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00:00 Islamabad High Court Judges' Letter to the Supreme Court of India.
00:07 Asalam o alikum, dear viewers, you are watching the programme with Kashif Abbasi.
00:25 You must have heard in the last few days, the letter of the judges of Islamabad High Court has been revoked.
00:32 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:37 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:40 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:43 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:46 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:49 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:52 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:55 The Supreme Court has given a hearing on this matter.
00:58 On the other hand, Khawaja Asif has also said that the judge is speaking, the media is speaking.
01:08 Where were you when Mian Nawaz Sharif was out?
01:11 Were people's minds asleep at that time?
01:14 Is it right in our country that when political positions are taken, how are they taken?
01:21 They are taken when they feel the need to take political positions.
01:25 Every political party takes the position of its own interest.
01:28 I am sure the media is also divided in such matters, in position taking.
01:32 Today, another very important incident happened.
01:34 The judges of Islamabad High Court were threatened and it was said that a letter came to the judges,
01:39 which had the word Anthrax.
01:41 The word Anthrax was sent to different offices after 2001.
01:50 Anthrax is a poisonous substance that can kill anyone who is about to open up.
02:00 It is very disturbing that it has been sent to Islamabad High Court.
02:04 What is happening in the country at the moment?
02:07 There is a great excitement.
02:10 Mian Javed Lateef is with us.
02:12 Mian Sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
02:13 How are you?
02:15 Alhamdulillah.
02:16 You are not at peace, but you are in a good mood.
02:19 There is no peace in the whole country.
02:22 Burhan Khan's peace will be covered.
02:24 Yes, it seems so.
02:26 Mian Sahib, looking at you, I don't understand what you are saying about justice and law.
02:31 When you talk about justice, it seems that you are not talking about the law, but the justice system.
02:38 Kashif, when you were talking about the letter of six judges,
02:44 the commission was made, and the notice was issued,
02:47 some people talk about it, others say that it should not be talked about.
02:51 It is like this.
02:53 When someone talks about an issue,
02:56 it is said that he is a rebel,
02:58 or he is related to a certain community.
03:01 Does justice happen by looking at the time or by looking at the face?
03:06 It should not happen.
03:07 It should happen with everyone.
03:08 Justice should be with everyone and without looking at the face.
03:11 Today, you are saying that there should not be politics on this issue.
03:18 Or someone says it, you don't say it, someone else says it.
03:20 It should not be.
03:22 In other institutions, if there is a disagreement among different personalities,
03:27 there should not be politics.
03:29 There should be a discussion on principles.
03:31 One should stand with the person who has principles.
03:33 Are you giving wrong punishments to Imran Khan?
03:35 If you allow me, I am coming there.
03:37 The thing is, Kashif Abbasi, that it is too much now.
03:42 Pakistan has been saved from the bricks and we have all played together.
03:47 Today, even if you don't open the 75-year-old Panora Box,
03:52 you can open the two-door box.
03:54 Absolutely. Start with 17.
03:56 Is it okay?
03:57 The letter written by the judges,
04:00 they have said that along with us,
04:02 investigations of the allegations of Justice Shaukat Siddiqui should also be done.
04:06 You are saying a little.
04:08 This is very unfair.
04:10 You do it in such a way that you come from 2013 to 2017 and from 2018 to 2024.
04:16 You are talking about two doors.
04:18 And if there is an executive involved, he should be naked.
04:23 If there is a person from an agency involved, he should be there.
04:27 But in the case of Justice Shaukat Siddiqui,
04:30 the decision has been made,
04:32 those people did not become naked.
04:35 Those who had put pressure.
04:37 And what you are talking about Khwaja Asif Sahib,
04:41 what wrong has Khwaja Asif Sahib said?
04:43 That the decisions made by someone,
04:47 the current regime suffers, why does it suffer?
04:49 The thing that was about to wave the cup,
04:51 are those people not naked?
04:53 And what Imran Khan Sahib says,
04:56 that Jarnab Bajwa did this treatment.
