LIVE Patriots Daily: Talking Potential Top Picks for Patriots

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In this week's Patriots Daily College Show, hosted by CLNS Media, Taylor Kyles is joined by Alex Barth from 98.5 The Sports Hub. They delve into the potential top draft picks for the Patriots this year, spotlighting notable college players. The discussion includes Heisman Trophy Winner and LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels, UNC quarterback Drake Maye, and Notre Dame tackle Joe Alt. These players are highlighted for their impressive performances and potential fit with the Patriots.  This episode of the Patriots Daily Podcast Show  is brought to you by:  SeatGeek! Use code DREAMERSPRO for $20 off your first SeatGeek order! Visit SeatGeek.com ! With NFL, NBA and NHL seasons in full swing you don’t want to miss out - SeatGeek has your tickets to every game!  FanDuel Sportsbook, the exclusive wagering parter of the CLNS Media NetworkRight now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! So, visit https://FanDuel.com/BOSTON and kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, Official Partner of the NFL. 21+ and present in MA. Hope is here. First online real money wager only. $5 pregame moneyline wager required. First onlinereal money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. GamblingHelpLineMa.org or call (800)-327-5050 for 24/7 support. Play it smart from the start! GameSenseMA.com or call 1-800-GAM-1234. ￼￼  Visit https://Linkedin.com/BEAT to post your first job for free! LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the candidates you want to talk to, faster. Did you know every week, nearly 40 million job seekers visit LinkedIn.￼￼￼  Factor! Visit https://factormeals.com/PATSDAILY50 to get 50% off your first box! Factor is America’s #1 Ready-To-Eat Meal Kit, can help you fuel up fast with ready-to-eat meals delivered straight to your door.

Transcript

00:00 best day of the week. It's the draft show where we recap what's going on with a bunch of the

00:05 players who are going to be available or most likely be available when it comes time for the

00:09 Patriots to draft. While the team is coming off one of the few wins that we've seen in quite some

00:14 time, the draft is still highly relevant as they were actually just officially eliminated New

00:19 England from playoff contention after the uh it was the Bengals beat the Colts. So time to talk

00:26 draft season and there's been some news since our last show. But before we get into that,

00:32 first I want to tell you that this show is brought to you by our friends at Draft King

00:36 or I'm sorry uh my gosh I'm like right now at FanDuel and at uh SeatGeek. We've got so many

00:44 great sponsors at this show it's hard to keep track but you're going to hear from them later.

00:47 Right now I want to hear from you Alex, how have you been since our last show and what are you

00:52 excited to talk about today? Good I'm excited to talk about a lot. Obviously we'll get to some of

00:56 our favorite quarterback prospects and then start to get into some of the non-quarterback talk

01:00 because yes we all know the Patriots need a quarterback. I personally would like to see

01:05 them use that top pick on a quarterback but I do think that there's conversation worth having about

01:10 a couple of other players not just Marvin Harrison Jr. but a couple of other players with that top

01:15 pick if they don't get go uh go quarterback. One of those players officially declared for the draft

01:19 today so I'm looking forward to discussing him a little bit too. Yep before we get to him we got

01:24 to get to the Heisman winner Jaden Daniels our guy won the award. You just wrote a piece detailing

01:31 what effect that might have on his draft status. I don't want you to give too too much away because

01:35 I want people to go over to uh is it on which website is it on? 98.5 sports hub.com. 98.5 I

01:42 want to make sure that people go over there and read all your good stuff but let us know what you

01:47 can and how you do think that him winning the Heisman will affect potentially his draft status.

01:52 Yeah so so look admittedly it's a little bit of a catch uh eye catch headline.

01:56 Not so much how it affects it but just the historical context of it.

02:00 You look at recent Heisman winners and and I have to pull the list up to make sure I don't

02:06 miss anybody but pretty much every Heisman winning so we're just talking quarterbacks

02:10 here. Devontae Smith when he won the Heisman he he went 10th but we all know quarterbacks

02:14 are quarterbacks they're different. There's really two NFL drafts. There's the quarterback draft and

02:19 then there's that kind of intertwines with the regular draft. Caleb Williams won it last year.

02:26 He's going to go 1-1. Bryce Young was a Heisman winner. He went 1-1. Joe Burrow won it went 1-1.

02:32 Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield. The last Heisman winner to not go 1-1 was Lamar Jackson in 2018.

02:40 Now Lamar didn't win the Heisman the year he got drafted. He won it as a freshman in 2016.

02:46 He was drafted in 2018. Keep going back further. The last quarterback to win the Heisman and not

02:52 go first his Heisman year was Marcus Mariota. He went second. Not that much of a drop for him.

02:58 That was in 2014. You go further back. Johnny Manziel went 22nd but that was two years after

03:05 he won the Heisman. A couple other guys went later on. Tim Tebow went later on.

03:11 The last quarterback to win the Heisman in his draft year and not go top two

03:16 was Troy Smith all the way back in 2006. I don't even know who that is. I don't know who Troy Smith

03:24 is. He went 174th. He was drafted by the Ravens. He hung around the league for like two or three

03:29 years as a backup. He was a college quarterback. He was kind of at the peak where the college game

03:35 had evolved but the NFL game hadn't caught up yet. His skill set just wasn't going to transfer.

03:41 He was a little too ahead of his time. I say this to say, okay, so it's been

03:49 15 years since a Heisman quarterback in his draft year, when his Heisman year and draft year are the

03:57 same year. It's been 15 years since a Heisman quarterback didn't go first or second overall.

04:02 Does that lock Jaden Daniels into the first or second pick? No. But this is the kind of

04:08 thing teams look at. It is a resume builder. I think that when you talk about Jaden Daniels,

04:15 we are talking about probably a top five, if not top 10, a top 10, if not top five pick.

04:21 You're not talking about a guy you're going to sneak in at the end of the first round because

04:24 a lot of these other players probably weren't top two picks. Their status was elevated by winning

04:31 this award. I certainly think it's notable and it tells us that the football people,

04:37 because this is voted on by former Heisman winners, people who know the game, the football

04:43 people hold Jaden Daniels in the same esteem that guys like Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield,

04:51 Marcus Mariota were held. I know that there's some variance there in the kind of player,

04:55 but they all were viewed the same on draft night. That's where the relevance is to me,

05:00 that this whole thing about, oh, you trade down to 15, you take Jaden Daniels,

05:05 add assets elsewhere. That's not happening. Not anymore. He is no longer a sleeper candidate.

