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00:00:00Can you say hard hats, folks?

00:00:08Hard hats, lunch pails, steel tool, boots.

00:00:10Anything short of a championship this year is a fail.

00:00:12Look at this boomer right here.

00:00:14You've just got so much talent here.

00:00:16Somebody said we need to apologize for Jaylen.

00:00:18Can I pull the John?

00:00:19What are we apologizing for?

00:00:20What did we say?

00:00:21What did we do?

00:00:22Let's go.

00:00:34Wow.

00:00:35Here we go.

00:00:36Three oh.

00:00:38Hard hats, lunch pails, steel-toed boots.

00:00:43Let's go, boys.

00:00:44How we feeling?

00:00:46We're still ... What a game.

00:00:48We're still exhaling after that.

00:00:50I get a lot of ...

00:00:52I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna

00:00:55lie. I'm not being said I still

00:00:58wasn't believe it or not wasn't

00:01:02worried. Fully annoyed. Three

00:01:06but yes. I gotta say I was I

00:01:09wasn't the comments individual.

00:01:12Yeah. The Celtics held it out.

00:01:17Wow X. everybody in here that's

00:01:20gonna have to go report in a

00:01:22little bit so we'll get Bobby

00:01:25to start. Yeah this is their

00:01:28vintage championship when they

00:01:30talk. Punch up to punch up to

00:01:32punch in the Madison this one

00:01:33Dallas played pretty well

00:01:35across the board here that's

00:01:36role player contributions

00:01:38Washington woke up a little bit

00:01:40you had that hot hot start.

00:01:41Twenty five to twelve for

00:01:43Dallas and this place. Was

00:01:45bonkers I mean what a crowd

00:01:47what an atmosphere for this

00:01:49all year I mean this place is.

00:01:51I don't know if it was a

00:01:52building or what about the

00:01:53Celtic stop enough with the

00:01:55crowd I mean they- yeah and

00:01:57then they come out of it. Yeah

00:01:59they took him out of it you got

00:02:01bench contributions. Brown

00:02:03working off each other in the

00:02:04third quarter. Incredible I

00:02:07mean as the most I've seen the

00:02:08passing to each other playing

00:02:09off each other ever. And that's

00:02:11that to me and then of course

00:02:12you have that. All collapse in

00:02:14the fourth quarter. But pretty

00:02:17methodical stuff to get

00:02:18stretchers out of the game and

00:02:18up. Three with five twenty five

00:02:20to go to hold on it's pretty

00:02:22impressive because- that could

00:02:23have gone the other way. That

00:02:25could have piled on to a big

00:02:27Celtics deficit. The other

00:02:28direction we've seen playoff

00:02:29games like that from them in

00:02:30the past. Game seven against

00:02:32Cleveland in eighteen certainly

00:02:33went that way. After a pretty

00:02:35big collapse there so. This

00:02:37this did it this did it I I

00:02:39didn't like how the game

00:02:40started all you definitely

00:02:41thought they were gonna feel

00:02:42that for Zingas lost. More

00:02:44based on how this game started.

00:02:45But Tillman did his job for

00:02:47the Celtics. And I think that

00:02:48the way that Warford piled up

00:02:49stop after stop. I just

00:02:51continues to be one of the best

00:02:53defensive centers in the league

00:02:54at thirty eight it's unreal and-

00:02:56they may don't just work they

00:02:57tired him out they follow him

00:02:59out. And Dallas is done the

00:03:01Celtics gonna win the

00:03:02championship. Well okay okay I

00:03:05mean they're they're sitting

00:03:06pretty they're sitting pretty

00:03:07Bobby. I would think we would

00:03:09all agree three oh lead looking

00:03:10good going into game four

00:03:12Friday night. Everything's

00:03:13going the Celtics way. The

00:03:15thing that I was really

00:03:16impressed with. Was the

00:03:19contributions from all over the

00:03:21all over this roster at certain

00:03:23points whenever you need I

00:03:24mean. Who had Tillman three

00:03:26pointer on their bingo card

00:03:27tonight did anybody did even

00:03:29anyone have that like. Let's be

00:03:31real. You had the house or

00:03:32threes you had Tillman shipping

00:03:34in. You had Jalen Brown.

00:03:37Unbelievable second half and you

00:03:39and you got to give Tatum his

00:03:40flowers for the first. For the

00:03:41first half and then hit the way

00:03:42he started this game and- and

00:03:44everybody made a point and again

00:03:46Derek white in the second half

00:03:47so. Two guys in the first half

00:03:49that no showed Brown and white.

00:03:50Come up huge for you in the

00:03:51second half. Tillman putting on

00:03:54a freaking. Manly performance

00:03:57tonight just coming up you can

00:03:59see the guys how how much they

00:04:01were loving. Tillman's

00:04:02contributions tonight that

00:04:03three- and just the defense I

00:04:05mean the defense on Luca even I

00:04:07mean this guy was- it was like

00:04:09he didn't skip a beat out there-

00:04:11you know as as bad as he's

00:04:12looked at points. Leading up to

00:04:14tonight. Gotta give him all the

00:04:15credit in the world for just

00:04:16being ready to go. Obviously the

00:04:18news that Porzingis didn't play

00:04:20you know wasn't gonna go tonight

00:04:21was was a tough one for- for

00:04:23everybody to hear I think. I

00:04:25think some of us had feared the

00:04:27worst but we're still we're

00:04:28still a small percentage of us

00:04:30that. Yeah maybe maybe you know

00:04:32what. Let's get into the good

00:04:34stuff. Yeah exactly so but point

00:04:37being John is that guy stepped

00:04:38up in his in his absence and

00:04:40you know. Tillman Hauser our

00:04:42prime examples of guys who just

00:04:43got back those were the minutes

00:04:44right there. Again you're a

00:04:47hundred percent right. Tillman

00:04:49that first little stint. Because

00:04:51he came in about the Porzingis-

00:04:53stretch there and it was at

00:04:54about the six minute mark quick

00:04:56quick quick shift in and out in

00:04:58three minutes didn't look great

00:04:59there and then a second stint he

00:05:00stopped. He stopped Luca on one

00:05:02drive got a piece of it stop

00:05:03Kyrie on another drive and he

00:05:05looked a lot more comfortable

00:05:06and he gave you exactly what you

00:05:07wanted there. In terms of his

00:05:09switchability on defense it's

00:05:10what it's what you want. Hauser

00:05:12was a rock on defense they tried

00:05:14this they tried to get switches

00:05:15onto him. He stayed in front of

00:05:19his guy all the time he

00:05:20contested he challenged that he

00:05:21knocked down his threes and that

00:05:22changes everything. The dynamic

00:05:25and that's really what happened

00:05:26in the third is the three

00:05:26started the drive. It's you just

00:05:29keep doing what you're doing. I

00:05:31thought the poise they came out

00:05:32like such grown ups in the third

00:05:33quarter there the poise and just

00:05:35sticking to the plan in the

00:05:36process and again Bobby I almost

00:05:38wish you didn't have that fourth

00:05:40quarter because we could just be

00:05:41gushing about how different it

00:05:43is and how different they are

00:05:44from. Well the difference this

00:05:46year is that you have the

00:05:47defense. Yeah yeah you have the

00:05:49defense to sustain those

00:05:51offensive lapses twenty twenty

00:05:52in the second right yeah fourth

00:05:54quarter your offense falls

00:05:55apart but you have just enough

00:05:57stops to grind this one out

00:05:59again I. I didn't foresee three

00:06:01point lead but this is the thing

00:06:03five minutes off but it was. But

00:06:05look as Louise puts it here the

00:06:06trust issues are gone and that's

00:06:08why I like even when they were

00:06:09cutting it I was getting annoyed

00:06:10because I the one thing they

00:06:12can't get out of their way with

00:06:13is is is that stagnation prevent

00:06:15offense which again is

00:06:17frustrating because it's not the

00:06:18thing I want to talk about

00:06:19tonight because it doesn't really

00:06:20matter I thought they came out as

00:06:22I said is it with such they came

00:06:24out in that third so just stuck

00:06:28on their plan they didn't waiver

00:06:29what they haven't done all

00:06:30series is at any time that

00:06:32anything Dallas has done that's

00:06:33working for them they don't

00:06:34change their plan to be like

00:06:35okay well we got to overreact and

00:06:37now change everything that we do

00:06:38to stop this or to combat this

00:06:40the threes weren't falling they

00:06:42were only shooting about a 33%

00:06:43clip I think was nine of twenty

00:06:44seven the second half but that

00:06:46the three point math is what was

00:06:48keeping them in the game at that

00:06:49point even though they weren't

00:06:51hitting them and they just stuck

00:06:52with the drive and kick game in

00:06:53the drive and kick game and that

00:06:55was that Jackson charades

00:06:56looking for a link can you send

00:06:57it out for him he's trying to

00:06:58set up and join us charade is

00:06:59also here in Dallas Bobby's in

00:07:01Dallas Joe Swayze in Dallas

00:07:02everybody's in Dallas. But you

00:07:05know what you know what's in

00:07:06Boston Jimmy his hard hats and

00:07:09his hard hats made it into TV

00:07:11garden how about that was that

00:07:13was that was that on the Celtics

00:07:15Instagram account so they shared

00:07:16the Instagram account with one

00:07:18of their affiliate I.G.'s I think

00:07:20Celtics community so they were

00:07:22doing a collaborative Instagram

00:07:24post where they sent a bunch of

00:07:26pictures around from their

00:07:27account so if you're on Celtics

00:07:29Instagram or you follow them one

00:07:31of the slides go a few and you'll

00:07:32see a couple people sitting in

00:07:34like the front row of the Celtics

00:07:35watch party site already rocking

00:07:37the hard acts I'm actually gonna

00:07:38tweet the picture out on the

00:07:40ceiling a Celtics account but

00:07:42unbelievable I mean we've been

00:07:43shipping these things out all

00:07:43week they are for sale right now

00:07:45in the merch store along with a

00:07:46bunch of other good stuff so

00:07:48check that out definitely code

00:07:50one more 20% off one more

00:07:53hopefully that code is live it

00:07:55should be.

