Sam and Jack are back with another Boston Celtics podcast. In this one, they discuss whether or not the Miami Heat are playing dirty against the Celtics, the latest injury update on Jimmy Butler, and Paul Pierce calling Jayson Tatum the best American-born NBA player in the league right now. Plus, they talk about Game 1s of the NBA Playoffs, The Athletic's player poll, and NBA Awards finalists. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!
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0:00 Intro
1:20 Heat injuring Celtics?
17:43 Jimmy Butler not coming back
21:07 Paul Pierce all-in on Jayson Tatum
25:15 Email check-in
39:37 Hot takes from every Game 1
01:01:52 The Athletic player poll
01:24:53 NBA Award finalists
01:38:07 The Rat List
01:55:06 Outro
Podcast Twitter: @HowBoutThemCs
Sam's Twitter: @SamLaFranceNBA
Jack's Twitter: @JackSimoneNBA
0:00 Intro
1:20 Heat injuring Celtics?
17:43 Jimmy Butler not coming back
21:07 Paul Pierce all-in on Jayson Tatum
25:15 Email check-in
39:37 Hot takes from every Game 1
01:01:52 The Athletic player poll
01:24:53 NBA Award finalists
01:38:07 The Rat List
01:55:06 Outro
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00:00:00And we are back with another episode of How Bout Them Celtics, Sam and I are here recording
00:00:14Monday, April 22nd, the day after game one of Celtics Heat, we did our whole recap after
00:00:19the game, you can check that out on the channel right now, excuse me, for our full in-depth
00:00:23thoughts, it's up on audio platforms too, you can see it there.
00:00:26A reminder, as always, before we get into everything, make sure to leave a like on the
00:00:29video, we'd appreciate it very, very much, we're going to be pumping out content during
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00:00:44us five stars, all that good stuff, Sam, how are you doing today?
00:00:47I'm doing good, I'm excited for the show today, we got game one win to talk about a little
00:00:53bit more, a little injury update coming at you from this series, we got the rest of the
00:00:57playoffs to talk about, and even some NBA award finalists to talk about, who doesn't
00:01:03love that, and we always have the rat list at the end, so stick around for that.
00:01:07Yes, sir, yes, sir, okay, let's dive in, and a reminder, Sam just outlined some of the
00:01:13topics on the YouTube, the topics are in the description of every single pod, so you can
00:01:17just click around if you'd like to listen to certain topics, but anyways, we're going
00:01:20to start with game one, Celtics absolutely murder the heat in game one, again, like I
00:01:25said, we did a recap on the channel, you can get our full in-depth thoughts there,
00:01:27but Jason Tatum, triple-double, 23-10-10, played the role of facilitator very well,
00:01:32so the Celtics defense completely locked up the heat, and Bam Edobayo, Tyler Hero, couldn't
00:01:37do anything because of Drew Holiday, and the Celtics are now up 1-0 in the series, good
00:01:42win, I mean, we can do a brief recap of the game here, we've talked about it twice already
00:01:46on the channel, and on Talk and Seize Today with Bobby Gretzky, but yes, Sam, up 1-0,
00:01:51can't ask for much more.
00:01:53When your team wins in the playoffs, you just can't stop talking about it sometimes, you
00:01:56just gotta hammer it home, quick takeaways from game one, thought the Celtics looked
00:02:01like a serious team for the first time in a little over a year in the playoffs, right?
00:02:07Nice to see them come out and look serious in game one, they left absolutely no doubt
00:02:12in this game, they come out and score 14 straight points to kick off the game, and people like
00:02:18me, who might have been a little bit anxious heading into this game, quickly were walked
00:02:24way far away from the ledge, and got to relax and enjoy some good playoff hoops for the
00:02:31rest of the day, that is until Bam Edobayo laid out Derek White and Caleb Martin to try
00:02:37to kill Jason Taylor.
00:02:38Yeah, let's talk about that, I feel like that's the real sticking point, we can do a VAR
00:02:43here, we can start with Caleb Martin, we did this a little bit on the show where we recapped
00:02:48the game, but obviously Caleb Martin undercut Jason Tatum while he was going for a rebound,
00:02:54Jalen Brown got in his face, Brown and Martin got double technicals, Bill Simmons talked
00:02:57about it on this podcast today saying I thought he got shoved by Drew Holiday, guys don't
00:03:02try to hurt each other like that in basketball, if they do it's a repeated thing where they
00:03:05are known for it, like you mentioned on Talking Seeds with Draymond, but here's the playing
00:03:10question, I'll pull it up for us to take a look at here, let me just put us in the corner
00:03:15so we can share the screen, but here is the playing question where he undercut Jason Tatum,
00:03:24I think from this angle it's pretty clear that Drew Holiday pushed his momentum into
00:03:29Tatum, I don't think Drew was trying to do anything malicious, I think it's just him,
00:03:33I mean it's a physical game, it's a physical playoff, Tatum said this after the game, it's
00:03:36physical, he wasn't even mad at Caleb Martin in general, but I don't think there was any
00:03:40malicious action upon second review from Caleb Martin here, I don't think he did anything
00:03:46intentional, I don't think he would try to hurt him like that.
00:03:49The play itself looked pretty bizarre at the time, considering that the game was pretty
00:03:55much over and there was no need to fly in for a box out like that when Tatum's already
00:04:00in midair, however, you can see the significant increase in speed after Martin gets shoved
00:04:08by Drew Holiday, a shove by the way that does not look extremely powerful from certain
00:04:12angles, but when you see the wide angle that's shown at the beginning of this replay, it
00:04:17does change the point of view a little bit, do I think that it was intentionally trying
00:04:23to hurt him, probably not, but you do also have a little bit of a decision to make when
00:04:29you get shoved like that, he could have just kinda not jumped and not ran into Tatum.
00:04:37He didn't jump, like I think that was the problem, like the problem was he didn't jump
00:04:40because he got shoved, like if he had jumped, this wouldn't have been a problem because
00:04:43they would have just been in midair, you see what I'm saying, like he didn't have time
00:04:45to jump, I think he was gonna go jump right here, yeah, well, because he got shoved, like
00:04:51this is the angle that does it for me here, right here, like you can see he was gonna
00:04:55jump effectively in line with where Kristaps is standing and they would have like bumped
00:04:59in the air, but cuz Drew pushed him, it like changed his course and he like couldn't jump
00:05:05until he was already under Tatum, who for what it's worth, Caleb Martin wasn't even
00:05:08looking at Tatum for the entirety of the play, like I just, obviously like the knee jerk
00:05:13reaction is what the hell, what are the Heat doing, etc, etc, but like watching this review,
00:05:18I just think it was an unfortunate like series of events, like I just, it just, he got shoved,
00:05:23he didn't see Tatum, Tatum didn't know he was coming in, and he fell hard, and luckily
00:05:27Tatum was okay, so none of this really matters, but yeah, I mean, I don't think there was
00:05:33anything malicious, so I think Caleb Martin gets the all clear, at least for me, I don't
00:05:38think he meant to do anything.
00:05:39Well, he's definitely not all clear, fuck that guy, but do I think he's a dirty player
00:05:44today?
00:05:45No.
00:05:46You have a couple more games to earn my respect in the dirty player column, but you haven't
00:05:50done it just yet.
00:05:51You're not on Draymond's level.
00:05:52Now, the title of this podcast is something along the lines of like, are the Heat playing
00:05:57dirty against the Celtics, or Heat's dirty plays, that's probably what we're gonna title
00:06:01it, something to that effect, because that's what we're gonna be talking about for the
00:06:04first 10 minutes, 15 minutes of the show, but Caleb Martin gets the clear, Sam, do you
00:06:08know who doesn't get the clear?
00:06:09Bam.
00:06:10Let's pull this up.
00:06:11He is in the Draymond School of Basketball slash screen setting.
00:06:15Let's pull this up.
00:06:16Let me find it.
00:06:17Nobody loves to move when they set a screen, quite like this man.
00:06:20Yeah, so this is the play in question, Derek White goes flying, Bam Adebayo is the best
00:06:25in the league at setting illegal screens without letting them come off as illegal screens,
00:06:29this is a perfect example.
00:06:30I don't want sound, what the fuck?
00:06:33Wham.
00:06:34Hip checks, or shoulder checks, Derek White.
00:06:37Just entire left side of his body checked.
00:06:40Yeah.
00:06:41What are we doing?
00:06:42Like, knee out, shoulder into his chest, like, moving, you can see the feet sliding during
00:06:48the play, like, how is this not an illegal screen?
00:06:51What are we watching?
00:06:52Like, what are we doing?
00:06:53I understand you have to allow physicality, level of physicality, this ref is staring
00:06:56at it and nothing.
00:06:59What the hell?
00:07:00What is happening?
00:07:01It's crazy, man.
00:07:02It's insane.
00:07:04So this play rules because after the fact, which is not shown in this clip, the coaching
00:07:09staff is none too pleased with what you know, when in the game that was how late?
00:07:14Well, when in the game, I can, like, look at it in the third quarter, late in the third
00:07:18quarter.
00:07:19Okay.
00:07:20Let me see that.
00:07:21I could be wrong.
00:07:22That shows the clock.
00:07:25I do think for what it's worth, Derek White is embellishing maybe a little because he
00:07:31knows that BAM is moving.
00:07:35At the very least, this is an illegal screen.
00:07:37I don't know if it's a injury type play where people should be extremely concerned about
00:07:44it.
00:07:45But at the time, it didn't look nice.
00:07:48I mean, I tweeted out during the game, like, BAM MetaBio just said in nasty parentheses,
00:07:53less than legal screen against Derek White.
00:07:57And the Celtics are displeased.
00:07:58I'm going to pull it up here.
00:08:01It was in the fourth quarter with around eight minutes left.
00:08:03I'm hoping like there was like a shot or something attempt that I can look at that will show
00:08:11the replay.
00:08:12But the worst part of the Caleb Martin thing is everybody was so focused on that.
00:08:18You couldn't even ask Joe and the gang about what they thought of BAM.
00:08:21I know.
00:08:23Whatever it is, the reaction isn't as visceral as I remember during the game.
00:08:26But like you can see people getting upset and Tatum gets really upset after the fact
00:08:30about it.
00:08:31Like you get shoved.
00:08:32You can see like some people on the bench not paying attention.
00:08:36Derek White was really mad.
00:08:37Like he was screaming and Jason Tatum, I think it's called for a foul here or something.
00:08:40And then he is pointing at like, how are we not calling BAM thing?
00:08:44Dude, I saw a friend of the pod, Andrew Claudio, or not friend of the pod, but friend of the
00:08:50pod.
00:08:51He has been all in on the heat or a dirty team all season.
00:08:57Knicks fans are all in on the heat thing because I think Randall got hurt against Miami too.
00:09:03And somebody else that went out for a significant amount of time was injured at the hands of
00:09:09the heat for them too.
00:09:11So they, they are the ones that I have heard the most of watch out for the heat.
00:09:16Not that they're going to beat you, but they will try and break your legs.
00:09:19Mm hmm.
00:09:20Let me see.
00:09:21Uh, okay.
00:09:22I found the play that they're mad at.
00:09:27Um, I don't know if this is necessarily a dirty play, uh, but I think this is what next
00:09:33Knicks.
00:09:34Yeah.
00:09:35This is what Knicks fans were pissed at as far as the heat playing dirty.
00:09:38Um, it's Jaime Hawkins goes to draw a charge on a driving Julie.
00:09:42Mind you, this is another game that is over.
00:09:45Yes.
00:09:46Yes, it is.
00:09:47And I don't want to sound, uh, Jaime Hawkins.
00:09:50Yeah.
00:09:51See, I don't think this is Jaime Hawkins.
00:09:52His fault.
00:09:53I think this is, this rule needs to be adjusted.
00:09:55Like Randall was already driving.
00:09:57He had already gathered the ball when Hawkins was still moving.
00:10:00That should be, uh, okay.
00:10:01They called it a foul on Hawkins at least because he was still moving, but like, it's
00:10:06just the charge thing.
00:10:07Like I think you should have to be guarding, actively guarding the defender to be the,
00:10:12excuse me, the offensive player to be able to draw a charge.
00:10:14These step in chargers are what makes it dangerous or it has to be like far before you gather.
00:10:18You know what I'm saying?
00:10:19Like that, that's where things get the more, the more that we discuss this and the more
00:10:23I hear about it from other people like us, the more I feel like this will change in the
00:10:29coming seasons.
00:10:30I don't know if it's going to change right away, but it does feel always, I mean, listen,
00:10:35Marcus was on our team for years and yeah, I love him, but it does feel kind of cheap
00:10:40to like be like, Hey, I'm not guarding you.
00:10:41You beat your guy.
00:10:43Watch out for me.
00:10:44I'm going to just stand here.
00:10:45Don't hit me.
00:10:48So I can see it being changed.
00:10:49I don't think it's something that you see anywhere other than like professional slash
00:10:56D one games.
00:10:57Like you just don't see a ton of that Pelicans fans also displeased with the, the heat.
00:11:02I just searched like heat dirty and here's, here's a little, here's a little Duncan Robinson
00:11:06action for you.
00:11:07Duncan Robinson on the ground, Herb Jones going to run down the floor, a little, a kick
00:11:12up my foot a little bit and trip you here.
00:11:14Oh, it looks like Mac Jones.
00:11:17Hmm.
00:11:18Yeah, exactly.
00:11:19Um, I don't know, man.
00:11:23I hate calling like teams and stuff dirty.
00:11:25Cause I like, do you hear Scales, um, take on it was pissed about the, I didn't put on
00:11:30the sheet.
00:11:31So scowl, if you didn't see yesterday when a huge ran on NBC sports Boston about the
00:11:35Caleb Martin play and he was like, he should be suspended.
00:11:38There's no place in the game for this.
00:11:40A lot of things along that line.
00:11:42And then he went on the Dan levitating show today, which is a huge hit in Miami, big local
00:11:47programming for them down there.
00:11:50And he inevitably talked about this.
00:11:53Know who's none to please Jack.
00:11:56One Udonis Haslam.
00:11:57Shocker.
00:11:58Yeah.
00:11:59Surprise.
00:12:00What'd he say?
00:12:01I think he was like, shut the fuck up, Brian, or something like that.
00:12:07Yeah.
00:12:08I don't think the Caleb Martin one was the one they'd be mad at after seeing the replay.
00:12:12The way he like inferred that Spode told Martin to go out there.
00:12:15Like, I'm sorry, but I don't think, like, I don't know that that's aggressive.
00:12:20This is another one that I found on Twitter of bam, just grappling.