04:59 We say that Jarnab Bajwa did this treatment.
05:02 Let's talk about Jarnab Faiz.
05:05 And today, Alhamdulillah, he has started to mention that Jarnab Faiz.
05:09 We were saying Jarnab Faiz from the beginning.
05:11 We were mentioning that the five judges did something with Pakistan
05:17 in the name of enmity,
05:19 but that made your state, your system,
05:24 and the economy of Pakistan sank.
05:26 You do this, that for the sake of six judges,
05:29 and the names of five judges that we take,
05:32 bring them in the box.
05:34 Investigate them.
05:36 Look at their decisions.
05:38 How many cases of Kashif Abbasi were there?
05:40 How many cases of Javed Latif were there?
05:42 And who was putting pressure in that?
05:45 And who was going to be the beneficiary in that?
05:47 If you look at all these things,
05:49 then things will stop after that.
05:51 But it shouldn't stop like this, Kashif.
05:53 But your government, sir,
05:55 what is visible at the moment,
05:57 you are correcting this.
05:59 If you want to correct this country,
06:01 then you have to correct its history.
06:03 Whatever has gone wrong in this,
06:05 until you bring the concept of punishment and reward in this country,
06:08 this country cannot be corrected.
06:10 And I agree with you on this.
06:12 That is why I think that the allegations that Siddiqui sir has put,
06:15 investigate them too.
06:17 Investigate your allegations too.
06:19 Why not make a larger forum,
06:21 which will see how much interference has been there in the courts in the last ten years.
06:24 Who has put pressure,
06:26 the judges should speak.
06:28 And if other people, politicians want to come and say,
06:30 then say.
06:32 But the problem is, sir,
06:34 that it seems that as long as there is morality,
06:36 as long as you are against someone else,
06:38 then we accept it.
06:40 Is all this happening against Imran Khan?
06:42 The cases that are mentioned,
06:44 the cases of six judges,
06:46 sir, it is not like that.
06:48 One second.
06:50 I agree with all your points,
06:52 but listen to one thing.
06:54 You have put pressure on the people,
06:56 without any discrimination,
06:58 that two walls have been of different communities,
07:00 and different communities have been complaining.
07:02 Why do you take out from it,
07:04 that take this out, keep this.
07:06 The reason for this is that the politicians,
07:08 like Khawaja sir's statement,
07:10 that is half statement.
07:12 They point to their opponents.
07:14 You people should also look at your side.
07:16 That when it is against you,
07:18 then you scream, call, say that the court is being unfair.
07:20 When you are with someone else,
07:22 you are the biggest.
07:24 How many programs have you come here,
07:26 and you have said that give punishment on this,
07:28 give punishment on this, punish on Tosha Khana,
07:30 punish on such and such thing,
07:32 which are frivolous cases,
07:34 very weak cases, you have punished on this.
07:36 If you talk about this.
07:38 In your time there was Don Leaks,
07:40 this is the cipher of this time.
07:42 Sir, if you want to fact, then you do it.
07:44 In your time there was Tosha Khana,
07:46 in this time also Tosha Khana.
07:48 Now you,
07:50 you have attacked him also,
07:52 that is also the government,
07:54 the state, judges were driven out of there.
07:56 This happens, but there should be punishment on this.
07:58 But,
08:00 my way of seeing it is,
08:02 that we see that politicians
08:04 stand on their own side of the injustice,
08:06 and stand on the other side of the injustice.
08:08 Wait here,
08:10 I have started requesting that
08:12 the Supreme Court has accused us of
08:14 attacking the case.
08:16 That we have attacked.
08:18 Did Imran Khan
08:20 not attack the courts
08:22 much more than that?
08:24 Did Supreme Court, Lahore High Court
08:26 not attack?
08:28 Did Jibreel Maraad physically attack?
08:30 Yes, absolutely.
08:32 You see, the roofs were seized.
08:34 You see, the walls went inside the plant.
08:36 You see, the armed people
08:38 went and sat.
08:40 You see, the register had to be brought in the car.