00:07:57Thanks Jimmy yeah. Thank you for

00:08:00that thank you for those guys in

00:08:02the chat feeling generous right

00:08:03now I don't know what these are

00:08:04but I'm happy that I'm happy to

00:08:05have them and yeah we thank all

00:08:09of you guys again a couple good

00:08:11things it'd be it'd be a shame to

00:08:13not give Tatum his flowers

00:08:14because he remembered how to

00:08:16score in the first half when they

00:08:17did it when everybody else was

00:08:18ice cold and the threes weren't

00:08:19falling which was good and it was

00:08:21needed second half we're not

00:08:24going to talk about it as much

00:08:25but Jalen Brown 61 61 for those

00:08:28two combined on good efficiency

00:08:30that's what you needed that's

00:08:31what you needed but you know

00:08:32Tatum they got a little

00:08:33turnover late don't love it but

00:08:37again other than that other than

00:08:39that little spurt there I mean

00:08:40Bobby what was the building like

00:08:42when first of all the two moments

00:08:45that I think you know need to be

00:08:48discussed above all else is the

00:08:50Jalen Brown no joke dunk that put

00:08:53them up 15 legit took the soul of

00:08:57everyone in this building with it

00:08:59it when you could hear like a

00:09:00whoosh like a vacuum sound a great

00:09:04two for one two yeah and they

00:09:05lined it up perfectly which you

00:09:07don't get often and then they come

00:09:10out of that fourth and those two

00:09:11back to back threes unreal putting

00:09:13them up 21 and they needed it they

00:09:14needed every every bit of it hey we

00:09:16love you too I dream of us and we

00:09:18love love right now yeah we love

00:09:20all of you guys and we love being

00:09:22one win away at this point and

00:09:23again I know Bobby you're going to

00:09:24jump into the locker room in a

00:09:25little bit and get some reaction

00:09:26and there's going to be a lot of a

00:09:28lot of stay ready crew locker room

00:09:29guys worth talking to tonight as

00:09:30we said Tillman Hauser with a

00:09:32terrific effort you know

00:09:34absolutely to me that's the story

00:09:37of the series we thought they're

00:09:38going to have to go to so many

00:09:39looks defensively to slow this

00:09:41team they've just had one switch

00:09:43everything stop the corner three

00:09:46stay in front of your guy and

00:09:48sustain some of the runs that

00:09:49Kyrie and Luca go on and there

00:09:51haven't been many it Lucas just

00:09:52been horrendous in this series

00:09:54I mean on that twenty to six run

00:09:56that got the Celtics back in it

00:09:58he had pressured point blank at

00:09:59the post twice and just couldn't

00:10:01score and at that point he was

00:10:03one for six against Pritchard in

00:10:05the series if he's not going to

00:10:07be able to beat Pritchard one on

00:10:09one you're looking at a sweep

00:10:11here and the defense just

00:10:12continues to speak for itself

00:10:14there I don't know how you can

00:10:15have him over Tatum after the

00:10:16series like I said last game

00:10:18it's it's just not it's not

00:10:20going to be easy for him to

00:10:22and he obviously he's got brown

00:10:23and so running mate Kyrie and

00:10:24this one pretty good but man he

00:10:27missed some big ones that step

00:10:28back on Horford that I think

00:10:30would have cut it to one after

00:10:31the Celtics got that Tatum dunk

00:10:33I think it was they've got it

00:10:34back to form so this this is a

00:10:37tough one across the board for

00:10:40those two you can't really say

00:10:43anything about Luca following

00:10:44out there Brian just got a

00:10:45really good run and he's got a

00:10:47really good run and he's got a

00:10:48really good run and he's got a

00:10:49really good run and he's got a

00:10:50Luca following out there Brian

00:10:51just got him in transition good

00:10:53pace from Boston throughout

00:10:54this one especially at the end

00:10:56of the first day to really get

00:10:57back into the game in a hurry

00:10:59and then it's kind of tit for

00:10:59tat the rest of the way and you

00:11:01get the two big runs Boston

00:11:02going up 21 Dallas getting the

00:11:04back within one but some good

00:11:07offensive execution from Boston

00:11:08in the third and the defense has

00:11:10just been there the whole

00:11:11series and like you said it's

00:11:12everybody how's their surviving

00:11:14throughout this series we didn't

00:11:15even know if he was going to

00:11:16play in this series Tillman

00:11:17coming in after not playing for

00:11:19so long and Pritchard still

00:11:21doing his thing yeah so

00:11:23unlikely contributors on the

00:11:24defensive end doing a ton yeah

00:11:27such a team effort again just a

00:11:29gritty a gritty win it the way

00:11:31this game started you knew

00:11:32Dallas was going to come out

00:11:33with some sort of joke right I

00:11:35mean playing in front of the

00:11:35home crowd they got the best

00:11:37start they possibly could and to

00:11:39only be up one point by the end

00:11:40of that first quarter I think

00:11:41John you must have somebody

00:11:43texted to me yeah it was just

00:11:44like that's unsustainable you

00:11:46know you got that was also the

00:11:4837 points from your you got the

00:11:50big games from your stars like

00:11:51everyone was like you know if

00:11:53Kyrie wakes up you know and he

00:11:55did he scored 35 points and

00:11:57obviously you know I guess

00:11:58someone said it earlier you're

00:11:59right Jimmy but yeah it was

00:12:00unsustainable like you're not

00:12:01getting in from other people

00:12:03actually in that run the reason

00:12:04they made that run is they

00:12:05started other people started in

00:12:06Dallas started realizing that

00:12:08oh I've got to take and make

00:12:09some threes and they did and

00:12:10that helped get get them back

00:12:11into it during that 22 run

00:12:13there but you're right Jimmy

00:12:14that was not sustainable and you

00:12:15had to feel you were right you

00:12:17told me that but I know but

00:12:19you're saying it you're right

00:12:20no I don't think I don't think

00:12:22we've said it either but this

00:12:23team's on a 10 game win streak

00:12:25in the playoffs it's just all

00:12:27time stuff from this group we

00:12:29really are watching one of the

00:12:30greatest teams ever do their

00:12:32thing now and hit their stride

00:12:33and a lot of it we mentioned

00:12:34the two for one we mentioned

00:12:36the math game as well as

00:12:37playing in many ways here I

00:12:40mean his fingerprints all over

00:12:41it too so he deserves a ton of

00:12:43credit as well for a variety of

00:12:45things obviously the way Tatum

00:12:47and Brown are playing the roles

00:12:49white and holiday have

00:12:50developed within the offense

00:12:52too and then you look at the

00:12:53bench the way they've utilized

00:12:55them here I just that's what

00:12:56surprised continues to surprise

00:12:58me is that that group is just

00:12:59blasted persisted so well into

00:13:01the playoffs now we got Tatum

00:13:03walking off the floor with a

00:13:06lot of Celtics fans well a

00:13:09smatter I won't say a lot but

00:13:10enough Celtics fans to be

00:13:11making some noise here that's

00:13:13yeah I mean great it's a great

00:13:15night to be a Celtics fan in

00:13:16Dallas let's put it that way

00:13:18yeah you're not going to work

00:13:20tomorrow hopefully on Friday

00:13:21you know you're not showing up

00:13:22tomorrow Thursday Thursday

00:13:24work this team could do it here

00:13:25on Friday they could you know

00:13:29what I mean as we go because I

00:13:30want the weekend off it would

00:13:31be great for the other day

00:13:32right the same time sweep these

00:13:35bombs prove everybody runs been

00:13:37shitting all over this team for

00:13:38the last couple months make them

00:13:40how many people pick them out

00:13:42so many people who get ask it

00:13:45about they get ball Bobby they

00:13:46saw the game differently they

00:13:48saw something that the Mavs did

00:13:50well in the Celtics didn't do

00:13:51well that they had Mavs in six

00:13:53but put it this way there's a

00:13:56good let's go Celtics chant

00:13:57going on can you guys can I can

00:13:58you guys not gonna be Mavs in

00:14:00six no matter what and I'd be

00:14:02surprised if it was anything

00:14:03close to Mavs in anything so

00:14:07again I don't want you don't

00:14:08want to count your chickens

00:14:09before they hatch but so far in

00:14:11way in the series it's been all

00:14:13selfless Xavier Tillman is going

00:14:15to the podium tonight as he did

00:14:19well should as you do most of

00:14:21you know what when Tillman's

00:14:23ready one of these is one of

00:14:25these is really is waiting for

00:14:27Tillman tonight because that was

00:14:28a hard hat game man talk about

00:14:30being ready to go to work at

00:14:32stay ready that's it stay right

00:14:34yes that's the hard hat win him

00:14:36and Hauser get the hard hats

00:14:37tonight unbelievable bench

00:14:39performance room and that's what

00:14:40you need we have one of the

00:14:41questions that we've had all

00:14:42season along with this team is

00:14:44are they deep enough after six

00:14:46there's six deep if one guy goes

00:14:48down what's going to happen

00:14:49Bobby we've I was worried the

00:14:52last 30 games of the regular

00:14:53season we said you got to get

00:14:54these guys more playing time

00:14:55what if the situation arises

00:14:57where you're going to need to go

00:14:58to one of them and sure enough

00:15:00unfortunately that's happened

00:15:01with Porzingis so Hauser stepped

00:15:04up in a mostly forgettable

00:15:07playoff run for Hauser I think

00:15:09he's maybe had one or two games

00:15:10that he's really contributed

00:15:12tonight he really really

00:15:14answered the bell those three

00:15:15three three three three three

00:15:17three pointers in a row that he

00:15:19had just a quick release never a

00:15:21doubt that it was going down all

00:15:23night and then for Tillman to go

00:15:24in not just the three point that

00:15:25we're obviously all going to

00:15:26remember but the way he played

00:15:27defense John I think he meant

00:15:28that his ability to guard Luca

00:15:31Hauser's ability to get in front

00:15:33stay in front of his guys these

00:15:34guys won the game because of

00:15:36their defense and yeah Kyrie got

00:15:38his and Luca was you know doing

00:15:40some Luca things but overall

00:15:42they locked down when they

00:15:43absolutely needed to I know that

00:15:45that fourth quarter had that

00:15:47fourth quarter had more to do

00:15:48with their offense completely

00:15:50going stagnant and forcing shots

00:15:52and just ugly that was like the

00:15:54worst version of Boston for a

00:15:56good good 10 minutes there right

00:15:59after the best version of them

00:16:00right I know and it can sustain

00:16:02it now which is which is good

00:16:04they're mentally strong enough

00:16:05to not just crumble in that spot

00:16:06right I mean they came they came

00:16:08to the brink of it but the

00:16:09difference this difference the

00:16:12difference this year is that is

00:16:14those last three points right

00:16:16difference this year is is not

00:16:18letting it get to that point

00:16:19where in previous seasons it

00:16:21would get to that point it would

00:16:22go past that point and they

00:16:24would lose the game right so

00:16:27big shots by Derek White too big

00:16:29shot oh my god the biggest shot

00:16:31him and Brown he lead Brown I

00:16:34think White leads the league in

00:16:36in bailout threes when when the

00:16:39possession went to shit and he's

00:16:40just at the top of the key the

00:16:41one that he kind of banked in

00:16:42from from the top of the key on

00:16:44a possession that had completely

00:16:45gone gone to hell was a huge

00:16:48shot at the time for them

00:16:49because you know things were you

00:16:51know they were trying to who got

00:16:52the offensive rebound there too

00:16:54after Tatum's this was that

00:16:55Brown maybe a couple plays before

00:16:57that maybe so big plays there

00:17:02like like Jimmy said they yeah

00:17:03it was Brown so he gets to put

00:17:05back White gets the three Tatum

00:17:07gets that dunk on the drop off

00:17:08from White and there were two

00:17:10moments obviously you mentioned

00:17:11the Brown one John where he just

00:17:13dunks and silences the place and

00:17:14he showed into the rim Mike

00:17:16which you could probably hear on

00:17:17the TV and then Tatum did the

00:17:19same thing with two minutes off

00:17:20to put them up six there just

00:17:21shouting into the rim Mike which

00:17:22was pretty cool they go up six

00:17:24at that point and then Brown hits

00:17:26that icer from the free throw

00:17:27line it it's pretty fitting Tatum

00:17:30and Brown both go for 30 in this

00:17:31one because this is probably the

00:17:32best I've ever seen them play

00:17:33together especially in that

00:17:36third there were just so many

00:17:37passes between them they were

00:17:38looking for each other they were

00:17:39both getting there's back and

00:17:41forth offensively and both

00:17:43playing in a good pace good

00:17:45rhythm the offensive execution

00:17:47again until the fourth was

00:17:48really good in this one for

00:17:49them and that's why a guy like

00:17:50Luke ends up falling out of this

00:17:52one they just had him in actions

00:17:53from like the end of the first

00:17:55or the second on they never gave

00:17:57him a break in this one and that

00:17:58was you know I like the defense

00:17:59the team because what happens

00:18:01you shut down yourself the hook

00:18:02this year yeah and he shuts down

00:18:04offensively as a result how

00:18:05much I did complain about yeah

00:18:08how many came up how many how

00:18:09many shots came up short for him

00:18:11in the in the second half quite

00:18:13a few off the front rim he

00:18:15starts to get complete you know

00:18:16and he's and then he starts to

00:18:18take plays off defensively on

00:18:19the Jalen Brown dunk I mean this

00:18:21was a this was a high pick and

00:18:23roll with a switch where Luca

00:18:25just had the step in front of

00:18:26him and he just all laid it he

00:18:28didn't at any point in time

00:18:29pretend that he was going by the

00:18:31way Tatum's at the podium now so

00:18:33I'm going to get going to these

00:18:34interviews okay go do your

00:18:36interviews we'll get your rod on

00:18:38in a little bit I'm sure I was

00:18:39going to replace you right now.

00:18:40Bobby we'll see you in a little

00:18:42bit we're going to bring

00:18:42shrugged lately on as soon as I

00:18:44get the thumbs up from him.

00:18:46Bobby how can I miss you if you

00:18:47won't leave buddy.

00:18:49There he is.

00:18:51There he is.

00:18:51Is your rod on here.

00:18:53It's bringing what's up fellas.

00:18:56What's going on.

00:18:57You tell me.

00:18:58Wow.

00:18:59Wow.

00:19:00Take a deep breath.

00:19:02This is this was.

00:19:04This is an amazing game.

00:19:06This was one of certainly.

00:19:09So many times I've seen lots of

00:19:11drama lots of intrigue at it.

00:19:14And and this was again the

00:19:16Celtics they got it this thing

00:19:18out I mean there's there's there's

00:19:20so many little plays and they

00:19:21almost gave it away.

00:19:22I mean it's like Dallas took the

00:19:24game gave it back to Boston

00:19:25Boston put him up went up by 21

00:19:27and then the Celtics almost

00:19:28pissed it away at the end.

00:19:31Just a real serious gut check

00:19:33here obviously you know people

00:19:35are going to talk a lot about

00:19:36Luke of falling out with 412 to

00:19:37play.

00:19:39It's tough to suck.

00:19:41It does.

00:19:41But again the Celtics did what

00:19:43they need to do to get the win.

00:19:44I mean it's that simple.

00:19:45You you came down here wanting

00:19:48to put this series away.

00:19:49I thought that they withstood

00:19:51that first really hard punch

00:19:53that Dallas through Kyrie and

00:19:55Luke were just making

00:19:56everything.

00:19:56I think they made the first four

00:19:58or five shots found themselves

00:20:00down 22 9 and then he slowly

00:20:02chipped away and Jason Tatum you

00:20:05know and I tweeted about this

00:20:07before the game.

00:20:08Game three is the best game that

00:20:09Tate has played in every single

00:20:11series.

00:20:12He came into this game in the

00:20:13previous three game threes

00:20:15averaging better than 30 points

00:20:1611 boards and like seven assists.

00:20:18So him showing out in game three

00:20:21not a shocker.

00:20:24Good win.

00:20:25Good.

00:20:25And now it's like you see the

00:20:27finish line if you're the boss

00:20:28and Celtics you just got to

00:20:29finish the race.

00:20:30You just got to finish the race.

00:20:33You're not looking around the

00:20:34corner thinking we're almost

00:20:35there.

00:20:35No you see it.

00:20:36It's there.

00:20:37You're literally 48 minutes away

00:20:39from battery to.

00:20:41Yeah that's it.

00:20:42I mean honestly it's always

00:20:46tough.

00:20:46The closeout game is always the

00:20:47hardest game right especially

00:20:48you're up three oh you're

00:20:49feeling good.

00:20:50You know you maybe you take your

00:20:51foot off the gas there.

00:20:52There's there's you know there's

00:20:54a chance that Dallas could could

00:20:56end up with a gentleman sweep

00:20:57situation of course you know.

00:20:59But that being said it's it's

00:21:01got to be pretty clear to

00:21:02everybody who's watched this

00:21:03series that the Celtics are just

00:21:06the more dominant team.

00:21:07You know they're the number one

00:21:08overall seed for a reason.

00:21:10Dallas give him credit for

00:21:11getting to this point.

00:21:12I think they overachieved a bit

00:21:13to get here.

00:21:15They talk about lack of depth.

00:21:17Clearly they have they have a

00:21:18lack of depth because they got

00:21:20their points tonight from Kyrie

00:21:22Kyrie showed up tonight.

00:21:23You know you know to tip your

00:21:25hat to him.

00:21:26It's very clear very very clear

00:21:29that the Boston Celtics crowd is

00:21:31in Kyrie Irving's head because

00:21:32he's a completely different

00:21:33player and Dallas as he is the

00:21:36boss and so he should stop you

00:21:37know egging on the fans and you

00:21:39know acting like they don't have

00:21:40anything on him because guess

00:21:42what they do.

00:21:43You can see a clear difference

00:21:45in his play in front of the home

00:21:47crowd that you know has nothing

00:21:48but you know kind things to say

00:21:51as opposed to going on the road

00:21:52and dealing with a little bit of

00:21:55of that vitriol if you will.

00:21:57I think that's that's the

00:21:58demoralizing thing about this

00:22:00game Jimmy the fact that they got

00:22:02the Kyrie game they got a pretty

00:22:03decent loop the game and they

00:22:05still and they know for Zingas

00:22:08and no poisonings and a bad

00:22:10first half Jalen Brown and a

00:22:12non factor Derek White first

00:22:13half I mean there were so many

00:22:15things that were working in

00:22:17their favor for the better part

00:22:19of this game and at the end when

00:22:21it came time to get it done they

00:22:23couldn't in the Celtics did.

00:22:28Yeah you got to feel pretty

00:22:29dejected right now if you're a

00:22:30Dallas Mavericks player.

00:22:32Oh it was great.

00:22:33I love that.

00:22:34One of my favorite things about

00:22:34watching games on the road is

00:22:36that it's sad girls the sad is

00:22:38the sad fans.

00:22:40Well you know what though.

00:22:41They're feeling really good in

00:22:43that first quarter.

00:22:44It gets me every time right

00:22:45because because yeah you can

00:22:47because you're you've been in a

00:22:49visiting arena you know Jimmy and

00:22:51I know you're where we're

00:22:52professionals but like you feel

00:22:54it you feel it.

00:22:54And I remember like you know one

00:22:56that killed me was that Colts

00:22:58comeback in the 2006 AFC

00:23:00championship game with a fake

00:23:01noise pumping in and I'm in

00:23:03there and I could feel my blood

00:23:05boiling as that goes on.

00:23:06So yeah it gets it it gets you

00:23:08into it more when you're because

00:23:11then then you're like you you

00:23:13know like right.

00:23:15Yeah.

00:23:15And so it's not a win on the

00:23:17road to write and when you do

00:23:19that it is you're snatching

00:23:21souls and it really is a tough

00:23:23you know a tough tough thing to

00:23:25I mean look at the Celtics you

00:23:26know you know what happened with

00:23:27them with Golden State.

00:23:28You know you know coming back

00:23:30here and that just we're never

00:23:31the same after that.

00:23:32That's just a performance

00:23:34tonight.

00:23:34Great comment.

00:23:36Yeah.

00:23:37So you got that.

00:23:38We've got Jason Tatum at the

00:23:39podium we're going to put him up

00:23:41in just a second so we can

00:23:42already.

00:23:43We'll also say for those of you

00:23:45out there Jason Tatum doesn't do

00:23:46that often.

00:23:47He's got he might have something

00:23:49going on tonight.

00:23:49That's OK.

00:23:50Anyway what we do want to tell

00:23:52you about real quick is game

00:23:54four and I put this out as a

00:23:56tweet from our Celtics account

00:23:57in Dallas.

00:23:59Prices are coming down.

00:24:00You might be able to get into

00:24:01this game and you might be able

00:24:03to catch it.

00:24:03This is where Boston this is

00:24:05where you step up.

00:24:06This is where you swoop in and

00:24:08everyone's trying to sell their

00:24:09tickets because they know it's

00:24:11a lost cause and you come in

00:24:12here and you say yep and here's

00:24:14where you can show up and show

00:24:16up big in green here and

00:24:17potentially see the Celtics

00:24:19take home banner 18.

00:24:21Don't say it Jimmy.

00:24:22Don't say it.

00:24:22Don't say a word until I'm done

00:24:24with this.

00:24:24Never let me say something

00:24:25after nothing.

00:24:27Not a thing.

00:24:28OK.

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00:28:00own here's Jason just you know

00:28:04showing the emotions of the

00:28:05game to guys that was excited

00:28:10tired that you know after the

00:28:12game you know we just we're not

00:28:15necessarily saying like one more

00:28:18anything like that we just say

00:28:19however long it takes nobody's

00:28:21relaxed nobody is satisfied but

00:28:25you know just at that moment.

00:28:29You know it's not a lot of

00:28:30problems and he said the same

00:28:32thing and we got to keep

00:28:34fighting you know we can't

00:28:36relax and that was basically the

00:28:38conversation.

00:28:43I love when Tatum's jacked up

00:28:45like that it doesn't matter

00:28:46didn't it didn't feel like he

00:28:48was really trying to like keep

00:28:49himself composed you know we I

00:28:52love when he brings that kind of

00:28:53energy I can't wait for okay I

00:28:55don't want to jinx anything but

00:28:56let's just say the Celtics do

00:28:57pull this off I need a side by

00:29:00side like celebration of KG

00:29:02after they won with anything is

00:29:04possible and then I need Tatum's

00:29:06reaction we're just like yo you

00:29:07know it's like it's a happy to

00:29:10get this W. and I like this this

00:29:12is nice we got three thousand

00:29:13requests in here right now.

00:29:16It watching the garden report

00:29:18we're going to hang on here for

00:29:20at least another hour while we

00:29:21wait for these other guys to

00:29:22jump in here so again tell your

00:29:24friends join the stream we are

00:29:26just getting started here on the

00:29:28garden report and yet Jason

00:29:29Tatum let's talk about his game

00:29:31because he needed something like

00:29:33this and again it's let's throw

00:29:36out the yes I wish I could take

00:29:39the whole twenty to two run and

00:29:40throw the whole thing out

00:29:41because I talking about it or

00:29:44spending a ton of time on it

00:29:46when they ended up winning

00:29:47doesn't really matter that's

00:29:49where Tatum was at his worst

00:29:50during that prevent portion of

00:29:52it let's talk about the rest of

00:29:53the game and not that portion

00:29:54because look that would be the

00:29:56entire story if they ended up

00:29:58blowing this game and we would

00:29:59spend the entire show on it and

00:30:01talk about nothing else that

00:30:02happened but since they won we

00:30:04have the benefit of focusing

00:30:05only on the good things- that

00:30:07Jason Tatum did and there were

00:30:08many. I agree I mean remember

00:30:12you know Dallas came out just

00:30:13swinging and being very

00:30:15impactful early on put him in

00:30:16a twenty two nine hole and

00:30:17Jason was the only one that was

00:30:19really keeping the Celtics you

00:30:20know able to withstand that

00:30:22Mavericks barrage of buckets

00:30:24early on so he I thought again

00:30:27had a really solid game minus

00:30:30that that that stretch in a

00:30:32fourth where no one can make

00:30:33shots or frankly impact the

00:30:36game positively but- Tatum he

00:30:38did what he needed to do I mean

00:30:40this is what your best players

00:30:42do when you're not having a

00:30:43great game you need to find a

00:30:45way to have a good enough one

00:30:46to help your team win and I

00:30:47thought he did that. Both ends

00:30:49of the floor- and you know what

00:30:53this is what this is what your

00:30:54best players supposed to do-

00:30:56when he's not having the

00:30:57greatest of games. Do other

00:30:59things and I thought he did a

00:31:00lot of little things tonight

00:31:01that really really. Really help

00:31:04this team win. Yeah I don't

00:31:06want to dump on anybody's

00:31:08parade here I mean. Tatum I

00:31:10there there's there's some

00:31:11instances where you're watching

00:31:12Tatum and you just wanted the

00:31:14shot to fall so badly and on

00:31:16some cases they but there are a

00:31:17few are just like. Go down go

00:31:20down go down and it's like. I

00:31:22give Tatum a lot of credit for

00:31:23the way he was aggressive

00:31:24tonight to start the game and

00:31:26he did make it a point to take

00:31:28shots and to his credit he he

00:31:30had a good amount of but- there

00:31:32was that next level I think I

00:31:33think of anyone watching the

00:31:34game was hoping he would get to

00:31:36but to your point Sharad and to

00:31:38his credit what he's been doing

00:31:39all series and really all

00:31:40playoffs is finding other ways

00:31:41to affect the game in a

00:31:42positive way and- you can't

00:31:44really. Argue that against that

00:31:46I mean. All the stats will back

00:31:48that up and- and you know

00:31:50whether it's potential assists

00:31:51or the rebounds or- you know if

00:31:53you just watch the game I guess

00:31:55you'll you'll be able to see

00:31:56how. Defensively you know him

00:31:58being in a basically take on

00:31:59any assignment- you know they

00:32:01were commenting on the broadcast

00:32:02it points tonight to. The

00:32:04inbounds there that they that

00:32:05Tatum was able to defend when

00:32:06they I think they tried to get.

00:32:08I figure who was but right off

00:32:09an inbounds maybe like a play at

00:32:11the rim and it was able to. To

00:32:13kind of stop that one so. You

00:32:15know unlike a lot of NBA players

00:32:16who when they when they go cold

00:32:19and when they're not effective.

00:32:20Just scoring the ball. They kind

00:32:23of just aren't really a part of

00:32:24the game and typically you lose

00:32:26that game Tatum is as found ways

00:32:28to. Contribute in a number of

00:32:30ways that allows him to you

00:32:32know be still. Are we the most

00:32:34input important player on the

00:32:36court at all times regardless of

00:32:37what he's doing. I'm not

00:32:39scoring wise. You still want to

00:32:42drop fifty on somebody's head

00:32:43let's not let's not get it

00:32:44twisted. You still want to see

00:32:46that because then is there's no

00:32:47arguing. It's right. I'd be

00:32:49wish you'd see it right Jimmy

00:32:51like. To see it when you say you

00:32:52wish the shots would go down you

00:32:53wish the shots would go down

00:32:54because that's going to be like

00:32:55reminiscent of like. As sure

00:32:57ought to call the top five Tatum

00:32:59where it's like. Okay it's an

00:33:01assassin mode and everything's

00:33:02gonna fall. And like we haven't

00:33:04seen that it does still feel

00:33:06like he's working for it he's

00:33:07working really hard for it and

00:33:08you know what he has to because

00:33:10they're still keen on him and

00:33:12they're still you know there's

00:33:14three there's guys waiting to

00:33:16close off every lane he gets

00:33:17past the first guy there's a guy

00:33:18waiting to come and there's help

00:33:19underneath and so they're

00:33:21really really really trying to

00:33:22close it off for him and to try

00:33:24to keep him away from the

00:33:25basket to force him to take long

00:33:27contested twos and- sometimes he

00:33:29takes the bait but also

00:33:30sometimes that's in his bag and

00:33:32during the regular season he hit

00:33:33those at a better clip than he's

00:33:34hitting them out at the playoff

00:33:35so you're kind of waiting for

00:33:36the regression to the mean on

00:33:38that where one of these days

00:33:39they're going to dare him to you

00:33:41know take those or he's just

00:33:42going to go into you know. You

00:33:44know I saw Tatum step back mode

00:33:46and they're gone they're going

00:33:46to drop and some of them dropped

00:33:48earlier and that that was kind

00:33:49of key to what the Celtics were

00:33:51doing because everybody else

00:33:53started cold Al drew and- and

00:33:56white really didn't do much in

00:33:57that first half there- and so

00:33:59you really needed Tatum to

00:34:01remember how to score and thank

00:34:02goodness he did. While we're

00:34:04saying all of that it's

00:34:05impossible to not. Once again

00:34:07it's impossible to not. To

00:34:09mention and it isn't in either

00:34:11or. But Jalen. Is better.