05:11 This is a Jaden Daniels has become a premium blue chip quarterback prospect. Is he in the

05:18 same tier as Caleb Williams or even Drake May? Maybe not. Can he get there? We'll see,

05:22 but he's not like, you don't get to sound cool anymore saying, yeah, Caleb Williams and Drake

05:28 May are great, but have you heard about Jaden Daniels? He's risen well beyond that.

05:33 - I'm disappointed. That's been my whole shtick like this entire time. So now I got to find a new

05:38 one. - It happens when you cover the draft. I don't know how many guys, I'll tell you one. I'll

05:43 tell you one of mine two years ago, I'm doing Patriots beat with Evan Lazar. And this is when

05:48 the Patriots were, they had already drafted Mack Jones and they had that promising year. And it

05:53 was like, all right, just like, where can they kind of fill in the roster? And there's this

05:56 defensive tackle from Georgia. That was like a fringe first round pick. And I keep telling Evan,

06:01 I'm like, and the Patriots pick at 21st that year. And everybody was like, oh,

06:05 take him 21st. It would be this great kind of thing. And I'm like, we can talk about it all

06:09 you want. He's not going to be there. And I remember the night before we're doing the night

06:13 to show before the combine. And Evan says, what are you looking forward to tonight? And I said,

06:17 I'm looking forward to Jordan Davis, 340 pound Jordan Davis running a sub 540. And Evan goes,

06:24 all right, you need to get off the Jordan Davis stuff. Stop it now. Next, you know, a few hours

06:28 later, Jordan Davis, the consensus top 10 picks. So it happened like, this is part of the fun of

06:33 draft season. Sometimes your sleepers stay your sleepers and you hit on them. That was pop Douglas

06:37 for me last year. But then sometimes you think you found the guy and then everybody else finds

06:42 him and suddenly he's not your guy anymore. He's just a guy. It's really funny. Cause I remember I

06:47 was with the NFL network at the time that I think before Jordan Davis actually coming out and

06:53 literally after his combine performance, everyone was just going like, I'm in the research department

06:57 and people were going crazy. Like what superhero cop can you think of for him? Cause I think they

07:02 showed on screen. It's like, he's got this for the Hulk and all that stuff. Literally his day was so

07:07 insane that we were just like, all right, you gotta find something like not humid to compare him to.

07:11 But yeah, now that I remember saying, yeah, no, just on Jordan Davis. I remember cause you'll

07:19 appreciate this. Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork's body. Yeah. Yeah. That's honestly

07:26 the perfect, which is just horrifying to think of in one human body. And now that the season's

07:31 actually over and we've got a, not for everybody, but for the guys that we're going to talk about

07:35 today, I think it's time that we actually start looking into their scouting reports. Now, once

07:39 the season ends, that's when we'll have more time to get into the film, looking at the nitty gritty

07:43 and see for ourselves from an analytical standpoint. All right. What do these guys bring?

07:47 Where are their deficiencies, et cetera, et cetera. But for now, we're going to take a look

07:51 at bleach report for some of these guys, scouting reports, just get a feel for what

07:55 some of the best eyes who are in this business have to say about them. This one was written by

08:00 friend of the show, Derek class. And he does fantastic work. One of the best QB evaluators

08:06 for my money in the game. So height, obviously six, four good height, weight to tame. You'd

08:11 like to see that we've discussed to get up to like two 15 by the time of the combine

08:15 positives, elite athleticism, excellent burst agility and speed for the position.

08:21 We all know that like there's really not a quarterback in this class that really holds

08:25 a candle to Jane Daniels when it comes to athleticism, above average pocket management

08:30 and toughness, things that you would hope to see from a fifth year starter above average process

08:35 within the pocket ties, his feet to his eyes to remain in a throwing position late in the

08:39 progression. Obviously that's key because if you've got to make a split second decision,

08:43 you want to see these guys as the report says, get in the position to get that ball out quickly

08:47 and capitalize on those windows. Good ability to create dangerous runner with sparse flashes

08:52 of creativity as a thrower outside of the pocket. Now, sparse, there is a key word. Cause you talk

08:57 about a guy like Caleb Williams and Drake may are the same kinds of athletes, but I do think

09:02 their creativity from what I've seen outside of the pocket and their ability to like, Oh crap,

09:06 he's outside something crazy might happen here. I think you see it more with those kinds of guys.

09:10 And then the final positive is very good. Deep ball accuracy consistently drops it in the bucket.

09:16 And we see that all the time with Jaden Daniels throwing those fade routes where just the tiniest

09:21 of windows he's able to fit it into Alex, any thoughts on the positives where we get into the

09:25 negatives? Yeah, well, some of them tie together. So I'll kind of save an overarching point, but I

09:31 would say he's pretty much got it. And I think that that pocket awareness, people see Jane Daniels

09:36 and look, he's a guy with four, four speed and he looks faster than that. He he's got, you know,

09:40 long legs, long strides kind of reminds me when, when Colin Kaepernick would like take off down

09:45 the sideline and it just looked like he was floating. Like Jane Daniels kind of, he's got

09:50 that track, you know, not just track speed, but like he runs like a track runner. He doesn't run

09:55 like a football player. Uh, so I think in all that people lose sight of maybe not just his short area

10:01 quickness, but his ability to move within the pocket without running, to just kind of move his

10:05 feet, reset himself and still look downfield to throw. Don't pin him in. It's just a running

10:10 quarterback. He can run, but this is what sets Jane Daniels apart. There's a lot of quarterbacks

10:15 in college nowadays with four, four speed who can just take off and can make dazzling plays

10:20 with their legs. What sets a guy like Jane Daniels apart is that's not his primary threat. It's a

10:26 threat, but it's not his primary threat. It's not his first instinct. His first instinct is still

10:30 still to throw. And that's what makes him different. And that was what excited me because

10:34 when you have a quarterback with that kind of athleticism, who doesn't use it as a crutch,

10:38 but uses it as a positive and to get them out of trouble, that's what excites you because

10:42 we see it all the time. The best quarterbacks are usually the ones who can extend plays in

10:46 one way or another. And when you can just take it yourself, like Lamar Jackson, I think they said he

10:50 scrambled more, um, and the game against the Rams than he has in years. Yeah. Sometimes that's a

10:55 nice thing to have in your back pocket where Lamar isn't trying to necessarily be the dynamic runner

11:00 that he is because he wants to be a pocket passer and preserve his career. But at the same time,

11:04 if you can do it in a defense, can't stop it. That's a pretty terrifying thing that a defense

11:08 obviously always has to prepare for. It's a great plan B. It's a little worrying when it's plan A.

