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00:00 Good morning everybody, hope you're doing well. It is Stephen Molyneux from the Freedom
00:04 Radio and we are going to answer some questions from the listeners and it is the 5th of February
00:11 2024. Well that's a note to make you burp. All right let's get to these questions.
00:21 What do you think of first amendment auditors, people who film in public areas,
00:26 of government facilities like police stations and post offices? I've been enjoying
00:30 your novel The Present a lot and thinking how long in my small town it will take for the
00:35 government's authority to be ignored by the majority. No I don't think it would be ignored
00:40 but so first amendment auditors, there's a very interesting aspect of the modern world that
00:49 is playing out across the west. You can see it in the states because you're talking first
00:55 amendment we're talking about the US right you can see it's playing out across the state. So
00:58 if you look at the complexity of the criminal system it's really really wild you know just how
01:05 it's incredibly complex. If you have watched sort of courtroom dramas you know the rules of evidence
01:11 and procedure and objection and it's really wildly complex and that complexity could only develop
01:22 in a society where crime was very much the exception. Where criminals were extraordinarily
01:30 rare as a whole and you can listen to my presentation The Truth About the Wild West
01:35 for more on this but crime was extremely rare. Now because crime was extremely rare you could have
01:44 a very complex legal system and there's some real value in that complexity trying to get to the
01:50 truth of things particularly when these legal systems were developed when there wasn't video
01:56 cameras everywhere and DNA evidence and so on right so trying to get to the truth of things
02:00 was quite complex and so jury of your peers legal advocates the rules of evidence chain of custody
02:08 I mean these things are all very complex and they are generally to be reserved for societies
02:18 with low crime rates. Now the problem of course is that when crime rates begin to increase and
02:24 there's a wide variety of reasons for that in a breakdown of the family and there's huge amounts
02:32 of reasons for that increases in child abuse and so on then what happens is you get a system that
02:40 is designed for a small number of people which then has to try to accommodate a much larger
02:48 number of people and the system can't handle it right I mean it's like a country road trying to
02:55 take rush hour LA rush hour traffic right this doesn't doesn't work so then you have to find
03:00 some way to expedite it how do you how do you speed up things in the system and of course what
03:06 generally has happened now is that rules have been relaxed in the states of course the people
03:12 that the police are allowed to lie to you and you're not allowed to lie to the police so that's
03:17 kind of an what do they call it a ruse we use a ruse because ruse sounds a lot a lot better a lot
03:23 nicer I suppose so you allow the police to lie and then you allow the legal system to plea bargain
03:31 right so to say you know we'll give you three years if you plead guilty but if you go to trial
03:40 we're going to try and get 10 years or something like that right so in a sense you bribe people
03:46 with their own time in order to plead guilty and you know some of them are guilty I'm sure
03:51 but it's really hard to know how many because the whole problem of guilt and innocence is really
03:57 tough and complex to work out which is why you have a complex legal system I think in America
04:03 is it only a few percentage points of charges go to trial and again some of that is because
04:09 the people are guilty and plea out but it's really hard to know how many and of course there are a
04:14 lot of people who confess and plea out and then plead out and then they are later exonerated by
04:20 the DNA evidence or some other kind of evidence so the system is inevitably corrupted
04:28 by the corruption of the morals of the people by other systems right so the welfare state breaks
04:36 down the family when the family breaks down and in particular with father absence women I mean
04:45 it's a beautiful part of women how strongly attached and devoted they are to their toddlers
04:50 and babies and little children and so on but there has to come a time and particularly for boys when
04:58 the father gives more strictness and restraint and discipline and the consequences right negative
05:05 consequences and when fathers are absent women tend to again due to this very strong bond which
05:12 is again a beautiful thing in nature and in freedom women tend to excuse and minimize and
05:19 and forgive and enable and so on and then this just catapults particularly boys down this
05:26 tunnel of of criminality to its inevitable end so you have a system which is forced transfer of
05:37 wealth to say single mothers and you know welfare state is not just single mothers but it's largely
05:42 single mothers and you then end up with because you have one bad system which destroys the family
05:50 or undermines the family in many communities then you end up with another system which is
05:56 the criminal justice system losing much of its integrity because it is overwhelmed because
06:03 father absence has led to increased criminality and so on right so this is it's all very complex