00:34:17Groundground was everything

00:34:19Jalen tonight was. He was

00:34:22Jalen he was so this was he's

00:34:26had better statistical games

00:34:28but this was special. He

00:34:31holiday without that's tonight

00:34:32to honestly and I I know I'm

00:34:34trying to be nice about the

00:34:36Tatum stuff because he had a

00:34:37lot of time to prepare and-

00:34:39there will be. He did but this

00:34:41was another. Browns passing

00:34:43tonight was unbelievable when

00:34:45he wasn't scoring five assists

00:34:46in the first half. And then he

00:34:48made some really tough shots

00:34:50there in the third those just

00:34:51soul snatching like contested

00:34:53twos over the top of everybody

00:34:55that you're convinced like

00:34:56that's the shot you wanted to

00:34:57take and then he hits it

00:34:58anyway and you're like- and

00:35:00like he was just great as

00:35:02passing was outstanding all

00:35:03game in his defense never let

00:35:05up never let up all game long

00:35:06and- I think he's going to be

00:35:08the MVP of the Jalen Brown game

00:35:10it feels like it's going to be

00:35:11a photo finish for. MVP between

00:35:14him Andrew because I right now

00:35:16I drew I don't get ahead of

00:35:18coming in here but Jalen I

00:35:19think is moved to the front of

00:35:21that pack what in game four if

00:35:22you goes out and has like a

00:35:23game like you had in game two

00:35:25he could easily be it could be

00:35:27a recency bias everything

00:35:28we're- because of who plays

00:35:30better in game four. For the

00:35:32Celtics they win yeah it's

00:35:33probably got. Maybe he's gonna

00:35:35be the MVP of the game. Yeah

00:35:38he's got the name he's a run

00:35:40away he's a he's he's a run

00:35:42away- favorite at this point I

00:35:45think yeah and I. I don't want

00:35:48to yeah I. I would agree and

00:35:50it's well deserved and you know

00:35:51what he brought in the eastern

00:35:53conference finals. He's been

00:35:55bringing all playoffs he's had

00:35:57a he's had a little chip on his

00:35:58shoulder which is great works

00:36:01out for the Celtics works out

00:36:02for him. He's always been a guy

00:36:04that. Like slights against him

00:36:07as motivation in it and to his

00:36:09credit good for him because he

00:36:11is the highest play pair in the

00:36:12NBA and he's still finding ways

00:36:14to feel like he's not respected

00:36:17and right good if that's what

00:36:19it takes and that's what it

00:36:20takes. And next year will be

00:36:22something else that'll keep him

00:36:23going right so- you got it you

00:36:26got to just tip your cap to this

00:36:27guy. He's shown up when it

00:36:29matters most again it when you

00:36:31looked at that. It when I when

00:36:33you look at it obviously you

00:36:34watch the game and you saw it

00:36:35but when you look at the box

00:36:36where you go. And Jalen Brown

00:36:38really was a no show on that

00:36:39first half Derek white one for

00:36:41seven I think it was about.

00:36:42Brown specifically stood up

00:36:43because it wasn't really much

00:36:44that. You could remember him

00:36:46doing in that first half and

00:36:48something have to change in the

00:36:49second half you needed. Two

00:36:51things to happen you needed.

00:36:53Kyrie and Luka to slow down just

00:36:55a bit. And you needed somebody

00:36:57else in the Celtics to step up

00:36:59and Brown was obviously the most

00:37:01likely player because of. You

00:37:03know a typical Brown performance

00:37:04does not look like how it

00:37:05looked in the first half so. It

00:37:07made sense that something would

00:37:08change in the second half. And

00:37:09white was the other guy those

00:37:10two guys. Needed to turn things

00:37:12around in second half. And they

00:37:13did not be Brown. With the

00:37:15emphatic dunk which it seems

00:37:16like we see now. Once every

00:37:18couple games he catches. He

00:37:20catches somebody or people of I

00:37:21think starting to learn now. To

00:37:23you know. Let the man let the

00:37:25man do his thing when we when he

00:37:27when he gets a little space.

00:37:29Down the lane around the free

00:37:30throw. Free throw line. Just

00:37:32let him let him go ahead and

00:37:34get those two points it's not

00:37:35worth trying to get in the way

00:37:35of that. But you know what

00:37:36Jimmy. Maybe the most important

00:37:39thing Jalen did all game long.

00:37:40Was drawn a six following Luka.

00:37:43When you look at the way that

00:37:44this game was playing out that

00:37:45it was going to be like a one

00:37:47possession. One shot

00:37:48competition when the game type

00:37:50of situation. That is in Luka's

00:37:52will. Do you think that

00:37:54Missoula timeout was all to tell

00:37:56them to go get that six foul. I

00:37:59don't know I don't know I mean

00:38:01I mean I mean I mean I think

00:38:02Jalen was a genius on his part.

00:38:05Yes he did that. But to me. The

00:38:09way that they attack. On that

00:38:12inbounds I mean like they got

00:38:13the ball up to Jalen really

00:38:15really quick. When that

00:38:16possession and Jalen with no

00:38:18hesitation. Went right at Luke

00:38:20all the right after the fifth

00:38:21ball and then they call the

00:38:22switch then they went right at

00:38:23him. There. I mean. Yeah I think

00:38:26was pretty clear that they were

00:38:27that was what they're going for

00:38:29they were trying to get him.

00:38:30I mean it's no secret Luke is

00:38:31not exactly you know Mr.

00:38:33defense. He's not great at

00:38:36moving his feet particularly in

00:38:37transition. And they caught him.

00:38:39They caught him out of position

00:38:41and made it made him pay. So.

00:38:44Heck of a play for Jalen just to

00:38:45be to just to recognize that

00:38:47moment attack. Get that six

00:38:48foul and help the state secure

00:38:50this victory. Yeah.

00:38:54Yeah. You want to do it now.

00:38:56I'm going to give it to you.

00:38:58Why are you leaving or something.

00:38:59No I'm gonna let you do your

00:39:00thing. Oh wow what a guy.

00:39:02Jimmy wants to tell you guys

00:39:04something. Oh am I going to put

00:39:05this up. Yeah. No put up your

00:39:07put up your banner first. Yeah

00:39:08got my banner right here. Okay.

00:39:10Now you know what's selling at

00:39:11this merch store right guys.

00:39:13Okay first off use the code one

00:39:15more for 20 percent off one

00:39:16more. Because they need one more

00:39:18win which means they've gotten

00:39:19how many Jimmy. Fifteen.

00:39:21Fifteen. Yeah. Well done Jimmy.

00:39:24There you go. This has been

00:39:25super helpful. We are not

00:39:27kidding when we say hard hats

00:39:29are flying off the shelves

00:39:30they're flying off the shelves

00:39:31and can't make them as fast.

00:39:32We can't make them. Jimmy send

00:39:34me a video of them. They're

00:39:35legit flying off the shelves.

00:39:37Where's that video. Send that

00:39:38again. We're going to put that

00:39:39on the screen to text it to you.

00:39:41Well yeah. We have a team of

00:39:43Jane our marketing unbelievable

00:39:45company. But while here while

00:39:49here you know obviously there's

00:39:52a game here and there were some

00:39:53Celtics fans there was a watch

00:39:54party at the guard. What boss.

00:39:56I got to say Boston. Good job

00:39:58tonight. First up for I I'm not

00:40:00a watch party guy but the

00:40:01garden was basically filled for

00:40:02a watch party. About 50,000

00:40:05people showed up to watch

00:40:06basically a live podcast

00:40:07featuring Tom Brady at Gillette

00:40:11and this game tonight which is

00:40:14crazy. How many people showed

00:40:16out for sports. But at the

00:40:20garden Jimmy look at what this

00:40:23is unbelievable. This is what I

00:40:24would love. So what happened

00:40:26here. This is surreal. I don't

00:40:28know what you guys. Wow. But I

00:40:30appreciate you. I appreciate you

00:40:32both so much. This is at the

00:40:34garden watch party and they're

00:40:36just wearing those frickin

00:40:37things. They're just wearing

00:40:39them. They look great. Look at

00:40:41that. They look awesome. They

00:40:42look comfortable. And by the

00:40:43way they are very comfortable.

00:40:45I don't know if I mean I've

00:40:46definitely shown this before

00:40:47but when we go big screen again

00:40:49I'll show it again. But that's

00:40:51like these guys are front row

00:40:52at the watch party which sounds

00:40:54like a good idea. But I wonder

00:40:55how that worked with the neck

00:40:57trying to look up on that

00:40:58jumbo straw. I'm not sure. But

00:41:00the place was packed tonight.

00:41:01Good vibes only. Packed with

00:41:03hard hats is what it was.

00:41:04Packed with hard hats. Somebody

00:41:06tweeting me and said go on the

00:41:07Celtics Instagram page. There's

00:41:08hard hats all over the place. I

00:41:09thought they were joking. Sure

00:41:11enough there it is. But it's

00:41:14been it's been a lot of fun.

00:41:15And the hard hats started as you

00:41:19know obviously it started a

00:41:20couple of years ago on this

00:41:22show. Just tossed it on. The

00:41:24whole point is that the whole

00:41:28thing is just go to work. Show

00:41:30up. Put on the hard hats. Lace

00:41:31up the steel toe boots. Bring

00:41:33your lunch pails and just do

00:41:34your job. Right. As a once

00:41:37great head coach Bill Belichick

00:41:38once said. Do your job. Just

00:41:39show up. Put the work in. Put

00:41:42on the hard hat and just get it

00:41:43done. And when the Celtics do

00:41:45that good things happen. And

00:41:46tonight I already mentioned

00:41:48I'm giving out the hard hat to

00:41:49Tillman. I'm giving out the

00:41:50hard hat to Hauser. Guys who

00:41:51just showed up were ready to

00:41:53work when they were called

00:41:54upon. So that's the whole

00:41:55thinking behind the hard hat.

00:41:57I would love for these to take

00:41:58off. I mean who knows what's

00:41:59going to happen. They are they

00:42:00are selling like I'm not just

00:42:02saying that. They've been

00:42:03selling like crazy. I don't

00:42:05think anyone else is doing it.

00:42:07So it's kind of a unique thing.

00:42:08It's it's fun. And these are

00:42:11John let's go big for a second

00:42:12if you don't mind. What does

00:42:14that mean? Just go go full

00:42:16screen back. Back to you? No

00:42:17just all of us. Us. Us people.

00:42:21Yeah. We people. I want people

00:42:22to know this is a real hard hat.

00:42:24It's not like a joke. OK.

00:42:26They're stanzas. They're nice.

00:42:27No. Come on Evan Marinovsky

00:42:29clean it up. It does. It

00:42:32absolutely does. But these are

00:42:34legit. Got some padding on the

00:42:35front here. Padding on the back.

00:42:37You could go backwards with it

00:42:38if you want. You can go

00:42:39front to front with it. You got

00:42:40the shamrock here. You got the

00:42:42seal in his garden report logo

00:42:44and you got the saying hard

00:42:45hats. Lunch pills. Steel toe

00:42:47boots. I know Sherrod's got one

00:42:48coming. Shout out to Sherrod.

00:42:50You know that. I saw that.

00:42:52Hell yeah. It's gonna look nice.

00:42:55So again go ahead. And by the

00:42:57way guys it's not just hard hats.

00:42:58We've got a bunch of t shirts

00:42:59there. We have bucket hats. If

00:43:01the hard hat isn't your thing

00:43:02grab a phenomenal bucket hat

00:43:03that Bobby Manning rocks. Grab

00:43:05a couple of t shirts. We got

00:43:06phenomenal t's. Garden report

00:43:08logo t's. We got backpacks. We

00:43:11got mugs. If you like to wake up

00:43:13with a little garden report show

00:43:15in the morning grab a garden

00:43:16report mug to go with that. You

00:43:18got a number of options there

00:43:19and don't forget the code. One

00:43:21more for 20% off. And we are now

00:43:23doing international shipping.

00:43:26So previously we weren't doing

00:43:27international shipping but we've

00:43:28got so many messages from down

00:43:31under. People from all over the

00:43:32world want a hard hat. No lie.

00:43:33I've got people from Australia,

00:43:35England, Canada, all over the

00:43:37world which is humbling and we

00:43:39appreciate it. So I do not set

00:43:42the international shipping

00:43:43prices. I have no idea what they

00:43:44are. We're not making money at

00:43:46all off shipping. It's just

00:43:48that's what it costs to send

00:43:50like something this size. I

00:43:52think it's first class priority

00:43:53shipping. So that's my spiel.

00:43:56There it is. The hard hats are

00:43:58out. Hopefully we didn't lose

00:43:59all the viewers during that.

00:44:00No, we're good. We tweeted the

00:44:01link to the link is tweeted on

00:44:02CLNS Instagram. Our sad

00:44:06producer here Jackson asking if

00:44:08you can have course Jackson you

00:44:09can have a hard hat. Of course

00:44:11you can. You can have a hard

00:44:12hat. You come to work. We'll

00:44:15call it your we'll call it your

00:44:16Christmas bonus. Yeah. That's

00:44:19awesome. Who came up with it?

00:44:20He wants to know. I came up with

00:44:22it. So Jimmy, how wrong with me

00:44:24with it? With our how wrong were

00:44:25we with our Celtics in five

00:44:26prediction? Embarrassingly wrong.

00:44:29Embarrassingly wrong. We didn't

00:44:32give him enough credit. We

00:44:33didn't give him enough credit,

00:44:34John. It was funny. It was

00:44:35like, everyone's wondering who

00:44:36Jackson is, is if I've somehow

00:44:38replaced or fired on it. Um, it

00:44:39is safe. Um, it is fine. Um,

00:44:41it's doing lots of different

00:44:42things. Jackson Tolliver is one

00:44:45of our new rising stars at

00:44:46CLNS media. Uh, yeah, much like

00:44:49I'm at home. So it's not just

00:44:52me home. Jackson's I think he's

00:44:54on much like he doesn't sleep

00:44:55ever and he just gets the job

00:44:59done, gets the job done. Um, so

00:45:01yes, Jackson gets a hard hat

00:45:03for his efforts. No doubt about

00:45:05it. Yep. And um, stay tuned

00:45:08guys. Cause if the Celtics do

00:45:09pull this off, there might be

00:45:11some surprise merchandise

00:45:12showing up in the merch store.

00:45:14We're, we're ready. Let's put

00:45:15it this way. We're ready for

00:45:16it. We're ready. We're ready.

00:45:18Anyway, back to the game guys.

00:45:20And again, before the game I

00:45:22talked about a lot, I think,

00:45:24you know, whether it was

00:45:27Twitter, the shows that we did

00:45:28just kind of, you know, back

00:45:30and forth, even the post game,

00:45:31I wasn't sure what Dallas could

00:45:33do differently. Um, like I just

00:45:37think they had to just hope

00:45:38that the stuff that they

00:45:39normally do, they just did

00:45:41better. Um, and it happened for

00:45:43a little bit, right. You know,

00:45:44because you had Kyrie starting

00:45:46to hit his shots and this and

00:45:47that, and, but it's not enough.

00:45:50I, and I, I think that's kind

00:45:52of always been the case. It's

00:45:53never been enough. It's like

00:45:55when you talk about an

00:45:55adjustment series, like when

00:45:57you're starting to talk about

00:45:58when you say ridiculous things,

00:45:59like it's hard, they got to

00:46:02start playing hard away and XM,

00:46:04you know, if that's where you

00:46:06are, it's over. Like XM hit

00:46:09that panic button, right? Yeah.

00:46:11Like, but I'm saying if, if

00:46:12that, if the key to your, like

00:46:13if you were the Celtics right

00:46:14now and you're like, I think we

00:46:15need to start giving Jaden

00:46:16Springer minutes, like it's

00:46:18over, it's over, you're cooked.

00:46:19There's nothing you can do.

00:46:21Right. So like, that's kind of

00:46:22where they are right now is

00:46:24they have to just do what they

00:46:25do, but just do it better and

00:46:28hope that Celtics do what they

00:46:29do worse. I think that's the

00:46:31only way that it works at this

00:46:33point. Well, they, I mean, they

00:46:35went like 11 deep in the first

00:46:37half. We played 11 guys. They

00:46:40tried everybody. I mean,

00:46:42Ben Sherrod, we, we, we were,

00:46:43we, we were right next to each

00:46:45other was, uh, was who was

00:46:46Hardy? Yeah. Hardy, which,

00:46:50which again, Hardy had like a

00:46:51really solid end of game one

00:46:54when nobody was really playing

00:46:55defense. So you think that

00:46:56maybe they try to throw them in

00:46:57their game too, which they

00:46:58didn't really do, but they

00:47:01played with a level of

00:47:03desperation that wasn't like

00:47:05sense of urgency desperation.

00:47:06It was, we don't have any

00:47:08solution. So we're just going

00:47:09to just try to throw something

00:47:10out there and hope that

00:47:11something sticks. Uh, they were

00:47:13in nothing did, uh, they had a

00:47:16great start and the first

00:47:18quarter, you kind of knew that

00:47:18this was going to be one of

00:47:19those nights for Dallas because

00:47:21they thoroughly outplayed the

00:47:22Celtics for most of the first

00:47:23quarter and all they had to

00:47:24show for it was a one point

00:47:25lead and Boston was a little

00:47:27bit better in the second

00:47:28quarter. And again, all Dallas

00:47:30had was a one point lead. So

00:47:31you figure if the Celtics got

00:47:32into any semblance of a rhythm

00:47:34and inconsistency for four or

00:47:36five, six minutes stretch,

00:47:37they're probably going to win

00:47:38the game. And that's exactly

00:47:39what they did. Held on.

00:47:41Obviously there, when it got a

00:47:42little bit dicey in the fourth,

00:47:43but Dallas, they just, they're

00:47:46just not built to win this

00:47:48series, uh, at all. So

00:47:54John, we can sit here all night

00:47:55and talk about what can Dallas

00:47:56do? They can't do nothing. And

00:47:59that's kind of why we felt the

00:48:02way we felt coming in. They're

00:48:03not going to win four straight

00:48:04if Porzingis never played and

00:48:07the Celtics, you know, and

00:48:09you know, had a couple of those

00:48:11lay down games. Again, the most

00:48:12impressive thing about the

00:48:13Celtics for me through all

00:48:15three of these games is, um,

00:48:18again, with the exception, we

00:48:20always have to throw it out of

00:48:22that little prevent offense

00:48:23they did here in the fourth

00:48:24zero left, zero let up, you

00:48:27know, and that's just bad

00:48:28execution to me. It's not lack

00:48:29of effort when they, when they

00:48:31slow the ball down, they're

00:48:32just not doing what they're

00:48:33supposed to be doing there.