11:13 Perfectly put perfectly put negatives skinny frame with a reckless abandoned as a ball carrier

11:19 opens them up. So up to future injury. We've talked about that ad nauseam. That's not a

11:23 surprise to people who've been following the show. Mediocre velocity can sometimes struggle

11:28 diet, driving the ball into tight windows. Now this is one where people talk about arm town and

11:34 arm strength, arm strength. Isn't all encompassing. It's just, Oh, it's Josh Allen throwing an 80

11:39 yard bomb. Sometimes it's just, okay, you're throwing it out from the far hash. Can you get it

11:46 into that window? Even though there's a defender in the receiver's hip pocket, or sometimes if

11:51 you're a little late on those timing throws that arm strength, like we see it again with Josh Allen

11:54 all the time, or even if he's not on time or if the coverage is perfect, you can still get it in

12:00 before the defender has a chance to make a play on the ball. So not the same as just dropping a

12:05 pass into a deep window. It's also just being able to get it in there on short intermediate rows.

12:11 So inconsistent accuracy to the short and intermediate area, especially if not throwing

12:16 on time again, that's where that velocity can pop up. And then we're just going to scroll.

12:20 If you want to see the full breakdown again, Derek friend of the show, make sure to check it out,

12:24 but looking at his grade, he got a 7.4, which is a high level backup or a potential starter,

12:29 which is third round value. So we are talking right now about Jane Daniels as someone who's

12:34 gotten into the first round. And to be fair, I don't know when exactly Derek wrote this.

12:39 So I was going to ask when was this? Yeah, let's see. This was, Oh, I don't even think it says,

12:45 let's see. Yeah. I don't see a date on here. Okay. So this very well could have been after

12:50 this season when his draft status shot up because of all the explosive plays. I'm going to guess

12:54 this was before the start of this season. Uh, it reads a lot like, like, uh, what that was.

13:01 Yep. Yep. And then he's still QB three. So he was still regarded pretty highly. And the

13:05 compass Tyra Taylor, which could sound bad, but if you look at like Tyra when he was really good,

13:11 when he was humming before all the injuries and he just kind of became the guy who was going to

13:15 start before an incumbent starter got to get in the lineup because he got hurt. That just feels

13:20 like it's been Tyra's career for the past few years. Oh, that's a pretty good comparison,

13:24 especially as someone who's going to come into an organization as a guy who's planning to be

13:28 the starter, which is not something that happened with Tyra early on in his career.

13:32 But, uh, so you mentioned that this was sounds more like Jane Daniels draft

13:35 in scouting report before the season. So what do you think are the biggest differences

13:39 from then to now? So first of all, I'd say, I think Tyra Taylor's a good comp for the floor.

13:44 And I see he uses a few other names up there. Kyler Marie and Jalen hurts,

13:49 obviously much taller than Kyler six, four compared to whatever it is, five 11, six foot.

13:53 But that kind of play style, I actually think matches up a lot. Uh, my ceiling for him has

14:00 kind of been a healthy RG three. And you got to remember back to who RG three was

14:05 before Washington ruined him in his knees. I think the big change is the accuracy.

14:10 He was much more accurate this year than he's been in the past. As for those other two knocks,

14:15 I think they kind of go hand in hand, not necessarily one of the positives, but

14:20 we're saying he needs to put on weight. And I think everybody agrees with that.

14:24 He's not going to go just like, you know, stuff his face at nice cream parlor. It sounds so old

14:30 ice cream parlor. He's not going to go stuff his face at a dessert buffet and just, you know,

14:34 put on a gut like I have, he's going to get in the gym. He's going to work up. He's going to

14:38 build up his core. He's going to build up all that he's going to add play strength.

14:43 And that is not only going to help him become more durable, but it's also going to help him

14:47 just, you know, better core. You're going to be able to throw the ball a little bit harder. So

14:51 it all kind of ties in. He basically just needs to, and this is true for a lot of young quarterbacks.

14:56 He just needs to get on an NFL weight program, not just quarterbacks, a lot of draft Rossman's

15:00 just needs to get on an NFL weight program. And he's going to do that. And I think that

15:03 will help him out a lot. So his accuracy is better. It's certainly not a carrying trait.

15:08 He's certainly not the most accurate quarterback in this class, but I think it's certainly good

15:12 enough functional to me, maybe be a bit, maybe a bit of an undersell. Uh, but yeah, I think that's

15:19 a, that's a pretty good summation of what he is. He's a guy that can create explosive plays. He

15:24 throws the ball down the field. Well, he can create plays with his legs. It's really going

15:29 to be about the stuff in between the explosive plays, all the stuff that, right. We've talked

15:33 about Mack Jones and ability and even Bailey's happy to kind of, yeah, he can hit the checkdowns

15:39 and he can dink and dunk the way down the field, but they don't have the guy that can hit the 60 or

15:43 you know, middle of the field bomb on the posts. Jane Daniels can do that. He just needs to get

15:48 better at, you know, the five yard in cut and stuff like that. And that that's teachable.

15:53 That's it doesn't mean it's guaranteed. You got to have a good coaching staff in place,

15:57 but that's a good, it's a very teachable thing to work with. So I like Jane Daniels teachables. I

16:03 think most of his issues are things you can fix. You can't teach speed, right? You can't teach that.