00:12:26He's at the bottom of your screen here.
00:12:27If you're watching on YouTube, he's grappling with Derek Jones jr.
00:12:30And he sort of yanks his arm around and then just like, just, yeah, just, just doesn't
00:12:37look pretty.
00:12:38I think this was equal Derek Jones, but like, he just has nowhere to go.
00:12:42Like he tries to turn around and bam, doesn't let it go.
00:12:44So I don't think this was like completely bam, but like there's a, there's a line where
00:12:49physicality meets dangerous and the heat ride that line very tightly.
00:12:53That's the way I'll phrase it.
00:12:54Like it's, I mean, this, this was a reason that I think you and some other or not you,
00:13:01but some of the people on the round table were like, I don't want to play the heat.
00:13:04I think this was Bobby's thing.
00:13:05Like, I just don't want the Celtics to get hurt.
00:13:07I don't want them to injure our team.
00:13:09Yeah.
00:13:10Yeah.
00:13:11Good take.
00:13:12Good take.
00:13:13Yeah.
00:13:14I saw a ton of like Reddit comments, Reddit posts about, yeah, this is why nobody, this
00:13:18is why people say the heat of the team.
00:13:20Nobody wants to see this.
00:13:22Definitely.
00:13:23A quote from Udonis Haslam, Instagram comments, shut yo sucka ass up to exclamation points.
00:13:31He got pushed Brian weak ass, capital W two exclamation points.
00:13:37Hmm.
00:13:38Weird.
00:13:39Uh, I mean, I disagree.
00:13:41I disagree with scallop and Kayla Martin thing after watching the replay, but the heat do
00:13:45ride the line.
00:13:46Uh, Andrew Claudio, by the way, I found his tweet finally giving up trying to defend the
00:13:50indefensible, which is that bam out of bio is a dirty player.
00:13:53It's correct.
00:13:54Call.
00:13:55Like it's just a bro.
00:13:56Trust me.
00:13:57We tried looking for gainful employment, but keep getting stuck on Bama legal screens.
00:14:00It's hard out there.
00:14:02He did.
00:14:03I do a back and forth with a heat player.
00:14:04I'm like, or a heat.
00:14:05Um, excuse me.
00:14:06Twitter person.
00:14:07I'm trying to find it.
00:14:08Uh, let's see.
00:14:09Can't make this up.
00:14:10Oh, oh, okay.
00:14:11I found the root of it.
00:14:12Sorry.
00:14:13I just know that he has been on this train for a while and I wanted to find it and take
00:14:16a look.
00:14:17Um, this was Bama to bio, uh, stepping into Brunson.
00:14:22Hmm.
00:14:23Do you think this was intentional?
00:14:25Just no.
00:14:26Uh, I don't really think so.
00:14:29His back's turned and he makes a step towards the ball.
00:14:33He can see he's looking though.
00:14:35All right.
00:14:36So this is what I'm going to say about this one trip, by the way, audio listeners, fans
00:14:43are massive pain in the ass crybabies, but if there is enough chatter about this going
00:14:49around where it's like BAM might like to try and hurt people and then it's happening for
00:14:56a significant period of time in several different instances, it's not nothing.
00:15:02Yeah.
00:15:03Um, so he goes totally normal winning play and he tags a heat person who I assume he's
00:15:08had beef with in the past and the heat person says, if you want to keep embarrassing yourself,
00:15:12fine by me.
00:15:14Some weird BAM out of my feet.
00:15:18It's just weird stuff like that.
00:15:20Andrew said, ah, yes, because consistently defending a dirty player isn't embarrassing.
00:15:24Got it.
00:15:25Find a single player in the league who'd call BAM dirty, uh, et cetera, et cetera.
00:15:29Trust me.
00:15:30We've tried looking for employment, but keep getting stuck in BAM illegal screens.
00:15:34It's just a lot of back and forth, um, between shit, but I will say whether or not payment
00:15:39is a dirty player, I don't think is like, I, like you can argue, I don't think he's
00:15:43necessarily either trying to hurt, hurt people.
00:15:46He sets a lot of fucking illegal screens.
00:15:47A lot.
00:15:48All of his screens are illegal.
00:15:49Every single payment of my screen is illegal.
00:15:51That's just a fact.
00:15:52I don't, but I do think there's a difference between dirty and like physical.
00:15:58Like I don't think BAM at a bio is out there trying to actively like hurt other players.
00:16:02I don't think there are many players in league history who actively do that.
00:16:05Right.
00:16:06I just, I just don't think sure.
00:16:07Yeah.
00:16:08That's why I said not by the way.
00:16:09That's why I said not many.
00:16:11Um, I don't think the heat have any players who actively try to hurt people.
00:16:14I just don't think that's fair.
00:16:15No, I don't think like consistently, like maybe in moments, but I don't think like,
00:16:19I just don't think people, uh, players do that.
00:16:22He rides the line of physicality though.
00:16:24Like the, the, the illegal screens are a lot.
00:16:27We'll say a lot.
00:16:28Good work.
00:16:29We got 60 minutes out of this that we did.
00:16:30All right.
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00:17:43Speaking of the heat champs of the athletic, yes, Jimmy Butler ain't coming back.
00:17:48You put this on the sheet.
00:17:49I saw it too, but I'll let you head into this.
00:17:52Shams did one of his breaking news Twitter posts where he sends out important information
00:17:57but doesn't actually write it up.
00:17:59So he put out a clip of him talking on fan dual TV and this is what he had to say.
00:18:04It's crazy to me that Jimmy Butler played three quarters with what I'm hearing now was
00:18:08a severe MCL spring.
00:18:11He is not going to be back in this series.
00:18:14So people like Jack who are shivering cowards and we're convinced that he was going to show
00:18:22up with some black magic have nothing to worry about.
00:18:27Your piece shit, um, listen, I still give it like a 5% chance that he comes back.
00:18:34I'm still not ruling it out.
00:18:35I still refuse.
00:18:36And that's not indicative of my belief of the Celtics in the series.
00:18:39It's not indicative of, you know, this black magic.
00:18:41I was more confident than Sam going into the series.
00:18:43So this is a bunch of horseshit.
00:18:44Um, but I just think it's Jimmy Butler.
00:18:47Like he, he loves to play.
00:18:48He loves to play through shit.
00:18:49And I don't know.
00:18:50Also, for his work, just doubling back on the heat dirty thing.
00:18:52Um, we did have a commenters today.
00:18:54We will play dirty all spirit and continue to try to injure your key players.
00:18:58Almost got it done in game one.
00:18:59Go heat.
00:19:00There you go.
00:19:01Uh, if, if I was the heat slash fan of the heat, I would lean into it too.
00:19:07I'd be like, watch out.
00:19:09You better sit Jason Tatum.
00:19:12He's leaving on a stretcher.
00:19:13Watch out.
00:19:14He can't do that.
00:19:15Um, but yeah, Jimmy doesn't sound like Jimmy's coming back, which I mean, you could so blatantly
00:19:20see how much the heat missed Jimmy in game one.
00:19:23Cause they had no offensive creation and it was a huge credit to the Celtics defense,
00:19:29but not having Jimmy was, was a huge blow because the only real offensive creator on
00:19:33that team outside of Jimmy is Tyler hero.
00:19:35And they shut that shit down.
00:19:37Not having Jimmy Butler and Terry was here in the series, just completely stalls the
00:19:41heat's offense.
00:19:42Um, I still think the Celtics would be fine if those guys were available, but like with
00:19:46them not available, the Celtics are just able to play a style of defense that prevents Tyler
00:19:50hero from creating and just like the, he'd have to run through bam at a bio contested
00:19:54middies and post-ups and Jaime Hawkins driving into traffic and trying to make something
00:19:58happen.
00:19:59Like that's just not going to win you many games.
00:20:01So credit to the Celtics for the defense, but they, they really miss Jimmy and they're
00:20:05not getting them back.
00:20:07I know we talked about this on the recap, everything Miami got was difficult and not
00:20:12only was it difficult, the very limited amount of creation that players like Jaime Hawkins
00:20:17and bam are able to do is all in the mid range.
00:20:21I'm, I am the biggest advocate of the mid range.
00:20:24Nobody was more exciting, excited watching Tatum drill mid range jumpers from the half
00:20:28circle yesterday.
00:20:31But if Miami's offense is only going to come from that area, you live with it.
00:20:36You're absolutely fine with it.
00:20:38Phoenix is elite at playing that sort of offense and they still lose games because they're
00:20:43just not doing well in math.
00:20:46They're just not.
00:20:47So if Miami is going to take difficult, bad math shots, you absolutely live with it.
00:20:52And I wasn't really convinced Jimmy was going to play, but yeah, he's not playing shout
00:20:58out shams for giving us the news, but making us work for it.
00:21:02Yeah.
00:21:03He'll always make you work for it.
00:21:05All right.
00:21:06Next thing, Paul Pierce called Jason Tatum, the best American born player in the league.
00:21:11We can watch the clip.
00:21:12We can react to it, et cetera, et cetera.
00:21:14But this was on a KG certified, I believe.
00:21:16Oh yes.
00:21:18And this is, this is what he had to say about Tatum.
00:21:19I love the, the above knee shorts from truth.
00:21:24Can't wait.
00:21:25You're muted.
00:21:27I agree.
00:21:28Yeah.
00:21:29I believe he will be the face of the league.
00:21:38Best American born player today.
00:21:40Today, today.
00:21:41Yeah.
00:21:42I think he's the best American right now.
00:21:43I think he's right.
00:21:44Hit the critics off his back.
00:21:45So I'm going with him.
00:21:50I'm surprised KG's even like surprised at this.
00:21:52I think this is pretty obvious.
00:21:54I think Ant has a case.
00:21:55I don't think he's there yet, but I think it's it's it's coming
00:21:58like I think it's gonna it could happen like hand is that guy but outside of that like
00:22:02Maybe like he's still saying like brawn KD stuff like that's that's where his head that like those three years still up there
00:22:08Like I I could get there from that perspective
00:22:12I'm gonna pull it up while you talk this comment was insane
00:22:15I just wanted to show this to like people were hating in the comments and somebody pulled up this
00:22:20picture
00:22:21Yeah, I'm so sure lol and it's Tatum from the commercial now playoff chase is not a thing brother
00:22:26That was the whole fucking commercial. Like what is it? Are you stupid?
00:22:30You're a fucking idiot
00:22:32Every player in the league say that line like what is wrong with you?
00:22:35So but the ringer only has Kawhi above Tatum and and bead too
00:22:40If you want to count people playing on Team USA
00:22:42But Kawhi is the only one Tatum is 7 Kawhi 6 and bead 5 Shea Canada for
00:22:48Giannis Greece Luca
00:22:50Slovenia and yokage. I don't think Kawhi is better than Tatum. I
00:22:56Would probably agree, but that's just like a popular site that ranks and isn't outrageous. I know no rankings
00:23:02I just I think that's that's whack
00:23:06Yeah, I'm looking through this now they've anted 14 Jimmy at 15 the Brunson up there at 13
00:23:12What is the next Celtic on this list? What the hell?
00:23:15Jalen at 25
00:23:17It's not that crazy
00:23:19He's a bonus BAM and Darren Fox and Paul George above him. Okay? Yeah
00:23:29Yeah, anyways
00:23:34No, it's close right I don't think so, but I
00:23:39Get it, but no, he's not. I was laughing so hard tweeting that and the one guy actually got mad at me
00:23:44He was like don't tweet this blah blah. I'm like, well, I kind of have to feel it might be true
00:23:49But also it is a shit post
00:23:52Celtics have one two, three, four five
00:23:57five players in the top 100
00:24:01And for Marcus smart there he was 87 to their
00:24:05Little description is the beating heart of the Boston Celtics is now the wise veteran or the Christmas
00:24:11Why is that the intro for Marcus
00:24:14Yeah, Paul Pierce all in on Tatum agree that they have to win a title
00:24:18I think it's it's gonna be Tatum and ant for a while now ant is that motherfucker. He is
00:24:23He is nasty
00:24:25So respect to that, but right now like I think it is not a hot take at all to say Tatum is the best
00:24:30American board player
00:24:32Me neither. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's that's why I was kind of like why is kg confused?
00:24:36He just like huh? Like yeah, that's right there
00:24:38Well, well, I guess you're right
00:24:40Like I guess when you first hear that without like having discussed it before because I know we've had to kick it around on the
00:24:45show before it's like
00:24:48Well, I think part of it is like when you think of best American born player you think like oh
00:24:52That's like a top two three player in the league, but it's not really because there's like seven different
00:24:56International guys who are up there
00:24:58It reminds me of that meme that cam tweeted out during the game yesterday where it was
00:25:03Joe, Missoula and then Joe Missoula progressively getting intrigued and then smiling
00:25:08Do you know the context of that it's the Taylor sitting. Yeah. Yeah
00:25:13Very funny
00:25:14All right. Let's jump on over to the email here. Hold on see what y'all have to say in the email. We appreciate
00:25:21The lots of emails that we did get for this. Thank you. Let's take a look. Yeah. Thank you very much
00:25:27Excuse me. Let's take a look
00:25:28All right
00:25:28First one from Philip as it should be hey fellas Joe is the warrior intellectual coach Boston needs we were truly lucky
00:25:34This is from a couple days ago when you guys are wondering how some fans can still hate Joe a light bulb went off in
00:25:39My head. I'm glad Joe gets hate if you ever deep dive into something for a long enough time
00:25:43You will know the most popular things are rarely the best. This is true in music food film business podcast. Shout out HBTC. Thank you
00:25:50Those that break the mold upset those who see the world in molds most of whom are fans Joe sees the game differently
00:25:57He challenges conventions Joe himself is different. Of course, some people are going to hate him
00:26:01That's exactly as it should be thoughts all the best. So yeah, I guess when you put it that way like I get it
00:26:06It makes sense. So yeah, I also think Joe probably loves that people hate him
00:26:11Yes, probably going gets up in the mornings like fuck everybody agree. I'm gonna go do some jiu-jitsu
00:26:19Watch some film. Mm-hmm and then play a bunch of arena sounds at the practice facility
00:26:25Let's get out Joe. Shout out Joe. What a beast the man email
00:26:30We got
00:26:32D. Dr. Gordillo, is that he's a heat fan here nice streaming stream casting fellows
00:26:37Miami is obviously unlikely to win the upcoming series our fan base position may be turning towards the obvious one
00:26:42No pressure on us all pressure on you before game true
00:26:44On that no pressure angle if we can steal one of the first two games and cause Boston Sports Media to self
00:26:50Emulate implode for 48 hours. It'd be awesome. Go Boston. Our spiky delusion is that we've arrived
00:26:56We've been put on this good earth to boil and twist your intestines for five six games
00:27:00Before you move on to round two
00:27:02however
00:27:02to clarify the limited extent of my spite I'll be rooting for any East team in the finals might as well be the
00:27:08Celtics as no other East team makes sense against the Western powers
00:27:11No bones about it way more tired of the West than Boston or New York for that matter
00:27:16Mg. Shout out mg. Thanks. Thanks for finding us in so this is funny
00:27:21Because the third sentence here the no pressure angle and if they can steal one of the first two games I
00:27:29Felt that immediately. I was like, I think I even mentioned in my Celtics blog write-up of the game yesterday
00:27:35I was like
00:27:35Yeah
00:27:36like shout to these guys for winning the game and not letting media be like what if yes what if watch out for the heat
00:27:42Watch out for the heat. They're gonna beat Celtics
00:27:44So shout to the Celtics for going on a 14-nothing run and then winning wire to wire and being up double digits the entire second
00:27:50Thank you. Mm-hmm. Agree left
00:27:52Shout to Boston. Thanks for the email. We preach. Yes
00:27:56Next ready to continue to email unless it's me
00:27:59Even if it's me, we don't care after a lot. I'm probably get mad
00:28:03Let's pop in to win at home afternoon guys. How's your heart rate Sam?