06:09 and interconnected and I mean you you can't solve it of course except with foundational
06:14 morals like thou shalt not steal or you be banned on right to have to solve the murder
06:19 you just you can't solve any of it really because so complex and interconnected yeah you can't
06:25 it's like it's like trying to work out one muscle just one muscle one big bicep or something like
06:31 that well even if you were to do that and you end up with one big bicep it still affected everything
06:36 else in your body right heart has to work harder blood flow has to improve and so on so the reason
06:43 that I'm saying all of this is that one system tends to corrupt another system in in this sort of
06:51 oligarchical environment right one system tends to so the reason I'm so what do I think of first
06:58 amendment auditors well I am talking about this because the first amendment was developed when
07:05 lying and we just talk about sort of defamation and free speech as far as that's going
07:11 lying lying really wasn't that profitable lying really wasn't that profitable and because lying
07:19 wasn't that profitable when the first amendment was founded you could have these laws and you
07:25 could expect a relatively speedy resolution of course this is the other issue too is that in
07:31 America and of course in a lot of other places you have a concept we have a legal or in America
07:35 constitutional right to a speedy trial but a speedy trial it's like having a right to a speedy
07:42 commute when it's down to one lane right you can have a right in a sense but it's not really
07:48 practical so people have a right to a speedy trial but because the system is so clogged
07:56 and of course as the system is clogged and trials are delayed what was it Michael Mann and suing
08:02 Mark Stein for Mark Stein's comments on the hockey stick graph and it's been 12 years now I'm sure
08:08 some of that's been delays that may be conscious but some of it is delays just in the procedure
08:14 right so of course over that time I think some of the key witnesses have died and you know if you
08:19 don't get a trial for a couple of years then people have moved away they've forgotten stuff
08:23 and chain of custody has gotten hazy some evidence might have scattered I mean it's
08:27 videos have been erased like all that kind of stuff it's just it's crazy right so in the first
08:34 amendment times like when America was founded the constitution was founded lying was not
08:42 very profitable lying was not very profitable but as the government begins to control more and more
08:53 wealth then falsehoods can become more and more profitable and I'm not going to get into any
09:00 specifics because the general principle is so clear that I don't think we need examples but
09:07 not telling the truth falsifying things falsifying data falsifying reports you know falsify that's
09:14 just lying just become so massively profitable I mean you can see this of course all the time
09:22 in election season and this happens on both sides of the aisle in the left and the right
09:28 there are just falsehoods that are spread because winning the election has such massive
09:36 consequences I mean you know I think prior to the income tax prior to all of these regulations and
09:42 prior to all the sort of hyper intrusive government stuff that goes on if you live
09:47 in a rural farm in I don't know Montana or Pennsylvania in 1830 do you really care
09:55 who's in power in Washington thousands of miles away they don't really have any power to
10:01 enforce anything there's no property tax no sales tax no income tax I mean it doesn't doesn't really
10:07 matter and so you're not going to be tempted oh you may be tempted but you're probably not going
10:12 to spend much effort roaming around and making up things and and so on falsifying data or evidence
10:21 or whatever right I mean you know the theory that the vaccine for COVID was delayed until
10:28 after the election that it might have been ready earlier but they wanted to they didn't want to
10:33 give Trump the victory right I mean there's sort of a theory I don't know if it's ever been
10:36 really established but I mean that would be pretty pretty bad if it were true or good I guess
10:43 depending on what you think of the vaccines but that stuff is is enormously tempting because
10:50 the election controls trillions of dollars trillions and trillions of dollars right so
10:58 the first amendment is the right of obviously the free speech and when free speech doesn't control
11:05 that much like there's not that much money that free speech can control through through politics
11:12 then I think you know free speech yeah it makes sense right the problem is of course when free
11:19 speech and in particular with the internet right free speech plus the internet has the opportunity
11:24 to sway elections and people don't like that they don't like the the political party they
11:31 consider nefarious right they don't like that political party to get into power so
11:36 they're not happy with free speech because free speech now has the ability or the potential
11:44 to control trillions of dollars now I mean some people will kill for 50 bucks
11:52 right so so will people suppress free speech for the sake of I mean it's not just the money right
11:59 this is the moral crusade you know like if if your political opponents are the worst people known to