08:42 You, one second.
08:44 In the offices of NAB,
08:46 there, one second.
08:48 One second, please.
08:50 I am here, you will give your order.
08:52 I have started requesting you
08:54 that do not see
08:56 what happened
08:58 at Panama and Akama.
09:00 Do not see that the monitoring judge
09:02 was made to sit.
09:04 Do not see that even at that time,
09:06 Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui
09:08 kept knocking on the door of
09:10 the Chief Justice of that time.
09:12 Do not see that
09:14 what he said in the bar room.
09:16 And what?
09:18 Was it not necessary that
09:20 Justice Shaukat Siddiqui
09:22 would be called and told
09:24 that which person
09:26 treated you like this?
09:28 So, today, these six letters were not necessary to be presented.
09:30 And today, I am saying this.
09:32 Six judges, six judges' letters.
09:34 And also, we should see, sir,
09:36 on whose behest, people put up pictures of judges
09:38 and held gatherings, as Mr. Mario Nawaz Sharif did.
09:40 This also does not happen in any country
09:42 where people put up pictures of judges
09:44 and say, "This is him."
09:46 Why? Because we have political differences with them.
09:48 Because we have political differences.
09:50 Why does this happen, Kashif Basri?
09:52 Sir, Shaukat, you have said
09:54 about Mr. Chaudhary.
09:56 No, no, before that,
09:58 when you will call us Sicilian Mafia,
10:00 when you will say your decisions,
10:02 when you will say your judgment against us,
10:04 when you will fulfill the demands of justice
10:06 that you have in your mind,
10:08 Do you know when did I say Sicilian Mafia, Mr. Mian?
10:10 I was present in my own court.
10:12 You were not punished yet.
10:14 No, no, sir. Who was told this?
10:16 Who was told this?
10:18 Was it your Karachi Senator who said
10:20 that they will destroy the land?
10:22 Mr. Hashmi. Mr. Hashmi.
10:24 When he gave a statement in Karachi,
10:26 the Supreme Court took a stance.
10:28 And I remember these words,
10:30 if I am not mistaken.
10:32 One second, Kashif.
10:34 Do you know who used these words?
10:36 Sicilian Mafia used to give such statements to judges.
10:38 One second.
10:40 So, was this statement right?
10:42 That we will destroy the land for your children?
10:44 My brother did not punish him.
10:46 He was not punished.
10:48 He said this in his case.
10:50 No, no, one second.
10:52 He said this in Godfather's case.
10:54 Godfather's case.
10:56 Those words were good.
10:58 If they were good,
11:00 I would say for someone else.
11:02 One second.
11:04 Then tell me,
11:06 who was given the mandate?
11:08 Mr. Imran Khan.
11:10 Who was it?
11:12 Today's judges say
11:14 that there is no Saduq or Rumi.
11:16 There are angels.
11:18 Sorry,
11:20 there is the Prophet (pbuh)
11:22 Tell me,
11:24 that you can do everything to me.
11:26 And you can sit on the throne and say
11:28 that
11:30 write this decision.
11:32 We have an order.
11:34 If there was pressure,
11:36 then you could have resigned.
11:38 If you could not take action,
11:40 what are you doing?
11:42 This is your problem.
11:44 In every statement,
11:46 I can tell you.
11:48 What action did you take?
11:50 You have given Shaukat Siddiqui,
11:52 listen to me.
11:54 Listen to Shaukat Siddiqui.
11:56 Shaukat Siddiqui's
11:58 mention in your speeches,
12:00 in your TV programs,
12:02 in your press conferences,
12:04 you must have done it at least 1000 times.
12:06 You did it today and you do it today.
12:08 What did these judges do?
12:10 When they started getting threats,
12:12 they told their Chief Justice.
12:14 In the last government,
12:16 when Mr. Bandyal met them,
12:18 he was told that
12:20 he can talk to them.
12:22 It is written in these letters.
12:24 You have not read the letter.
12:26 The judges are sitting in tea rooms and talking.
12:28 What else can the judges do?