00:48:35The, they, they have not stopped

00:48:39at any point in time. They are

00:48:42playing their fuck their asses

00:48:45off the entire series. And so

00:48:48you didn't, there wasn't one of

00:48:50those games where like, maybe

00:48:51we can catch the Celtics not

00:48:52serious or getting bored. You

00:48:54know, the two nothing lead

00:48:55game. Yeah, absolutely. One,

00:48:57you think you might get bored

00:48:58with. I actually do wonder

00:48:59whether Porzingis being out up

00:49:01the urgency of this one. If you

00:49:02come in with KP fully loaded

00:49:04and you think like, we got this

00:49:05in the bag, these guys can't

00:49:06run with us. I don't know if

00:49:08that, you know, let's let up to

00:49:10the point, but I do think that

00:49:11that helps you refocus a little,

00:49:12which is we can not screw

00:49:14around. Like we've absolutely,

00:49:16absolutely got to bring it. And

00:49:18they, they keep doing it. I, I

00:49:20can't stop watching drew

00:49:21holiday. He, you talk about the

00:49:24dip. You want to compare

00:49:25players instead of comparing

00:49:27Brown and Tatum and who's

00:49:28better compare holiday and

00:49:30Luca watch as the game goes on

00:49:32and holidays still in white.

00:49:34They're just still buzzing

00:49:36around offense and defense,

00:49:37never stopped moving. These

00:49:40guys cannot be worn down. And

00:49:42Lucas just, you know, whether

00:49:44it's just being on a shape or

00:49:46the pain, pain injections are

00:49:48wearing off or whatever it is

00:49:49like it's, you just see it

00:49:52powered down. Those guys just

00:49:55go. Yeah. That's defensive

00:49:56backcourt in the NBA as voted

00:49:58on. We knew it, we saw it and

00:50:00then it was stamped, approved,

00:50:02sealed and delivered. And that

00:50:04hasn't changed. You know, the

00:50:06offense comes and goes, but the

00:50:07defense is mostly effort. And

00:50:11that's one thing you can say

00:50:12about this team. They don't

00:50:14give up. They don't, they don't

00:50:16you know, certainly the

00:50:18backcourt, if you're talking

00:50:19about drew and white here, as

00:50:20you were talking about John, I

00:50:21can't think of one time this

00:50:23year where I said, these guys

00:50:24are half assing it out there or

00:50:26they're, they're not, they

00:50:27don't want to play today. They

00:50:28don't, they didn't show up. You

00:50:28know what I mean? Like you

00:50:29never felt that way about them.

00:50:31They're those guys are the

00:50:32reason you had fewer of those

00:50:33games of all the times this

00:50:35year, we said they lose that

00:50:36game last year. There's a

00:50:37million of those this year is

00:50:38about 20 of them, including

00:50:40probably four or five in the

00:50:41playoffs alone, where it's

00:50:42like they lose that game last

00:50:43year. It's because of those

00:50:45guys, I think. And it's, you

00:50:47know, that they'll never let

00:50:49there weren't, there were too

00:50:51many. There basically there's

00:50:53too many critical players on

00:50:55the floor who are doing

00:50:56critical things who would not

00:50:57allow that to happen. And

00:51:00that's what changed the

00:51:01equation for it. There was

00:51:02just, there was too many

00:51:02grownups. There's too many

00:51:03serious people and it can

00:51:04never get, it never got out

00:51:06of hand because those guys

00:51:07are always doing the right

00:51:08thing. So even if some people

00:51:09would lapse into their worst

00:51:11tendencies or just have a bad

00:51:12stretch, you just had these

00:51:14rocks there who even when

00:51:16they didn't have results were

00:51:17almost always trying to do the

00:51:19right thing. Uh, and I that's,

00:51:21I just, I, you know, that's

00:51:24why I defended drew even

00:51:25through like some spells where

00:51:27it's like people are like, I

00:51:29thought this guy was better,

00:51:30you know, like, I don't know.

00:51:32I thought he was exactly what

00:51:33you were hoping he would be

00:51:34and possibly even more. I

00:51:37can't say enough. I mean,

00:51:39drew goes into disruptive mode

00:51:42and completely changed the

00:51:43game. Like that three ball

00:51:44that he hit that put them up

00:51:45to, and then he gets a steal

00:51:47that says uptate him for

00:51:48three ball. They're up five.

00:51:49At that point, that was their

00:51:50biggest lead. And from there

00:51:51things just snowballed for

00:51:52them. And as much as we can

00:51:54talk about what Jalen did and

00:51:55what Jason did and, you know,

00:51:57Sam gave him a nice lift off

00:51:58the bench. That sequence right

00:52:00there that drew holiday put

00:52:02together back to back set all

00:52:04that other stuff in motion.

00:52:06And he's been doing that

00:52:07throughout the post season. Uh,

00:52:09and it, it almost feels as

00:52:10though, you know, he was just

00:52:12kind of basically storing up,

00:52:14you know, all that drew

00:52:15capital, all that drew currency

00:52:17for this moment, because this

00:52:19is why, you know, if you're

00:52:21with gross spec, you go

00:52:22millions and millions and

00:52:23millions over that second

00:52:24apron and, and spend way more

00:52:26money than a lot of NBA owners

00:52:27are willing to, because you

00:52:29wouldn't got the pieces that

00:52:30you absolutely needed to get

00:52:32over the hump. And they're

00:52:33right now they're 40 minutes

00:52:35away from winning a better

00:52:3618. And that's why we're

00:52:37paying $10 for media meals in

00:52:39the finals, you know, because

00:52:40we got to, we got to pick up

00:52:41some of that drew tax and

00:52:42that's fine. And Dallas, did

00:52:43you have to pay? No, they

00:52:45gave us a card to buy

00:52:46concessions, uh, instead of

00:52:48having a media meal, which is

00:52:50pretty gross. It's actually

00:52:52funny. Yeah. It was really

00:52:53funny. It was pretty

00:52:54concessions. I got a question

00:52:55for both. Well, actually

00:52:58Carlos has the question. I'm

00:52:59going to alter it a little

00:53:00bit. Is this the most

00:53:02dominant Celtics team ever?

00:53:03He asked, we need like

00:53:05Jelsa or, or like Bob Ryan

00:53:06and probably into that one.

00:53:07But what about comparing it

00:53:08to 0 7 0 8? You know,

00:53:10Shroud and John, you guys

00:53:11are both obviously big, big

00:53:13into those teams. It's

00:53:15close. Yeah. If they win a

00:53:17championship, it becomes

00:53:19legitimate. It becomes

00:53:20legitimate argument. When

00:53:21you look at this team, I

00:53:22think from top to bottom,

00:53:23I think you might want to

00:53:24give the edge to this.

00:53:25Yeah. I mean, think about

00:53:27this. I mean, you're of

00:53:29your top six, top seven

00:53:31players. You're probably

00:53:32looking at four or five

00:53:35in hall of fame

00:53:36conversation guys right

00:53:38now. Um, true holiday.

00:53:40We'll have a couple of

00:53:41titles out. Horford will

00:53:42have a championship.

00:53:43Tatum and Brown are still

00:53:44in their mid twenties. So,

00:53:46you know, they're going to

00:53:46keep getting better. That's

00:53:47four guys right there. Um,

00:53:50you know, and so, you know,

00:53:51Derek, Derek, why will be

00:53:53someday? He could be, I

00:53:55mean, he could be like,

00:53:56you know, the Michael

00:53:56Cooper guy, the guy that,

00:53:57you know, maybe didn't

00:53:58have all the numbers of

00:53:59the superstars, but you

00:54:00know, 10, 15 years after

00:54:01he retired, he may very

00:54:03well be in that

00:54:03conversation as well. So

00:54:05you get to go, you get to

00:54:06go, you get to go that

00:54:07old 18. When you get, when

00:54:08you look past Paul Ray KG

00:54:12and probably Rondo, I'm

00:54:14not sure if you got much

00:54:15else. Rondo wasn't Rondo

00:54:16yet. And Perk was a

00:54:17perfect role player. Rondo

00:54:19wasn't fully Rondo. Rondo

00:54:20was the guy. Rondo wasn't

00:54:22the guy that they fully

00:54:23trusted. He wasn't put off

00:54:25Rondo then. Yeah. Different

00:54:27guy. So you see the roster

00:54:28and you're like, and Rondo,

00:54:29but Rondo wasn't close to

00:54:32what Rondo became, um, in

00:54:34subsequent years. Um, there

00:54:36I would say this team

00:54:38through the first five or

00:54:39six probably has more

00:54:40talent. Um, that being

00:54:42said, you know, the self

00:54:45KG did everything right.

00:54:47You know, KG was, if your

00:54:49best player was drew, it

00:54:50was drew holiday into

00:54:51Tatum skillset, you know,

00:54:52like he did everything

00:54:54right. Um, and change the

00:54:57dynamic of that team. So,

00:54:59but it's really close. Like

00:55:01this team and they took

00:55:03everything serious. Everyone

00:55:04be like, well, the Atlanta

00:55:05was a seven game series. It

00:55:07was, but it was a really

00:55:08lopsided seven game series.

00:55:09Like they won the four

00:55:10games by like an average of

00:55:1223 points or something like

00:55:13that. Uh, and yeah, maybe

00:55:15they played with their

00:55:16stupidly lost games on the

00:55:17road. They shouldn't have,

00:55:19but they were just, you

00:55:21knew that team. I mean,

00:55:23that team was destined to

00:55:24win the championship with

00:55:24almost no doubt the whole

00:55:26way through there. There

00:55:27were, there were, there

00:55:28weren't really many moments

00:55:29in the season where you're

00:55:30like, I don't know if they

00:55:31have it. They obviously had

00:55:33it relative to the league.

00:55:35They have their doubt only

00:55:37because the, the core has

00:55:39failed before and not the,

00:55:40you know, you've seen

00:55:41Tatum and Brown come up

00:55:42short before. And that was

00:55:45stuck in people's minds

00:55:46where that was the first

00:55:47time you'd ever seen these

00:55:48guys together. And it was

00:55:49like, this is the best

00:55:50thing I've ever seen. And

00:55:51they really changed the

00:55:52NBA, that team, you know,

00:55:53like, you know, just with

00:55:54the whole, like get with,

00:55:56you know, the big three

00:55:56sort of situation and load

00:55:58up on, you know, front load

00:55:59talent and have all of

00:56:00these stars there. But it's,

00:56:02it's really close. It's

00:56:03really close, you know, and

00:56:04then 86 is 86, 86 was the

00:56:06most dominant thing I've

00:56:07ever seen in my life. They,

00:56:08not only would they win,

00:56:09they toyed with people. It

00:56:11was like prime Pedro

00:56:12Martinez. Like it was like

00:56:14what I just, you can't

00:56:16wrap around children. John's

00:56:18going to tell us about 1986.

00:56:20I mean, 86 was ridiculous.

00:56:22Dude, they went 40 and one

00:56:23at home 41. I mean, they

00:56:27were, they absolutely toyed

00:56:30with people. It was a joke.

00:56:32That team was so good. So

00:56:33yes. I mean, of all time,

00:56:35no, 86 is all time, but

00:56:37this is close to the 2018.

00:56:38Yeah. I thought it was good

00:56:39to come. Good to compare a

00:56:40little bit more recent than

00:56:42it is to go, you know, go

00:56:43back to the, I mean, those

00:56:44are the three standards of

00:56:45anybody, you know, around

00:56:47you have those, the last

00:56:48wave of anything that

00:56:49anyone, you know, whatever,

00:56:50if you're, you know, 40s or

00:56:52beyond the 80s, that 86 team

00:56:54was always, that's in the

00:56:55conversation with the Jordan

00:56:57bulls and the, uh, and the

00:56:5872 win warrior, you know,

00:56:59the, those warriors teams

00:57:01as greatest of all time. So

00:57:02it's impossible to not

00:57:03include that in a

00:57:04conversation. Shout out

00:57:05Kenyon. Yeah. Getting

00:57:07himself an 86 jacket. There

00:57:08you go. Yeah. So it's hard

00:57:10not to, but obviously the

00:57:11more recent. Yeah. I think

00:57:13it's close. I think it's

00:57:14close. Thank you, Jason.

00:57:15Very much. Um, we love, uh,

00:57:18having you guys. We really

00:57:19do. Uh, here in the chat,

00:57:21uh, we have Luca and kid.

00:57:23This is slugged Luca and

00:57:24kid crying. I can't wait to

00:57:26see this. Oh, it's about

00:57:28this. Well, it's about the

00:57:30phone. You could cries

00:57:31nonstop. They called a

00:57:33foul. I was stuck. I had to

00:57:37challenge it. So every

00:57:42challenge, cause it was a

00:57:43close call. The referee

00:57:46called it a foul. Tim

00:57:50McMahon, ESPN. Uh, Luca,

00:57:52what did you think of the

00:57:53whistles that went against

00:57:54you in the fourth quarter?

00:57:57Data. I mean, I don't know.

00:58:01Uh, we couldn't play

00:58:03physical. So, uh, no, I

00:58:07don't want to say nothing,

00:58:09but you know, six fall in

00:58:12the NBA finals where I

00:58:14basically, I'm like this.

00:58:17Come on, man. Better than

00:58:19that. Boohoo. The refs

00:58:23didn't let Luca play

00:58:24physical. I'll say this.

00:58:26It was marginal. Um, and

00:58:28it's a tough call to make

00:58:29there. But the problem is

00:58:30when the guys hit the deck

00:58:32and then the ball goes

00:58:33loose, if you call nothing,

00:58:34you're just giving Dallas

00:58:35the ball. So it's a really

00:58:36tough thing to not whistle

00:58:37it. If you think that

00:58:38there's contact there, they

00:58:40looked at it, they thought

00:58:41there was, what are you

00:58:42going to do? This isn't an

00:58:43out of bounds thing where

00:58:44you don't have an angle to

00:58:46see if it really went out

00:58:47of bounds or not. This is

00:58:48simply, um, when you slow

00:58:50things down, you really

00:58:52see if there's enough

00:58:53contact there to justify

00:58:55it or not. It's not, they

00:58:58looked at it. They thought

00:58:59there was, I thought it

00:59:00was close. I thought Brown

00:59:01was going to get called

00:59:02with the chicken wing

00:59:03there. I thought that

00:59:04hurt his cause because he

00:59:05stuck that out a little

00:59:05bit. The problem for Luca

00:59:08is he can't move. He can't

00:59:11move. And Jalen is super

00:59:13athletic. I mean, it, it

00:59:15was the absolute perfect

00:59:16storm for him to be called

00:59:17for a foul. You can't move.

00:59:19The guy that's attacking

00:59:21you can move is faster than

00:59:23you is quicker than you.

00:59:24You're going to have a

00:59:25hard time standing in

00:59:26front of it. Uh, and, and

00:59:27Luca, again, pardon. I

00:59:30thought they let him play

00:59:31way more physical than I

00:59:33thought I expected to see.

00:59:35Uh, and you look at this

00:59:36game, there were 17 fouls

00:59:38called against, uh, Dallas

00:59:39and 19 against the

00:59:40Southeast. Uh, and I didn't

00:59:42think anyone was getting a

00:59:44major generous whistle one

00:59:46way or the other. I thought

00:59:47they were missing calls

00:59:48both ways. I thought they

00:59:49were, you know, making a

00:59:50few calls. He probably

00:59:51didn't have to make both

00:59:52ways. It was a perfect, it

00:59:54was a, to me, it was an

00:59:55inconsistently consistent

00:59:57officiated game. Uh, I

00:59:58didn't think either team

00:59:59had a significant

01:00:00advantage. And if we're

01:00:01being honest again, Luca

01:00:03can't defend. This is not

01:00:05what you do.

01:00:06Defend Jackson. Give me

01:00:07that clip, Bobby.

01:00:10He's your worst defender.

01:00:15He's your worst defender.

01:00:18Oh, we'll get him to say

01:00:19that. We'll get him to say

01:00:20that tonight for sure.

01:00:22Bobby, Bobby and Joe sway

01:00:23coming on later. What's up

01:00:24with them? They around

01:00:28Marinowski. He's in the

01:00:29building. I had to join. I

01:00:32had to join just too good,

01:00:34a too good of an

01:00:34opportunity to pass up.

01:00:35You're the same guy who

01:00:36just asked us to explain

01:00:37it in hockey terms. I am.

01:00:39Yeah, I am. You're going

01:00:41to hear some terrible

01:00:42analysis for me. People

01:00:43might even know who I am

01:00:44on this. So, you know, he

01:00:46was just walking by John.

01:00:47You're muted. I think.

01:00:49What a small story. One day

01:00:52we were doing the garden

01:00:53report and a guy named

01:00:54Sherrod Blakely was in our

01:00:55chat and I was like,

01:00:56Sherrod, is that actually

01:00:57you? And he's like, yeah,

01:00:58I was like, join. And I

01:00:59sent him a link and he

01:01:00joined and then he never

01:01:01left. He's been on ever

01:01:03since. I don't know about

01:01:05me. I don't, I don't know.

01:01:06I don't think I haven't

01:01:06joined the chat. I haven't

01:01:08joined the chat. I said,

01:01:09hey, jump on the show.

01:01:10Evan is a host of the

01:01:12Bruins beat podcast and

01:01:13someone who does Bruins

01:01:14coverage for CLNS, the

01:01:15Bruins postgame show,

01:01:16which did great, by the

01:01:18way. Yeah. Why don't you

01:01:20give us your little

01:01:21hockey, hockey minded

01:01:23take on the Celtics here?

01:01:24Yeah. Your little cute

01:01:26hockey take. Your little

01:01:27cute hockey take. Little

01:01:29cute hands in. Well, my

01:01:30favorite thing was I was

01:01:31at a hockey game actually

01:01:33out in Foxborough. Do

01:01:34they shake hands at the

01:01:35end? They should shake

01:01:37hands in the NBA. They

01:01:38should. When LeBron runs

01:01:40off the court, you know,

01:01:41like they do enough of

01:01:42that. They do enough of

01:01:43that stuff. Like every

01:01:45single game. They don't

01:01:46wait till the end of the

01:01:46playoffs. Uh, but I was

01:01:49listening to Cedric and

01:01:50Matt, uh, Cedric and Max,

01:01:51uh, Max and Grandy, uh, on

01:01:54the way home and they are

01:01:56electric. I had never

01:01:57really listened to that.

01:01:58I'd never been in the car

01:01:59for a Celtics game. They

01:02:00were outstanding, but I

01:02:01walked in the door to a

01:02:02house full of people, uh,

01:02:03watching the Celtics. I

01:02:05was like, it's over. It's

01:02:06done. This game is over.