12:06 man and will destroy your whatever whatever right then you have the money you have the
12:10 moral mission and so on right and of course a lot of people's lives I'm going to do a whole show on
12:17 this separately like a lot of people's lives are really really tragically bereft of meaning
12:24 a lot of people's lives are really really tragically bereft of meaning and when you
12:31 don't have meaning which is a central moral purpose to your life when you don't have meaning
12:37 you tend to get swallowed up by ideology and ideology doesn't give you morality it gives you
12:45 hysteria and hysteria where the stakes are raised artificially high hysteria gives you purpose and
12:57 the purpose is largely fake but the sense of meaning is real like you know that famous woman
13:05 who when trump was inaugurated was somewhere I think in Washington just screamed no
13:10 I just screaming no well that's kind of a hysteria right so when people don't have meaning then they
13:19 are easy to and with ease a lot of time comes a lack of meaning right I mean for me I'll be happy
13:29 when children in the world aren't abused right I'll be happy and that's a multi-generational
13:36 project at best right could be hundreds of years probably will be at least so I'm not short of
13:45 meaning and purpose when people accept the non-aggression principle and respect property
13:50 rights and understand UPB and so on but again UPB is only 15 years old which is like nothing
13:57 in the history of philosophy that goes back thousands and thousands of years and if we
14:01 count pre-history I'm sure people were thinking about the meaning of life 25,000 years ago 15
14:06 years is like nothing and particularly for such a radical advance in the philosophy of morality
14:15 so I'm you know I'm I know I'm going to die with my life's goals vastly incomplete which is a good
14:26 thing it means that you have very big goals and a very big purpose and that will summon the very
14:32 best within you like I was I was always struck by those stories of moms who can lift cars if the
14:39 cars happen to be happen to have landed on their kids or the sort of kids are stuck under the car
14:45 they could lift a car now I mean I'm sure that's not entirely true but I'm sure there are pretty
14:49 negative physical consequences to doing that even if it is true but people can do extraordinary
14:53 things when the stakes are high enough so for me the extraordinary things that I have done
15:01 and that I feel I do every day even this conversation to me is an extraordinary
15:05 clarifying conversation so people who do extraordinary things do so because the stakes
15:12 are high now of course I talked about the stakes being high in ideology in terms of hysteria but
15:18 stakes are real the stakes are true the stakes are empirical and valid and all of that here
15:24 in what I'm doing right it's not oh Trump called Trump called Nazis very fine people
15:32 all made up nonsense right so the purpose of a lot of ideology in the past has been to achieve
15:40 material satisfaction purpose let me see the purpose of a lot of belief systems in the past
15:46 have been to achieve material satisfaction so I remember it was Sam Neill in the old Jane Campion
15:54 movie called the piano where the woman wants to play piano but they're stuck in this desperate
16:01 land it's in New Zealand or something like that and he says everybody needs to do their part
16:07 everybody needs to pull their weight and this idea that you kind of got to get up and work around the
16:12 farm and help and and so on is really important right loyalty to the family and work hard at
16:19 all of that and protestant work ethic although of course it's not like Catholics don't work hard
16:23 but it really became a very foundational belief system particularly I mean certainly it would be
16:30 the case in in farming communities but I mean also hunter-gatherers you're going to come and
16:35 help with the hunt and so all of this belief system was about providing material comfort
16:41 material satiety right or in the Amish everybody's going to come and help raise the barn so that way
16:46 you get a barn out of it right so these belief systems were around survival that loyalty and
16:55 community and hard work and all of that what's that it's a pretty funny movie with Kirstie
17:02 Alley and Tim Allen where they end up in this Amish community and what are the Amish guys
17:12 gets up and rings his bell or something like that and he's like it's 4 30 in the morning we have to
17:19 get up and he's like Tim Allen he's very funny he's like is it 4 30 I must have overslept
17:27 half my life is that so it's very it's very funny movie I can't remember what it's called but
17:33 I think I watched it twice it's one of the few movies I've watched multiple times
17:36 and they're you know get up early milk the cows and all of that that's for to to to survive right
17:45 so because most human belief systems have evolved to adapt to survival right what what happens when
17:54 survival needs are meet and met and exceeded well belief systems discipline ideology morality it all
18:03 collapses right I mean if some guy is is desperately swimming to reach the shore what
18:09 happens when he reaches the shore well he stops swimming and he collapses and so what happens is
18:14 of course a society is business the you know good times create soft men soft men create hard times