12:30 They tell their Chief Justice to do something.
12:32 He does not write.
12:34 He has no other option.
12:36 The solution to the problem has come.
12:38 You said that
12:40 Chief Justice Bandyal
12:42 was knocked at the door.
12:44 He met them at that time.
12:46 He was present at the meeting.
12:48 It is written in the letter.
12:50 He is the Chief Justice
12:52 who is saying good to see you
12:54 to the accused of 9th and 10th May.
12:56 He was so powerful.
12:58 He is adding two different things.
13:00 He is the same judge
13:02 who told the accused of 9th and 10th May
13:04 that his friends will be with him
13:06 at night.
13:08 He is the same powerful
13:10 Chief Justice
13:12 who left him
13:14 on the second and third day.
13:16 He is the same Chief Justice.
13:18 He is the same Chief Justice.
13:20 You are politicizing this issue.
13:22 You are saying that
13:24 why should the judges resign
13:26 when they have written the letter.
13:28 What kind of argument is this?
13:30 We are under pressure.
13:32 Why should the judges resign?
13:34 Kashif, one second.
13:36 Today, neither you as an anchor
13:38 nor I as a representative
13:40 of any community
13:42 are talking.
13:44 As a Pakistani,
13:46 what is happening to us
13:48 and what will happen to our future generations
13:50 is what we are talking about.
13:52 Please talk.
13:54 Do you think that judges should resign?
13:56 Not at all.
13:58 You just said that if they cannot speak,
14:00 then they should resign.
14:02 You did not understand me.
14:04 I am talking about the five judges of that time.
14:06 I am not talking about the six judges of today.
14:08 I am saying that...
14:10 Your law minister thinks that...
14:12 Sir, what he says,
14:14 he should answer.
14:16 Do you agree with judicial misconduct?
14:18 Sir, please listen to my request.
14:20 If you listen to my request,
14:22 I am not here to score points.
14:24 Neither are you.
14:26 We are on the same boat.
14:28 Let us talk about one thing.
14:30 I am saying that
14:32 the six judges were very brave.
14:34 And they did the right thing.
14:36 They did the right thing.
14:38 So, the law minister should...
14:40 No, no.
14:42 You are the one who did the right thing.
14:44 Please move on.
14:46 I am talking about my attachment.
14:48 I am talking about my attachment.
14:50 I want to ask you...
14:52 Who is the one
14:54 who is pressuring?
14:56 Who is the one who is pressuring?
14:58 And if he has taken a decision
15:00 under pressure,
15:02 what will be the result
15:04 of his letter?
15:06 Number one. Number two.
15:08 Today, you are saying
15:10 that he wrote a letter to Justice Bandyal.
15:12 No, he went to meet him.
15:14 Sorry.
15:16 He went to meet him.
15:18 But he did not get any recognition.
15:20 This is what you want to say, right?
15:22 Well, he was told that
15:24 he will do it.
15:26 And Chief Justice Islamabad High Court
15:28 also told him the same thing.
15:30 And he met Faiz Ishaq separately.
15:32 Senior Court Judge.
15:34 Now, tell me.
15:36 Among those six judges,
15:38 there are some
15:40 who were there
15:42 during the time of Justice Shaukat Siddiqui.
15:44 There are some
15:46 who were there
15:48 during the time of Mariam Nawaz Shiv's case.
15:50 There were some judges
15:52 who were there
15:54 during the time of Nawaz Shiv's case
15:56 who were there.
15:58 And the discussions that used to take place
16:00 and the people who used to
16:02 come and go to the agency
16:04 were there.
16:06 And one second.
16:08 Let me clarify one thing.
16:10 These are judges of the High Court.
16:12 They cannot say anything to the Supreme Court.
16:14 Just like Mian Nawaz Sharif
16:16 can deal with the High Court of Islamabad.
16:18 Just like Mian Nawaz Sharif can deal with the High Court of Islamabad.
16:20 Mian Javel can do nothing.
16:22 Just one second.
16:24 Tell me.