16:09 So I'd say it's a pretty, pretty accurate evaluation of Daniels. I just think the

16:13 accuracy maybe isn't as much of a problem as it was previously. And that I don't think it was up

16:21 there. My biggest plus for Jane Daniels is how much better he is now than he was a year ago,

16:29 two years ago, three years ago, because it shows that he knows how to learn and he knows how to

16:34 learn quickly and he takes coaching and he knows how to be critical of his game and improve his

16:39 game. And that's so important. They don't have a lot of time to mess around. Oh, all right. I don't

16:43 know where Taylor went. I'll just finish. They don't have a lot of, you guys know who I am.

16:48 It's fine. This feels cozy. They don't have a lot of time to mess around on the quarterback.

16:51 They need a guy that can step right in and kind of improve quickly and get acclimated. I held it

16:59 down where you were gone. Don't worry. They need a guy that can get acclimated to the NFL quickly.

17:03 And I think Jane Daniels is a guy that can do that based on the way he got acclimated at LSU.

17:07 Yeah. And you mentioned the staying on schedule kind of stuff in between the explosives.

17:12 Cause the big thing when I started kind of getting into the tape with these guys is I watched Jaden

17:17 and I saw that stuff. Like I was also watching him against Alabama where like with their match

17:21 principles and obviously just saving scheme in general, it's very difficult to stay on schedule

17:26 because they're so good at matching all the concepts and not giving you anywhere to throw.

17:30 But when I watched him versus some of the other guys at the top of this class,

17:34 we're going to talk about one after this. I didn't notice that there wasn't as much consistency

17:39 where you see other guys like hit the, hit the easy throw, hit the easy throw or hit the underneath

17:43 throw. And it feels like they're sustaining drives consistently. Whereas with Ella with LSU's

17:47 offense, I didn't feel that quite as much. And I felt like they were a bit more sporadic and

17:51 there wasn't as much of that, you know, down to down. All right. I'm liking what I'm seeing.

17:56 They're stringing plays together. I felt like there was a lot less consistency there.

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18:44 All right. So next up, we've got the first of these quarterbacks to actually declare

18:54 for the draft. That is Drake May. Before we get into the scouting report, Alex,

18:59 where do you feel his draft stock is now that he's officially going to be a member of this class?

19:04 We already kind of talked about how he had a bit of a skid towards the end of the season,

19:08 but now that we've had some time to breathe, what are your thoughts?

19:11 I mean, as we begin the process, he's a top three pick. I think the only question is two or three.

19:16 He's not going to pass Caleb Williams. It's just a matter of,

19:21 you know, does the team really get eager for Marvin Harrison Jr. or is May the guy everybody's

19:27 after? You know, somebody trades up to make sure they get their quarterback

19:30 and he moves up to second. Yep. All right. So let's dive into it. I believe this is also a

19:35 Derek Klaassen scouting report. He does most of, if not all of the reports for Bleacher Report

19:40 for quarterbacks. All right. Well, first the size is significant. Six, four, 230. Jaden Daniels,

19:46 we mentioned that is a red flag. Even if he puts on the weight, like, yes, that's part of getting

19:50 into a weight program, but it's still something that you have to worry about. You're not worried

19:54 about six, four, 230. That's like all the old school scouts are like, yes, prototypical size.

20:00 We love it. Positives, good athletic ability, quick for his size, good speed to threaten defense

20:06 as a scrambler and as a designed runner. That's one of the really nice things about him is that

20:12 he does have the athleticism. It's not too a Jaden Daniels we've already mentioned, like no one really

20:16 holds a candle to him in this class, but you're not just getting a pocket passer with Drake. You're

20:20 actually getting somebody who can make things happen and who opens up your playbook, which is

20:25 huge for the Patriots because even when they had Cam Newton, the playbook was reduced because one

20:30 COVID year he got there late, but also because he wasn't the best passer at that point in his

20:34 career. Patriots have never had a wide open playbook where they could call passes as well

20:39 as design quarterback runs. That's going to be huge. Very good arm strength, throws with tons

20:44 of velocity outside the numbers and down the field. Great ability to throw a platform and under

20:49 pressure. Again, that being able to make things happen on your own is huge. I think the Patriots

20:54 haven't really had Tom Brady did it in his own way, but especially since he's been gone, you

20:59 really haven't had anybody who could create with any consistency. I can rip it when the, when the

21:04 pocket is cluttered or when he's on the move, great accuracy throws well to all three levels

21:10 and shows splashes of special touch above average ability to operate within structure plays on time

21:16 and knows how to get to the check down. That's the one for me. Like that's my big green flag

21:21 is all the physical tools are fantastic. You like a guy who's accurate, but from the mental side,

21:27 you want, like we just mentioned with Jane Daniels. And this is one of the reasons that these

21:31 guys, he and Caleb Williams are in a different class because you do see the down to down

21:35 consistency where you don't get worried about, all right, yeah, he's got the tools, but what is he

21:39 going to do in our system? Is he going to be able to do make the right reads and at least get to the

21:45 smart decision. And we're going to get to some other things in the weaknesses. He's far from

21:49 perfect, but you know, obviously that's a pretty good list of positives for a franchise quarterback.

21:55 Alex, any thoughts before we get to some of the downsides? Yeah, I I'm probably not as high just

22:00 on his ability, truly in structure. We'll get to that in a second, but yeah, big arm, great athlete,

22:06 again, a lot of the unteachable things. Yep. All right. But now for the negatives,

22:11 tendency to make bad plays worse, we'll run into bad sacks or throw head scratching interceptions,

22:16 trying to save the day. So as we touched on on this show before, he has a bit of the Mack Jones

22:22 thing where he tries to make something happen when he really should just be taking that check.

22:27 Let me get rid of this X. This is super annoying. There's so many ads. Oh my God, whatever. You

22:30 can't get rid of them. But that idea where, okay, you really could just eat this play,

22:35 take the sack, throw the ball away, you know, whatever you got to do, just don't turn it into

22:38 a disaster where you're committing turnovers. And while Drake may has the physical talent,

22:43 where he's not a Mac Jones, but he can do these things and it actually works

22:47 still at the NFL level, the margin for error is slow, slim, so slim.