18:20 hard times create strong men strong men create good times and the basic thing is that you you
18:26 have all of this discipline and these belief systems and these morals and people look at that
18:31 with great admiration you know that that shaggy geord side combs nordic guy in the memes people
18:39 look at that and it's like wow that was a really strong discipline time but the discipline came
18:44 from necessity right ideology belief systems morals loyalty like all of the virtues throughout
18:51 human history they have not arrived for reason it was not that wasn't upb so what did they arrive
18:57 from they arrive from necessity and so necessity builds wealth right the ideology of necessity
19:06 builds wealth and then the wealth is used by the state as collateral to borrow money and then the
19:15 money is given to people and the meaning that they got from their belief system collapses because
19:23 their belief system was only necessary in a state of scarcity when they live in a state of plenty
19:28 particularly unearned plenty their belief systems collapse and then because their belief systems
19:35 collapse they lose meaning which means they're further susceptible to ideology their morals get
19:40 corrupted because now they're simply praising the hand that feeds them rather than having any
19:44 objective sense of ethics and they're also living through centralized coercion off the sweat blood
19:49 tears and toil of others and then they fall to hedonism right this is sort of roman's argument
19:55 in my novel the future which you should really check out if you haven't freedom.com books
20:01 so beliefs morals meaning purpose they all arise from brute physical necessity when you have a
20:13 society with any excess wealth in a state and the state controls the currency then the state will
20:18 simply inflate the currency bribe the people which causes them to lose their meaning of course this
20:24 is happening in the present as well they lose their meaning now also when they lose their meaning
20:29 well we have to have some way to organize our life some way to like what am i going to do with my day
20:34 now of course if you are working well a good chunk of your day is organized well according to that of
20:40 course but for the people who are not working or the people who have unearned wealth and you know
20:46 it's really really important to remember that the average person on welfare lives infinitely better
20:50 than the richest person even 100 years ago they are the ultimate aristocracy in history right
21:00 because they have access to modern technology and health care and dentistry and food varieties and
21:07 fridges and right so if they have access to these things they have these things so there's no sane
21:14 king from a century ago who would not choose to change his place with somebody ensconced in the
21:21 welfare state in the modern west so what happens then is that people don't organize themselves
21:30 over the satisfaction of necessary wants which is you know food and shelter and enough food for the
21:38 winter and survival and so on so people no longer organize themselves according to necessary needs
21:44 they now organize themselves around unnecessary needs so you know the fight over status items
21:54 like i don't know sneakers or whatever they get very excited over beating a video game they
22:02 pursue sexual conquests they eat too much right so now this is a satisfaction of unnecessary needs
22:09 in other words they turn from the discipline and strictness of scarcity to the hedonism
22:17 of plenty hedonism of plenty they turn from serving their needs to serving their pleasures
22:29 and hedonism is not a philosophy hedonism is emotionalism i have i need i want and the service
22:40 of emotion the service of need hedonism is really diametrically opposed to philosophy
22:48 in the same way that gluttony is opposed to nutrition gluttony is just eating whatever
22:57 you feel like any time you want and if gluttony is true and it's a valid and fine approach to life
23:03 then nutrition is a false science and a lie and a unnecessary deprivation but of course we all
23:09 know that's not true so you don't need discipline if you're simply going to follow your pleasures
23:14 you don't need free will it really is a concept if you're just going to follow your pleasures
23:18 because once you are hedonism once you're a hedonist then you simply follow your pleasures
23:26 and that's your only guidepost you don't need any self-restraint you don't need any philosophy
23:33 do what thou will shall be the whole of the law right this is sort of the satanism thing right
23:38 do what you want though it doesn't harm others is people just tack that on like that's just
23:43 something you can control like yeah you can eat whatever you want it's not going to harm others
23:49 well of course it's going to harm others right if you're if you're a glutton it harms others
23:53 i mean you drive up the price of food which harms the poor you are ill and unwell which makes those
24:01 around you care about you unhappy you consume an unnecessary excess of health care resources
24:08 i mean and clothing to some degree right clothing fabric and so you are making you are harming the
24:16 interests of others and so the idea that hedonism is the lie that we can pursue our own pleasures
24:23 without harming others that means false right it's fundamentally false because pleasures are
24:31 selfish and if you're only pursuing that which gives you immediate sense pleasure right i'm not