16:26 Among those six judges
16:28 or those five judges,
16:30 tell me.
16:32 Does my conscience arise
16:34 by looking at the environment and time?
16:36 No, not at all.
16:38 Does my conscience arise by looking at the face?
16:40 Does my conscience arise
16:42 by looking at the environment and time?
16:44 Does my conscience arise
16:46 by looking at the time?
16:48 Does my conscience arise
16:50 by looking at the time?
16:52 If my conscience has ever arisen before this,
16:54 then it has arisen today as well.
16:56 And if I did not
16:58 object to Justice Shaukat Siddiqui
17:00 and did not go to his daughter's wedding
17:02 just so that
17:04 no one would get upset.
17:06 Then, my brother,
17:08 if you are
17:10 politicizing yourself
17:12 like this,
17:14 then people will also
17:16 criticize you.
17:18 But, despite this,
17:20 I would like to say one thing.
17:22 Sir, please stop here.
17:24 This means that you should not talk about principles.
17:26 When you feel like it, you give respect to the vote.
17:28 When you feel like it, you delay it.
17:30 Then, do not talk about principles.
17:32 Do not teach the world the principles of PMLN.
17:34 Do not teach any political party.
17:36 Because in this country,
17:38 the people of this country
17:40 have sold their principles
17:42 and their principles
17:44 and have killed their morals.
17:46 Am I right or wrong?
17:48 I am coming to this.
17:50 I am admitting this in front of you.
17:52 In all political parties,
17:54 there are people who are compromised.
17:56 Leadership is compromised.
17:58 Listen to me.
18:00 Our party also has
18:02 people who are compromised.
18:04 And maybe more.
18:06 Maybe that is why
18:08 we have more problems.
18:10 But, if all political forces
18:12 decide
18:14 that they will not
18:16 interfere with principles
18:18 to save their necks,
18:20 then maybe
18:22 no need to talk to 6 judges
18:24 or 5 judges.
18:26 Sir, tell me this.
18:28 When you say that political parties
18:30 should decide, why don't you decide yourself?
18:32 We are doing it.
18:34 The world can do it.
18:36 I remember that time
18:38 when the Supreme Court
18:40 dismissed many people
18:42 on false degrees.
18:44 I remember this
18:46 between 2008 and 2013.
18:48 I don't remember the name.
18:50 They said,
18:52 "I am going in the noon."
18:54 They said, "We will not take you."
18:56 They said, "I will go in the peepers body."
18:58 They said, "Bring 120."
19:00 And we said, "It is good that
19:02 you are not going."
19:04 They came back from London
19:06 with some principles.
19:08 Then, compromises started.
19:10 And now, compromises are there.
19:12 You have delayed it.
19:14 You are the 47th government.
19:16 You know this.
19:18 Listen to me.
19:20 I am saying this
19:22 with great sorrow.
19:24 Whenever elections are held
19:26 or are held,
19:28 when you make
19:30 decisions and
19:32 when you make decisions
19:34 and when you make decisions
19:36 and when you make decisions
19:38 then you say, "The economy will be better."
19:40 Then you say, "The interest rate will be better."
19:42 What is the reason that Javed Latif
19:44 knows that he has lost the election
19:46 but still he is here
19:48 to take oath on the 47th form?
19:50 I am saying that
19:52 if Javed Latif
19:54 has lost the election
19:56 and if he has lost the election
19:58 and if he has lost the election
20:00 and if he has lost the election
20:02 then why is he taking oath on the 47th form?
20:04 Listen to me.
20:06 If
20:08 I have got
20:10 a notification
20:12 of 35 crores
20:14 and if I have got a result
20:16 then in future
20:18 everyone will think
20:20 that I have 35 crores
20:22 and I should move ahead.
20:24 In some cases, it might have happened
20:26 but it has happened.
20:28 You know that
20:30 you have come to the government
20:32 as a minority.
20:34 What kind of morality is this?