01:02:07It was the end of the third

01:02:08quarter. And then the fourth

01:02:09quarter happened and they

01:02:10were like, you need to leave

01:02:11your own home. Um, so that

01:02:12was that, uh, you were the

01:02:16guy who made that happen.

01:02:17Okay. I was, I was the

01:02:18reason they went on like a

01:02:1920 to two run or whatever

01:02:20it was. Um, they're nasty.

01:02:22I mean, like, they're just,

01:02:23they're absurd. Like there's

01:02:25no, they're so deep.

01:02:26They're so fun to watch.

01:02:27This is like, they're

01:02:28almost playing like Bruins

01:02:30hockey and that they're so

01:02:31good defensively and

01:02:32they're deep, but they, at

01:02:33least they win. So that's

01:02:34the big, the Bruins last

01:02:36didn't fall on their face

01:02:37in the first round and

01:02:38ruined it. That was my

01:02:40worry. Uh, and that first

01:02:41round against the heat that

01:02:42there would be a little bit

01:02:43of that, but, uh, uh, no

01:02:45Luke, I'm, I'm basically a

01:02:47kid, so I don't know.

01:02:51That's a Joe Missoula

01:02:52private joke. Oh, well, I

01:02:53don't know all the jokes,

01:02:54but John used to say it

01:02:55looked like I was 11 years

01:02:56old and I don't think

01:02:57that's true. That's okay.

01:02:59I'm like 13 and you're 11.

01:03:01John's like, well, we won't

01:03:02go there, but yeah.

01:03:03Someone said hockey is

01:03:04dumb and for animals.

01:03:05That's where we disagree.

01:03:07That's who said that

01:03:09somebody mean in the chat,

01:03:10just the chat. You need to

01:03:12know that the chat, they

01:03:14can be, they can be nice,

01:03:15but they can also be very

01:03:16hurtful. They've said to

01:03:20me, they're mainly hurtful

01:03:22to me, but sometimes, but

01:03:25sometimes to strangers I'll

01:03:26take shrapnel. Yeah.

01:03:27There's no way that

01:03:28Mavs win game four, right?

01:03:30Like they're dead. This

01:03:31team is dead. Luca is as

01:03:33bad. Uh, you know, I mean,

01:03:35this is like ridiculous.

01:03:36They're not, it should be

01:03:38over. There always is that

01:03:40like, just not show up and

01:03:43somehow the Mavs figure it

01:03:44out. But I don't know this,

01:03:45this Lucas, I mean, this

01:03:46is basically our Lucas

01:03:48team, but this Mavs team,

01:03:50this had to just be gut

01:03:52punch to them. I don't, I

01:03:53mean, there's only one day

01:03:55off. I don't even think

01:03:56they have time to come back

01:03:57from it. Really? I really

01:03:58don't. And Kyrie what? Oh,

01:04:00Kyrie is going to lead them

01:04:01back of all people. Kyrie

01:04:03is going to be like the

01:04:04heart and soul guy. Give me

01:04:06a break. He's still on his

01:04:07PR tour. I think that he was

01:04:08on when he came to Boston,

01:04:10showed up tonight, but this

01:04:12has been more of a PR world

01:04:14tour for Kyrie, I think in

01:04:15the NBA finals. At the end

01:04:17of the day, he's got to

01:04:18play. You got to win. I

01:04:20don't give a damn how you

01:04:21spend, you know, the

01:04:22relationship with the

01:04:23Celtics and, and how all is

01:04:25forgiven and the fans under

01:04:26your head when a damn game

01:04:28do. This is a pretty good

01:04:29comment. No DM, no DM

01:04:36dodged. Exactly. Oh, by the

01:04:39way, I forgot to tell you

01:04:40guys, I saw Derek White at

01:04:41Fenway a couple of weeks

01:04:42ago and I was so sure I took

01:04:45a picture. I was so, I, you

01:04:46know how you think about

01:04:47the best comments after

01:04:49you're done? Uh, like in

01:04:51that moment, you're like,

01:04:52oh, I should have said

01:04:52that. I was so pissed. I

01:04:54didn't say I loved you on

01:04:55the garden report. I was

01:04:56so mad. I didn't think of

01:04:59that in the moment until

01:05:00after I was so pissed, but

01:05:01unbelievable. I loved him

01:05:02on the garden report. He

01:05:03was great. Yeah, we, it was

01:05:05great. We've had a few guys

01:05:07pop on here. You might be

01:05:08the biggest celeb we've had

01:05:09so far, but we've had, Oh,

01:05:12Oh, I bet. I bet. Yeah.

01:05:13Nobody's bigger than me.

01:05:14Just be careful because now

01:05:16guess what's going to

01:05:16happen. I'm going to pop on

01:05:17for a Bruins post game.

01:05:19You're more than welcome.

01:05:20God, my pop on for one who

01:05:22knows where it just happened

01:05:23to be on YouTube, which is

01:05:26often, I've won a post game.

01:05:28I've done them all. I've

01:05:29done them all. He's done up.

01:05:30John is a legend with

01:05:31Bruins post game. My favorite

01:05:32is a charade from fantasy or

01:05:35fantasy football group. He

01:05:36just lets us lose every week.

01:05:38And my favorite thing is one

01:05:39of his students freelanced

01:05:40for new England hockey journal

01:05:42with us and was talking about

01:05:43going to be you. And she

01:05:44goes, Oh, professor Blakely.

01:05:45And I mean, I said, you mean

01:05:47a charade Blakely. It was

01:05:53Bell. Yeah. Bell does

01:05:54terrific work for us at the

01:05:55hockey journal. She's

01:05:56awesome. So you're, you're,

01:05:58you're, you're, you're, you're

01:05:59turning them out. Yeah. So

01:06:01Evan, before, before, before

01:06:03we boot you, because we got

01:06:04to bring on Bobby and just

01:06:05wait, give us your take here.

01:06:07Is this, is this a, is this a

01:06:09Brown MVP series? Is this a,

01:06:13is this a Tatum? Does Tatum

01:06:14sneak it through? Is it a

01:06:16dark horse candidate? It's

01:06:18Brown. It's got to be Jalen

01:06:20Brown. It has to be. I don't,

01:06:21I, you know, Drew is awesome.

01:06:23But I think Jalen is the, is

01:06:25the pick here. It's Brown.

01:06:27It's Brown. And who gets more

01:06:29who's we were saying here,

01:06:32because Tatum, if he hadn't

01:06:33had a good game, it could

01:06:35have been this strange thing

01:06:36where the irony of Jason Tatum

01:06:38being dogged for not having

01:06:40won it yet as the thing

01:06:41holding back his career. And

01:06:42if he ended up having a, a

01:06:44mid final series that he, his

01:06:48stock might've actually gone

01:06:49down after winning it rather

01:06:50than up because everyone

01:06:52would have said, Oh, well,

01:06:53they won in spite of him,

01:06:54which isn't the right take,

01:06:55but still you have to explain

01:06:57it to people why he was

01:06:58playing well, but the stats

01:07:00didn't show up. And some of

01:07:01the national narratives would

01:07:02have gone in that direction.

01:07:03Now, Luka Doncic who took the

01:07:06Mavs beyond where anybody

01:07:08thought he should go might be

01:07:10that guy who's going to catch

01:07:11a lot of heat. And this is a

01:07:11guy who's scoring 30 points a

01:07:13game here in the finals, but

01:07:14he's getting, people are

01:07:16finally starting to realize

01:07:18that like, Oh, defense

01:07:19matters a little bit. So he's

01:07:21taking some, he's taking some

01:07:22hits here. They were better

01:07:24defensively. I thought the

01:07:25Mavs when he, when he followed

01:07:27out, like I, they were like,

01:07:29this might actually hurt the

01:07:30Celtics cause they can't, they

01:07:31couldn't score before. And now

01:07:34yeah, there's going to be a

01:07:35better defensive lineup out

01:07:36there without Luca. I was, I

01:07:38was actually a little worried

01:07:39there. He's the traffic cone.

01:07:42And I also think, but again, I

01:07:43mean, I don't think his, I

01:07:44don't think his teammates have

01:07:45been great around him finishing

01:07:46plays and stuff. That's my

01:07:47hockey tapes. That's my hockey.

01:07:49They suck. And there's nobody

01:07:51good around Luca except

01:07:52tonight. It was Kyrie. But

01:07:54other than that, he sucks. Oh,

01:07:56he sucks. He's the worst. He's

01:07:58the worst, but he did show up

01:07:59tonight. Other than that, I

01:08:01don't know how this Mavs team

01:08:03even made the playoffs based on

01:08:04what I'm looking at. I really

01:08:05don't. I really don't. I'm not

01:08:06just saying that before you go

01:08:08Evan, how clean is this? It's

01:08:11so sick. I saw you post the

01:08:12video about that. And I was

01:08:14like, that is awesome. It's

01:08:14sort of like, cause uh, aren't

01:08:16you the, aren't you cousins

01:08:17with the founder of fanatics

01:08:19been addicts? Like the little

01:08:21entrepreneurial. So this is

01:08:23awesome. Olivia, no teeny

01:08:25shout out fanatics, not fun

01:08:27addicts. Big difference. No,

01:08:28no big difference. We hate fun

01:08:30addicts. We love fanatics. We

01:08:32love fanatics, but shout out

01:08:34fanatics. Find them on

01:08:35Instagram. They do a lot of

01:08:36stuff. Uh, great white sharks

01:08:38type stuff like that. So yeah,

01:08:40we're saving the sharks. We're

01:08:42about saving. How did you know

01:08:43that? Cause she wants, she was

01:08:45in my journalism class at

01:08:46UMass. And she said, Oh, like

01:08:48you're with CLNS. So is my

01:08:49cousin, Jimmy Toscano. And I

01:08:50was like, boom, great. So the

01:08:52big thing is it's

01:08:53entrepreneurial. It's

01:08:54entrepreneurial with the

01:08:55heart. It's, I love it. They

01:08:56look clean. I wish I had one.

01:08:57They're doing it. We might be

01:08:59able to think about a Bruins

01:09:01hard hat. Maybe we might be

01:09:02able to talk about it. We'll,

01:09:03we'll think they need to get

01:09:04past the second round to start

01:09:06getting the hard hat going. I

01:09:07think we got it. We got to earn

01:09:09the hard hat. That's the thing.

01:09:10But if we'll guys, thank you

01:09:12for having me on and keep

01:09:13you. Congratulations to you.

01:09:14You guys are awesome at this

01:09:16and you guys have built

01:09:17something amazing. So, um, I'm

01:09:19glad that you guys are seeing

01:09:19it through and the Celtics

01:09:20about to win the championship

01:09:21and you guys deserve it. We

01:09:23might deserve it, but you know

01:09:24what? Don't sleep on Bruins

01:09:25post game. Don't sleep on the

01:09:26Bruins next year because they

01:09:28got some money to spend and

01:09:29they're going to be back. Uh,

01:09:31and, and Evan, that post game

01:09:33sneaky got some pretty damn

01:09:36good viewers coming out of

01:09:37nowhere. So look for that

01:09:38again next year when the

01:09:39Bruins get to this point, it'd

01:09:40be nice to take both of these

01:09:41things deep, deep, deep into,

01:09:43uh, into, into, you know, late

01:09:46may in early slash mid June

01:09:48runs. Yeah. So let's do that.

01:09:51It would be nice. A lot of

01:09:53people don't know that. I did

01:09:54not know that. So that is

01:09:56awesome. I'm in it. That is

01:09:57awesome. Evan Marinovsky, you

01:09:59can catch him at the New

01:09:59England hockey journal. Um,

01:10:01where he, where he plies his

01:10:03trade, but also contributing

01:10:05all sorts of Bruins related

01:10:06content to CLNS media,

01:10:07including Bruins beat podcast.

01:10:09And he's popping on a series,

01:10:11a host of other podcasts,

01:10:12Bruins related podcasts on the

01:10:14CLNS media network. He is the

01:10:16Bruins as far as CLNS media

01:10:17network is concerned. Even if

01:10:19he won't come back and work

01:10:20for me full time, even though

01:10:21I beg him, but that's okay.

01:10:23All right. I will. Thank you

01:10:26guys. I'll go back to playing

01:10:27MLB the show. We'll see. We'll

01:10:28see you all later. Anyway,

01:10:31that's Evan. Great guy. One of

01:10:32the great, one of the great

01:10:33fine. We'll keep him. He's

01:10:36another great find that we've

01:10:38had at CLNS. We've, we've been

01:10:39really lucky and blessed to be

01:10:41able to bring in some like

01:10:43young talent who gets it and

01:10:46like grows themselves into

01:10:48like, you know, into, you know,

01:10:50into butterflies, into real

01:10:51boys. Yeah. Into, you know,

01:10:53into, into grownups. And it's

01:10:54great.

01:11:05We're waiting again on Joe

01:11:06sway and Bobby who for some

01:11:08reason need to listen to every

01:11:10last drop of sound before they

01:11:12jump on this show. It's a, it's

01:11:13an hour and 15 minutes into it,

01:11:15but again, we're going to move

01:11:18on to game four here is what's

01:11:21more likely to happen. Celtics

01:11:23boredom or Matt or Mavericks

01:11:25giving up Mavericks, even though

01:11:27yeah, Mavericks, even though,

01:11:30what do you think Jimmy? What

01:11:32was the first option? Celtics

01:11:34boredom and coasting slash. Hey,

01:11:36maybe we should win it at home,

01:11:37which I think is risky as fuck.

01:11:39I don't like it. I'll tell you

01:11:40why. I do think every game is

01:11:42closer to a coin flip without

01:11:44Porzingis, even though I do

01:11:45believe the Celtics are better.

01:11:46So winning four straight is

01:11:50really hard to do. But if every

01:11:52game is a fifth, not quite a

01:11:5450, 50 ball, but close where

01:11:56you got to really play any let

01:11:58up on any of those puts you in a

01:12:00position to potentially lose.

01:12:01And I don't want to see, I don't

01:12:02want to see them give, give up

01:12:03any of them personally. So I

01:12:05think they're too focused to,

01:12:07um, to tonight, impress the hell

01:12:09out of me just because you took

01:12:10that early punch, you came back.

01:12:12It was a one point game after

01:12:13one. And, and it, it continued

01:12:16from there. Um, and then, and

01:12:18then it, like I said, they came

01:12:19out of the third quarter and

01:12:21they just looked so focused on

01:12:24tat. I don't see them letting

01:12:25up, but you know, I don't know.

01:12:27I'm picturing a similar vibe to

01:12:28game three where the Mavericks

01:12:30come out, they give you like a

01:12:31punch and then the Celtics just

01:12:33overwhelm them. I don't see a

01:12:34fourth quarter comeback in the

01:12:35Mavericks in game four. Like I

01:12:37think of the Celtics go up by

01:12:3820 points like they did in this

01:12:40one. I think that's, you know,

01:12:42the end of it for the Mavericks.

01:12:43Yeah, exactly. Down, down,

01:12:45double digits, you know, Oh

01:12:47three in a series. Like at some

01:12:49point, like you just need to be

01:12:50brought out, brought out back

01:12:52and just put down. I hate to, I

01:12:53hate to say it that way, but

01:12:54let's be real. Um, and I think

01:12:57the Celtics, I think they have,

01:12:58they still feel like they have

01:12:59something to prove they're up

01:13:00three Oh, but they want

01:13:01everybody to know this isn't a

01:13:03mistake. Everybody else was

01:13:05wrong. They knew what they had.

01:13:07They were going to just murder

01:13:08teams, just boom, boom, boom,

01:13:10boom, boom, boom. What is that

01:13:11going to be 11 in a row? If they

01:13:12do that, not three in a row or

01:13:14four in a row, John, they're

01:13:15going to end up winning like 11

01:13:16straight games here. And these

01:13:18aren't just against joke teams.

01:13:20These are teams in the playoffs.

01:13:21Yeah. Could be missing a guy

01:13:23here, a guy there, but the Mavs

01:13:25are healthy and they're putting

01:13:26in work against them. And it's

01:13:27not close. I know the score was

01:13:29close tonight, but talent level,

01:13:30you can, you can clearly see a

01:13:33team that's straight up the best

01:13:36team in the league. And so I

01:13:37think it happens Friday night.

01:13:38And I think the Celtics want to

01:13:40make a statement that, yeah, we

01:13:42swept their asses. You all suck.

01:13:45We're the best. We're going home

01:13:46to celebrate. And that's just

01:13:47what's going to happen. Yeah.

01:13:49And we can hopefully put it in

01:13:50and we can hopefully just, just

01:13:53close the book on the whole

01:13:54Kyrie chapter. Well, speaking of

01:13:56which, let's hear Kyrie. You

01:13:58want to close the chapter? Let's

01:13:59hear Kyrie Jackson. What are we

01:14:01about to listen to? Sad Kyrie,

01:14:03somber voice, Kyrie. Sage Kyrie.

01:14:06It's going to have something to

01:14:07say. Hopeful Kyrie. Hopeful

01:14:10Kyrie is boring. Now we're going

01:14:11to hear on Tillman. Tillman be a

01:14:13frigging awesome. Yeah, man. I

01:14:16just really think about going

01:14:17home and just, uh, you know,

01:14:19this is a metaphor here. So, uh,

01:14:21just be ready to go home and get

01:14:23the ammo ready. Get the bazooka,

01:14:26get the 50 cal ready, you know,

01:14:27get everything ready. Cause it's,

01:14:28you know, when we come into game

01:14:30four, we know that we got to

01:14:31shoot our gun. We got to shoot

01:14:32our shots and we got to do it

01:14:33with an aggression. And

01:14:35defensively, we got to continue

01:14:37to do the things that, um,

01:14:38creates that separation for us.

01:14:40Um, you know, when we're playing

01:14:42against them, they shoot a lot

01:14:43of tough threes. They really rely

01:14:45on their three point shot to

01:14:47create that separation for

01:14:48themselves offensively to play

01:14:49with a comfortability. But, um,

01:14:51you know, we just got to stay

01:14:52positive. And, you know, for me

01:14:53personally, again, I'm just

01:14:54going home, just, you know,

01:14:56dusting off the tools and just

01:14:57getting ready for, you know,

01:14:59tough game four.

01:15:03And dusting off the tools. I

01:15:06mean, what are you building a

01:15:07dog house? You just stole a KG

01:15:09quote and tried to make it like

01:15:11his own.

01:15:12Well, what I'll say is I'm also,

01:15:14I think I've had enough of

01:15:16watching and listening to Kyrie

01:15:18act like he wants you to think

01:15:20everything is normal and cool.

01:15:23Um, it's anything but that.

01:15:25It's not even watching him.

01:15:26Have you ever, have you ever

01:15:28sensed any urgency from him,

01:15:30this entire finals, any, like

01:15:33anything at all after these

01:15:34losses?

01:15:35No, because he's not in the

01:15:37finals, Jimmy. He's in the,

01:15:38he's in the, he's in the

01:15:40rehabilitation of Kyrie Irving

01:15:42documentary, um, that he, that

01:15:44he's, that he's starring in

01:15:46right now, uh, which seems to

01:15:47supersede basketball, uh, at

01:15:49this point. But, you know, he

01:15:51was, he was classic Kyrie in the

01:15:53sense that he does have an

01:15:55insane amount of talent and

01:15:56he's a difficult shot maker and

01:15:57he made him tonight just

01:15:58watching him go through his

01:16:00motions of all of the stuff.