24:37 talking about like love is a great joy parenting is a great joy so but you're not just pursuing
24:42 your own immediate sense pleasures so but if you're pursuing your own immediate sense pleasures
24:45 other people do it by definition are not included in your calculations or if they are like if you're
24:50 a sex addict then they're only included in your calculations insofar as they serve you as an empty
24:55 physical object rather than a person with a mind and the spirit of the soul and and so on right
25:00 so this problem with excess leading to decadence like we all know we only i'm just sort of
25:09 explaining why why this happens right because we all know oh late roman empire so decadent
25:13 and vomitoriums and and so on and orgies right sorry but then vomitoriums and orgies are
25:19 are hedonism and hedonism is what arises when the strictness of your discipline has been rendered
25:28 pointless by an excess of resources nobody goes hunting when they've just brought home a deer
25:36 right i mean can you imagine because i mean especially in the past you couldn't store
25:41 things so you had to keep working right right you just bring home a giant deer which is enough for
25:47 your tribe to feast on for a couple of days you don't immediately go back out and start hunting
25:52 again now what do you do when you bring home the deer everybody knows right what do you do when you
25:57 bring home the deer you party right you you roast it up you dance you cheer you praise the gods you
26:04 if you had alcohol i guess you do that or a huasca or something like that right you choose some funky
26:10 leaves from the jungle and you party right so the excess leads to the hedonism you don't need
26:16 discipline when you have excess and when you bring home a deer to your tribe you have an excess
26:21 so when you have what you perceive to be a permanent excess well the decadence which is the
26:31 your life being organized by pleasure rather than principle of sense pleasure right not sort of
26:37 sophisticated pleasures right love and to some degree self-sacrifice and one of the things that
26:46 one of the reasons that parents used to bond with their kids right people used to bond with
26:51 their kids because they needed that bond in order to survive their old age to have their children
26:55 love and and care for them and so on and so and this was more true of women than men because women
27:03 generally lived longer i mean if they made it to old age right if they didn't die in childbirth or
27:07 something so women would devote more to children because they would require more devotion from
27:13 their children when they got old but of course once you get the forced transfer of wealth from
27:19 the young to the old in the form of pensions and health care and so on dental care then you don't
27:25 need to bond with your children as much right so the principles were all derived out of necessity
27:31 when the necessity is lifted through forced redistribution the morals all vanish as well
27:38 so you see one system corrupts another system right if you don't gain your resources through
27:46 the respect of property rights which is what happens in a trading society or an agricultural
27:53 society or a hunting society even a hunting society would get its resources based on property
28:00 rights in that there would be an understanding of the hunters bringing home the kill and then
28:05 sharing the meat that would everybody would know that they would get that so there would be property
28:09 rights established in that way of course farming doesn't work at all without property rights for
28:13 land because there's no point clearing and planting if you can't keep the products of your land of
28:18 course a free market system definitely relies on property rights so the property rights are respected
28:26 because that's how you survive but if you survive on forced redistribution then you are surviving on
28:34 the opposite of property rights you are surviving on violations of property rights and so property
28:40 rights as a concept then become a threat they become like a predator and they become a threat
28:44 to that which you perceive you need to survive so to reel it back in i know we've we've we've had a
28:52 little bit of a journey here but to reel it back in first amendment auditors go around recording
28:58 stuff and well the question is why are they necessary why are they necessary why is looking
29:05 at what might have happened between governments and social media companies in the run-up to
29:11 elections like why is that important because the stakes have become so high in terms of
29:19 money and power and prestige and status the stakes have become so high that morality
29:28 really can't survive the stakes have become so high and the redistribution has become so immense
29:34 that morality really can't survive you know it's like a wall that can handle the regular ocean but
29:41 a tsunami washes it away right when the stakes get so high when the water gets so high the defenses
29:47 become somewhat irrelevant so you know to work is a is a good thing but if you are a mom with two
29:58 kids and no husband who provides and you're on the welfare state then to work until you make
30:05 more than a hundred thousand dollars a year to work taxes you at a rate of 100 percent
30:13 now people respond to incentives foundation I mean of course of course right we wouldn't be here if