20:36 The part where we are
20:38 being beaten
20:40 is that
20:42 when you feel that you have to win
20:44 then your voters
20:46 do not get out of that spirit
20:48 and do not work.
20:50 They do not fight.
20:52 They fight and say
20:54 that I need a leader
20:56 and I will go.
20:58 There is another element.
21:00 He says that you keep giving me
21:02 lollipops of fighting
21:04 and keep telling me that
21:06 this is the journal of destruction of this country
21:08 and we have to get our votes respected.
21:10 This will not happen in future.
21:12 You have made a deal.
21:14 He says that if you have to make a deal
21:16 then why should I vote for you?
21:18 You see that
21:20 three punishments came in one week
21:22 before the elections.
21:24 The punishment started
21:26 when the elections were over.
21:28 This happened in your case too.
21:30 This is what happens.
21:32 This is how the punishment goes.
21:34 This was not like this.
21:36 How can I tell you
21:38 that there were three punishments
21:40 in Evanfield?
21:42 This is the first time
21:44 I am telling you that
21:46 this happened to you too.
21:48 Look at the time.
21:50 It took one and a half year
21:52 for Masoob and one and a half month for him.
21:54 Please compare
21:56 that I am in jail
21:58 for one and a half year
22:00 and someone is in jail for one and a half month
22:02 and he gets relief
22:04 in one and a half month
22:06 and I get relief after one and a half year
22:08 from the same jail.
22:10 How long have you been in jail?
22:12 One second.
22:14 I have been in jail for nine months.
22:16 You know that
22:18 you get relief in one case
22:20 and you get punishment in the other.
22:22 It will take six to eight months.
22:24 It will not take a year.
22:26 I am saying that
22:28 you should listen to my
22:30 appeals after six years.
22:32 Because you are out of the country.
22:34 No.
22:36 The people who were here
22:38 were heard.
22:40 No, sir.
22:42 Four years later.
22:44 Four years later.
22:46 Four years later.
22:48 It did not take four months.
22:50 If the prosecutor of NAB
22:52 says that
22:54 I have no objection
22:56 if the punishment is suspended,
22:58 then I will not be a coward.
23:00 In my case,
23:02 if someone says that
23:04 he is a coward,
23:06 NAB has done the same thing in both cases.
23:08 You get the order and you stand.
23:10 You get the order and you sit.
23:12 You did a great job.
23:14 I wanted to say that
23:16 if you say that
23:18 the prosecutor said in your case
23:20 that he has no objection,
23:22 then I was told that
23:24 the deal has been made.
23:26 Today, the prosecutor of NAB
23:28 is saying that he has no objection
23:30 to the punishment.
23:32 Then the matter is simple.
23:34 This should be discussed.
23:36 I am just saying that
23:38 NAB has taken so many steps
23:40 to get these punishments.
23:42 They should be contested.
23:44 Then Nawaz Sharif said
23:46 that you talk about the journals,
23:48 the establishment,
23:50 the five judges of that time.
23:52 Today, you are not talking.
23:54 I want to say this
23:56 in your service.
23:58 At that time,
24:00 it suited us.
24:02 Now, it does not suit us.
24:04 At that time,
24:06 it was against our politics.
24:08 Now, it supports our politics.
24:10 I am not talking about the politicians.
24:12 I am talking about the voters.
24:14 I am saying that
24:16 for the state,
24:18 for the policy makers,
24:20 for the stakeholders,
24:22 this is a very alarming thing.
24:24 It is a terrifying thing
24:26 that today, no one is looking at the development.
24:28 Today, no one is looking at
24:30 your work.
24:32 Today, everyone is looking
24:34 at who is talking
24:36 about anti-establishment.
24:38 How much sorrow and anger
24:40 is being felt by the people.
24:42 This is the biggest thing.
24:44 You should sit and think.
24:46 Your party should sit and think.
24:48 They have done such a thing
24:50 that we took the journals
24:52 and gave them to him.
24:54 And where are we today?
24:56 We have come 20-30 seats ahead.