00:28:06Lots of people try to make lots of hot takes out of the Miami fourth quarter surge
00:28:09We're here if the things remember locked in Celtics versus heat looks like the C's wiping out everyone
00:28:14They put they ever put on a 40-point hurting this year
00:28:17Whoever's on the floor for the Celtics has to play locked in basketball
00:28:20The only thing that beats this team is when the Celtics half-ass it first minute of the game last minute of the game doesn't matter
00:28:25Joe's got more teaching he can do so he'll be happy. This is true
00:28:28He said that after the game finally all of the Celtics PTSD laden
00:28:31Fandom can take a deep breath and remember that this was a 20-point win not a loss
00:28:34Be well and let's win this thing
00:28:37RJ agree. No, it's funny is RJ sent this before talking C's
00:28:41Yes, and then everyone got mad at the Celtics in talking C's which is insane to me
00:28:45Yeah, the the comments were unbelievably negative
00:28:49Insane, it's I don't get it and I love to be negative and it makes for good content
00:28:54But yesterday was just not the day that won by 20 that was wire to wire
00:28:58They were up 34 points and they completely controlled the game
00:29:01Everything was hard for Miami like anything that you would want to nitpick
00:29:04It's very tough like guy was saying Tatum was 1 of 8 from 3 sure
00:29:08Like I mean, that's my favorite drum to bang is the he probably shoots too many threes and doesn't make enough of them train
00:29:14But like even
00:29:16the the collapse and stuff like I don't know like Miami Sean believably well and
00:29:23They were open and they had open cuts, but they shot like 13 of 14 to get within 14 points. Yeah
00:29:30It is
00:29:32It doesn't worry me at all next email from Michael Hilly F the heat. They are dirty diapers
00:29:38What's poppin guys gonna try to email more regularly. I don't always get to make the live podcast anymore
00:29:42My work schedule changing. Anyways, I wanted to ask some fun niche questions about game one
00:29:46Shout out Michael Hilly. Thank you very much
00:29:48Obviously the Celtics are the best three-point shooting team in the league, but shooting that well isn't sustainable
00:29:52Do you think the Celtics will look at other ways to score most likely more post-ups?
00:29:56But you think they will live and die by the three
00:29:58I think the Celtics have not been living and dying by the three this year
00:30:02I think in the games where they haven't shot
00:30:03Well, they have gone to post ups and you say it's not sustainable, but they shot 40% from three on the season
00:30:09So I think it is more sustainable than people want to believe
00:30:13This team as Jack said feels significantly less live by the three die by the three than last year
00:30:19They do shoot the most threes in the league, but they also shoot the highest percentage in the league
00:30:23so I'm absolutely okay with them shooting threes and a lot of the threes that they get see the
00:30:28Late first early second quarter yesterday are good looks
00:30:32They rushed a lot of shots against the zone when Miami first rolled it out
00:30:36But they were still open and they were still
00:30:40Coming from shooters that you want shooting the ball
00:30:43Second quarter Sam Hauser is just open every time somehow. So if those are the shots you're getting take a billion
00:30:50Agree
00:30:52Couldn't agree more next question. Also, the annoying random players are showing their colors and surprising
00:30:56It isn't Hawkeye's he was getting cooked
00:30:58Do you think Delon Wright continues to be the annoying Celtics killer or do you think they will use Jovich or Hawkins said?
00:31:03I know your take Sam of don't let him get hot
00:31:06How are we calling him a Celtics killer when he nailed five threes to cut the lead to 14 like come on like oh
00:31:12I don't think
00:31:14He may be the watch out for the next heat culture inbred that is gonna let you up but aside from that I
00:31:22Don't I don't love that
00:31:24He made five of five and probably feels pretty good about himself going into game two and will be more likely to fire and hit
00:31:31but besides that
00:31:33Sure, it's still on right it's not like Tyler hero caught fire either
00:31:37I think that would be a little bit more alarming if I wanted to work these four threes going on in a row
00:31:43Yeah, and for what it's worth he played in 47 games this year some with the heat some not he made more than one three
00:31:49in a game five times like I'm not just let him do it. I'm not worried. I
00:31:55Don't know. That's fine. I love well
00:31:58I'm in the boat with you right now because they just killed them in game one, but I love the not worried
00:32:03Especially after being like what if they lose all week?
00:32:06Like I almost threw my entire betting account on to heat series money line before the series just to be okay
00:32:11I'll win significant amount of money
00:32:14Next question. We saw a tight but obvious rotation game one, but with the bench guys only being Horford Pritchard Hauser
00:32:19Do you think we'd go any deeper in the bench the next game or is there only in case of emergency?
00:32:24My bet is on the ladder. I think if Luke's healthy again, maybe you see some spot minutes
00:32:29But I think what you saw in game one is what you're gonna get for most of the playoffs
00:32:32Like I think it's going to get the eight-man rotation. So next game. Yes
00:32:36Game three. Yes game four. I hope they spread it out if they're up 3-0
00:32:42this is a sure semi serious question where
00:32:47Do you rest guys in game four
00:32:50Coming on guys. This is coming from you. This is crazy
00:32:54And this is the playoffs they win. I feel amazing. They lose
00:32:57I think the world's ending but like that's what I'm saying taking everything we saw in game one
00:33:02Celtics destroy them when the game was close
00:33:05They were up so much that it didn't even matter when Miami made a push and then once the game was out of hand
00:33:11But still kind of close
00:33:13Enough to have the starters in the starters were having their health at risk. So do you like sip porzingis for game four? I
00:33:22Don't know I don't think so. We're very far ahead of ourselves. Yeah, I don't think I don't think they'll sit anybody
00:33:28But that's just my opinion. I think I think it's all right
00:33:31We'll see them next one. I hate the Heat fans so much
00:33:34They talk so much trash all season and use excuses when they lose
00:33:37Do you think the Heat have moved up a tier possibly the Celtics second biggest rival next to the Lakers or do they have some?
00:33:43Ground to catch and if so, what team is that?
00:33:46Historically, the Lakers are obviously the biggest rival put right now actively in the NBA
00:33:50Like just in the scope of the last few seasons the heat of the biggest rival the Celtics have
00:33:54Unquestioned the most recent Celtics blog Celtics hater power rankings index
00:34:00Lakers one heat two Sixers three bucks for Knicks five Mavericks six Warriors seven
00:34:06So yes, yeah heat Celtics is
00:34:10The biggest rivalry in the NBA over the last decade and I don't think that is up for debate
00:34:15No, they play each other a billion times the playoffs exactly like that that it just isn't obviously the hands across multiple generations
00:34:23yeah, and the historical like
00:34:26Significance of Celtics Lakers will always have almost always have that above Celtics heat but like the last 20 years
00:34:32It's Celtics heat and then the next is like it's just not close
00:34:36Like it's just yeah, it's obviously huge referee 100% and that's respect to the Heat
00:34:41They've been good fucking team for the last two decades
00:34:44Exactly the hero juicy is out
00:34:47No, I didn't stolen valor
00:34:49Last one also if you're if you're watching this, why haven't you liked the pod yet?
00:34:52There's usually like 30 people watching only 10 like step it up
00:34:55These guys are decorated podcast hosts long live HPTC a long live Michael Petras aka the goat. Thanks Michael. Thanks, Michael
00:35:01We appreciate you. Are you like Mike Michael Malone that wants to be called Michael?
00:35:05Yeah, you also okay with Mike let us know also, how are you not spelling Michael Petras is in the name, right?
00:35:13What are you doing? Come on, man. I like how grammar leaves
00:35:17I like how Grammarly is like hey just in case you didn't know dumbass. This is what this word his
00:35:25Given name
00:35:27My god from my this one for last say this one. Okay, we'll leave this and we'll bleed into the next thing RJ
00:35:33What's poppin? Where's Luke even guys dumb question time?
00:35:35I just got to I got a set of the 23 24 Celtics possible cards on eBay
00:35:40Seller and it was a good collection it even included midseason trades like Springer and Tillman
00:35:43But oddly no Luke and apparently Luke doesn't seem to be in many previous card sets like at all
00:35:48Does anyone know this why this is like I said dumb question P well RJ who would totally get a Celtic Celtics blog trading cards
00:35:54Jesus, um, that's actually a really good question. This is not a dumb question
00:35:58Cuz I what if there's like beef with him and like no prism or tops whoever's making the cards that you're buying
00:36:05So he's in the video game. So it's not something weird like that
00:36:08Yeah, I have no decent okay, so what 75 76 no idea
00:36:16He does have a good rating
00:36:19Card, I don't see any
00:36:22Luke Cornett basketball cards
00:36:24since his
00:36:26Rookie, you need to ask him about this keep it in your back pocket right in the little manifesto book
00:36:32I'm not gonna ask him during the playoffs. Well, what if like you run into him or something?
00:36:37I'll keep it in the back of the mind, but I have no idea. Yeah, that's very weird
00:36:44Celtics team trading card pack. This is
00:36:50What a weird thing to be like fuck you guys I'm not you can't have me
00:36:55You have no idea. I
00:36:57Have no idea. Anyways last email and we'll jump back to Michaels. What's poppin the 88 lineup morning guys spirited Monday?
00:37:04Talkin C's
00:37:06So some quick takes from the heat down beat down on Sunday
00:37:10The focus locked and solid displayed like the best team in the league against Nate seed playing consistently good basketball is boring for JT
00:37:16KP's postgame quotes may ever sound like a playoff veteran
00:37:18I'll seem to be trying to wake people up in the fourth quarter all in all solid wind leaving me with one suggestion for improved
00:37:23Performance since everyone seems to accept it as human nature that if you were up a lot you will coast
00:37:27I suggest the C's put together an 88 lineup
00:37:30No, not Americans with Disabilities Act the anti dicking around squad guys
00:37:35You take the floor to either maintain or reestablish the focus needed to keep the game on an even keel
00:37:39So one or two three-pointers doesn't turn into giving up a Dean Wade or Delon Wright style spurt. Don't put them in the same
00:37:47category
00:37:48Well, I did Dean wait a little bit yesterday not significantly, but I was like, but it wasn't close
00:37:55That's the thing it was it was far enough way where I was like, yeah, like I don't know if I should worry yet
00:38:00But I was like I thought about that with you
00:38:03Who was on who was on the 88 squad?
00:38:06I imagine T white Horford and KP would be helpful Pritchard has a real song idea vibe
00:38:09But you get the idea
00:38:10So what are your thoughts be well and let's win this thing
00:38:13See, but you need a balance of good enough to keep the lead and plays hard enough
00:38:17Well that that's where like Derek white comes in and poor Zingas
00:38:21I think if you put like I mean Derek whites like Richard has to be a small forward Pritchard has to be a good piece
00:38:29Springers are so useless. No
00:38:31Respectfully, he's just he's not a very good offensive player. But like I mean we defense
00:38:36I last like stretch of the season. They were throwing him out there at the end of quarters just so they would get stops
00:38:41Fine, maybe like Pritchard Springer, but if you have those two, then you can't have D white. You can't have three you can't have 36
00:38:49Mmm, Derek whites what six four six five he could play like a
00:38:53So skinny, he can't play small forward. I think it would have to be
00:38:58Pritchard Springer, I think I think you should just lean into the bench. I think you should Pritchard Springer Howser Brissett
00:39:05She Tillman. Yeah, I think you just lean in and play those guys
00:39:10Maybe there's fee out there, but then you run the risk of the heat just to having significantly more talent on the floor
00:39:15I don't know. I think it's it's not convinced that Pritchard's not the best guy on the heat. You're an idiot next
00:39:20All right. Let's go to the NBA section and we can lead. No Michael pull up his email
00:39:25So if you let me finish my sentence, I was gonna say let's go to the NBA section and we can lead in with Michael's
00:39:29Email, so well, you sound like you're about to close the I literally just said and we can lead in
00:39:36Let's go NBA section lead in with what Michael had to say I'll switch the brand to the NBA
00:39:43Michael
00:39:45Said other playoff game strange takes
00:39:47Let's pop and just finish watching the Thunder Pelicans game aside from the fact that there wasn't many close games still happy
00:39:52We are in playoff mode. Just want to share some of my takes I got from the games this weekend
00:39:56Let's go one by one. We'll give you want to give ours in this too
00:40:00Let's give our one hot take from every game including Michaels
00:40:05Do you want to do Michaels first than ours or you want to give ours first?