01:16:02And, you know, it's just

01:16:05whatever it is.

01:16:05What it is.

01:16:06He was good.

01:16:06I hope he was really good

01:16:08tonight, but that's, I mean,

01:16:09you're really good and you still

01:16:11lost. Uh, so this whole, the

01:16:13whole concept that, well, if

01:16:15Kyrie plays a little bit better

01:16:16than they've got a shot at

01:16:17winning, yeah, they got a shot

01:16:18at winning.

01:16:18Well, they did.

01:16:19It happened tonight.

01:16:21They shot their, I mean, he

01:16:22talks about, you know, come back

01:16:23for game four, you know, you

01:16:24got to shoot the shot that

01:16:25happened already.

01:16:26That ship is sailed and it ain't

01:16:28coming back around the Harbor.

01:16:30It's a wrap.

01:16:31Everything happened that

01:16:32Dallas needed to happen for

01:16:34them to win and make a series of

01:16:36it. And they didn't in either

01:16:37case.

01:16:38And that included a Celtics

01:16:40abysmal shooting night in game

01:16:42two abysmal.

01:16:44And that's the one you're

01:16:44supposed to win.

01:16:45Then you got your 65 point, you

01:16:48know, uh, whatever it was, you

01:16:51know, uh, uh, game from, from,

01:16:55uh, from Kyrie and Luca and

01:16:58Porzingis didn't play and he

01:16:59didn't win that one either.

01:17:00So you're just, you're out at

01:17:01your, there's, there's no Trump

01:17:03cards left in the deck at this

01:17:04point.

01:17:05No, there's not.

01:17:06There's not.

01:17:06But I lost, I lost my, I lost my

01:17:09X-Men guys.

01:17:10I need it back.

01:17:11Oh, I had X-Men.

01:17:12I wanted, I had a bite from him.

01:17:15That's okay.

01:17:16That's okay.

01:17:17We'll get them.

01:17:17We'll get them back.

01:17:18X-Men deserves, deserves his

01:17:20shine on the show tonight.

01:17:21Absolutely.

01:17:22And I, I only, I'm almost going

01:17:25to do apology camp almost.

01:17:27I'm not going to, but I was

01:17:28pretty critical of Tillman at

01:17:30one point.

01:17:31I think it was back in, um,

01:17:32the last series, I didn't

01:17:33forget where it was now, but he

01:17:34just didn't look, he didn't

01:17:35look like he was, he was in

01:17:38playing shape really well.

01:17:39Is it bad to say I'm proud of

01:17:41him?

01:17:42Like, I can be proud of people.

01:17:44You can be proud of people.

01:17:45I really, because again, it's,

01:17:47it's a really tough spot and it

01:17:49showed in the first stint a

01:17:50little bit, right?

01:17:51Because he, he's, he's rusty and

01:17:53Jimmy, Jimmy, you, you texted us

01:17:55in our, in our group chat.

01:17:57That's why you play.

01:17:58That's why you, that's why Joe

01:17:59probably, probably, probably

01:18:01That's why you, that's why Joe

01:18:02probably over the last 30 games

01:18:04should have given more

01:18:05consistent run to these guys

01:18:06with starters, you know, just to

01:18:09get them into it.

01:18:10I might've just done a game where

01:18:11Al sits and Tillman plays all his

01:18:14minutes, you know, 26 minutes,

01:18:16Al minutes, and just do that.

01:18:18Cause what if you have to do

01:18:19that?

01:18:20And that's how you get used to

01:18:21them in those types of rotations.

01:18:22What if you need to do that?

01:18:24Um, and they didn't enough of

01:18:26guys who you thought could

01:18:28potentially be useful, like a

01:18:29preset, like a Tillman, you know,

01:18:31where you want to dust them off

01:18:32and you can use them in certain

01:18:33matchups at times, I think you

01:18:35should have found more

01:18:36opportunities to, but to his

01:18:38credit, he frigging did it, man.

01:18:40And this guy's been awesome to

01:18:41watch and follow during the

01:18:42finals, just his attitude, the

01:18:45way he deals with it.

01:18:46He's not sitting there thinking

01:18:47like, Hey man, I've played in

01:18:48the playoffs before.

01:18:49I should be here.

01:18:50That's not how he is at all about

01:18:52it.

01:18:52He really is like, when you talk

01:18:54about stay ready crew, he's like

01:18:56the spiritual leader of the stay

01:18:59right.

01:18:59Like he's so clearly I'm ready

01:19:01whenever called upon.

01:19:02And when you put me in, I'm

01:19:03going to be ready to go and I'm

01:19:04going to do my job and he just

01:19:06does it and he's been great.

01:19:07So here he is talking about his

01:19:09performance tonight.

01:19:10The emotions that you felt in

01:19:11that moment when you saw that

01:19:12shot go in the bench, go crazy.

01:19:14And what are you feeling?

01:19:15No action.

01:19:16Look how happy he is.

01:19:17I knew that when I saw Maxi

01:19:19Cleaver go to the, to the block

01:19:21that I was going to shoot

01:19:22regardless of anything.

01:19:23Oh, it's about his three.

01:19:24Um, and then, you know, their

01:19:25bench was talking, so it was

01:19:26kind of cool to be able to hit

01:19:27it and look at the bench as

01:19:28well.

01:19:29Um, but to hear, you know, the

01:19:31bench going crazy on our end,

01:19:33you know, guys like Sfi and

01:19:34O'Shea and stuff like that.

01:19:35Um, it was pretty awesome

01:19:38because those are my guys, you

01:19:39know, those are my SRG guys

01:19:40each day in and day out.

01:19:41We, we go to war with each

01:19:42other to try to better each

01:19:43other, to be ready for whoever's

01:19:45name is called.

01:19:45So for them to celebrate me and

01:19:47be hype for me, it's pretty

01:19:48true.

01:19:48It's pretty cool.

01:19:51They were fired.

01:19:53They were fired.

01:19:53He just gets it.

01:19:54That's what I mean.

01:19:55That was such a moment.

01:19:56We were like, Adam was out of

01:19:57the bench too.

01:19:58He was fired up for it.

01:19:59Yeah.

01:20:00I mean, that's, and that's how

01:20:01you know that the team, that's

01:20:03like good vibes, you know,

01:20:04obviously it's good vibes,

01:20:05right.

01:20:06You know, in that situation,

01:20:07but they're close, they're

01:20:08close team.

01:20:09It's if you get that feeling,

01:20:10you know, I mean, you guys are

01:20:12around it more than I am, but

01:20:13that's the feeling I get from

01:20:15watching anyways, that these

01:20:16guys are, are all fans of each

01:20:18other and support each other.

01:20:19And when one of the guys gets

01:20:21the call from the bench, whether

01:20:22it's Tillman or Luke or, you

01:20:25know, Hauser, they're fired up

01:20:27when those guys go in and

01:20:28they're effective.

01:20:29Like they're all very happy for

01:20:30each other.

01:20:33Yeah.

01:20:33Tillman's also gone through some

01:20:35some personal things recently

01:20:36where I'm sure, you know, this

01:20:37is a huge, huge moment for him

01:20:39and an otherwise pretty tough

01:20:40time.

01:20:41Yeah.

01:20:42The thing you said earlier,

01:20:43Jimmy, you do get that feeling

01:20:45is like there's no ego beyond

01:20:48like you've got a good, I mean,

01:20:49it's pretty well established.

01:20:51You've got the six and then you

01:20:53had the rest of the rotation

01:20:54that was pretty set and they

01:20:55knew what they were getting

01:20:56with, you know, with, with

01:20:58Hauser and Pritchard and then

01:20:59even Cornette getting his

01:21:00minutes, Cornette's the same

01:21:02dude, whether he plays zero

01:21:03minutes or 20 minutes, just

01:21:05happy.

01:21:05He's still a goofball on the

01:21:06bench.

01:21:07They're having a good time.

01:21:08Nobody here has enough ego

01:21:10sitting there thinking, I need

01:21:11my minutes.

01:21:12And honestly, like that's an

01:21:13underrated thing about a top

01:21:15caliber team.

01:21:17Everyone looks, everyone's

01:21:18always looking to bring in a guy

01:21:21to like bolster them.

01:21:22And you start to get greedy

01:21:24around like trade deadlines and

01:21:25stuff and you start to suggest

01:21:26like, why don't we get, who was

01:21:28the center they wanted from

01:21:29Toronto, um, that Bobby wanted

01:21:32really bad for getting here.

01:21:35I know who you're talking about.

01:21:36But anyway, you can't bring in

01:21:38guys who are used to playing 35

01:21:41minutes somewhere and tell them

01:21:43you're going to play

01:21:4310 or 12 here.

01:21:44Was it Pirtle?

01:21:44Pirtle.

01:21:45Was it Pirtle?

01:21:46Pirtle.

01:21:46Yeah.

01:21:47Pirtle.

01:21:47Yacob.

01:21:48San Antonio.

01:21:49Yeah.

01:21:49Um, you can't bring in guys who

01:21:52are used to starting and playing

01:21:5325, 30, 35 minutes and say

01:21:55you're going to play 10 or 12

01:21:57because that's all I need you to

01:21:58do here.

01:21:59They're going to be like,

01:21:59especially guys in contract is

01:22:00like, no, I don't want to do

01:22:02that.

01:22:03I want to do something else.

01:22:04Like, so you need your, you need

01:22:07your seven, eight, nine guys to

01:22:08be seven, eight, nine guys, you

01:22:10know, and just be happy with 10,

01:22:1212, 15 minutes.

01:22:13And they are, that's who they

01:22:14are.

01:22:15I mean, sure.

01:22:16Anybody wants to answer the

01:22:17bell and if they get more time,

01:22:18they get more time, but nobody

01:22:20there is, is, is bitching about

01:22:21it.

01:22:22Um, and so you'd get the sense

01:22:24that every single person knows,

01:22:26appreciates, understands their

01:22:27role, is ready if their number

01:22:28is called, but also isn't going

01:22:30to freak out if it's not so good

01:22:34on them.

01:22:35Um, somebody who is going to

01:22:36answer the bell every single

01:22:37time his number is called Jalen

01:22:39freaking Brown.

01:22:40Here he is talking about stuff.

01:22:42Let me see.

01:22:43Uh, you might even know what it

01:22:44is.

01:22:45Oh, and this is good answering.

01:22:47Well, you know, as they like to

01:22:49do, as they've done a lot,

01:22:50they're answering haters.

01:22:52Hi, haters.

01:22:53Between maybe in past years, you

01:22:55guys, you got the bad ass shades

01:22:57on the night.

01:22:58Very low.

01:22:59Again, let's get this.

01:23:02Let's make place.

01:23:03Let's be the heroes here.

01:23:04I think your experience is the

01:23:05best teacher all year long.

01:23:07We've been hearing about the

01:23:09Celtics of the past, you know,

01:23:11for the last six to eight months.

01:23:13That's all we've been hearing is

01:23:14like, we've, you know, all the

01:23:16different shortcomings we've had

01:23:18in the past.

01:23:18This is no team.

01:23:19You know what I mean?

01:23:20We've learned from those

01:23:21experiences and in these moments

01:23:23you can see that, you know, we

01:23:25didn't run from it.

01:23:25We stepped up to the plate and

01:23:27found a way to win.

01:23:30Damn straight.

01:23:30What is that around his neck?

01:23:32New team, indeed.

01:23:34It doesn't matter, Jimmy.

01:23:35It's cool because Jalen is

01:23:37wearing it.

01:23:37It is.

01:23:38I don't know what we're told.

01:23:40The watch party was full of hard

01:23:41hats here.

01:23:42And speaking of Mark and Melanie

01:23:44bought a hard hat.

01:23:45I know that.

01:23:45So speaking of which, here's

01:23:46what it here's what the factory

01:23:48actually looks like.

01:23:50You guys thought this was a

01:23:51game?

01:23:52This ain't no game.

01:23:53We want to get these out today.

01:23:54So.

01:23:55Yeah.

01:23:55Joe.

01:23:56Damn right you do, Joe.

01:23:58That's a little peek in the lab

01:23:59right there, guys.

01:24:00There's the decals.

01:24:00These aren't just little cheap

01:24:01things.

01:24:04You thought this was a game.

01:24:05Oh, my God.

01:24:06No, it's not a game.

01:24:07Y'all messed up.

01:24:08Yeah.

01:24:12All of a sudden they're invading

01:24:13the beauty garden.

01:24:14But you know what's great?

01:24:15The best thing about it is

01:24:16there's nothing more fun.

01:24:18So again, the knock on.

01:24:20They put that hat on gel, so

01:24:22the knock on the Celtics will be

01:24:23like, oh, there's no.

01:24:25Tatum's not the classic star

01:24:27there.

01:24:27Blah, blah, blah.

01:24:28You know what?

01:24:29Teams are fun.

01:24:30Teams are more fun than single

01:24:32players.

01:24:32Watching a team play like a

01:24:34team is great.

01:24:35We'll follow Harden.

01:24:37Yeah.

01:24:37Go have fun.

01:24:38Yeah, exactly.

01:24:39You go.

01:24:39Go be a Mavs fan and watch

01:24:41Lucas shoot thirty five times a

01:24:42game and not play defense like

01:24:44Lucas.

01:24:45Lucas, an amazing offensive

01:24:46talent.

01:24:47Don't get me wrong.

01:24:48He's a very I don't think

01:24:50anyone can do what he does.

01:24:52Socks.

01:24:53It's boring.

01:24:54Like watching a team play team

01:24:55ball when they play it

01:24:56correctly and trying is great.

01:25:00And like this has been this

01:25:02finals has been great for that

01:25:04reason.

01:25:04It really has, you know,

01:25:07and it's it's been refreshing

01:25:09because let's be honest, it's so

01:25:11much better.

01:25:12Our league.

01:25:13Right.

01:25:13It always ends up being, you

01:25:15know, superstars control where

01:25:18they go, who they play with.

01:25:20You know, they end up, you know,

01:25:22making the making.

01:25:23You know, it's all about the

01:25:24superstar.

01:25:24So it's nice.

01:25:25It's nice to get.

01:25:26And sure.

01:25:26You you were reporting for the

01:25:28ultimate team that won.

01:25:30Right.

01:25:30The Pistons back in the early

01:25:332004 was it.

01:25:36And so it's it's few and far

01:25:38between when you get this.

01:25:39Now, again, it's a little bit

01:25:40different, not completely

01:25:41apples to apples, but it is

01:25:44that team mentality.

01:25:45And yeah, Tatum and Brown are

01:25:46superstars.

01:25:47Brown's the highest paper in the

01:25:48NBA and Brown and Tatum's a

01:25:51three three time NBA first team.

01:25:52So let's not act like they don't

01:25:54have stars or superstars, but

01:25:56the way in which they play when

01:25:58they are at their best, it's

01:26:00when they're moving the ball

01:26:00around, when they're making the

01:26:02extra passes, when they're

01:26:03playing defense, it's when

01:26:04they're making those extra

01:26:05passes, the potential assists.

01:26:07It's not when Brown goes off for

01:26:1050 or Tatum goes off for 50 and

01:26:12everyone else is watching and

01:26:13standing around.

01:26:13They're also a super team.

01:26:15So that helps, too.

01:26:17We should make note of that.

01:26:18Yeah, they're playing like a

01:26:19team, John, but how could you

01:26:20not?

01:26:21They've got they've got, you

01:26:22know, six of the best.

01:26:24But it's just what you're used

01:26:25to, right?

01:26:26Yeah, it's what people are used

01:26:27to because you go back in time

01:26:29and you look at it and every

01:26:30single person has had kind of

01:26:31this that uber alpha star when

01:26:35they win it, whether it's Curry

01:26:37or LeBron, you know, like

01:26:39there's always one of those

01:26:40obvious upper echelon top three,

01:26:43top four players on all these

01:26:45teams going back to, you know,

01:26:47a long, long way where you just

01:26:49don't have very many teams that

01:26:51aren't built that way.

01:26:53And so people are just used to

01:26:56used to that thing.

01:26:59Hold on, guys.

01:26:59I'll bring you on in a second.

01:27:01They're used to that.

01:27:03Being what you need to win a

01:27:05championship and not exactly the

01:27:06case here.

01:27:07All right, let's bring on these

01:27:08guys here, Bobby and all these

01:27:11guys.

01:27:12All right, guys, we've got two

01:27:12minutes and 48 seconds after

01:27:14this.

01:27:14Let's take it away.

01:27:16It's about time John got us on

01:27:17here.

01:27:18Bobby, you want to start?

01:27:19Yeah.

01:27:22And John.

01:27:23And that's it.

01:27:23They're gone.

01:27:24Thanks.

01:27:25Thanks for coming out.

01:27:26Yeah.

01:27:27You're not making me wait one

01:27:28hour and twenty five minutes and

01:27:30complain about the two minutes

01:27:31it took to get you on.

01:27:32We're going to start and try

01:27:33this again, guys.

01:27:33OK, here we go.

01:27:34All right.

01:27:35Again, I'll try it again.

01:27:36So.

01:27:37He's cute.

01:27:38Go ahead, Bobby.

01:27:40We we heard a lot.

01:27:42I made you guys wait.

01:27:43We've just been talking for an

01:27:45hour and we heard a lot after

01:27:46this game about the difference

01:27:47between this team and the past

01:27:50teams, which is something they

01:27:51didn't want to discuss for much

01:27:53of this year.

01:27:53I feel like tonight that

01:27:55finally came out in a big way

01:27:56because it's indisputable.

01:27:57This team in the past would

01:27:59have lost this game.

01:28:00They would have completely

01:28:01unraveled.

01:28:02And like I said off the top, it

01:28:03would have won in the other

01:28:04direction.

01:28:05They probably would have lost

01:28:06this game in a double digits

01:28:07the other way.

01:28:08And we can point to many

01:28:09different games in the past

01:28:10where that did happen as

01:28:12recently as last year.

01:28:13So it was the definitive win of

01:28:16this championship run.

01:28:18Just like they just held on

01:28:21every time, every run.

01:28:22Definitely, Bobby.

01:28:23And I think Jalen Brown, man,

01:28:24we've been saying this all

01:28:25playoffs, but to see what he

01:28:27did in the second half is

01:28:29completely just being in

01:28:30control, saying, look, OK, I'm

01:28:32going to start giving the

01:28:33Dallas Mavericks some problems

01:28:35here.

01:28:35And he just did it in a way

01:28:36that I felt like it's just it's

01:28:37just so indicative of the

01:28:39development that he's done

01:28:41throughout this entire year.

01:28:41Obviously, we talk about his

01:28:42defense.

01:28:43He has to guard Luke all the

01:28:44time.

01:28:45Did a tremendous job in doing

01:28:45that.

01:28:46But the way he put it when I

01:28:47asked him about it after the

01:28:48game was he thought in the

01:28:49first half he was kind of

01:28:51letting the Dallas Mavericks

01:28:52slide a bit.