22:51 There is a risk with a guy who sure operates well in structure most of the time, but also has those

22:57 moments that could potentially lose you the game or give away momentum. And then also struck can

23:02 struggle to come off his pre-snap read when the picture changes on him post snap. And that is

23:07 sort of the two negatives. That's it. So anything else that you'd like to add Alex,

23:13 or obviously feel free to build on what we've got here. This limited list.

23:17 Well, I think it's putting the weight on all of it, right? Like you said, it's, it's the, it's

23:22 being too eager to go to his back foot or that underhand throwing out of a sack, things like

23:28 that hero ball. It will translate the ACC is a lot different than the NFL. And he struggled against a

23:37 lot of the better defenses he faced. Now, some of that was what's around him. And I think the

23:41 biggest thing Drake may has going for him is yes. He struggled more than some of the other

23:45 quarterbacks. You have the biggest, you have the clearest picture of what he can do because he's

23:50 pretty much the only quarterback that didn't have an all-star cast around him of the top guys in

23:54 the shrouds. And I'm not going to knock guys for that. Like a lot of people have, but it is

23:59 something you had to deal with. He had Tez Walker and Amar in Hampton and that's pretty much it. So

24:03 I just, I you're drafting him kind of on spec. You're, you're taking all the things that you

24:09 like to see in a quarterback individually in your hoping he puts them all together,

24:14 right? He has that arm. He has that athletic ability. Sometimes he leans on that too much.

24:21 Sometimes he trusts that too much. He trusts his athletic ability too much and he doesn't

24:25 take advantage of his own. Well, maybe you should, or, you know, he's out there using all the tools.

24:31 He doesn't necessarily know how to use them, right? Hammering in a screw with a hammer instead

24:36 of using a screwdriver, things like that. Oh, the tools are, the tools are certainly all there for

24:42 him to be an elite quarterback. It's just, can he figure out when, where, how to use all of them at

24:49 the right time? That's what you're going to have to work with him on. And that's where you get into

24:53 some of the stuff where he was another analogy in golf, right? He has all the clubs in his bag.

24:59 He can hit the driver. He can hit, he can hit the fairway wood. He can hit the irons. He can

25:03 hit the wedge, but there's times where he's going driver off the deck from 150 yards out.

25:08 I don't know if you play golf. This may make no sense to you. There's times where he's the

25:12 driver's like 300 yard club, right? For a professional. There's times he's going driver

25:18 off the deck from 150 yards out. And there's time he's going to the pitching wedge on a second shot

25:22 on a par five. And you just got to work with him to figure out where and when he needs to use

25:30 again, fantastic tools. He's got to use them, right? And I do still want to emphasize like so

25:36 much because I've seen a lot of comments about this while we have made the Mac Jones comparisons,

25:40 they are not the same player. It is not close because Mac is doing it's mind blowing for Mac,

25:45 because he can't do it. Like he physically cannot do the things he's trying to do.

25:49 So it's like, not only are you making the mistake, there's no benefit. Like you're not being rewarded

25:54 for these things. And when you are, it's always in the slightest margin where you're just like,

25:58 please don't try that again. Whereas a Herbert is in that Josh Allen kind of bag where you're like,

26:03 no, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. It worked like, you know, he still has a lot more success when he goes

26:08 on script, but that's why like with any of these young quarterbacks, the amount of support you

26:13 give them early on will be critical. Cause if he has a group of pass catchers, he can trust and

26:17 isn't running for his life. That makes it easier to develop good habits because it's a clear picture

26:21 on Mondays when you're looking at the film and it's like you had a clean pocket, your guy was

26:25 wide open and you decided to do something else that's easily correctable. It's not so easy when

26:30 you have somebody bearing down on you and you're throwing into a tight window and constantly

26:34 getting hit. Cause that's where it's, you know, with Mac Jones, you're saying he knows what to do,

26:39 but physically and mentally he's not there because he's been battered so many times and doesn't trust

26:44 who he's throwing to that. Now it's like, okay, even if he knows what to do, it makes it a lot

26:49 tougher. So you want to make sure that you get may into a good supporting cast where he can actually

26:54 start to develop some good habits and really build off that. And then, uh, Oh yeah. I would just say

26:59 the other thing I want to emphasize when we, and it's true for Jay Daniels is true for Jake,

27:02 Drake may, we're going to kind of, I think do these as guys declare. So it'll be true for

27:06 Caleb Williams. When you get to him, when you're talking about, and it's going to be true for

27:10 Marvin Harrison, Jr. And Joe Alton, Olufashanu. When you're talking about the top, top, top of

27:15 the class, I always, you guys heard me say it's a million times. You're going to hear me say it a

27:18 million more times. No prospect is perfect, right? There's no such thing as perfect prospect.

27:22 We're nitpicking on these guys. I hear a lot of people say, you know, we talk about this.

27:28 Drake may is a little too eager to get out of structure and it can bite them. And people say,

27:32 Oh, that's like Mack Jones. He sucks. No, it's different context. It doesn't hold the same weight

27:38 as his positives do. So it is, there are things Drake may needs to get better at.

27:45 Yes. There are things Caleb Williams needs to get better at. There are things Jane Daniels

27:48 needs to get better. I said before I'll take what Jane Daniels needs fixed over what most

27:54 of the quarterbacks need fixed. And that's, that's what it comes back to. Yes. Drake may needs to be

28:01 needs to trust himself more in structure. That's a knock and it's a legitimate knock.

28:07 And it's something needs to work on. And if he doesn't figure it out, it's going to be an issue

28:10 for him in the NFL. I would much rather coach that up than for instance, Michael Penix having

28:18 two torn ACLs. Some of the stuff you can't even change, right? So, or, uh, you know,

28:25 Bo Nix's arm strength, you can't change that. So that's what I think you have to remember is

28:32 it's all on skin. Even, you know, as much as I knock Penix, I'd rather that compared to a guy

28:38 like Michael Pratt, who really has, has shown an inability to attack the field beyond 20 yards.

28:46 So it, it, it, we're going to, we're going to knock guys. We're going to criticize guys.