00:40:07Let's do ours and then we'll read his and we'll give like a little bit of a like a rundown of what happened
00:40:12Okay, you didn't get to see it. So Cavs magic
00:40:15first game of the weekend
00:40:17Maybe the most who cares except for all the Celtics fans who have to play this to the winner in the second round
00:40:22But most who cares series of the whole bunch
00:40:26No commentary for the first minute which was fun because it was just all great noise. Yeah, like they had broadcast issues
00:40:34so
00:40:35this game was one that was
00:40:37mostly all Cavs Orlando couldn't buy a basket they look pathetic and
00:40:42it was low scoring yet Cleveland seemed to dominate and
00:40:46Yeah, I I was disappointed what I saw from Orlando. I thought they'd be a little bit better
00:40:52Apparently all the point guards went of 17 combined. Oh
00:40:56My god, hmm. Hey, they did that's insane. I know it was Gary Harris Cole Anthony Markov holds, but yes, okay
00:41:06Yeah, what's the hot take from this one for you hot take from this one is
00:41:11Maybe I wasn't very wrong with the Cavs. They're just gonna come out strong
00:41:15But I still feel like if the Cavs get punched in the face
00:41:18I don't know if they're gonna get punched back or they don't never really put together any impressive stretch in this game
00:41:23God, they made it close in the fourth. It was what eight points
00:41:29Sorry the third they got it to within four in the third, okay
00:41:32All right, because in the fourth I turned it back on I think we were I was playing an MLB game and I I looked over
00:41:40And it was eight and then I went and brushed my teeth and it was all of a sudden 14 again
00:41:45yeah, my um, my biggest thing from this game is I think I underrated the importance of having
00:41:52for lack of better term like an
00:41:54electric score like Donovan Mitchell was just the best player or because he is the only one who could like score the ball like
00:41:59Having a guy like like Tatum or Brown or whoever on the Celtics, right?
00:42:02Having a guy like Jimmy who's out for the heat having a guy like KD or Anthony Edwards
00:42:06Like you need that and as good as Paolo is right now. I don't think he's at that level yet
00:42:10In terms of consistent like efficient scoring and Donovan Mitchell is and so I think that was an underrated thing
00:42:15And I don't know. I think it'll still be a series like I don't think the Cavs are just gonna sweep them
00:42:20But I do think that is much more significant than I thought and might make me lean more towards Cleveland
00:42:25How does take for me offense thing was different. Are we sure Franz is any good?
00:42:30He was awful he missed I'm yes one bad game is an indicative of good or bad lights are too bright. Yeah
00:42:37Sam he shot 7 of 15. Oh, he missed a lot when the game was like within reach
00:42:45Here's like one of the most efficient scorers on the team seems like this guy what he shooting three
00:42:50Two of six not great. But like it's still like better than almost all of this
00:42:54I just remember him being bad. Like I watched and I didn't think it was very good. Hmm
00:42:59All right
00:43:00Michael said magic need more scoring they couldn't buy a bucket if they're giving the way
00:43:03Friends needs to work with drew Hanlon's biggest broken shot. So I guess he's there and then Cavs are also washed
00:43:08I think both these meetings are pretty bad. Yeah, next one. I was like another takeaway from this is like
00:43:13So he's good to play this this series. Yeah, you got to get through Miami
00:43:19next one also
00:43:21Flights to Cleveland would be very nice
00:43:28All right next one wolves on Sam
00:43:31So in this game it was close through like the first I would say half ish maybe first quarter and a half and then the
00:43:38wolves just
00:43:40completely stifled
00:43:42Everything Phoenix was trying to do great defense Anthony Edwards was scoring and everything Rudy Gobert actually looked useful in the playoffs
00:43:49which is
00:43:50Yeah, that usually happens. And so by the second half like fourth quarter, they were killing them
00:43:55So wolves look really good in this series. A lot of people fix Phoenix in this one
00:43:59I know we didn't but like I don't know. What was your biggest hot take from this game? Uh
00:44:05Good luck if you're a Phoenix
00:44:07Phoenixes. Yeah, I think I just don't think they have the depth
00:44:11kind of sucks when you don't have any players or
00:44:14Calculators, so it's tough to wait
00:44:18Yeah, my biggest
00:44:20takeaway or hot take is
00:44:22Anthony Edwards a motherfucker
00:44:24So good like I keep saying it like he's probably a top 10 player in the league right now like he's he's
00:44:31Fucking nasty like he is far better and far
00:44:35More impressive in the playoffs than I anticipated so credit to him
00:44:38he's it goes back to the Donovan Mitchell thing I said like you need a guy like that and he's that motherfucking guy like
00:44:43he's
00:44:44He's good. It's true. It helps Minnesota be better in a situation like this because now you don't have to rely on cat
00:44:51Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes and cat was fine in this game, too
00:44:55He just didn't have to do much because it was correct
00:44:57And and also getting 18 off the bench from Nikkiel Alexander Walker like heaven hands. I'd be mad as fuck, dude
00:45:05Also, it's got that at the garden this year when they played here. He made a big shot
00:45:09But he had a big fourth quarter when the Suns are grabbing
00:45:13or excuse me, the Timberwolves are grabbing 13 offensive rebounds and six from Rudy like
00:45:18You can't do shit you're just cooked you're just done
00:45:23But yeah, Rudy actually looked really really really good in this game
00:45:28next also Michael said
00:45:31Emails I close the email. I took it off. I didn't mean to close the the tab though
00:45:35I just meant to take it off the screen
00:45:37Michael on wolf Sun said Suns might be the most overrated super team in NBA history besides the Nets with KG
00:45:43Nas read is better than cat. Anthony Edwards might be the most fun player to watch the NBA Nas read might be
00:45:53Not really, but it was like one of them the cat figures that actually work dude, he's like a cult hero
00:45:59They they had a Nas read towel day. He was at WrestleMania. They had a towel
00:46:03I know it's insane like they started chanting. They were like it during the game. There was chance. It was Nas read
00:46:09It's like what the fuck it's insane good for them next one fun
00:46:14Nick Sixer Sam my legacy on the line. This is a huge game
00:46:19So I'm gonna do a little pre rat list with this. You'll get a little rat list in the middle episode
00:46:25Caitlin and I went out to dinner and we go to this
00:46:29Jamaican restaurant and they have the game
00:46:33That was a lifesaver because it took like two hours to get our fucking food
00:46:39So I had plenty of time to watch this game
00:46:41We got there it like the beginning of the second quarter and we left as it was ending
00:46:48It's how long that is it's very long but anyways
00:46:57I'm not convinced that Knicks fans should be feeling great about that
00:47:02Like
00:47:04You got a miracle close from Josh Hart who caught fire scorched earth
00:47:10became prime
00:47:12Take your pick legendary player at the end of the game
00:47:16Joan bead had everybody think that he died after he probably pulled off the sickest dunk in playoff history
00:47:23It was cool straight out of 2k threw up the backboard and caught OG on and OB for a poster
00:47:29But then immediately fell to the ground and everyone was like he just he needs to have his leg amputated imagine scal on that call
00:47:36It's almost like he's not healthy. It's almost like someone said he's not healthy
00:47:39All the reports after the game was that he feels good
00:47:43Which is like what else are they gonna report?
00:47:45But the speculation and I know you saw this was that he's wearing a brace and cut his knee
00:47:52Hmm, and that is why he had to leave the floor. He felt so good that he shot 2 of 11 in the second half
00:47:58Yeah, it's great
00:48:00made
00:48:01Yeah felt so good that he shot like despite all that. They still should have won. They kind of blew this one
00:48:08Well, I mean, that's what the Sixers do you you could say that from both sides though
00:48:13Like I mean
00:48:14I told you and bead would get gas in the second half one and I know he got hurt but like he did in fact
00:48:18Get gas in the second half Mitchell Robinson
00:48:21Defended him really well and as much as you can say like they should have won this one
00:48:24I don't think Jalen Brunson plays this shit for the entire series either like no, he probably doesn't
00:48:29I don't really think it was a whole lot of oh, wow. They locked him up
00:48:35No, Jalen Brunson missed a lot of those little in-lane turnaround jumpers that he usually hits
00:48:40To compensate for that Deuce McBride played like an all-nba guard and so did Josh Hart in the clutch
00:48:47but
00:48:48With game two being tonight. We're not gonna have it in this pod just because by the time it's all wrapped up and everything
00:48:53It's kind of too late to be putting in new content if it's not the Celtics
00:48:57Tyrus max he's gonna be sick, but my hot take is is he out?
00:49:03no, but
00:49:05We saw Nimi be sick in that g-league. Fine. I I still think the Knicks went in five
00:49:09I still stand on what I said. I still they might fix it. But I think this is good
00:49:14I think this is a big game
00:49:15I think this is a Lakers Nuggets and or Celtics Nets level like four or five game series where every game is close
00:49:22But the Knicks whatever game
00:49:23Hmm, I mean Philly has a bad track record with close games good in the first round
00:49:28But and bead came out hot and I get he got hurt, but like I don't like yeah
00:49:33He is hurt
00:49:35Knicks shouldn't be feeling as good as a regular team would up 1-0 because I think Philly played pretty well
00:49:42Despite him being still lost and still lost and this Knicks played like the same thing
00:49:48They still lost but they were able to dig themselves out of a massive deficit
00:49:54But I think the same things you're saying about Philly
00:49:56You can say the exact same things about New York the exact same things far from no
00:49:59They had a good close to the game like they they do and maybe it's more of what you're saying
00:50:04Where the series will be tightly contested games, but I don't think it's going to be easy for the Knicks
00:50:09I think we're on the same pitch for that, but I don't know if they finish off games is up for debate
00:50:14But I I'm just saying like everything you're saying like I don't know Knicks fans
00:50:18It's like you could say the same thing about Philly cuz Brunson also had what might be his worst game in the playoffs in game
00:50:22one hmm
00:50:24like everything we're saying about a bead like oh the
00:50:28Maxi played out of his mind the point of this is a hot take after watching one game
00:50:32Yeah, my hot take is I still think the Knicks win this in four or five minutes
00:50:35I don't believe in Philly at all. Like I just I don't everything we saw like no
00:50:40All right, next up Oh Michael had to say and bead cooked he just looks right out there. Yep, but you might be a fraud
00:50:48Uber is sexy had a hard time
00:50:50To this game and Josh Hart is the greatest rebounder of all time. Yes better than I determine
00:50:55That is one thing Josh Hart can continue to do is dominate. Well, the Knicks really hustle
00:51:00Exactly. Yes
00:51:02That's what they do, all right
00:51:04Brenton also had five offensive rebounds, which is just infuriating if you're a six or six next one Lakers nuggets
00:51:14The Lakers did everything they possibly could to win this game in the first half and it just
00:51:22It just didn't matter yeah, this is that's the hot take the hot take is broom broom time like a DM abroad great
00:51:28Goodbye, doesn't we just got a bonus email? We did. I'll read that now quick
00:51:33a fan 60 plus years from Michael Karasek fan of 60 plus years and
00:51:40It is more fun with you guys. Don't remember criticizing Burns team when they won just saying
00:51:46Shout out Michael Michael Michael those he gets it. Thanks. Thank you for saying we make it fun. We appreciate you
00:51:53Thank you very much for the email live live email show
00:51:56Um, yeah, the I don't think there's any other hot take other than the Lakers are cooked
00:52:00I think that's the Hawks the Lakers the role players in Denver. Also Michael Porter doing a great job of playing through controversy
00:52:09Didn't let it rattle him credit
00:52:13Yeah, this is you know, sorry Michael had to say I closed the email again
00:52:20Michael said
00:52:23Yeah, he's at Lakers are cooked or excuse me nuggets good Lakers are cooked
00:52:27They need to trade some of their depth for a stud getting everybody
00:52:32Next one. Are you Mavs Mavs Clippers?
00:52:34I didn't get to watch this game because I was working and doing some writing and stuff. Yeah, but um
00:52:40I'm what Lucas said after the game hot take Jason kid sucks
00:52:45hot take
00:52:46Luca gets away with fucking murder
00:52:49no, dude, because
00:52:52he was
00:52:53From what I understand I didn't get a lot to watch a ton of this atrocious in the first half
00:52:58Once the game was out of reach
00:52:59He started to put points in much like he did against the Celtics earlier this year finished with a 34-point triple-double
00:53:06Also got targeted on
00:53:08Defense with switcher double
00:53:10Was he close? No, he'd 33 13 and 6
00:53:14All right. Well, I saw triple double on Twitter. So what do I know?
00:53:18But anyways, everyone's like stat stats are great like can't blame Luca
00:53:23But he really wasn't in the game until it was over and got killed on defense yet
00:53:28Tatum at a 23 10 and 10 game and got murdered
00:53:32Everyone was like that is the worst
00:53:34Knicks fans did a photoshop. I guess bonus for Atlas since I had like six of them
00:53:38I'll just burn some of them during this segment
00:53:40Some Knicks fan went on whatever app it is that like has the stats with like fun hashtags, too
00:53:46It was like this guy gets so much praise. It was like Tatum with 23
00:53:51But instead of like the tens they blacked it and put twos for assistant rebounds
00:53:56Like you literally posted a photoshop and tried to like roast the guy. I think I
00:54:01Saw it. I thought that was from the Knicks game early in the season or is that literally?
00:54:05Oh, that was yesterday because all the things that triple-double like the hashtags were triple-double. That's insane behavior
00:54:12What I heard after the game was Luca being like, yeah, we were preparing for them with Kawhi. So we were caught off guard
00:54:17It's like yeah
00:54:19Sometimes when the team's worse than you expect it makes you lose
00:54:23It's insane
00:54:26Yeah, I don't get it. I still think the the Mavs could be okay in this series
00:54:30I think they just got to get their head out of their ass
00:54:31Sure, I still I still think it'll be like a competitive series, but that was not a good looking game
00:54:36If you're a lower seed, you're technically supposed to lose game one on the road
00:54:41Like if you really want to be like it's true is Dallas gonna be able to compete you and say yes
00:54:46I think it's impressive that the Clippers won
00:54:48I picked them to win this series. I think they're a sneaky team to come out of the West
00:54:51Like I'm very high on them
00:54:54Because they beat the piss out of the Celtics this year and had a very impressive run throughout this like a certain stage of the
00:54:58season
00:55:00so yeah, I think if they
00:55:02If anything they can take that away and be kind of confident, but I saw someone call
00:55:07I saw someone called features you watch Zewail cinder because he played
00:55:11But
00:55:14Michael said Clippers might be worth having that cool new wall arena crap. They have going on probably not but they're fun
00:55:21My career ball ain't cutting it
00:55:23Why the hell does Luke could not have a shooting around him Gafford PJ and Derrick Jones in the same lineup fire chasing kid?
00:55:29That is that is really bad when you put it that
00:55:32That is tough one
00:55:34next one Bucks Pacers
00:55:37This is gonna be the most fun
00:55:39You want a hot take yeah, this means nothing. Oh
00:55:44I don't think I I'm not moved by this because it felt so abnormal when I was like kind of looking at it happen
00:55:51Okay, so the Pacers
00:55:54All they've done this year is score the basketball
00:55:57They didn't crack a hundred. They had 24 points half right halfway through the second quarter. They looked
00:56:05unbelievably
00:56:06Shook of the moment which doesn't bode well for the rest of the series if you really want to dive into it. However
00:56:12It's very difficult to imagine them being as ass as they were in the first half yesterday
00:56:17They were o of 12 from 3 at one point Tyrese Halliburton barely shot the ball
00:56:23Dame had the most unbelievable half I've ever seen 35 points couldn't miss and then didn't score for the rest of the game
00:56:30Once the game was already over
00:56:33He kind of took his foot off the gas and didn't play and I mean it was over at the half
00:56:37Who was this Halliburton?