24:58 Our compromise
25:00 which was proven wrong today,
25:02 our compromise was
25:04 that if Kashyap Abbasi
25:06 said that I have become
25:08 apolitical, I have made mistakes,
25:10 I will not make mistakes in the future,
25:12 I have trusted you and
25:14 I have moved forward.
25:16 But people did not believe
25:18 him when he believed me.
25:20 It is simple.
25:22 It was not that simple.
25:24 If it was that if you made a mistake,
25:26 then you were forced to accept it.
25:28 I agree with that, but we will not debate it.
25:30 Any politician, a high profile politician
25:32 should give his money trails.
25:34 But that will be a separate debate.
25:36 You say that you will move back.
25:38 We know.
25:40 We know our political opponents.
25:42 We will come and campaign.
25:44 We will win the elections.
25:46 You said no.
25:48 Let him go inside.
25:50 He will go inside.
25:52 You are still demanding that
25:54 he be punished.
25:56 Let him not come out.
25:58 Even today you thought
26:00 and made a deal that
26:02 we will come first.
26:04 You still came third.
26:06 Listen to me.
26:08 I am saying this on note.
26:10 The thing is
26:12 that this must have happened somewhere.
26:14 The process
26:16 by which you punished us
26:18 in a wrong way.
26:20 You punished us wrongly.
26:22 If we
26:24 continue for 10 years,
26:26 then those punishments will not be reversed.
26:28 We will be relieved
26:30 in the same way
26:32 that we were punished
26:34 in the past.
26:36 I understand this.
26:38 One second.
26:40 One second.
26:42 Can I tell you that
26:44 level playing field will be there
26:46 when Imran Khan will be in jail.
26:48 I will tell you.
26:50 I will tell you.
26:52 I will tell you.
26:54 You want to put our opponents inside.
26:56 No, no.
26:58 Level playing field
27:00 will be there
27:02 when people
27:04 are brainwashed
27:06 against us.
27:08 That these thieves are robbers.
27:10 These are not the people of our country.
27:12 These are the people of our country.
27:14 Until you tell people
27:16 about them,
27:18 the brainwashing
27:20 will not end.
27:22 I am sorry.
27:24 The election of 2018
27:26 was after brainwashing.
27:28 Who won the Central Punjab?
27:30 Muslim League Noon.
27:32 Who was in the position of making the government
27:34 in Punjab on the day of the election?
27:36 You were the biggest party.
27:38 You made the free people
27:40 the second government.
27:42 Who won and who lost all the by-elections?
27:44 The Muslim League Noon lost to the sitting government.
27:46 And how proudly did Mariam Nawaz Sahiba say
27:48 that our ticket is running.
27:50 Sir, these things have become old.
27:52 Your party was there.
27:54 You brought yourself here.
27:56 Don't cry for someone else.
27:58 You brought your party here
28:00 because of your decisions.
28:02 This is true, Mr. Kashi Babasaheb.
28:04 Our policy
28:06 which we
28:08 presented our necks
28:10 to the Aadhaars
28:12 to give relief,
28:14 brought the hands
28:16 towards their neck,
28:18 people did not accept that sacrifice.
28:20 People said
28:22 what you said,
28:24 what the establishment
28:26 or the people sitting in the Aadhaars
28:28 have been doing
28:30 with the Pakistani people
28:32 or with the law,
28:34 we do not accept
28:36 who will stand with them.
28:38 This is the reality.
28:40 But tell me,
28:42 did we ever fight for the Muslims?
28:44 No, no, it is absolutely right, sir.
28:46 This is a different debate.
28:48 No, no, Kashi Babasaheb.
28:50 People crossed the line on 9th May
28:52 but did not take their guns out of their homes.
28:54 I had an argument too.
28:56 I had to take a break.
28:58 Give me a sentence.
29:00 You always say
29:02 when you get angry
29:04 that you attacked the Supreme Court.
29:06 I am not angry,
29:08 I just taunt.
29:10 Sometimes,
29:12 you get angry and say
29:14 that on 9th, 10th May,
29:16 no one else did it.