28:51 We're going to talk about things guys need to get better at this. What we do during this process,

28:55 you have to look at it in the context of the bigger picture and everybody has stuff they

28:59 need to get better on, but there's certain issues you take more willingly than others.

29:03 Right. And that's why the comps are like, you see right here, Justin Herbert, right? When you look

29:08 at him, it is impossible not to think of Herbert because they have very similar body types. So

29:13 they're both really tall, but they have good size. They're athletic and they've got that cannon for

29:18 an arm. Like physically you completely understand the Justin Herbert, the Josh Allen cops, which

29:22 I'm seeing some of the comments. That's the mental part. But think about it. Josh Allen would not

29:27 have a job if he didn't have the physical talent to overcome his own deficiencies. And that's the

29:32 big thing again, with Mac, he makes these mistakes, but he's also not throwing 80 yard bombs where

29:37 you're like, all right, fine. Like in the fourth quarter, as long as you don't make a mistake,

29:41 you're probably going to put this one away with Mac. It's if he makes a big mistake like that,

29:45 it takes a lot more effort to overcome it. Whereas Drake may like a Josh Allen is someone

29:50 who on one play could completely change the game and score instantly. And that's the difference

29:55 where you, like you say, you want to see what they can improve on. The guy has elite talent,

30:00 like one of the best quarterback prospects we've seen in the past few years. He can lead your

30:05 franchise. He can win you a lot of games. If you know, he's surrounded by a good supporting cast

30:10 and for everything I've heard character wise, like that's not a concern. So again, look at what he is

30:15 and the deficiencies. Yes, they need to be fixed, but they're not as bad as what you have to deal

30:19 with with a lot of other prospects. Uh, but yeah, for me, so yes, go on. Sorry. I just say for me,

30:24 like the ceilings, Justin Herbert, the floor again, he's more athletic than Mac Jones.

30:28 His floor is not going to be that low. I look at like Daniel Jones as kind of being the floor where

30:35 Daniel Jones basically just wins on athleticism as crazy as that sounds. Cause he's not like a

30:40 super athletic guy, but he's not really reading defenses. He's not using his arm. That's the

30:45 difference with the Daniel Jones stuff. Like cerebrally, they're not the same. They're not

30:51 close to the same. And that's, that's what's held Daniel Jones back is that he can't read NFL

30:55 defenses. I think that's part of what could be, not that he can't read it for Drake may,

31:00 but he's going to be overwhelmed by it. I think that's what you worry about. And that's an,

31:03 if I'm not saying that's guaranteed. And at that point, he's going to be a guy that

31:07 if that's who he becomes, it's going to be all read options and RPOs.

31:11 And that's all you're going to be running with him and just trusting him to make one replays.

31:15 And when athletically, so that to me is the floor for Drake, man, again, that's the floor. That's,

31:20 if everything goes wrong, you're looking at another guy like Daniel Jones.

31:24 Yep. But enough of that quarterback talk. How about some love for our boys in the trenches?

31:29 Oh, we're going to move on to the first offensive lineman, or at least the first top offensive

31:34 lineman that we've seen declare for the draft. But first quick word from our friends at Seat

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32:46 Okay. So it's been pretty highly debated. If the Patriots weren't to get a quarterback,

32:54 all right, if they decided to wait and get like a Michael Panix or a Bo Nix or somebody,

32:58 they could get probably towards the later part of the first round or the beginning of the second.

33:02 Who should they get? Now we have had this discussion. Marvin Harrison Jr. is by far

33:07 the most popular choice for obvious reasons. The Patriots have not had a really an exceptional

33:14 wide receiver in a long time. They haven't had someone like Marvin Harrison Jr. Like I feel

33:18 like every time the Patriots got a competent X, it's, oh, this is the best guy they've had since

33:23 Randy Moss. Like we keep hearing that, but like, no, actually like Marvin Harrison Jr. would be

33:28 the most talented receiver that they have had since Randy Moss. But I'm not sure that is a

33:35 choice they can make. This is a team with too many holes. And as much as they do need receiving

33:39 talent, I think good or elite, maybe not elite, but like really good above average wide receiver

33:45 talent can be found at different parts of the draft. Often to tackle the body type that you

33:50 need to be exceptional at it. And then that's just before you even get to the mental part

33:55 and the physical part, it's just too rare. You don't see really, really good players outside

34:00 of the first round very often. So before we get in to Joe Alt, who is declared for the draft,

34:06 who would you take with the first pick considering the Patriots are going to be top five.

34:11 And if you could get your choice of anybody who's not a quarterback, who would you take?

34:14 I think for the Patriots, it's gotta be Joe Alt. I do. I think that, and I love Marvin

34:22 Harrison Jr. As a player, I do. But if you have no quarterback and you have nobody blocking to

34:27 make sure that whatever quarterback you have can get the ball out, Marvin Harrison Jr. Is not going

34:32 to do you a lot of good. You can linchpin an offense with the left tackle easier than you can

34:36 a wide receiver. And I get it. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is a wide receiver. It's a sexy position.

34:41 Everybody just, you know, that's what people want to see. Joe Alt is the Marvin Harrison Jr. Of

34:46 tackles. You know, the way it was posed to me is who would you rather have Calvin Johnson or Joe

34:52 Thomas? And a lot of people instantly go to Calvin Johnson. Joe Thomas is the same caliber player,

34:57 just in another position. And I know people want the wide receiver. I get it where the Patriots

35:02 are. There's a real argument. It makes more sense to add a tackle than a wide receiver when both

35:08 players are of the same caliber. And if you want an example, go back to week two against the

35:13 Dolphins. Didn't matter who Mack Jones was throwing to. He was getting hit before he could

35:18 finish his drop. Wide receivers are a nice, and then you could go to like Joe Burrow and the

35:23 Bengals getting Jamar Chase. Sure. Joe Burrow still got the crap beat out of him that entire

35:28 season. Like it wasn't like he didn't pay for it. And obviously like they had great chemistry from

35:33 college. That was a unique situation. And technically it has worked out for them,

35:36 not in the Super Bowl and yet. But I, again, having the left tackle, especially one with

35:41 durability who has a history of being healthy, no big red flags or anything like that. I just

35:46 think that is so invaluable. And before you start throwing the guys deep, you need time for that to

35:52 develop. And I think that to do that, you need a good tackle. All right. So let's look at the

35:57 scouting report for Joel. Let me check. I think this is Brandon Thorne. Another friend of the show.