00:56:39Dame
00:56:40Dame with the 35 then didn't do anything in the second half once the game was already. Oh, yeah
00:56:44I mean this looks to me. I admittedly again didn't get a chance to watch this game because it didn't work, but
00:56:50It looks like the Pacers style of play just doesn't translate exactly to the playoffs
00:56:55How
00:56:58Burns gotta take more than seven shots, correct
00:57:00What are we doing?
00:57:01like we can't do that in the play I think it works in the in the regular season when you can be like
00:57:05Oh, look at me. I'm Magic Johnson. I just pass pass pass. No, you've got it fucking score the ball in the playoffs
00:57:09It's you're the star. What like me a drooling moron that typically only watches Celtics games
00:57:16But during the playoffs I step it up. Don't worry
00:57:18Mm-hmm. I can tell you that there were several abnormal things that happened yesterday
00:57:23And it's tough to imagine it being that abnormal for the entire series
00:57:28Do I think it is it gonna mean like the pace?
00:57:30They're all of a sudden gonna be this superpower of a team probably not
00:57:33But they're also not gonna just go out there and get the shit kicked out of them every game
00:57:36I don't I don't think I do. I also think it is like, you know, the playoff commercial like the haha
00:57:42There's no playoff day. There's a playoff Alberton
00:57:45There is playoff day. Like I do think that's an illegitimate thing that needs to be taken
00:57:49Out there ruins the chemistry
00:57:51He does step it up in the playoff zone. He was great in this game
00:57:54Even though he was technically the only or like he was a minus six, which was like
00:58:00in a game they won by so many but I do think there is some significance to
00:58:05Having a guy who's been there before although see I can put up 36 and 13
00:58:09The Bucs are in the same category for me as the Cavs are where are they a solid team with talent?
00:58:16Yes, do I think they're going to punch back? Maybe not?
00:58:19Okay, because the Doc Rivers wrinkle of this and how poorly they played for the entire
00:58:24Doc Rivers era
00:58:26Makes it tough to believe any adjustment he makes is gonna like change the world for them. Mm-hmm
00:58:34Michael said Pacers peaked in the planned tournament and so did Halliburton Middleton healthy and back to his old self makes him look dangerous
00:58:39Pacers no defense still even with Pascal knee Smith and Turner frontcourt that is yikes and yet Middleton did look closer to
00:58:46The version of himself that is very good. So that's probably not good
00:58:49I mean say what you are about the defense. They only gave up 109 points. Yeah, that's not a bad defensive showing
00:58:54They just couldn't score the ball. Yeah, like if they play Pacers ball, like well
00:58:58It might be numbers are way numbers are way down in the playoffs. They are that is unbelievably down
00:59:03Like how many teams even cracked a hundred three four?
00:59:07no wolves Pacers
00:59:10nuggets
00:59:11bucks a
00:59:13Lot of
00:59:16Lot of teams cracked a hundred not many cracked one ten, I think only two cracked one ten
00:59:21Is very very skewed scoring for the opening games whether it's nerves
00:59:25I know a lot of former players were like game one in game seven or like the most crazy different feeling games of the whole
00:59:32playoffs, so sure
00:59:35All right. Next one
00:59:37Last one I should say Thunder Pelicans. I watched this game decent run of this game. It was a great game
00:59:43I
00:59:45Don't know how sustainable
00:59:50Is I
00:59:52Think this was
00:59:54Thunder we're like a little like oh, it's playoffs. Let's okay
00:59:58I do also think there's something to the to note of
01:00:02You know, I found you it Junius is just out there bullying the Thunder cuz he's the biggest guy on the court
01:00:07but I I
01:00:10Don't know how sustainable the Pelicans
01:00:13this level of Pelicans competitiveness will be
01:00:17Barring his eye on return. That's my take my hot take that fat fuck needs get on the bike and get loosened up
01:00:25It would make it a great series. Yes there would be an awesome series if he could get the official hot take though
01:00:32non-sarcastic one is
01:00:34Pelicans kind of missed their chance in OKC. OKC had a really really good home crowd yesterday
01:00:39These fans have been waiting to watch their team in the playoffs for quite some time
01:00:42They made the bubble playoffs, but they haven't had in arena playoffs since rust left
01:00:47so
01:00:49They were juiced the players were probably a bit nervous having not been there for the majority of them
01:00:55Like Shay's played the door is played. But besides that a lot of those guys do not have a ton of playoff experience
01:01:01Pelicans could have went in there and stole game one
01:01:02That's usually what happens with lower teams
01:01:04like just thinking back to the last decade like
01:01:08Orlando was good for a win over Toronto like when they had Lowry into Rosen in the first game of the playoffs like stuff like
01:01:14that happens
01:01:16For what it's worth
01:01:19April 17th
01:01:20Shams tweeted reevaluation for Zion in two weeks
01:01:23So that's not he's coming back in two weeks
01:01:26But there is a chance by the end of the series that you could get him if the pelicans he ain't coming back no
01:01:32Michael's takes both teams are green and it was great best game of the weekend
01:01:36I don't expect any of these teams to go far unless they can grow up quickly
01:01:38Shay is clutch as a motherfucker. Very true. And then he says sorry
01:01:42No, this is a long fun one. Wish you both. Well, Michael Petras is go again Michael spell Petras his name, right?
01:01:47There's a C. Come on
01:01:49Biggest fan got spells name, right? All right, let's jump into the athletics player poll
01:01:55We got a long podcast for y'all as there's a lot of NBA stuff to talk about but it was fun
01:01:59So let's take a look at the Atlantic
01:02:01They did their yearly NBA player poll where they asked a bunch of NBA players
01:02:06Questions about stuff around the league and we're gonna go over it. See what the people had to say, okay
01:02:12Here's the poll. You got Rudy Wimby
01:02:14And Adam silver on the cover fuck Adam. So
01:02:18First question
01:02:20Who is the MVP?
01:02:22Nicole yolk is 42% of the vote Shane second at 37 Luka there at 10 Tatum Giannis Donovan Mitchell also all getting you know
01:02:29Who's not there?
01:02:31Hmm Jalen Brunson
01:02:34Yeah, it's almost 0.7 percent of the vote. Yeah, like
01:02:39Same as Halliburton
01:02:41He's just he's not all be first team. He's just not sorry Knicks fans
01:02:45I don't give a fucking fuck who makes any of the teams but to know Knicks fans care a lot about that and for it
01:02:50To go wrong for them would be nice
01:02:52Yeah, it's I am surprised to see him this high on the ranking though. Who?
01:02:58Tatum
01:02:59I'm not he's fourth like I think that's fair. I'm also a little bit surprised of how close it is between yo kitchen Shay
01:03:08um, I
01:03:09Think it's cuz she got the one seed and as stupid as it was cuz it was so close like well
01:03:13They were competing against each other. Yeah, exactly. So I think it's that
01:03:18Alright next one. Oh, we have some yoga stuff on each of the voters. I mean, we don't have to read all the shit
01:03:26Who is the best defender one one quick thing on that it is mad funny that the
01:03:33Description of why they voted for yo kitch are very very to the point in short and everyone has to like
01:03:38Really explain why they voted for Shay in like paragraph form literally someone's like he's unstoppable like good
01:03:45Good. Yes
01:03:47Who is the best offender?
01:03:49Women Yama wins 15% of the votes your holiday and second with 13% then you got Lou Dort herb Jones
01:03:54Jade McDaniels Rudy Gobert Alex Caruso, etc, etc, etc. Jalen Brown got 1.5 percent. He was the only other Celtics to get multiple
01:04:02Votes Derek white also got a vote for this as well in terms of Celtics
01:04:06But yeah, Wenby rookie season best defender in the league. No shame losing to Wenby
01:04:13No, not at all. Not at all. The fact that was this close is crazy and that's not gonna be very close for very long
01:04:19Women surprising person on this list
01:04:22Me are you asking are you gonna see I'm asking? Oh, um, I
01:04:27Don't know if there's anybody
01:04:29Really surprising on this list. No, cuz Jalen's not high enough for it to be surprising to me Isaac
01:04:34Kikoro maybe but he is like that is his whole thing
01:04:37This is yeah, it's being defensive. The the biggest surprise is Nick Batum down here. What what are we doing?
01:04:44Respect to Nick Batum, but what the wonder who said that?
01:04:46There should be like certain answers you give that you should have to have your name displayed. Yeah, Andrew Nemb harm it hard. It's nuts, too
01:04:54Boulder good defenders, but like whoever's collecting the votes like if you put Nick Batum
01:04:59It should be like is that your final answer? And if you click yes, you have to put your name
01:05:02I think Rudy being so low is surprising
01:05:06Fair, I think that's disrespectful. Maybe it's because he's not as versatile as somebody like Wendy
01:05:12Like Wendy is like a big shot blocking the threat, but he can move a little bit
01:05:17Yeah, I guess but like he's below drew Lou Dort Herb Jones and Jaden McDaniels
01:05:22Like that's just like you're saying Rudy go bears not the best offensive player in his own team. I
01:05:27Just I don't know
01:05:28Anyways
01:05:30McDaniels is great. That's not a knock for him
01:05:32But I just I think Rudy impacts the rim like Rudy does
01:05:36Like when we all talk about like Oh Wemby just not like people don't even want to walk in the paint with one B
01:05:40That's what Rudy go bear did for years. Like just not as as
01:05:44Not even look at the basket Wendy. Well, yeah, but that's what Rudy was doing in Utah
01:05:53All right next one
01:05:56You're building a roster from scratch who you're going to sign first
01:05:5928% said Wemby 27% said yokich
01:06:03They were within 0.7 of each other and Luca Shea and Tatum or the next up
01:06:08The fuck pick power bank era, what are we doing? I don't think Tatum's that everybody on the Orlando match
01:06:15Yeah, I don't think Tatum's that crazy but Wemby is the clear answer the fact that he outdid yokich already is crazy to me though
01:06:21I think that's that's a little wild. That's crazy. Yeah, and it's funny that the vote is almost like split between the two of them
01:06:28I mean he averaged 3.6 blocks this season in 1.2 steals like that is fucking nuts
01:06:34Also others receiving votes
01:06:37Jared Allen. Yeah, Jared Allen
01:06:40It all starts with defense
01:06:45Why
01:06:47Scoot Henderson getting a vote after that season is crazy, too
01:06:50But I guess if you see the vision you see that there's multiple people voting for Paolo is crazy
01:06:54That's got to be magic guys. It just has to match players. Yeah, they they love each other
01:06:58That's like the same as Shay like did you did you watch the Thunder game?
01:07:01I said you see them all barking after the game. I love the barking the barking
01:07:04I didn't see the barking. Do you don't you don't know this thing from the Celtics? You don't know the barking thing
01:07:09No, oh the Thunder we're doing all season. They had they had their equivalent of
01:07:14Like Mark D'Amico do it and he said wait, wait, wait and the reportage goes
01:07:24Respond actually, no, I'm gonna keep talking
01:07:27Friend asked me for help. Don't worry. That's fine. Let me see. Let me see Thunder reporter bark. I'm so surprised
01:07:33You never saw this. This was awesome. Yeah, here we go. Look at this
01:07:37here is
01:07:38So the Thunder have been doing this. Hold up. No, let me find the Adam
01:07:43Or bark first because the Thunder I've been doing this all season, so here's the first one
01:07:50This is like the Thunder's thing this year Sam. I'm like I said, I'm surprised you haven't seen it yet
01:07:55Let me know when you're you're looking I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in I'm in here is
01:07:58That's Adam Flagler, he's there to one of their two-way guys. He's on the then. Okay. See blue team. That'd be a I
01:08:05Am aware of him. He had a tremendous game
01:08:08But um, this is a couple a little while later. No, I gotta find the good audio of it. Here is
01:08:14Here's Nick Gallo
01:08:18Here's Nick Gallo
01:08:20Yeah, here we go
01:08:50It's
01:08:54So good man, it's so good
01:08:57Maturity well beyond their years
01:09:00The 82 game regular season in a grueling Western conference and emerged as the youngest team ever
01:09:06This is more game one number one seed and as you'll see in tonight's sport back
01:09:10They're also the youngest team ever to win 55 or more games
01:09:14But with that said OKC is doubling down on its zero and zero mentality guys
01:09:18Shane told me that the regular season is in the past and now the Thunder is on to a new season and they've got to
01:09:23Be ready for all that entails. Oh
01:09:28What the hell I thought they're gonna do bark they label this is as oh the man, oh, I see
01:09:33But yeah, they just they just had him bark
01:09:36Now that that's awesome I am pro that yeah, it's their thing
01:09:40It's their thing Thunder officially now my favorite West team. See they rock. They're they're really awesome
01:09:46All right. Next thing
01:09:48Who is the league's most overrated player?
01:09:51Well that answers my question really go bear getting a whopping 13.6 percent of the votes
01:09:55Jordan pool tray and Dylan Brooks Tatum also up there Tatum
01:10:00Gets 2.5 percent of vote. Is he the only Celtic Jalen Brown got one vote as well. Nobody else in this little rant
01:10:05Grant got one vote down there. But yeah, really go bear Jordan pool tray on seems like a pretty
01:10:10I'll say fair one two three
01:10:13Yeah, I think that's pretty fair
01:10:15This can't have that trick y'all
01:10:18also there
01:10:19Why is Julius Randall solo? Yeah too low should be number one. Where's that Cleveen?
