirms there were more shots

36:00than in the actual investigation.

36:03There had to have been a second shooter, folks.

36:06And my guess is it was right on that goddamn f***ing bridge right there.

36:09And the whole world changed because of it, folks.

36:12We're about history.

36:15And we're about basically just allowing me to do my nerdy ideas.

36:18I think that's mostly what we're about.

36:21And so I thank you guys for indulging me.

36:24And we could be seeing more history tomorrow night.

36:27Yeah, we could. Revenge, some would say.

36:30For Dallas, the city of Dallas, taking one of

36:33New England's finest sons in JFK.

36:36The Sellecks came back and got revenge.

36:39And I thank Sam Sheehan for pioneering that too.

36:42You got anything else for us?

36:45That's all I got.

36:48I would say do your own research, folks.

36:51But the Warren Commission

36:54clearly has been lying to us for years.

36:57There are still files they won't release to the public.

37:00Actually, if you do want to listen to it,

37:03Rob Reiner, for some reason,

37:06the director of When Harry Met Sally and Soledad O'Brien

37:09recently had a 12-part podcast explaining everything.

37:12They do a pretty good job, folks.

37:15I never thought I'd say the phrase

37:18reporting live from Dealey Plaza.

37:21I'm Jan Packard.

37:24But for Brian B. Rob, Rob of MassLive.com,

37:27for me, for Sean behind the camera, for Jay King,

37:30who refused to come and experience any sort of cultural affairs.

37:33He's actually doing work and writing the story.

37:36But thank you guys for listening.

37:39We'll be back tomorrow for whatever happens after Game 4.

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