01:28:53You know, he was sort of taking

01:28:54the first opportunity he got

01:28:55instead of being more patient.

01:28:56And that was what opened

01:28:58everything up in this in that

01:28:59third quarter.

01:28:59It was 16 points in that third

01:29:01quarter, including that assist

01:29:02plus that assist.

01:29:03I should say the Tillman for

01:29:04three.

01:29:05This place got this this place

01:29:07got awfully quiet when the

01:29:08Celtics were on that run in the

01:29:09third quarter.

01:29:10And of course, that's crazy.

01:29:11Celtics bench was going

01:29:12off.

01:29:13Sure, they made things a little

01:29:14interesting, like they often do,

01:29:16you know, in that fourth

01:29:17quarter.

01:29:18But when it came down to it, it

01:29:19came down to defense.

01:29:20And I thought the whole like

01:29:22let's all take turns on

01:29:23challenging Luca to defend

01:29:25because we know he's not going

01:29:26to do it.

01:29:26I thought that was great.

01:29:27And I think that's going to be a

01:29:28huge storyline when this one is

01:29:30done.

01:29:31You know, when we talk about

01:29:32Luca being a top five player,

01:29:34but when it comes down to it,

01:29:35you have to play defense,

01:29:36especially on this level,

01:29:37especially after he was already

01:29:38put on blast.

01:29:40And, you know, after what we

01:29:41saw in game two perspective and

01:29:44now in game three speaks for

01:29:46itself.

01:29:46We didn't see any improvement in

01:29:48that regard.

01:29:48Man, like Luca, you've got to

01:29:50defend like that's just what we

01:29:52do.

01:29:52You know, you know, for him to

01:29:55foul out the way he did is so

01:29:57poetic.

01:29:57It's all number four.

01:29:59Looked like he was trying to get

01:30:00out of the game.

01:30:01The region on Derek White before

01:30:02the last.

01:30:03Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:04John, that's that classic.

01:30:05Oh, I missed a shot, whatever.

01:30:07Or is that going my way?

01:30:08And I'm so mad at the game has

01:30:10to stop right now.

01:30:11So, yeah, that was a frustration

01:30:12foul, a stupid foul that he

01:30:13could have easily kept.

01:30:14But the last one, the fact that

01:30:16he turned to the bench, it was

01:30:17like you guys better F and

01:30:19challenge that.

01:30:19It's like, come on, Luca, your

01:30:21coaches didn't commit that six

01:30:22foul.

01:30:23You did.

01:30:24You got five minutes, six

01:30:25minutes left to go.

01:30:26You can't do that.

01:30:27You cannot fall out of a final

01:30:29game.

01:30:30And of course, it was his first

01:30:30time he's ever done that in the

01:30:31postseason.

01:30:32Such a bad foul to the chance and

01:30:34replay of that.

01:30:35Yeah, exactly, exactly.

01:30:36They tried so hard.

01:30:37He took all the time they could.

01:30:38They looked at every single

01:30:39angle that officials look at

01:30:40each other like, yeah, we got to

01:30:42follow him out.

01:30:42Sorry, Luca.

01:30:43He's your worst defender.

01:30:46Come on.

01:30:46Yeah, right.

01:30:48Guys, you know, I screw out with

01:30:50the boss at accident.

01:30:51I love it.

01:30:52Exactly.

01:30:53I know the Celtics are tired of

01:30:54hearing it, guys, but isn't it

01:30:55fair to draw the comparisons?

01:30:57And again, yes, Holiday and

01:30:59Porzingis are new.

01:30:59But again, this really is about

01:31:01Tatum and Brown, and it always

01:31:03has been.

01:31:03Is it I don't think it's wrong to

01:31:06look back at it, because

01:31:07ultimately, if those are your

01:31:08stars and those are your

01:31:09leaders, that's what you're

01:31:11always going to look to with

01:31:12these guys.

01:31:13And I think, like, the

01:31:14comparisons help them because

01:31:16you're trying to how many you

01:31:17can't resent the comparisons,

01:31:19but also say you've learned a

01:31:20lot from the past, right?

01:31:22If you've learned, that means,

01:31:24well, yeah, that stuff did

01:31:25happen in the past until you see

01:31:27new stuff happen.

01:31:28Like now, that's your story,

01:31:31not this.

01:31:31Yes, it is a different team.

01:31:33But until you write a new story,

01:31:35that's who you are.

01:31:36You're close, but no cigar.

01:31:37Like, okay, great.

01:31:38You're a bridesmaid, you know?

01:31:40And now, they'll be looked at

01:31:42completely differently if they

01:31:44lock this up.

01:31:45I think it changes the entire

01:31:47arc of their careers.

01:31:49Because they've driven this run,

01:31:51too.

01:31:51Tonight, there's no Porzingis.

01:31:53There's been no Porzingis for

01:31:54most of this run.

01:31:55And Horford is a rock.

01:31:56Drew Holliday is a guy who can

01:31:58step up to the plate and make

01:32:00plays on both ends of the floor.

01:32:01But they're the ones initiating

01:32:03all this stuff.

01:32:04I just love that third quarter.

01:32:05I went back and watched them,

01:32:06the pressers.

01:32:07There were three assists between

01:32:09Brown and Tatum directly.

01:32:10You saw them looking for each

01:32:12other.

01:32:12There were multi-pass sequences

01:32:14where there wasn't an assist

01:32:15between them.

01:32:16But a couple guys in between

01:32:18them were setting each other up.

01:32:19There were a lot of missed open

01:32:21shots.

01:32:22So, even more opportunities

01:32:23where they could have assisted

01:32:24each other.

01:32:24I've never seen them pass to

01:32:25each other like that.

01:32:26And the offensive execution

01:32:28throughout that quarter was

01:32:29great as they went up 21.

01:32:31So, you certainly see the good

01:32:32side of Tatum and Brown as a duo

01:32:35in that third.

01:32:35And then, you see the downside,

01:32:37some of the offensive stagnancy

01:32:39that they have in their DNA.

01:32:41It's just the difficult part.

01:32:43Every team has a weakness.

01:32:44Every player has a weakness.

01:32:45And theirs is always going to be

01:32:46that offensive stagnancy

01:32:48creeping in here or there.

01:32:49I don't think that's ever going

01:32:50to go away from this team.

01:32:52But they manage it better.

01:32:53And the big thing is, they

01:32:53defend.

01:32:54The team's defensive consistency

01:32:57is just...

01:32:58That's the floor of having those

01:33:00two guys be your star.

01:33:01And that's the weakness of

01:33:02having Kyrie and Luca be your

01:33:03star.

01:33:04Let me ask you this question,

01:33:05though, guys, because why do we

01:33:05do this to ourselves?

01:33:06And why do Celtics fans continue

01:33:08to do this?

01:33:09You see Porzingis go out and you

01:33:10start to fret over, like,

01:33:11yeesh, Tillman, are you going to

01:33:13be able to do that?

01:33:14Or how are they going to survive

01:33:15there?

01:33:16And, oh, you're going to have to

01:33:16see more Hauser.

01:33:17And everybody gets nervous.

01:33:18But, again, the Mavericks are

01:33:22starting Derek Jones and Gafford

01:33:27and bringing Kleber off the

01:33:30bench.

01:33:30And the first guy off the bench

01:33:31was Jaden Hardy, who played four

01:33:33minutes only.

01:33:34And Green came in.

01:33:35And then they tried Ekstrom in

01:33:36the first half and he got left

01:33:38alone for a dunk.

01:33:39And other than that, did nothing.

01:33:40And he played three minutes.

01:33:42Green, 22 minutes and three

01:33:44points.

01:33:45Like, what are you worried?

01:33:47Hardaway, I didn't even know.

01:33:48I thought you could have told me

01:33:50Hardaway was a DNP tonight and

01:33:52you might as well have been.

01:33:53I don't remember.

01:33:53Well, he's been scratching the

01:33:55surface and that's a third

01:33:56option.

01:33:57So, again, it's like, you know,

01:34:00we still get into this tendency

01:34:02of, like, worrying about, like,

01:34:03wow, jeez, you're going to have

01:34:04to play more.

01:34:05Look what these other guys have

01:34:06to bring up on the floor.

01:34:07Look what they have to bring on

01:34:08the floor.

01:34:09Yeah.

01:34:10Well, they put together the

01:34:11first, their best quarter in the

01:34:12entire finals, right, which was

01:34:14the way they started things off.

01:34:15But then they only had, what, a

01:34:16two-point lead to show for it.

01:34:18I mean, I think that's something

01:34:19they did what I expected them to

01:34:21do in a sense of bouncing back

01:34:22from a rough shooting

01:34:24performance.

01:34:25But they did it right away.

01:34:26And I felt like that was sort of

01:34:28exhausting for the Mavericks

01:34:29where they were just trying to

01:34:30keep up.

01:34:30And all of a sudden, it's like

01:34:31we built this huge lead.

01:34:32And by the end of the quarter,

01:34:33it's pretty much gone.

01:34:34And I think that just that

01:34:35uphill battle while the Celtics

01:34:37were sort of clicking and

01:34:38started to, you know, find their

01:34:39momentum and going into that

01:34:40second half, that's when

01:34:41everything just opened up for

01:34:43the Celtics.

01:34:43But, yeah, I mean, the Celtics

01:34:44did what they were supposed to

01:34:45in terms of finishing that

01:34:46quarter on a very strong note,

01:34:48you know, punching right back

01:34:50when the Dallas Mavericks really

01:34:52got this place rocking.

01:34:53It was easily the loudest they

01:34:54got in here throughout that

01:34:55first-quarter run.

01:34:56And, of course, Kyrie Irving

01:34:57finally found his offense.

01:34:58But it didn't even matter.

01:35:00And I think that when you looked

01:35:01at how deep Jason Kidd went into

01:35:03his bench, he had to, you know,

01:35:04he wanted to, you know, support

01:35:07that terrific first quarter with

01:35:09guys that could maybe hit a few

01:35:10threes here and there.

01:35:11Like, that's all he was

01:35:12generally looking for.

01:35:12Green, he did hit one, but you

01:35:14couldn't get any from Cleaver.

01:35:15He couldn't get anything from

01:35:17Tim Hardaway Jr.

01:35:18And then the Celtics just

01:35:19continued to roll along when

01:35:20they found their momentum.

01:35:21I'm just going to keep saying

01:35:22again and again, too, three

01:35:24games into the series, you never

01:35:26had well, you trapped a little

01:35:27bit in game two, but mostly

01:35:29you've switched everything.

01:35:30It wasn't that much, Bobby.

01:35:32Like I said, one on one.

01:35:33I mean, we're only trying to get

01:35:34an order to get some drop.

01:35:36Yeah, they weren't trying to get

01:35:37awards, right?

01:35:39And that's as aggressive as you

01:35:40got scheme wise there.

01:35:42You were basically switching and

01:35:43playing one on one the whole

01:35:44series.

01:35:44I think the Celtics took 18

01:35:47corner threes in this one and

01:35:48Dallas took five.

01:35:50So it took the corner three away

01:35:51from Dallas.

01:35:53You get efforts like Hauser,

01:35:54Tillman, Pritchard against Luke

01:35:57and like no one would have

01:35:59imagined that coming into the

01:36:00series.

01:36:00And again, that's the belief

01:36:02they have in Joe and some of the

01:36:04scheming he's done on both sides

01:36:05of the ball.

01:36:06Obviously, Jalen set the tone

01:36:07this year for defense.

01:36:09And I try to ask him a little

01:36:10bit about that.

01:36:10He talked a little bit about

01:36:11himself and his individual

01:36:13efforts, and he certainly had

01:36:14them in this game.

01:36:15That sequence where he was on

01:36:17Luca and just aggravating him, I

01:36:19think in the third quarter

01:36:20there was pretty impressive.

01:36:21But the team as a whole, top to

01:36:23bottom, everybody being able to

01:36:24defend Luca and Kyrie one on

01:36:26one, Horford's out there on the

01:36:27perimeter at 38, still switching

01:36:30out there.

01:36:30Tillman.

01:36:33And, you know, that trade, I've

01:36:34been critical of it, but tonight

01:36:36alone makes it worth it.

01:36:37Well, this is kind of what you

01:36:38got him for is a moment like

01:36:40this.

01:36:41Let me ask you guys around the

01:36:42horn real quick.

01:36:43What's the take?

01:36:44What's the media take tomorrow

01:36:46that's going to drive you most

01:36:47nuts, Jimmy?

01:36:49Blaming...

01:36:50Go ahead, Jimmy.

01:36:51Go ahead, Sherrod.

01:36:52He's got it loaded.

01:36:52You're Sherrod.

01:36:53You're Sherrod.

01:36:55Blaming the Dallas loss on Luca

01:36:57picture file number six, which

01:36:59is such bullshit.

01:37:01But go on.

01:37:02Honestly, I'm at this point now.

01:37:05Hi, haters.

01:37:06Nothing's going to bother me.

01:37:07Literally.

01:37:09I'm not going to be...

01:37:10That's a great reference.

01:37:12You're not going to find me in

01:37:13the message boards or in the

01:37:17YouTube comments section.

01:37:19Hi, haters.

01:37:20That's it.

01:37:20All summer long.

01:37:21All summer long, I'm going to be

01:37:22waving hi to all the haters

01:37:24because guess what?

01:37:25Haters always hate.

01:37:26They're always going to find

01:37:27something.

01:37:28They'll move the goalpost and

01:37:28hate on something else.

01:37:30But you really can't hate on

01:37:31this team.

01:37:31They win the championship, which

01:37:32are one game away.

01:37:34I'm going to be saying hi to the

01:37:35haters all summer long.

01:37:37You won't find me spending any

01:37:38energy arguing with any of those

01:37:40people.

01:37:40Any of them.

01:37:41Yeah, but if people...

01:37:42Hi, haters.

01:37:43Haters are going to hate you,

01:37:44Josue.

01:37:45Haters are going to hate you.

01:37:46There's no way...

01:37:47If people say that to Bob Moran,

01:37:48there's no way they can say it

01:37:49with a straight face and

01:37:50insisting that as if, like, the

01:37:52referees, like, robbed him

01:37:53because that's not the case,

01:37:54okay?

01:37:55Lazy defense turns into fouls,

01:37:57you know, especially when

01:37:58subs are in transition and

01:38:00they're a gun for him.

01:38:01They didn't give him a break.

01:38:02No, it was part of the gameplay.

01:38:03It was clear, clear as day.

01:38:05If Luke is on you, go at him.

01:38:07He's going to be a turnstile.

01:38:08And maybe you get a foul while

01:38:10you're driving.

01:38:10I was pretty amazed by that.

01:38:12And, you know, you earn that,

01:38:13right?

01:38:13We've talked about with the

01:38:14Celtics in the past, when Tatum's

01:38:15complaining he's not going to

01:38:16get any breaks, when the whole

01:38:18team, Grant, smart in the past,

01:38:20obviously, too, just constantly

01:38:22yelling at the refs, you're not

01:38:23going to get any breaks.

01:38:24And Luke has been doing that all

01:38:25series here.

01:38:25It was a tough whistle tonight

01:38:27for him, and especially on

01:38:28offense.

01:38:29He'll be all right.

01:38:30He called for two fouls on the

01:38:32floor early where I was like,

01:38:33whoa, they are officiating this

01:38:36one pretty tough here against

01:38:39him in particular.

01:38:40But again, no fault of theirs.

01:38:43Dallas ends up losing this one,

01:38:45the officiating.

01:38:45And I'll go a step further on

01:38:48the take thing because I've just

01:38:51become pretty bored of the Tatum

01:38:52criticism, too.

01:38:53And it is boring, right?

01:38:54Because we're sitting here and

01:38:55saying he's doing all this other

01:38:56stuff.

01:38:56He's not shooting great.

01:38:57We just say the same thing every

01:38:58night.

01:38:59But it's true.

01:39:00And I think he set such a tone in

01:39:02the series with his passing,

01:39:03with the way he handled the

01:39:04crowds.

01:39:05They were so free tonight

01:39:07offensively.

01:39:08Everything looked tough in

01:39:10Boston.

01:39:10Tonight, the ball just sprayed

01:39:12around, and they were making good

01:39:13decisions.

01:39:14And so much of it stems from him.

01:39:15And I love Brown.

01:39:16I love everything he's done in

01:39:17this series.

01:39:18But if all stays equal, and I had

01:39:20a vote, I'd be voting Tatum

01:39:22finals MVP for this year.

01:39:24Oh, my God.

01:39:26Tangway him.

01:39:27Tone he set for this series that

01:39:29flowed into a great night for him

01:39:32scoring the ball in this one,

01:39:33too.

01:39:34And I thought he was on Luka a

01:39:35lot on switches.

01:39:36He took that challenge the last

01:39:37two games.

01:39:38It's no knock on Brown, who's

01:39:39been incredible, too.

01:39:39Yeah, that's my pick.

01:39:4061 tonight, but 61 combined.

01:39:43Yeah, it's Brown.

01:39:44Why does Tatum get it over Brown?

01:39:46It's Brown.

01:39:47Because he's the initiator

01:39:48offensively.

01:39:49And he's the one handling the

01:39:51crowd.

01:39:52But Brown's doing the thing.

01:39:52Brown's doing the actual thing.

01:39:54Right.

01:39:54It stems from the pressure Tatum

01:39:56absorbs at the point of attack.

01:39:58Yeah, I know he's doing

01:40:00everything right here, too.

01:40:01Because he's getting more

01:40:02attention, so you're going to

01:40:02give him MVP?

01:40:04Yeah, because if you took him

01:40:05off the floor.

01:40:07Jimmy, coming into tonight,

01:40:09Tatum was like plus 166 for the

01:40:12playoffs.

01:40:13And the team without him on the

01:40:14floor is plus zero.

01:40:16I understand that he's been

01:40:16important to the team, but when

01:40:17you're talking about the.

01:40:19If you took him off the floor,

01:40:20they would have lost the series.

01:40:22What if you took Brown off the

01:40:23floor?

01:40:24They'd probably find a way to

01:40:25win.

01:40:26What?

01:40:27They win tonight's game without

01:40:28Brown.

01:40:29I don't think they win tonight

01:40:30without Brown.

01:40:31I mean, Brown.

01:40:32Okay, well, Brown's been the

01:40:33best player in two out of three

01:40:34games.

01:40:35You guys are going to keep going

01:40:38back and forth.

01:40:39Again, the pressure's all on

01:40:40Tatum.

01:40:41Bobby's going to lose a lot of

01:40:41points.

01:40:42Two, three guys.

01:40:43I like it.

01:40:44I like that you're sticking with

01:40:45it.

01:40:46It's a good problem to have, I

01:40:47guess.

01:40:47I think you're going to win it.

01:40:49But I give the edge to Jalen,

01:40:50but we still got one more game.

01:40:52Yeah, we'll see what happens in

01:40:53the last game.

01:40:54It's neck and neck.

01:40:54This is why Jalen Brown will go

01:40:59off in game four, because the

01:41:00haters and the detractors.

01:41:02Are still doing it.

01:41:03Of which there are many.