01:10:26No, Zach Levine Alex Caruso got a vote. That's great. Anybody for I bet they forgot that Zach Levine plays. This is true
01:10:34Ben Simmons is on here
01:10:37Ben Simmons is on here. All right next one
01:10:41Notice how only 81 people voted for this they didn't want to vote they didn't want to be a part of it
01:10:45Next one who is the league's most underrated player Derek white Jalen Williams
01:10:51Tied for top and drew holiday and third a lot of love for the Celtics guards right here. Yeah a lot of love
01:10:56Peyton Pritchard also got one vote down here that everybody else votes. He's a dog
01:10:59But um, yeah, a lot of people got votes for this because no Tatum hard question
01:11:05Because he's not underrated he's like a top ten player in the league. It's hard to be underrated
01:11:10Other random names in here Lester quinones
01:11:15Jamal Kane
01:11:18Who else Andrew Nembhard got a couple votes to Monty Kamara got a couple votes. Yeah, they're quite
01:11:27When you said those other guys
01:11:29Hmm, all I could think of is they voted for themselves. But for some reason I don't think Pete Pritchard voted for himself
01:11:35No, I don't think you can vote for I don't think you would vote for yourself
01:11:39I don't think you people
01:11:42Well in in later questions, there's a restriction like what team outside of your own
01:11:47So I wonder if they're like you can't say yourself. Like yeah, it wouldn't surprise me
01:11:50next question
01:11:52Is who in the league would you least like to fight and
01:11:5654%
01:11:59James Johnson
01:12:01It is funny because like the top six James Johnson Steven Adams Isaiah Stewart
01:12:06All because like probably the huge but I bet you money that Boban Marjanovich is on here just cuz everyone fucking loves both
01:12:12That's true. That's actually a good good point. Like I just think that's like he's so likable other guys on here
01:12:19There's no Celtic Bruno Fernando finesses, which lie
01:12:23finesses through a wall dude
01:12:25Yeah, it's just James Johnson. Well, there's this clip of James Johnson saying I think I can beat John Jones in a fight
01:12:30Which is insane
01:12:33But yeah, no one wants to fight James Johnson, no one wants to fuck with him. Yeah
01:12:37jock Lawndale getting a vote for this is
01:12:40interesting
01:12:41Maybe people just like him too. Well, no, he's the one that got punched by his. No
01:12:48That was true you banks
01:12:50Different white guy my bad. Yeah
01:12:52We all look the same. Yeah next one
01:12:56Next question. Who is the greatest player of all time Michael Jordan getting?
01:12:59Slowly creeped up on by LeBron Michael Jordan still wins 46% LeBron in second at 42 Kobe got just under 10%
01:13:06Everyone else got like nothing but Steph Curry Magic Johnson and Paul Pierce. He's got one vote as well
01:13:12Who the fuck I love know who voted for Paul Pierce. Yeah
01:13:16You had to be a Celtic right every player
01:13:19That is at the podium if they win
01:13:23Did were you the one that voted for Paul Pierce? I will not
01:13:26You do it next time you do
01:13:28Yeah, but would you do it if you go to the game? Maybe don't lie if it was a win
01:13:33Maybe don't lie in the podcast
01:13:36Don't lie in the party would be a read the room thing. I wouldn't guarantee it. No shot
01:13:41next one, I'll be at Jordan and
01:13:43Jordan and James with their next one. What's your favorite arena to play in?
01:13:48Madison Square Garden number 134 percent TD Garden number two at 17 crypto comm 13%
01:13:52Those were the three by landslide you get it like
01:13:56Getting excited to play in Utah. I
01:14:00Don't know that is an odd one to be up there
01:14:02I will say no one fucks with Minnesota
01:14:05I get why Madison Square Garden is up there and it's less because of like the basketball
01:14:09Significance and more because of the like historical significance of the arena in general
01:14:13So like you get it, but shout out to the garden number two
01:14:17It should be towards the top great environment
01:14:20Yeah, so there you go next question what's the do what you read do you least like to play oh, no
01:14:28Little sees our Pistons catching us straight. Well, nobody wants to play the Pistons. That's why by a landslide
01:14:34You know what? They say sometimes it's like just don't be that team
01:14:37And if you go to Little Caesars, you may become that team
01:14:41TD Garden got three percent of the vote. So they were in there probably
01:14:44But yeah
01:14:46Little street. No one fucks a little so there's no one fucks with
01:14:49Charlotte Memphis Washington or Utah either
01:14:53There you go, Utah top five in both
01:14:58Right top five. No one two, three, four five. It was six then most liked five. Yeah
01:15:04next one
01:15:06I
01:15:08Don't know what I'm gonna say. I don't know what I'm gonna say
01:15:10Five yeah
01:15:13Next one. Oh wait
01:15:16I want to read some of these little caesars. No fans. No atmosphere at the moment. It's very open
01:15:20It's got to be packed out for it to stand out. That's just not what it is
01:15:24Tough it's quiet good arena, but quiet for charlotte
01:15:27um
01:15:28As far as capital one
01:15:30Very cold. There's no soul to it
01:15:33denver's ball arena
01:15:36Do we have a seventh altitude investigation?
01:15:41Go back go back to ball arena, okay
01:15:46What
01:15:47Oh my god, that team needs to be moved. The altitude is crazy. I don't like it at all
01:15:51Every time I play there i'm dog tired joel
01:15:56Well, he hasn't had any experience him so he might not remember
01:16:00Well, you know how it is when you like have a memory a distant memory that is very far away
01:16:05He has not played there since before kovin
01:16:08True everything gets turned up a little bit whether it's good nostalgia or bad. You're gonna remember
01:16:14a little bit of uh extra
01:16:17By the way people talking some one player about the celtics or td garden crazy atmosphere some big sports fans
01:16:22It's so loud in there another said he likes facing the celtics in boston because he enjoys playing in the quote hostile environment. So respect
01:16:29Shout out td garden
01:16:30Next one which current coach aside from your own would you most liked?
01:16:33Uh most want to play for eric spolstra number one by a mile, uh, greg popp up there as well
01:16:38Joe got a few votes down at the bottom in there. Um, but yeah, mostly just spolstra pop steve
01:16:44Kurd the guys who've just been doing it. I don't get
01:16:50It doesn't make sense to me
01:16:52but
01:16:53uh
01:16:54Which coach besides your own would you least like to play for it? Have you seen this one yet?
01:16:58Which who's?
01:16:59Who's number one doc is way up at the top. No, it's a landslide number one by a mile number one
01:17:06They don't fuck with tibs
01:17:09Oh, I thought tibs. Oh you were on the other one, weren't you where tibs is at the bottom?
01:17:14Go back up to the the what coach would you want to play for?
01:17:18Yeah, tibs right here. So I thought this was the list and I was like, oh my guess was tibs
01:17:23But I guess he's at the bottom. No, no, no tibs
01:17:2747 percent of the vote. No one fucks with tibs. Joe was really got one vote, by the way
01:17:32Was really got one vote
01:17:33but yeah
01:17:33It is tibs then doc but the gap between tib tibs got 47 percent of the vote doc is in second at nine percent
01:17:39Just no one wants to play with tibs
01:17:41Which is crazy
01:17:43um, but yeah, no one, uh
01:17:46Nobody hates like being physically active quite like professional athletes like they hate playing games
01:17:52Well, I wonder if it's tibs because
01:17:54I wonder how much of it goes into it like tibs never played ball himself. Like I wonder if that's what you're respecting
01:17:59He never played he played i'm just saying
01:18:03I'm, just saying not at like a super high level. Like I don't I think who who was I listening to speak about tibs?
01:18:09It was somebody on like
01:18:12I want to say reddick. Maybe it was bill simmons
01:18:15He played at salem state
01:18:18You know who it was. I think it was hurley
01:18:20Talking about tibs being a very offensive minded guy when he used to play and didn't play a lick of defense
01:18:28Yeah, sam tibs played at salem state for context. Worcester state plays. Salem state three times a year
01:18:35He still played like college ball
01:18:37D3, it's not it's not the highest level of college ball, but it's not like me showing up to coach
01:18:42I gotta know what he averaged now
01:18:44Yeah, I got he was like a locomotion he was the captain for one season so I guess and he did win a league championship
01:18:52Yeah, I guess winner
01:18:54Anyways next question which team other than your own will win the title this year nuggets at 56
01:18:58Celtics at 34 the next up is the clippers at 2.4
01:19:02Who the fuck is saying the kings, you know, what's kind of funny is the knicks aren't on here
01:19:07I'm, sorry. No, no, I don't I get the whole knicks meme. Haha. Who the fuck said the kings? What do we do?
01:19:12I like i'm trying to think jenny like halburton. Did halburton say the kings like no, he fucking hates the kings
01:19:20who
01:19:20I don't know
01:19:22I can't imagine
01:19:23Like i'm trying to there's not even like any like funny. Maybe it's just someone everyone else
01:19:28Everyone else on your clippers thunder bucks wolves mavs lakers like you can understand why a player might say that
01:19:34Come on kings
01:19:36What are we doing?
01:19:38next one
01:19:39um
01:19:40Oh wait, this is about the celtics
01:19:42Uh when you've got your holiday the team on a team with tatum brown who are shot makers and he's a great defender obviously
01:19:47And with chris tops, they've got danger everywhere and defensively
01:19:49Well, also their fans make it hard to beat them for sure. Shout out
01:19:52W and then about the nuggets. It's like a factory plug and play they play the right way
01:19:57No matter who's out there. Shout out to yokich. Just like a factory. So sick
01:20:02All right
01:20:03And then someone says whoever's coming to the east is going to lose to the west
01:20:06What letter grade do you give the referees this season?
01:20:08Three percent gave an a 27 gave a b 48 gave a c 13
01:20:14d 8 f
01:20:17Not a big fan
01:20:18Not a big fan of the refs
01:20:21Well, they are c or better more than they are c or below
01:20:26This is it
01:20:27Shit, they don't know if they want us to play or not to play but they're good people, but they good people
01:20:33Yeah
01:20:34It's a different sense of entitlement
01:20:36It's a different sense of entitlement that they feel they get a bit more
01:20:40Sensitive than they had previously some of the missed calls. It's just like that's not okay
01:20:43And some of them are blatant, but it's not an easy job, but i've seen better years
01:20:47um
01:20:48but yeah, I don't know and the
01:20:50The people gave an a they just make the calls the league wants to make and so we're just adjusting again
01:20:54So this isn't even like the refs were good. It's just they're just doing what they're told
01:20:59Like that's why one is like the nicest one
01:21:02I don't think people realize how hard it is all things considered. They've done a good job. That's not a good
01:21:06Job, I'd ever want to have there's still definitely room for growth, but within the job. That's what's asked of them
01:21:09I think they've done a great job. Yeah fair enough. What letter grade would you give adam silver?
01:21:1446.2 a
01:21:1746.9 b 6.9 c no ds or fs. Let's see. Yeah these quotes
01:21:25Some of the things he does we're not gonna like but that's just as the players, uh, we like to complain about shit
01:21:30but I think what he's doing is gratefully the end season tournament the play and all this to build the luster of the league and
01:21:34To build the tv ratings to make sure we're there at a certain place
01:21:36So when it comes time for this new tv deal, we can do it
01:21:38Another said i'd give them an a the money's good. The fans are enjoying the games
01:21:41We've got an in-season tournament that everyone looks forward to now, especially because there's money in the line
01:21:45I wanted to win. I really wanted to win that in-season tournament. I had some plans for that money for real
01:21:51Everything is good except the all-star game that weekend wasn't great
01:21:54Other than that, I feel like it's been entertaining
01:21:56I feel like the league's been real competitive and then the last quote
01:21:58The only reason i'm going to give silver b and not an a is that i'm not sure the players have the liberty to speak
01:22:02Out against referees the way it should be
01:22:04I do to a certain extent understand why
01:22:07That is because you've got to create a culture of togetherness
01:22:09You can't just randomly criticize referees and all that stuff
01:22:11But some of this stuff especially with refs they have an ego and they know that so they act a certain way towards you
01:22:16Because they know you'll lose money to criticize them. Adam is doing a great job of maximizing our money in a great way
01:22:23There you go all about the money respect thoughts
01:22:29Not a lick of mention of the jerseys
01:22:32I think it's because no one actually gives a shit. They should care because no one
01:22:37Everyone understands that it has literally zero impact on the way the games are played
01:22:42It does not matter. So you never won a title wearing green at home
01:22:47You're the only person that cares about the jerseys never never won white on the road
01:22:52Uh, are you in favor or against the 65 game rule 50% against 44.8 for five percent? I don't know
01:22:59You know, it's funny I thought it would be far more skewed
01:23:03Like people against it. Yeah, I thought everyone would be against it
01:23:08I guess the people excuse me who are for it. Do we have quotes probably?
01:23:13Yeah, I guess 65 games that gives you a 17 game cushion, uh, i'm all for it you've got to be out there
01:23:18Yeah respect. Yeah fair
01:23:20but at the same time like do you see Dante DiVincenzo was enough for most improved because he like he played in 70 games, but
01:23:25He only played tibbs tibbs tried his best
01:23:28To get him. No minutes. He yeah, but he just played too few games. So tibbs fucked him early in the season, I guess
01:23:35Bonus question. Who's your favorite current non-nba athlete?
01:23:38lamar jackson
01:23:40Overwhelmingly wins 13 percent. Uh caitlin clark second at six percent
01:23:44Novak jokovic usain bolt pat mahomes mike tyson justin jefferson. Um, it just got votes
01:23:51mike james
01:23:54Former kd kd said that did he definitely said it had probably
01:24:01brother
01:24:04Oh is is thompson on here trace thompson's towards the bottom i'm just going definitely looking quick
01:24:10Hmm tiger woods got that interesting of a fucking question, but yeah, there's nothing like super interesting like
01:24:17Yeah, yeah, whatever i'm i just want to see if there were any like who's the tennis guy that likes the celtics
01:24:24Oh, oh, oh, he's on here. I think I said, oh nick krigos
01:24:29Yeah, krigos
01:24:31Kyrgios, yeah something like that
01:24:34Yeah, okay, cool. Is that it?