36:01 There we go. Brandon, uh, offensive line expert does bleacher reports, scouting reports for the

36:06 offensive line and I believe defensive line at some points as well. So height six, eight, three,

36:11 22. That'll do it pretty good. Positives tall and long with a lean, well-proportioned build.

36:19 Excellent athletic ability, balance and body control plays with a special blend of pad level

36:24 weight distribution, hand placement and footwork to routinely out leveraged defenders and sustained

36:29 blocks. Extremely light on his feet and pass protection, able to protect the corner against

36:34 speed and inside against counters with equal effectiveness plays long while maintaining a

36:39 flat back with his head out of the block to establish first meaningful contact on pass rushers

36:44 using potent independent hands to disrupt their timing and keep them at his fingertips. There's

36:49 more. He's so good. Okay. Keep going. Handles basic line game stunts and twists with ease using

36:56 clear eyes, proper depth, timing and spacing with his clear eyes. Full heart can't lose. I was

37:02 thinking and I was like, finish, finish, finish. But man, wouldn't it be nice if the Patriots had

37:06 more people who could pick up line games. Advanced sticky run blocker who is consistently on time

37:12 and in proper position to win the block and execute his assignment regardless of scheme

37:16 or level of the defense. Top notch competitive toughness with consistent effort to finish blocks

37:21 at a high level. Honestly, man, before we even, I'm just going to go to the negatives because like

37:25 just listen to all those positives. I need to know what's wrong with this guy. We'll concede

37:30 ground initially against the bull rush before transitioning into his anchor, resulting in the

37:34 pocket being compressed, especially against an effective long arm technique, below average jolt

37:39 and power on contact. That's it. And he was a team captain, a former four-star recruit. I'm going now,

37:47 I'm kind of just getting into the weeds because this guy's insane. All grew up, grew up playing

37:50 quarterback before making the transition to tight end in high school. So he understands football

37:56 from different perspectives. Obviously that's pretty young, but still being able to see the

38:00 game through different lenses, especially as an offensive lineman is huge. I mean,

38:04 what more do you want from the guy? This isn't right. And especially for the Patriots. Like if

38:09 you want the big bulking, powerful guy, that's your right tackle. You don't need overwhelming

38:13 power to be a successful left guard in the Patriots system or really most NFL systems.

38:17 And as Brandon said, he's still a good run blocker regardless of scheme. And that's one thing. I

38:22 think the Patriots are a little limited scheme wise and what they can do in the run game because

38:26 Trent fantastic pass blocker, obviously devastating down blocker, but isn't as effective

38:31 when you get them pulling out in space. Cause he's such a big guy. It's hard for him to redirect

38:35 quickly. So I'm blown away, Alex, give me your thoughts. Again. He's the Marvin Harrison junior

38:41 of the tackle draft. And there's a note right there. You were getting to his dad's a 13 year

38:46 NFL player, former all pro tackle for the chiefs recruited as a tight end. So better player,

38:52 much better prospect, but you want to talk about athletic profile kind of has that Nate

38:57 soldier thing going on where he was at tight end transition tackles a freshman.

39:02 He turns 21 in February yet. He has 33 college starts under his belt. Only in only three of

39:10 those, he allowed more than two pressures and it never happened more than once in a season.

39:14 He was only penalized twice this year. This is a guy I talked before about, you know,

39:18 what do you want to coach up? This guy doesn't need a lot of coaching. He's very technically

39:23 sound. You're going to look for him to put on five to 10 pounds, get a little more muscular

39:27 so he can handle some of that bull rush. I think that's really the big knock on him. It's just that

39:31 he's, he's still growing into a tackle body transitioning from tight end, but at six,

39:36 eight, he's got tremendous flexibility. So he can still get down in that set deal with some of those

39:41 speed rushers. He'll the elite power rushers will give him trouble, but he can certainly hold his

39:47 own. Uh, just a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous player. And again, for all we talked about

39:54 Marvin Harrison being kind of this elite blue chip generational wide receiver prospect,

39:58 I would say Joel is the best tackle prospect the NFL has seen since Pena.

40:02 So I, I truly believe that soul was viewed. I don't know. He might be better than soul. I

40:08 honestly, I need to go back and kind of look at that. Soul was the last guy we talked about

40:13 as being that, that generational tackle. And, and by the way, all of a sudden who might

40:18 be at this point as well, he's, he's not quite the player is, uh, Altus right now with him.

40:24 You're kind of looking more at upside, but not a guy I think you can go wrong with in Joel.

40:31 They think if you get Joel, you, you kind of talked about it before you're going to set it

40:35 and forget it left tackle for 10 to 15 years. I think that Joe Thomas comp is a fair one.

40:41 And from everything I, and I'm not an offensive line guy. It's not, I wouldn't say it's one of

40:46 my stronger positions, but I've watched a lot of offensive linemen and speaking to the people who

40:51 I trust on offensive linemen, they are drooling over this guy. They cannot wait to watch this

40:57 guy in the NFL. So I'm a big fan of his. I get it. People don't want to hear tackle

41:03 with the top pick. They want, you know, a sexy skill position player. And if you want a quarterback,

41:10 I understand. I want a quarterback above all else. There is a real strong argument

41:15 for the Patriots specifically to take Joe Alt over Marvin Harrison, Jr. And the other thing I would

41:21 stress is you don't take Joe Alt. Okay, fine. You, you, you want to get your tackle. You're

41:27 thinking in the second round, the drop from Joe Alt to guy like Troy Futanu or Jordan Morgan or,

41:36 uh, uh, Fugawa, the, the guy from, from Oregon state that drop is much more significant than

41:44 the drop from a guy like Marvin Harrison to Xavier worthy. Who's probably going to be

41:51 in that same range. Late first, early second round pick Brian Thomas, Xavier Leggett.