01:41:04It's not hating.

01:41:05I had an East Finals MVP.

01:41:08Well, how big of you?

01:41:09What about now?

01:41:12I have Tatum MVP.

01:41:13This is what fuels.

01:41:14This is what fuels.

01:41:15We were talking about earlier.

01:41:16Brown's figured out a way to

01:41:17keep himself going.

01:41:18He finds negativity and he turns

01:41:20it into that's what gets him

01:41:22going.

01:41:22Like the slights against him.

01:41:24I'm not saying I care

01:41:26specifically about what you're

01:41:27saying, but generally speaking,

01:41:29it feels like he definitely gets

01:41:30the shaft in a lot of

01:41:31situations.

01:41:32It's okay to say what your eyes

01:41:35are probably telling you is that

01:41:37Brown's been the best player in

01:41:38the court through three games.

01:41:40It's okay to feel that way.

01:41:41It's okay.

01:41:42It's okay.

01:41:44So you guys are all Brown?

01:41:46Yeah.

01:41:46I'm Brown.

01:41:47Brown or Holliday.

01:41:49Not to say Tatum hasn't been

01:41:50good.

01:41:51He's done things well, but there

01:41:53are also things scoring-wise that

01:41:55he hasn't done well that doesn't

01:41:57make him anywhere close to an

01:42:00automatic shoe-in or automatic

01:42:01pick for MVP.

01:42:02Whereas Brown, I think Brown has

01:42:04scored in more opportune

01:42:06scenarios in more important

01:42:08situations, and tonight was a

01:42:09perfect example of that in the

01:42:10second half.

01:42:11Well, we just Joe Mazzulla-ed my

01:42:12original question by answering a

01:42:14different question, but the

01:42:15thing that I think is going to be

01:42:16the most annoying narrative

01:42:17tomorrow is what Sherrod said.

01:42:21Luka?

01:42:22A bunch of media who thought...

01:42:24Why did the NBA foul out Luka?

01:42:26No, it's going to be a bunch of

01:42:28media who thought that Dallas

01:42:30was the better team now need to

01:42:31figure out why this is

01:42:33happening, and rather than give

01:42:34the Celtics proper credit, which

01:42:35they do deserve at this point,

01:42:37and honestly, everyone should

01:42:38just...

01:42:39We were wrong.

01:42:41We were wrong.

01:42:42There will not be an apology

01:42:44cam.

01:42:44We need a national apology cam,

01:42:47and what you're going to get is

01:42:48like, Luka, I don't know if you

01:42:51know, maybe he's more hurt than

01:42:53we think he is.

01:42:53Luka collapsed.

01:42:54Celtics, not right.

01:42:55Luka collapsed.

01:42:56No, you don't get the injury.

01:42:57Because it became, it's Kyrie's

01:43:00fault that they're not winning

01:43:01these two, and now it's going to

01:43:03be Luka, because now everyone's

01:43:04picking up on the defense and

01:43:06the stuff like that and getting

01:43:07tired late in games.

01:43:08It's interesting, too.

01:43:09And it's going to be annoying

01:43:10because it's like, no, the

01:43:12Celtics are breaking them.

01:43:14They broke them.

01:43:16They did this to everybody, and

01:43:18it worked, and it doesn't work

01:43:20here because they're too good.

01:43:21They broke them, and it happens.

01:43:23Like, that's what good teams do.

01:43:25They break.

01:43:25Golden State broke the Celtics

01:43:27two years ago by just being

01:43:30awesome.

01:43:30They did to the Pacers, too.

01:43:32You know?

01:43:34I thought the Pacers played a

01:43:35better series against Boston

01:43:36than Dallas has so far, and they

01:43:38broke them and came back from

01:43:39three games.

01:43:40Again, we said it.

01:43:40You could have been down 3-1 in

01:43:42that series very easily.

01:43:43You don't look at this series at

01:43:44all so far.

01:43:45I know game two got a little

01:43:46wonky, and tonight you were down

01:43:48early, but you're not sitting

01:43:49here saying, oh, Dallas could

01:43:50easily be up in this series.

01:43:52You came away from a four-game

01:43:54sweep against Indy, having to do

01:43:56some heroic stuff late in those

01:43:58games to turn those around and

01:44:00win and sweep.

01:44:01So, you probably met your

01:44:03biggest challenge in these

01:44:04finals so far.

01:44:05I just have been very

01:44:06unimpressed with Dallas here,

01:44:07not to say that Boston hasn't

01:44:08broken them and done all that

01:44:10stuff, but it's a bad matchup for

01:44:11the Mavs.

01:44:12There's certainly some teams in

01:44:13the West that probably would have

01:44:14given Boston a harder time, but

01:44:16as we've said, you play who you

01:44:17play, and to have a 10-game win

01:44:20streak going in the playoffs,

01:44:21again, I emphasized that earlier,

01:44:22Joe Sway, that doesn't happen,

01:44:24and they might make it 11 here.

01:44:26Crazy, right, Bobby?

01:44:27That's regular season stuff.

01:44:28That doesn't happen in the

01:44:29playoffs.

01:44:31I don't know this, but I'm sure

01:44:33it's easy to find.

01:44:34What's the longest winning streak

01:44:35in the playoffs?

01:44:36I'm sure the Celtics have got to

01:44:38be pretty close to it.

01:44:40You probably have to, I mean,

01:44:42without knowing specifically,

01:44:43that Golden State team from 2016-17,

01:44:47they went 16-1 in the playoffs.

01:44:50They won 15 straight that year.

01:44:52Oh, okay.

01:44:54Did they lose game one?

01:44:55They started a good team as well.

01:44:58I think they went 1-1 in their

01:44:59first series and won the next 15

01:45:01or something like that.

01:45:02Yeah.

01:45:03Right.

01:45:03They won the first, lost game.

01:45:05It has to be.

01:45:05That's the only way you can win

01:45:0615 in a row.

01:45:08But has anyone ever seen a team

01:45:11like this where that's not being

01:45:13discussed?

01:45:14It's not about the run,

01:45:15it's not about the winning streak.

01:45:16It's about Tatum, you know,

01:45:17or it's about is Jalen Brown

01:45:20the better guy or whatever the

01:45:22national TV wants to go with.

01:45:25But it's rarely about how great

01:45:26this team is and about the stats

01:45:29and the historic run this has

01:45:31been, you know.

01:45:32But maybe that'll be something

01:45:33they bring up tomorrow morning

01:45:34alongside Luka fouling out,

01:45:36for sure.

01:45:37But that'll take the cake.

01:45:38Celtics could so easily be

01:45:40undefeated in these playoffs,

01:45:41which is the crazy thing.

01:45:42And no one would care, man.

01:45:44They haven't lost since the

01:45:45second round.

01:45:46No one's even talking about it.

01:45:49Finally, will the media and the

01:45:51heat kind of be off them a

01:45:52little bit?

01:45:53And is it going to be on Dallas

01:45:54tomorrow?

01:45:55What happened to Dallas?

01:45:56Did they fall on their face?

01:45:57It's not, again, I think it's

01:45:59less Dallas failures as it is

01:46:00that the Celtics are just doing

01:46:01it to them.

01:46:02Definitely.

01:46:03Yeah, it's definitely that.

01:46:04I mean, their defense has been

01:46:06suffocating.

01:46:07They don't let guys off the

01:46:08hook.

01:46:09They don't.

01:46:10We talked about it earlier.

01:46:11With the backcourt of, you know,

01:46:12Drew and White, those guys are

01:46:15nonstop.

01:46:16And if you're, you know, if

01:46:18you're any of these Mavericks

01:46:18players, down 3-0, looking at,

01:46:22you know, Holiday and White just

01:46:23ready to pounce on you again,

01:46:25like, that's got to be pretty

01:46:26deflating.

01:46:28Yeah.

01:46:28The one other thing I want to

01:46:29bring up here, and I'm sure you

01:46:30guys touched on it a little bit.

01:46:33Long term, you do start to think

01:46:36now, and I love them to death,

01:46:37but, man, what they've done

01:46:39without Chris Stapps here.

01:46:41And Jalen even said it in the

01:46:42press conference, and it came

01:46:43off sounding a little weird,

01:46:45but he said they weren't

01:46:47surprised he went down again.

01:46:48Like, they've done it the whole

01:46:51postseason without him, so he

01:46:52goes down again.

01:46:53And not that they don't miss a

01:46:56beat here.

01:46:56I thought it took a little bit

01:46:57of an adjustment early in this

01:46:58game.

01:46:59But they spent a large portion

01:47:01of the season without Chris

01:47:02Stapps, and they won almost all

01:47:04the games.

01:47:05I mean, they won without

01:47:06everybody.

01:47:08They were undefeated without

01:47:09Jalen Brown.

01:47:09But he was out the most.

01:47:10It doesn't say.

01:47:11I know.

01:47:12But their record was so good.

01:47:14They had a good record without

01:47:15everybody.

01:47:15They really did.

01:47:16Right.

01:47:17He's been out the most.

01:47:18He's been out the entire

01:47:19playoffs, and they've won

01:47:21pretty much every game.

01:47:22But you're expecting it.

01:47:23He played the expected amount of

01:47:25games this year.

01:47:25It's just a bummer that he got

01:47:27hurt.

01:47:27Yeah, you won.

01:47:29Remember, the whole point of

01:47:31bringing him in was so that he

01:47:32could help you win a

01:47:33championship, and he did his

01:47:34job.

01:47:35He played six games in the

01:47:35playoffs.

01:47:36And I wanted him to win.

01:47:37But he played a lot of games.

01:47:38You might not be a 2-0 without

01:47:40him.

01:47:40I had him at, like, five games

01:47:42during the season, just so you

01:47:43could preserve him for this

01:47:44run.

01:47:45The game one performance was

01:47:46big.

01:47:46Absolutely.

01:47:47Bobby, you might not be a 2-0

01:47:48without him.

01:47:49I don't know.

01:47:51It's just going to be

01:47:52interesting because we've had

01:47:53that conversation about how

01:47:54this group's going to chart into

01:47:56the future.

01:47:56I know they're going to talk to

01:47:57Derrick White this summer, and

01:47:59that's going to be a substantial

01:48:00total if it is the full maximum

01:48:02that you can possibly give to

01:48:04him.

01:48:04And they signed him to a good

01:48:05extension, $30 million a year

01:48:07here.

01:48:08But it's been tough.

01:48:10And Drew talked about it a

01:48:11little bit tonight.

01:48:13Jalen certainly showed in some

01:48:14of his comments there.

01:48:15It's been difficult to watch the

01:48:18way the health has deteriorated

01:48:20as the year's gone on.

01:48:21And that's certainly been the

01:48:22case with him pretty much every

01:48:25year of his career, outside of

01:48:26you here or there.

01:48:27So, you'll definitely run this

01:48:30full group back next year.

01:48:31But in two years, you start to

01:48:33make decisions where you are at

01:48:36at that point.

01:48:37Let's win one more, Bobby, and

01:48:38then we'll have this one.

01:48:39Two years.

01:48:39I'm thinking about two days.

01:48:40It's just tough.

01:48:41Friday night.

01:48:43I mean, isn't this a difficult

01:48:44position for him to be in right

01:48:46now?

01:48:46Because you came here, you want

01:48:49to be part of this run.

01:48:50He said, you're right, John.

01:48:51He had that massive, massive

01:48:53contribution in game one.

01:48:54He hasn't played on this run.

01:48:56It's a difficult position for

01:48:57all of us to be in because I

01:48:58don't think anyone wants to have

01:48:59this conversation right now.

01:49:01The Celtics are one win away

01:49:02from a championship.

01:49:04I think we got to.

01:49:05You're talking about bringing up

01:49:06the band.

01:49:06That teammate.

01:49:07He's like, I'm sorry.

01:49:09Can we just get another hit?

01:49:10Can we just get another hit

01:49:11record before we bring up

01:49:12the band?

01:49:13Yeah, come on.

01:49:14Let's let's let's let's let's

01:49:17accept the Grammy.

01:49:18Right.

01:49:18Let's let me.

01:49:18You can enjoy this before you

01:49:20worry about two years for sure.

01:49:22For sure.

01:49:23It's just it's man.

01:49:25He came back for two games.

01:49:27It's yeah, it's and they won

01:49:29both of those games, which

01:49:30means he did a job a little bit

01:49:32kind of typical.

01:49:34I mean, you really think he

01:49:34would just played the entire

01:49:35series of like like injury

01:49:37freely.

01:49:38That's that's that's a lot to

01:49:40ask for someone that again has

01:49:42to go back into playing into,

01:49:44you know, playoff style NBA

01:49:47finals.

01:49:47Everyone's been playing for the

01:49:48last breaking up the two months

01:49:50and I don't know.

01:49:51Well, look, I'm sure my point is

01:49:53like I was going into this

01:49:54finals thinking he's probably

01:49:56going to get the best of Chris

01:49:58that's at the front end and

01:49:59it's going to kind of teeter

01:50:00off.

01:50:01That is going to happen like

01:50:01this.

01:50:02No, but it was really surprised

01:50:03me.

01:50:04I mean, that stuff is tricky

01:50:05when it comes to foot injuries

01:50:06and ankles and stuff like that.

01:50:07And he's probably going to

01:50:08surgery after this.

01:50:09But it's just it's tough.

01:50:12But the way this team bounced

01:50:13back and continues to play well

01:50:14without him, it's I'm only

01:50:17bringing up because Jalen said

01:50:18it is things where it's just

01:50:19unfortunate.

01:50:19But you kind of again going into

01:50:24the season, I was taking a

01:50:25three year window.

01:50:26Chris that's you know, like it's

01:50:27just historically speaking,

01:50:29he's had these injuries since he

01:50:30was 19.

01:50:30You know, those bigs, especially

01:50:32seven three that historically

01:50:34they don't they don't they don't

01:50:35have a long career in the NBA.

01:50:36I mean, who do you guys think

01:50:37the Celtics might target with

01:50:39the number 30 pick?

01:50:40Shut up, shut up.

01:50:42Off season mode.

01:50:43Ronnie James, that's who.

01:50:45Ronnie James.

01:50:46If Mavs fans are watching,

01:50:48they're so mad.

01:50:48They look at these on.

01:50:50Yeah, because at fifty five,

01:50:53Bobby, I think there's a lot of

01:50:54good options that they're 30.

01:50:57I'm not sure, but fifty five,

01:50:58you might again, Jalen said

01:50:59tonight it wasn't a surprise.

01:51:02He went down and well, I want to

01:51:05hear it because I want to hear

01:51:07the context again.

01:51:08Yeah, I think, you know,

01:51:09exactly.

01:51:10I think sometimes they were

01:51:11prepared for it.

01:51:12Right.

01:51:12Comes out a little bit wrong.

01:51:14And that's just the way it is.

01:51:15Like, same thing with holiday a

01:51:16couple of days ago.

01:51:17Yeah, something.

01:51:18And like, do we think he's done

01:51:19done or you think they try to

01:51:22sneak it out there?

01:51:24Oh, I mean, oh, you mean this

01:51:25year?

01:51:26Yeah, I'm still talking about

01:51:28what's going on in this series.

01:51:29Yes.

01:51:29I'm going to talk about that.

01:51:30I'm done.

01:51:31I know.

01:51:32No, like you think you think he's

01:51:33you think they try it again up

01:51:34three at this point?

01:51:36You would think if he doesn't

01:51:37feel like I would feel like you

01:51:39you could probably at this

01:51:40point get away with not doing

01:51:42game four.

01:51:43And then if you felt the need,

01:51:44you might sneak him in for eight

01:51:46ten hero minutes in game five

01:51:48just to be able to be out there

01:51:49and smile and maybe, you know,

01:51:51that'd be great.

01:51:51And I think that's more likely

01:51:54to be honest, you know, the fact

01:51:55that he didn't even go through

01:51:56his pregame routine, I think

01:51:57speaks volumes as to where he's

01:51:58at.

01:51:59You know, like he's I don't I

01:52:00don't even think he was close

01:52:02for game three and game four is

01:52:04only a couple of days away.

01:52:05So, I mean, up three.

01:52:06Oh, yeah.

01:52:07Well, you probably don't see him

01:52:08out there.

01:52:09Maybe in game five, but I don't

01:52:11think, yes, I don't think you

01:52:13see him the whole series.

01:52:14I never thought so.

01:52:15But again, thankfully, you got

01:52:16game three here, guys.

01:52:18Are we going back to Boston to

01:52:19wrap it up there or is it going

01:52:21to happen here?

01:52:22Final predictions, Sharad here

01:52:25over.

01:52:25I think it's here.

01:52:26OVA you guys over.

01:52:29I'm with you guys.

01:52:29I think it's over Friday night.

01:52:31Get ready.

01:52:32We're going to be patty and

01:52:33weekend Friday night.

01:52:35We crashed your party.

01:52:36Yeah.

01:52:37Yeah.

01:52:38This one this one.

01:52:38This one's cooked, man.

01:52:39Kari and I don't want to go back

01:52:41to Boston.

01:52:41Slowly.

01:52:43I think they really took the

01:52:45winds out their sails.

01:52:46Luca falls out in the first

01:52:47quarter.

01:52:48Next game is amazing.

01:52:51What a team.

01:52:52Look at my job.

01:52:5240.

01:52:53Guys.

01:52:54Never.

01:52:54No one went away.

01:52:56Go get your go.

01:52:58Get your merch.

01:52:58We will see you guys back here

01:53:00on Friday.

01:53:00We'll do something tomorrow on

01:53:02the off day.

01:53:03What's up?

01:53:03This way.

01:53:04One more.

01:53:05No, I'm saying one more.

01:53:06Oh, I got nothing to say.

01:53:07I'm saying one more.

01:53:08One more.

01:53:08Guys, one more.

01:53:09Guys, we're going to wrap it

01:53:10up.

01:53:11Thank you guys for joining us

01:53:11here.

01:53:12It's been almost two hours.

01:53:13We are one win away from

01:53:15Banner 18.

01:53:16Spell this win.

01:53:17This one.

01:53:18One.

01:53:18Oh, six.

01:53:19Ninety nine.

01:53:19After being down 13 points

01:53:21early in this game, they roar

01:53:23back.

01:53:24Take a 21 point lead.

01:53:25Hang on and beat the Mavericks

01:53:28to take a 3 0 series lead.

01:53:29We are out.

01:53:30We will see you guys later.

01:53:32If you want more basketball

01:53:33talk.

01:53:33I know the first of the floor

01:53:35guys are ready and they're

01:53:36going to bring it over on

01:53:37their channel.

01:53:38So keep it going all night

01:53:40long if you want.

01:53:41We'll be back tomorrow.

01:53:41Take care.

01:53:42Wait, I'm going to get an

01:53:43outro for us.

01:53:44I think.

01:53:44No, he doesn't.

01:53:45He said he was going to work

01:53:46on an outro.

01:53:48He had a phenomenal game.

01:53:50Phenomenal.

01:53:53Forfeit's out.

01:53:54I think it's an option.

01:53:58That did not sound like a

01:53:59chair.

01:54:00It was a freaking chair.

01:54:02It does sound like a chair.

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