01:24:39Shout out one of the nba players said kurt cousins because he gets paid and doesn't have to win or do anything in the
01:24:43Mid 400 million off one playoff win legend
01:24:47That's all time
01:24:49That's so sick. Okay. Um
01:24:52Time to pull up another thread buddy. Uh, we're gonna look at the finalists for every single nba award
01:24:57Let's take a look see who is the finalist for these couldn't be more thrilled
01:25:02Even though I put this on the sheet. Yeah, you made this sheet. You don't get to complain buddy
01:25:05No, I mean when they actually put the finalists out
01:25:09The finalists out it's like a little like it has more meaning than like people being like you should be in the conversation
01:25:15Your tweet calling me out was absolutely correct
01:25:18But at the same time it is a little different
01:25:21It's not this is literally what the conversation is
01:25:23No, the conversation spans like 10 fucking guys
01:25:27Yeah, so you can whittle it down to three eventually
01:25:28But that's the whole point of the conversation is whittling it down to see who the winner is and that's exactly what this is
01:25:32Doing this is still stupid
01:25:35sure
01:25:36finalists for the mvp award
01:25:39luca shay yokich
01:25:41um
01:25:42I think yokich should and will win
01:25:43but I do think it's a lot closer than people think because I mean you just saw the player votes like shay was right there
01:25:48Too I was surprised how close it was
01:25:50gonna win
01:25:51And luca's there
01:25:53deep boy, um bam gobert wemby
01:25:58Rudy probably gonna win but
01:26:02Yes, that's for sure
01:26:05A lot of people mad the reason why I have a problem with this shit is because when we can look at the top three
01:26:10And be like, well, it's not gonna be him
01:26:13He's not really in the run
01:26:15No, well, he's still finished top three. Um
01:26:19No, um
01:26:21What was I gonna say, I feel like it might go to bear
01:26:24I think it will but I think because that's the top defense and people will be hesitant to be like well the spurs sucked and
01:26:31There's that yeah, but wemby was the best defensive player the year of the year like he was the best
01:26:35Yeah, I mean this year
01:26:37So I think that's like the dichotomy all the stuff where he had guys turning the opposite way and didn't even want to go
01:26:41In the paint. It's valid
01:26:43um, a lot of lakers fans mad at anthony davis and one made the point of like look what anthony davis is doing with a
01:26:49Uh shit lakers team and and someone said, uh, well, let me let me talk. So someone was like
01:26:57You're a real motherfucker, you know that I said go ahead
01:27:01Don't get mad at me for being like go ahead. I'm like, oh fuck. You're right. Yeah, go ahead
01:27:06Uh, someone said, um, look at what anthony davis is doing with nobody on their talent on his team and someone was like
01:27:11Do you see what do you see? What the fuck he's doing? Did you see that spurs team?
01:27:16Uh, yeah, yeah
01:27:18Uh, this is like stupid like what do you give a fuck if davis is in that bam spot? He's still not gonna win
01:27:26It's just the recognition somebody tweeted like um,
01:27:28Anthony davis never winning defensive player of the year is going to be like spolster never winning coach of the year
01:27:32Which like I kind of get because like he's been a top defender league a lot, but he never had that season, I guess
01:27:38um, but uh
01:27:41Like yannis kind of started out of nowhere like in the late 2010s where
01:27:45People thought that was going to be the davis time for him to win it and then oh wait
01:27:49This guy from greece is really good. Yeah, he wins
01:27:52Yeah, um
01:27:54Anthony davis said something about it, too. He said i'll never get it. The league doesn't like me
01:27:58I'm the best of floods to play in the league
01:27:59I can switch one through five and guard the pick and roll the best league from a big standpoint
01:28:02I've blocked shots. I don't know what else to do
01:28:05Uh poor guy. He actually played enough games this year too, and he did did his job
01:28:10I know poor guy. He's he's like i'm never fucking playing 65 games again
01:28:15Uh, that was the whole knock and it is I get I understand why
01:28:19I think he had a better defense season. I don't know. I don't it doesn't matter. Uh rookie of the year finalist won't win
01:28:25chet holmgren brendan miller victor wemba nyamba
01:28:28No, jaime. Hawkins is very surprising to me, but it is he's probably like fourth on this
01:28:34Still wouldn't win
01:28:36it's really between chet and wemby and if you it's it's rookie of the year because
01:28:40with rookie of the year, you can't even really be like well, did he win because
01:28:44Rookies that are high quality typically are drafted. Yeah by the worst team. So it doesn't even matter. It's when this could be a
01:28:52A
01:28:53Like I think this could be close to a a unanimous one b. Yeah, it is one b also for what it's worth
01:29:00We're wrong
01:29:01Hawkins averaged 12 four and two and a half on 49 32
01:29:06I know he averaged 17 four and two on or two and a half on 44. Don't throw me into that. It's not probably
01:29:12yeah, yeah, uh, it's
01:29:15I saw a lot of hornets fans like mad all season like why the fuck is brandon milling getting discounted?
01:29:19So because nobody gives a fuck about the hornets
01:29:22Next one coach of the year mark dagnall chris finch namal mosley
01:29:27This is the one you tweeted about and if you're tweeting about it
01:29:29That means something's a little egregious joe mazula not being top three is fucking crazy
01:29:33I just thought it was weird because they won all the games crazy. It's I don't think joe mazula would have won
01:29:37It's dagnall's award. He's going to win. He won the coach's poll like he's obviously going to win
01:29:42I think it's well that doesn't always mean it that's actually been different. When's the last time?
01:29:47I think um
01:29:48I I know monty williams. There was one like ramani one, but then somebody else won. Okay, all right
01:29:53Well, maybe i'm wrong. It was bud. It might have been bud
01:29:55Actually, this is one of those things where all season we've been like it's going to be diagonal because joe is somebody that we've
01:30:03Pontificated about like well, there weren't a lot of games
01:30:06But this is just not the year like okc played so far above the expectations. We set for them before the season
01:30:12And he's obviously a big part of that. He's going to get the credit he deserves
01:30:16So this is like a wash for dagnaw's I want to find like the history of that award, um, but I don't know
01:30:25Where to find it like last year it was
01:30:27Who won the coach of the year last year?
01:30:30It was mike brown, right?
01:30:32It was mike brown because the king's overachieved
01:30:36Um
01:30:37I should be able to find this way easier
01:30:40Because I don't want to take forever on this but like I don't like I do want I do think this is an interesting
01:30:45um
01:30:46Thing to look at but I I really cannot find. Um
01:30:51This mike brown won it
01:30:53um
01:30:54I think he was a double last year. He was double. Yeah
01:30:58um, i'm just searching like custom ranges now just so I can um
01:31:02See, but I do remember there was a year where it was like different for both and I was like, oh interesting
01:31:06Um monty williams won in 20. Oh, yes. It was monty williams won in 2022, but tibbs won coach of the year
01:31:13I see. I think it was. Yeah, i'm pretty sure that was the difference. Um, anyways
01:31:19uh
01:31:20Six man of the year malik monk bobby portis nods reed. Uh, jay king was mad about this
01:31:25He said something along the lines of like one day voters will understand how to vote for bench players who actually impact their team
01:31:30And he said he would have voted for bogdanovich
01:31:32Um, because I think all of his on off numbers were like the hawks were just so much better with him on the court
01:31:36But um, I see why these guys are here
01:31:38I think it's malik monk, but I could see why naz read would win. I think portis will be third
01:31:43I think monk was like head and shoulders and then got hurt. Yes for like two games, but he's still a future on him
01:31:50So I am biased. Oh, you're biased. Okay, but I did you get that in before the season?
01:31:55No, no, no like midway through it's not a lot, but it's something
01:32:00Nas read also started a bunch of games when towns went out. So
01:32:04It's true. Yeah, um then clutch player most improved player, uh, tyree's maxie apparent shangun kobe white
01:32:11Feels like maxi is the obvious answer I do but I think that's dumb
01:32:16You think I think yeah, I think I think the spirit of the most improved player award needs to be restructured because like
01:32:24Maxi was a star last year, but he's like a superstar this year
01:32:28I think most improved players shouldn't go from a guy who goes from a star to superstar
01:32:31it should go to a player who was like
01:32:34a not like very good into like blossomed into a star like a really like amazing player like kobe white it like
01:32:40Last year ever like kobe white got paid 10 million dollars a year last year and now he blossomed into a star that is most
01:32:45Like improved like maxi averaged five more points because hardened left that like is that improved or is it just more opportunity?
01:32:52Took on a significantly larger role and did well
01:32:54But but is that is that most improved or is that took advantage of a new opportunity?
01:32:58Kobe white had the same exact stuff he did last year. He just got better year to year
01:33:03Didn't play a bulk of this season
01:33:05He had to take on more responsibility this year
01:33:08I just I disagree with the framing of the award. I think it's bad like like john
01:33:11Morant won most improved a couple years ago. That's it was jaw. Like he's what what are we doing? He's obviously star
01:33:17Just because you're good doesn't mean you can't disagree
01:33:20I I know but I just I don't think it's within like the spirit of the award
01:33:23I just you're you're a kobe white guy and you're a little mad. It's not it's not even a kobe white thing
01:33:28It's just in general like like let me look is it most improved player award voting?
01:33:33There are other examples of this in years past that I I like am thinking of that. I can't like
01:33:38Name off the top of my head. Like let me see. Um last year
01:33:41The best example of like what you would like it to be was ola depo won it when he went to the pacers and became nasty
01:33:48Yeah, that's why last year. Laurie marketing won. That's a perfect example
01:33:52That is the defensive player of the year like when she was a candidate last year
01:33:56she versus um
01:33:59What's it called she versus laurie marketing is kobe white versus tyree's maxie
01:34:03And it's why laurie deserved to win over shea in my opinion. It's the same thing
01:34:07Because it's a role player going to a star rather than just a star
01:34:11Getting a little bit better and taking advantage opportunities
01:34:13and then like the year before it was most improved was john morant over dijonte murray and darius garland who went from like
01:34:21Solid players to like making a jump like there were no great players like uh, that was about 2022
01:34:27Yeah, so jog got drafted in 2019
01:34:30We all knew he was good for a little while
01:34:31I mean I can see that but it also feels like the stars they give it to don't win it for no reason
01:34:37like like
01:34:38Go ahead. I mean maxie
01:34:41Felt it from the jump like yes, he took on and he had more opportunity, but like he thrived and he did a great job
01:34:48I get it's not nothing like when you're playing
01:34:51And you see like just look at jalen, right?
01:34:54There are games where tatum is out and then he sees the full focus of the defense. He doesn't look as good
01:34:59Some guys aren't made for that
01:35:02like my listen like
01:35:04I'm, not discounting how good tyree's maxie was this year. Obviously, he's great, but he went from averaging
01:35:0923 and three and a half to 26 three and a half and six
01:35:14His splits both went down. He shot three percent worse from the field and six percent worse from three kobe white
01:35:21Meanwhile went from averaging
01:35:23nine
01:35:23Three and three to nineteen five and five
01:35:27On the same exact splits
01:35:30He tarry's maxie just had more chances. He didn't improve
01:35:34he just showed what we already knew he could already do and was able to do it because somebody else left and I get the
01:35:39Zach levine thing but like he averaged 10 more points like that
01:35:44Yeah, like that's that's the only thing I just I don't know I mean you make a fair case but
01:35:49It still felt like maxie and in fairness to maxie
01:35:53Not to say that it shouldn't hurt his award status
01:35:57But and beat also like didn't play
01:36:00A lot of the year and then it was fully on him and the sixers
01:36:05Yeah, I just they were all I just I don't like stars winning most improved like like true
01:36:11I think in this case you're at you may absolutely be right like kobe white took a massive jump as well and didn't become less efficient
01:36:19But there are also seasons where sometimes stars deserve to win
01:36:22I suppose
01:36:23Um, I get it
01:36:26Last one is nba clutch player of the year dumbest award. Uh, yeah steph de rosen and shay
01:36:31I contend if your team's not in the playoffs, you cannot win the award
01:36:36Um, but so shay's the only one that would get they can qualify. Yeah, I have a future on him, too
01:36:43Um, the answer is probably to rosen though
01:36:45I mean the bulls were 10 games above 500 in clutch games and they finished the season below 500. That's insane
01:36:51Like it's probably sold me on it
01:36:54That this was the warriors were good too, but
01:36:57this is like
01:36:58It's so unbelievably subjective
01:37:01That's like like it is even more subjective than the rest
01:37:04like the reason why the awards suck is because they're all subjective like I hate that that's kind of like
01:37:09I get it, but then there would be no point of handing out awards if they were that's not true
01:37:16It I mean in soccer they give out a golden boot in the premier league because the guy scores the most goals
01:37:21I
01:37:23Guess yeah, then just give out a word for the most points. Yeah, they do most scoring title
01:37:28Exactly. So they do cool
01:37:30So is the scoring title the mvp?
01:37:32I don't think it's the mvp. Well, then
01:37:35It needs to be my point is it needs to be it can't be completely objective. There is no way to compete
01:37:39No, I don't i'm not sick
01:37:40I think the most fun way to do mvp would be to like to have like all these other little awards and the calculation
01:37:45Ever wins the most gets the mvp
01:37:48I think there should be like
01:37:50I guess you can make it some sort of like calculation when you're in elementary school doing a project
01:37:55I my favorite story for that is still gary washard being the only anti-lebron voter
01:38:00W gary actually next time I see I'll be like hey
01:38:04Respect that is I also hate lebron
01:38:07Um, all right, let's go to the rat list here. Sam. Would you like to kick us off? I sure will
01:38:12Uh, so we have this one from today. We'll do rat list
01:38:16Mlb umpires, I will share my screen
01:38:19If I saw this this is the aaron boone thing to open up. Yeah, I will not let me oh there's open link
01:38:24He usually says open a new tab
01:38:26So today the yankees are playing a day game at 1 p.m
01:38:31And their manager aaron boone was ejected
01:38:35For something he did not do now. I'm not even going to share the tab audio. You don't need to hear it
01:38:41He's just chilling mine has been
01:38:43Ejected
01:38:47And he has been ejected for nothing
01:38:51I didn't say anything. He said it he said
01:38:54He's he's doing he's doing the I didn't touch the ball when it went out of bounds
01:38:59Did the ejection go through did they send him out? He got tossed five pitches into the game
01:39:04That is horrible. So rat list mlb umps. Wow mlb umps are the worst aaron boone for something that somebody in the crowd
01:39:11Mlb umps are the worst referees in any sport by a landslide. It's not close
01:39:15It's it's not close. I mean you've met matt. He is a diehard umpire fan
01:39:20And he is saying that boone was ejected based off of his reputation. So it's like a draymond situation a little bit. Yeah, it's terrible
01:39:29Also
01:39:30Angel hernandez, you know, are you familiar with angel?
01:39:33He is just the poster boy of like look at this guy's bad
01:39:36Like you don't even really have to pay attention to baseball and like you can just be like, yeah, the angel hernandez guy sucks
01:39:42Everyone will be like
01:39:44This is insane. Um, there was one play at the start of the season
01:39:49angel hernandez like
01:39:51Called like 10 missed calls or something like one sec. Are you familiar with his origin story?