41:57 You take a tackle on day one. You take a tackle with your first round pick. I still think if you

42:03 go wide receiver early on day two, you are going to get a day one starter. Yeah. If you take Marvin

42:12 Harrison, Jr. In the first round and then leave your tackle the day two, you're probably getting

42:18 a project player. You may get a year one starter. You're not getting a day one starter at the tackle

42:24 position and in free agency, there's really no tackles. There's Jonah Williams, who I think is a

42:30 legitimate option. Trent Brown's the next highest rate of tackling. He does not sound like a guy

42:34 that wants to come back here. And then there's another steep drop off after him. So more, you

42:41 know, do you want Marvin Harrison, Jr. And whoever plan C is after Trent Brown or Joe Alt and T

42:50 Higgins, right. Or a guy like that in terms of playing the entire game of the off season, Joe

42:55 Alt makes a ton of sense because there's not a ton of tackles. There's not a ton of tackles in the

42:59 NFL. You have a chance to get a blue chip prospect, a real blue chip five-star generational prospect

43:06 at a position that NFL teams are dying to acquire talent and just can't do it.

43:12 Whereas Marvin Harrison, Jr. Gen generational wide receiver. The other guys you're going to take

43:17 behind them are the other guys that are available in free agency. They are hardly consolation prizes.

43:22 They are not scrubs. They are legitimate either in free agency wide receiver one or in the draft

43:28 wide receiver, one potential game changing players. You're not getting that at the tackle

43:33 position outside of Alton for Shanu and you're not getting for Shanu. If you pass on alt,

43:40 it's one of those two, maybe if you're talking about, if you trade down from three to six,

43:45 at that point, it's not worth it. You just take Joe Alt.

43:47 This conversation kind of got depressing for me just because the Patriots are almost definitely

43:52 going quarterback with that topic. Now it's like, now it's, well, what are they doing?

43:58 So the name I would encourage everybody to know is Patrick Paul. Yeah. I actually think he might

44:05 have been here for the draft today too. I don't know if he did. I think you might be right. That

44:09 sounds familiar. I saw some, maybe he just opted out of bowl game. I don't know. I saw some sort

44:13 of story about him. He was, uh, yeah, I don't know why he was in the news. Patrick Paul's a

44:19 tackle from Houston, a very textbook Patriots left tackle six, seven, three 15 multi-year starter.

44:29 I high IQ, intelligent football player grinder plays till the whistle. Now he's going to the

44:35 senior bowl. There's a chance he ends up being a late first round pick. Maybe you move up back

44:41 into the first to get him. Patrick Paul to me is a very, very, and there's a couple other guys in

44:47 this range. I know some people like Fitanu from Washington state, Graham Barton from Duke. This

44:52 is again, the guy from Oregon state Fuaga, whose name I suck at Cooper BB from, from Kansas state.

45:00 This is the group that's ultimately going to be sorted out. I like Paul the best of them right

45:04 now. That's the group you're looking at for the Patriots. And you're hoping maybe one of those

45:08 guys turns into a diamond in the rough. One of those guys turns into a gem. That's what you're

45:12 going to have to do. And then you figure out wide receiver some other way, but it's just,

45:16 you're not going to get more again. Marvin Harrison jr. Is an elite prospect.

45:22 I would say if you have a chance to add a guy like T Higgins or age aside, add a guy like,

45:28 like Mike Evans, or maybe DK Metcalf gets upset and shoots his way out of Seattle or

45:34 Devante Adam shoots his way out of Vegas. You're going to have a chance to add a player.

45:39 The caliber of Marvin Harrison jr. May not be easy. May have to give up something to do it.

45:44 You're going to have a chance to do it. I don't think you're going to have a chance to add a

45:48 player like Joe Alt, not just this year, but for the next few years, I agree. I really wish that

45:54 they weren't in a position that they're in right now where they could actually address their

45:57 offensive line. Because I really do think outside of quarterback, like that is the biggest thing

46:01 that you need to stock up on. And with the Patriots for agent situation, like you don't

46:06 even have a guarantee than the one who's going to come back. So they are going to be very active

46:09 in a tackle. If, if, if Mack Jones had played well in Mack Jones had proven he was the guy

46:14 right up to the podium, I would say, go buy your Joe Alt Jersey. Like I fit him,

46:20 start fitting him for a uniform, which one's his locker, all of that. He would be such a

46:24 no brainer pick, but the quarterback position is the quarterback position.

46:28 And again, everything I just said about all, you know, this is where you got to get the tackle.

46:32 You still got to get a quarterback quarterback, supersedes all of that. I'm just talking about

46:37 tackle relative to the wide receiver position. And look, I debuted this take a couple of weeks

46:41 ago on, on Patriots beat. I caught some flack for it. I even had people calling a catch 22 about it.

46:46 And I won't lie. I started looking back. I was like, Oh, did I miss something here?

46:50 The fact that you and we were talking to Evan about this today, he's agree with me. He agrees

46:54 with me. The really smart X and O's people agree with me on this. I feel so much better about this.

46:59 I just feel like if you're trying to be a hard over football, always take the offensive line,

47:04 but always take the least sexy position and you'll at least sound like a football head.

47:08 But this is awesome. We will continue this series and we're going to be covering the people that

47:13 declared for the draft and doing our deep dive similar to this format. So that's going to be

47:17 something to look forward to right now. We're going to call it a night, but Alex, we already

47:22 mentioned you have the great piece on Jaden Daniel that people need to check out, let them know what

47:27 else you got coming down the pipeline and what they should be looking out. Yes. All 90 of the

47:31 sports hub.com posted a mailbag today. Actually got a little more into the Joe Alt discussion

47:35 there if you want to know more. So again, there's this other tackle Olu Fashanu, who's another,

47:40 I have like just a step below Joe Alt, but he's a very, very good would have been tackle one last

47:46 year would have been tackle one the year before that, uh, got a little more into the, why I like

47:51 Alt over for Sean. It was a little nitpicky, but I think they're fair critiques. You can find that

47:57 on 95 sports hub.com and I'll be on catch 22 with Evan Lazar tomorrow. 10 o'clock. Patriots.com.

48:03 Keep it locked. Everybody. Thank you, Alex. Thank you all for watching.

48:08 Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. We're going to see you next time.

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