30:18 people didn't respond to incentives I mean one of the incentives people respond to is the sex drive
30:23 and and so on and the desire to procreate which you know comes a little bit like an afterthought
30:27 sometimes but we wouldn't be here if people didn't respond to incentives lust and hormones is an
30:32 incentive and that's sort of why we're here so yeah people respond to incentives and you can say
30:38 well it's good to work but less time with your children less time enjoying your life and being
30:44 taxed at a rate of 100 percent until you make over a hundred thousand dollars and then you're being
30:51 taxed as if you're making more when you're functionally making only a little bit like if
30:56 you make a hundred and ten thousand dollars a year well I mean you're being taxed at a hundred and
31:01 ten thousand dollars but functionally and effectively because the welfare state gives
31:05 you like a hundred grand a year if you have two kids in some places I mean in terms of like net
31:09 benefits all all in right including the cost of child care if you're working so you're being taxed
31:16 at a hundred and ten thousand dollar rate but you're only making ten thousand dollars and if
31:20 you work that out and down to hourly after taxes it's it's pennies making pennies an hour working
31:25 very hard and not seeing your kids you say ah yes but it's the responsible blah blah it's like
31:30 you know but that's like going to the soviet worker under Stalin and saying well you should
31:35 just work hard it's the right thing to do and blah blah and of course there was lots of propaganda
31:38 about that but it generally didn't really happen it generally didn't really happen I mean we know
31:43 this as well I mean it was in California they changed the rules about unemployment insurance
31:48 or welfare and people just got jobs or you know if you have a year of unemployment insurance
31:55 generally people only start looking for work at around 11 months I mean for real right so yeah
32:00 people respond to incentives and we can complain about that but I don't really know what the point
32:04 is since we're only here because people respond to incentives and nature knows that we respond
32:08 to incentives which is why she gives us lust and greed and you know things that in moderation are
32:14 positive and healthy and helpful people respond to incentives you understand like
32:19 if you if you complain about that then you're complaining about being alive right so one of
32:25 the reasons we drink a glass of water is because we're thirsty we're responding to the incentive
32:30 the incentive being I'm thirsty and I'm uncomfortable because I'm thirsty I'll be
32:34 more comfortable if I have something to drink right so even even at that level we respond
32:40 to incentives right so so the first amendment order is the question is why do we need them well
32:48 because falsehood has become so profitable that it has changed from lying to others to lying to
32:56 oneself or lying to others to lying to oneself and that's a tough situation when people are lying to
33:04 themselves philosophy can't reach them philosophy can't reach them if somebody genuinely doesn't
33:12 believe that he has a problem a solution can't reach him right I mean I'm happily married I don't
33:21 have a problem called I can't find the right dating app or I can't meet somebody new to date I don't
33:28 have that problem so if somebody says to me Steph I can find you the right dating app I'd be like
33:34 what are you talking about happily married I want a dating app so if somebody doesn't have a problem
33:39 or doesn't believe he has a problem the solution can't touch him right beyond the realm of
33:43 philosophy which is why praising people for dysfunction has become the norm because when
33:47 you praise people for dysfunction you place them beyond the reach of improvement of virtue
33:52 of philosophy you give them the plenty of praise so they don't require the discipline of improvement
33:58 oh some of those phrases are just great aren't they pop into my head roll off my tongue
34:03 amazing so rather than say is it good to do this or that you have to look at how the
34:11 interactions between the systems corrupt just about everything so why is the first amendment
34:19 having such trouble these days or free speech because it was designed for a time when lying
34:27 wasn't nearly as profitable and now that lying has become profitable profitable to the tune of
34:33 trillions of dollars free speech is really designed to uncover falsehoods right this is
34:38 the value of free speech is to uncover falsehoods and when a society is profiting from lies
34:45 free speech becomes the enemy right you can see this the elites coming out of American universities
34:52 are almost uniformly of the opinion that there's way too much freedom and free speech in America
34:56 right so and that's because they plan to join a system that profits from falsehood and therefore
35:01 free speech I mean many of them not all right but they plan to join a system that profits from
35:06 falsehood and therefore free speech therefore free speech is going to interfere significantly with
35:11 their interests some it's a great question I hope that the answer is at least the these are
35:18 outlines of an answer this is not sort of syllogistically worked out with footnotes but
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