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00:00 the head coach couldn't even come out after last season and talk about some of
00:07 the things that he was telling people privately just admitting that look I
00:12 messed up I didn't put our offense and Mac Jones in position to succeed with
00:17 what I decided to do with the coaching staff that that's on me like don't don't
00:22 put that on them I thought it was gonna work it obviously didn't work you know
00:28 that's my fault but we're gonna get it corrected I mean we didn't even hear
00:31 that from him and you know instead we got the anonymous source sort of blame
00:37 game you know with Mac Jones and you know and then it was you know he's he's
00:42 not gonna mention his name all offseason and stuff like that so I mean this is
00:46 just you know what you get and you know to go back to my original point you just
00:50 have to wonder what the crafts are thinking about all this stuff that that
00:55 this is where their head coach is this is how the head coach treats some of his
01:01 duties which includes being the public face of the franchise to the media to
01:06 the fans more importantly and this is sort of what he does and is that good
01:12 enough for this franchise anymore especially now that they are on their
01:15 way to their third losing season in four years the Greg Bidard Patriots podcast
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01:22 media network so Greg how was the turkey day my man it was pretty good Nick it
01:29 was just a quiet day with the family quite the feast that mrs. BSJ and myself
01:36 put together I'm sort of like I'm designated turkey guy she does
01:40 everything else including a mean apple pie so it was uh you know when the kids
01:45 kids were around you know we just it was a good quiet day nice glad you enjoyed
01:51 it I went to the I went to the mother-in-law's hung out there for a few
01:56 hours I had a couple drinks watched some bad football had some good food so it
02:00 was a good time hopefully everybody watching listening to us had a great
02:04 holiday as well as we get ready for this football game coming up on Sunday before
02:07 we get into it though this episode brought to by fan duel exclusive
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02:16 bonus bets with any winning $5 money line bet all right Greg now you and I
02:22 talked about doing a podcast today after the last one we did and we at least
02:28 thought there might be a shot that Belichick would know who is starting
02:32 quarterback is going to be for Sunday if he knows he's not telling anybody
02:36 earlier today with the media just about an hour ago Greg he stuck to the told
02:41 everybody to be ready to go line yeah yeah Nick at this point I'm about out of
02:50 answers or even I mean I do have some theories on why he's doing this but you
02:57 know my overriding thought is if you're the crafts and you're you know watching
03:03 this stuff at two and eight you know how do you feel about it how do you feel
03:08 about how your head coach is representing your football program there
03:14 haven't been any leaks to this point in time that the players are being told
03:17 something different which you know I wouldn't be surprised we're taping this
03:23 a little afternoon on Friday knowing the way Belichick operates as soon as he
03:28 gets off the podium there are some leaks so I should really be checking Twitter
03:33 that that he filters out what he wants to certain national reporters so be on a
03:39 lookout for that today since Bill doesn't now doesn't have to comment on
03:45 it until after the game on Sunday so those are sort of my overriding
03:50 thoughts but you know my my big thing is you know trying to put on my Belichick
03:57 hat which we all know is is is tough to do and questionable at best but the only
04:06 thing that I could here's a couple thoughts that I have that you know for
04:11 whatever reason he's trying to keep everybody on their toes I think part of
04:15 it has to do with some of these leaks to whether it's Mike Giardi or Andrew
04:22 Callahan or whoever about the locker room on where they are as far as Mac
04:27 Jones you know 80/20 being out on Mac Jones that sort of thing I can see this
04:32 as Belichick just being like you guys think you have a say in this like screw
04:37 you guys so now I'm just gonna keep you in the dark so that could be part of it
04:42 a bigger part of it my gut tells me that Bill is doing this because I think he
04:53 knows that he could be moving to Bailey's zappy and he doesn't want to
04:58 put Mac in the position and the players in a locker room in the position to talk
05:03 about all this if it was just Mac Jones you know why not go out there and say
05:10 like look you know Mac has had his issues but we have bigger issues as an
05:15 offense that are affecting the quarterback and we all need to be better
05:17 until we start pointing the fingers at at the quarterback not to make Mac Jones
05:23 a sacrificial lamb for the struggles of the offense but if he is thinking about
05:28 making a change to zappy this weekend to me it would make sense that bill would
05:34 withhold that information as long as possible just to not embarrass Mac Jones
05:39 I mean because if he if he if he did that on whenever they came back Monday
05:45 and Tuesday then you know what do you do about the wei interview what are the
05:51 guys being asked about you know putting Bailey in that position like you know
05:57 now at this point in time just say that he does go with Bailey's happy on Sunday
06:02 you know Mac Jones probably wouldn't be made available after the game he would
06:07 probably hightail it out of the locker room and he probably wouldn't be asked