01:39:57No
01:39:58So like 10 15 years like around 2010
01:40:02Pitcher threw a borderline perfect game
01:40:05Yeah, and he butchered the call
01:40:08Where I think it was either a grounder or drop third strike
01:40:12And the guy was clearly out at first, but he called him safe. I don't think that was angel hernandez
01:40:16I know that play. I don't think that was angel hernandez though. I think it was
01:40:20um
01:40:21I don't think so. Let me you keep like looking. I don't know if you'll find on twitter. I'll just google it quick
01:40:27Hold up botched perfect game umpire first base
01:40:30I know exactly what it was
01:40:31But I don't think it was him because I know the umpires
01:40:33I know the umpire was like very very like apologetic. Yeah, it was jim. Joyce. Jim. Joyce. My bad. Yeah. Yeah
01:40:41I don't know why I mean, I guess maybe just all of these socks. Yeah, all of the this guy sucks chatter
01:40:48Yeah, but jim. Joyce was like
01:40:51In tears apologizing to him too. Like he felt really really really bad that he butchered a perfect game
01:40:57Shit happens man. It's tough
01:41:00um
01:41:01Rattlest emmanuel our chatter today. You're a fucking idiot still angry at it
01:41:05Uh, if you were in talking to these today, this guy came in was like tatum sucks
01:41:09That was a terrible game on how you keep defending him and like I let it go for most of it
01:41:13And then he goes jack. You're just fucking you just love him
01:41:15So watch i'm like and I got mad and I banned him so you you do have a a blind eye sometimes
01:41:21To tatum doing dumb shit
01:41:24Today was not a day to be like tatum sucks. I don't think it's a blind eye
01:41:28I think I try to overcompensate for how much you like just maybe okay for no reason
01:41:34I'm, very hard on tatum and I think the chatter was out of line. I don't think that he was right
01:41:39There's just a weird spot to criticize him team just won by a billion
01:41:42He played a very well game and made good decisions
01:41:45Yeah saying that he was like bad in that game
01:41:47Like you just didn't watch like you just you don't know ball objectively. You're an idiot
01:41:52Anyway, sorry, I get mean when I get angry. So i'm gonna that's fine
01:41:56I'll be a rat ratless that I gotta be pissed off
01:42:00You're absolutely allowed to like criticize people on our show I don't like
01:42:05I don't I just don't like being like
01:42:07Rude, but can we got me mad the eruption?
01:42:11No, I don't want to pull it up
01:42:15You know, I have the video I get really I have this video though
01:42:18I found the video of the uh, the fan yelling
01:42:22Like behind boone
01:42:24All right, here it is
01:42:27Yeah, look at this look at the guy in the blue right here, okay with the phone, oh no this guy right here
01:42:35You can tell he had some power behind whatever he had to say
01:42:41This has got to be one of the worst
01:42:43Injections, it is it's got to be the worst injection ever
01:42:47respect
01:42:48mlb umpires and sorry matt have some of the like
01:42:53How do I phrase this
01:42:55They have like some of the napoleon syndrome. Yes. They have some of the biggest egos in the world
01:42:59like they they are they and they
01:43:01They are the most sensitive motherfuckers on the planet. Like they they think they're better than everybody. They're they're the people who like
01:43:07um
01:43:08Peaked in high school and now are trying to cling on to any like semblance of power that they can finally find in real life
01:43:13That's what they are. Okay
01:43:18That's hysterical, yeah, okay, um
01:43:22rat list
01:43:24Getting an oil change. Well rat list the the shop
01:43:28I am very loyal to this shop. I go there all every time I need an oil change. I go last monday. I'm going up to maine
01:43:35For this main celtics finals game
01:43:38And i'm like, you know what i'm making my oil change beforehand. I don't want my car to explode
01:43:43Their oil pump is not working come back the next day
01:43:47Still not working mind you the first day. They were like hey come back in like an hour. We got you
01:43:53So imagine if I decided to sit there and wait
01:43:56I would have been devastated finally got my oil change today took care of me. We'll continue to go back
01:44:01But very annoying time for them to be like, yeah pump out of service. Can't help you
01:44:08It's fucked up they lied they just fucking lied to you
01:44:12Would have led me astray insane
01:44:15um
01:44:17So I need I need like a var I need a ratless court here almost so I was driving
01:44:22and
01:44:23it's like this this lane highway merger where it's like
01:44:27There's two lanes coming into three lanes
01:44:29But then the second like the lane on the left in the lane on the far right like merge into one, right?
01:44:33And so i'm in the left lane merging with the other guys
01:44:36And i'm going through the people in front of me are going somewhat slow
01:44:39So once I get fully merged in with the other highway, I
01:44:42Turn my blinker on and i'm going to merge into like the far left too
01:44:45You know i'm saying you're in a tough spot because you're going slower than the flow of traffic
01:44:49Exactly but completely clear in the far left two lanes like all the way clear
01:44:55The car behind me
01:44:57Goes at the same time as me like they try they merge at the exact same time with me
01:45:00Very annoying your blinker on of course. Yeah, of course. I got you. All right, uh blinker going
01:45:05Both have a blinker on they didn't do anything wrong at that point, right?
01:45:08And so then i'm like, oh, okay. Sorry and I go to the far left lane, too
01:45:11At that point i'm going like 80 i'm like going 82 ish like i'm i'm trying to let me get up and get it going
01:45:17They go all the way into the right lane go 95 all the way past me
01:45:22Like like like it was deliberate. It was a revenge pass
01:45:25Like but they they are in like the far right lane now
01:45:27Like they go all the way down the highway to go forward now
01:45:30I need the rattles court is I did nothing wrong, right?
01:45:33Like this is like i'm going far like I am in my right to be in the left lane here going 82, correct
01:45:40Yeah, or not. No, you're 82. That's i'd say like anywhere from like 75 up is appropriate
01:45:46Okay depends on the flow of the rest of the traffic but usually like that's because like everybody else in the in the right
01:45:52Three four lanes. I forget if it was four or five lanes was going like 70
01:45:55So i'm like, all right
01:45:56I this is the only place I can go at the correct speed and so I was just like I was clearing my name here
01:46:00because I was like
01:46:02Like I don't think I was going that slow and so I was I was like what the fuck are we doing?
01:46:07So yeah rattles
01:46:08Stupid fucker going around me
01:46:10Rattless the nfl draft. So the nfl draft is thursday
01:46:14And it is rearing its ugly head i'm gonna have to hear about the fucking patriots all week
01:46:19the nfl draft is going to
01:46:21overtake the nba playoffs
01:46:24On some platforms where I enjoy consuming media
01:46:28And I don't like that
01:46:30This is this is my time of year. This is when basketball is a spotlight
01:46:34It's the most wonderful time of the year except for when the cellies lose and it is some of the best
01:46:40Energy content like all of the storylines drama that come from the nba playoffs you're gonna talk about
01:46:47the fucking draft and i'm not even talking about like
01:46:51New england talk radio because like I do get it like patriots never have a top pick. They have a top pick
01:46:57Like, I don't know
01:46:59Talk about the fucking playoffs
01:47:01playoffs rule
01:47:03Yeah, uh, I like i'm not like i'm excited to see what the patriots will do
01:47:09But i'm not we're not gonna talk about that here. So don't worry about it. Yeah, I don't care on the roads again. Um,
01:47:17So I
01:47:19I'm driving back from the game yesterday. Excuse me, and i'm in the second to left lane
01:47:24So the way this works is i'm trying to get ahead of it because the road splits into two different highways
01:47:28Like two and two to go one way to go the other and I need to go to the right
01:47:31So I am in the left or the far right two lanes because I need to be there eventually
01:47:35and so I am
01:47:37I have my blinker on for a long time here because there was like a decent amount of traffic
01:47:40So i'm like i'm need to make sure i'm good before I get over so i've been on for a long time
01:47:45As i'm about to go into the other one
01:47:47Car comes all the way flying in like 90 plus
01:47:51Weaves past me so I had to like jerk back
01:47:54and then in front of me all the way across like I genuinely think they were like racing because then another car was buying like
01:48:00It was terrifying because I was like halfway into the other way and had to go like back into this
01:48:04It was it was like rattles that fuck and then on at the same time
01:48:08Rattlers stupid fucking idiots who don't know how to pay attention. I am in the far
01:48:13So i'm following this minivan in the far left lane, right?
01:48:16and I think they were like
01:48:19Oh, this person in front of me is going too slow. Let me go into the the second to left lane to try to get past them
01:48:24But then they run into an even slower car at that point. I had already been like, all right, you're going that way
01:48:29I'm gonna pass you and go up to the front as i'm passing them
01:48:32They put their blinker on and start to drive into me like like like like a foot from my car. I had to honk
01:48:36I'm, like are you stupid?
01:48:38Are you dumb?
01:48:39And they like jerked back into their own lane and then they eventually were behind me
01:48:43And I think they knew they fucked up because they started stayed far enough behind me that they weren't even close to me
01:48:47They like they know they're like, oh shit my bad, but like guys
01:48:51What are we doing?
01:48:52There's being like aggressive on the roads and like wanting to go fast and there's being fucking moronic like come on
01:48:58Pay attention there. Um
01:49:00There actually was a time this week where I was like, what if I printed a there's no stop sign here sign out
01:49:06Just to hold up like but I would do it in reverse
01:49:08So it came up in the mirror as like they could read it
01:49:12Because I mean I have the intersection near my house and everyone stops it's like there's no stop sign just fucking drive
01:49:17I know i've talked about it before but I it would got so bad that I was like, what if I actually like took action?
01:49:23Yeah
01:49:26Rat list
01:49:29So my pinky has been killing me it's almost back probably 80 played the game yesterday
01:49:35I had a pretty good game
01:49:37But I shook someone's hand yesterday not at the game went to breakfast ran into somebody my girlfriend knew
01:49:44And I had to like shake hands
01:49:46Sure, I I am a fan of giving a firm handshake. I have no no problem with it
01:49:52But i've never been on the receiving end of a firm handshake while dealing with uh pinky that I initially thought
01:49:59Sure, so I I did have a nice shock about me when I shook hands with this guy and I was like, oh fuck that hurt
01:50:08So rattles the firm handshake that I received at breakfast yesterday
01:50:13That's fucking rattles duke for whatever is happening out there that I can't deal with yet because we're still potting but um
01:50:19One second we yelled him
01:50:22All right, all right
01:50:24That is what I said. Um
01:50:26This isn't really rattles. It's just a funny story. So I played golf on um,
01:50:31Rattles the rain
01:50:32Uh rattles the rain. Yeah, but it subsided. So actually it wasn't that bad at all. But
01:50:36We um, we played at widow's walk widow's walk. Excuse me in a situate which is very nice course. It was very fun
01:50:42it was very um, good course, uh cheap for the uh,
01:50:47the how nice the course was but
01:50:5018th hole
01:50:51you
01:50:52Get up to the tee and the way it is. I can't find an image or a layout but
01:50:57It is like a very long par five like it's a very straight hole
01:51:00But immediately to the left of you is just the road like the street
01:51:03um, so I hit my ball I pump it like
01:51:06300 yards into the like it gets in the middle of fairways great shot and we were playing a scramble
01:51:10so we're like
01:51:11we're they the two guys on my team like
01:51:14Don't hit it as far as I do. So they're like, all right
01:51:15We'll just get like hit for fun because we're gonna take that ball because we can't hit that far. Anyways, mike
01:51:21steps up
01:51:22He's like I'm gonna step on this and mike was like all I want to do is not hit it in the road
01:51:25I just don't want to hit in the road. I just want to hit it straight and he's thinking himself
01:51:29He's thinking don't hit it. Don't hit the road swings
01:51:31Just just be lines to the left
01:51:34Towards the road and me and ryan we're sitting there behind and we just go
01:51:38Like just mouth and cape start crying laughing and you see mike go
01:51:42Like head up on his head like oh shit, he hit it so far left it went over the entire road
01:51:48And so he was in the clear but like that is how far
01:51:51There's no houses on the other side of the road. No, it was woods
01:51:54I think I hit a house though because I hit a ball really far left and there was like a apartment complex right there
01:51:59But there's a curb this season where larry's playing golf and ahead of him is uh, a deaf guy
01:52:05Yeah, you show me this. Oh, yeah, and larry. Yeah
01:52:09Hits the ball and he can't he owes four but the guy can't hear him and it nails him in the back
01:52:17Larry what the fuck? I didn't think i'd hit it that far. Whoa, you hit that really far. Yeah, it's like the best
01:52:23Golf rock though. Um, I don't have
01:52:26Anything else? So, all right rat list our men's league team being significantly better than most of the other teams
01:52:33So our team has lost
01:52:35Jack was unable to come to the game yesterday in the last couple games because celtics, unfortunately, he'll miss the next one because celtics
01:52:41but
01:52:43We have been blowing the doors off teams. This is back-to-back sessions. I think we had a bye week last week
01:52:48so back-to-back games where we have
01:52:50Blown the opposing team out by 30 plus
01:52:55In both of these blowouts I have been the victim
01:52:59of painful contact
01:53:02But have not been able to justify getting a whistle because the game is all but decided
01:53:07So two weeks ago, I caught a mean knee to a tip my tailbone
01:53:11After I hit a pump fake and the guy came flying in and hit me
01:53:14And then yesterday I went for a rebound and got a palm to my face on a slap
01:53:21Right in front of a ref where you could hear the slap
01:53:24And there was nothing and I wasn't even mad at the ref because I was like, well, like we're up a billion like we're gonna call
01:53:30Yeah, but I mean it hurt dude, I my eyes were watering and shit I felt like a bitch
01:53:35I believe you it definitely hurt. Yeah
01:53:39And then, uh
01:53:41Obviously rattlers knicks fans as always
01:53:44Hate this group of people significantly. I hate them so much
01:53:48Uh, they started we want boston chin after they won one playoff game on
01:53:53Saturday night and then madison square garden put the celtics up on the matchup on the jumbotron today for shoot around
01:54:00I don't know if you saw that like the what no, you know how like in the celtics games
01:54:04It has like celtics zero points heat zero points
01:54:08Yeah, the celtics were the team that was on the other side of the
01:54:12Celtics run free. Yes. That's it. Literally a fan base that has no idea what to do when their team is good
01:54:21They just have no idea how to behave
01:54:24It is it is damning for the nets that they can't steal any fans
01:54:30Well, I mean they have loyal fans like I there I will never say the next fans aren't loyal but they are the worst fans
01:54:38Because they just like their fans
01:54:41Makes you think
01:54:43Yes. Yes. I I said to my dad. I think the next fans are worse than the lebron people
01:54:48Okay. Wow, that's saying something
01:54:50There you go, because they just they have no idea what they're supposed to do
01:54:54fair enough
01:54:55All right. That's all I got you anything else
01:54:58No, that's it for me I I made sure I had some material today I didn't want to come up into again
01:55:03You're right. We had to stretch out the show. It wasn't a long one at all. Thank you all for tuning in
01:55:08We appreciate it very much. Uh, thank you all for tuning in for a massive show a lot of stuff to go over
01:55:14So, uh, we're here we're here if we're gonna do two hour pause. This is one we should do
01:55:18Yeah, we did 22 minutes on the other playoff game. So huge. Thank you for tuning in
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