29:18 I have an opinion.
29:20 Look,
29:22 it has its own rules.
29:24 Entering someone's house,
29:26 putting them in danger,
29:28 putting someone's family,
29:30 their loved ones in danger,
29:32 this cannot be acceptable in any country.
29:34 Neither for politics
29:36 nor anything else.
29:38 This is not acceptable.
29:40 No matter what the community is,
29:42 they were treated unjustly,
29:44 they were not given an election,
29:46 you cannot enter anyone's house.
29:48 No, I do not allow it.
29:50 These are the deadlines.
29:52 These are the deadlines of every country
29:54 and every state.
29:56 And Kashif,
29:58 you kept saying that
30:00 our deadline is on 9th, 10th May.
30:02 At the end,
30:04 people are watching.
30:06 The party workers are watching.
30:08 The outsiders are watching.
30:10 What will be left of this moral position?
30:12 The world thinks that
30:14 we are doing this.
30:16 Kashif, one second.
30:18 I have been listening to you
30:20 repeatedly in your programs.
30:22 I am saying this with full responsibility
30:24 that in order to remove
30:26 Nawaz Shiv,
30:28 the Nawaz Shiv government should not be formed.
30:30 Nawaz Shiv was formed.
30:32 What happened in Pakistan,
30:34 the people who did it,
30:36 the people who are involved,
30:38 they did not
30:40 make Nawaz Shiv an enemy.
30:42 They have destroyed
30:44 the state.
30:46 They have destroyed this country.
30:48 Do one thing,
30:50 stand on the floor of the parliament
30:52 and make a demand.
30:54 That my two seats,
30:56 Mansehra and Lahore,
30:58 should be given to the forensic audit.
31:00 I am saying that
31:02 both the rings should be given to the forensic audit.
31:04 One second.
31:06 One second.
31:08 One second.
31:10 You are N-114,
31:12 make it N-115.
31:14 Sir, you cannot have an audit of Afghanistan's seat.
31:16 Then stop it.
31:18 Then you should make a demand to them.
31:20 No, it is the government of Nawaz Shiv.
31:22 My brother is sitting with me.
31:24 One day he will stand on the floor of the assembly
31:26 and say that he is Nawaz Shiv.
31:28 So that these taunts are not given
31:30 that Nawaz Shiv is sitting in the losing assembly.
31:32 Give me these taunts then.
31:34 In 2013, four rings were mentioned repeatedly
31:36 and a protest was organized in 2014.
31:38 But Nawaz Shiv said
31:40 that this is the first incident in the history of Pakistan
31:42 that he made a judicial commission
31:44 on that election
31:46 and made it by authority.
31:48 But despite this,
31:50 no one agreed.
31:52 How will they agree today?
31:54 Tell me.
31:56 So that they do not have any argument in the future.
31:58 After that, the debate on the ring was over in Pakistan.
32:00 It did not happen.
32:02 Sir, I am living in this country.
32:04 You live in this country.
32:06 The judges said that the decision has been made.
32:08 We disagree with it.
32:10 But we will move forward.
32:12 Listen to me.
32:14 Tomorrow, a decision will be made
32:16 with which you will disagree.
32:18 But we will move forward.
32:20 I want to take a break.
32:22 But I want to believe that Mr. Mian should stand up.
32:24 He is my brother.
32:26 He should be forensic.
32:28 Then we should believe that we committed a crime.
32:30 The decision of the judicial commission
32:32 was right.
32:34 We will make a judicial commission.
32:36 Then we will make a decision.
32:38 Why are you giving me conditions?
32:40 You are the government.
32:42 You should have promised me.
32:44 Then you should have said that
32:46 we will make a judicial commission in 2018.
32:48 I want to take a break.
32:50 I want to take a break.
32:52 I will be back after a break.
32:54 Welcome back.
32:56 Mr. Javed Lateef is with us.
32:58 We are talking about
33:00 Mr. Mian's audit.
33:02 You are accused of being
33:04 a government of form 47.
33:06 You were a minority party.
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