06:11 about it until sometime the next week so those are just some of the thoughts that
06:16 that are running through my head but just in general I mean it's just it's
06:20 ridiculous you're two and eight football team you know figure it out set a course
06:25 for the team and let's get on with it he's playing chess he's not playing
06:30 checkers Greg a couple things here as far as protecting Mac I think what
06:37 you just said would make a lot of sense in theory right that you're protecting
06:41 Mac in essence by not coming out and saying zappies the guy but according to
06:45 the reports that I've read they're splitting reps yeah between zappy and
06:49 Mac at practice so look I just looking looking at this situation and saying to
06:56 myself man we're Friday before a Sunday game for a two and eight football team
07:02 and if this is truly the head coach being undecided on who's going to start
07:07 what a freaking nightmare this is it just highlights what we've talked about
07:10 before how much of a mess the quarterback room is I also kind of looked
07:15 at Dan Campbell last night I don't know if you saw this Greg but there was a
07:19 very questionable fake punt that they called for during the game and it went
07:23 nowhere it's like like Green Bay was the most ready team for a fake punt that
07:29 I've ever seen in my life and so Campbell after the game came out and
07:33 said I made a mistake I shouldn't made that call that that was on me and and
07:39 look people some people might not care about this and when you're winning I
07:44 think people care a lot less honestly I was one of those guys that would say
07:47 like hey whatever Belichick handles the things he handles and he's gonna be Bill
07:51 but they're winning so you can't really complain or criticize it but in this
07:55 case like just this year with Bill handling things the same way he handled
07:59 them when they were winning Super Bowls it's like it would be nice to see the
08:02 head coach take a little bit more accountability and responsibility for
08:06 some of the bleep show that we've seen this year Greg yeah I mean you know no
08:11 question but you know I think I think you and I realized that that boat left
08:15 the harbor a long time ago I mean yeah but the head coach couldn't even come
08:20 out after last season and talk about some of the things that he was telling
08:26 people privately just admitting that look I messed up I didn't put our
08:31 offense and Mac Jones in position to succeed with what I decided to do with
08:36 the coaching staff that that's on me like don't don't put that on them I
08:42 thought it was gonna work it obviously didn't work you know that's my fault
08:46 but we're gonna get it corrected I mean we didn't even hear that from him and
08:50 you know instead we got the anonymous source sort of blame game you know with
08:56 Mac Jones and you know and then it was you know he's he's not gonna mention his
09:01 name all offseason and stuff like that so I mean this is just you know what you
09:05 get and you know to go back to my original point you just have to wonder
09:08 what the crafts are thinking about all this stuff that that this is where their
09:14 head coach is this is how the head coach treats some of his duties which includes
09:20 being the public face of the franchise to the media to the fans more
09:25 importantly and this is sort of what he does and is that good enough for this
09:30 franchise anymore especially now that they are on their way to their third
09:33 losing season in four years people might sit there and say Oh Greg and Nick this
09:38 is a media versus Belichick thing but it goes beyond that I want people to think
09:42 about why this is something that we should talk about the way Belichick
09:48 handles these things allows him to not take accountability or responsibility
09:52 for a number of different aspects we saw it at the trading deadline like he's the
09:57 GM he's the head coach he has the final call and when he's up there and he's
10:00 playing these games these semantics games about his position within the
10:04 organization like other organizations have their GM's out there saying this is
10:09 why we chose to do what we did this is why we chose to not do you know a trade
10:14 at the deadline it is taking accountability and responsibility for
10:19 the decisions that you make as the head coach and GM and the games that Belichick
10:24 plays with the media especially when you're losing like this he's he's
10:28 deflecting everything and he's deflecting any responsibility from himself so it
10:33 goes beyond this media versus Belichick stuff that I think fans get wrapped up
10:37 into and try to pick aside it's the guy who's calling the shots and he wants
10:43 others to take responsibility and accountability but meanwhile he doesn't
10:47 say anything at these press conferences which is running away from any of that
10:51 responsibility all right Greg you had a you had a great column and I read it
10:55 yesterday before I went out for Thanksgiving dinner on Mac Jones and the
10:59 offense and how things have just fallen off a cliff since 2021 you were speaking
11:04 my language my man we were not only in the same church we were sitting in the
11:08 same pew we were just sitting the same pew next to each other that's that's how
11:11 I loved how much I love this from you but the most telling parts for people
11:16 that haven't read it I would I would suggest that you read this piece by Greg
11:20 it's really good he spoke to four or five executives around the league about
11:24 Mac Jones in this offense but what was the most telling thing from that story
11:27 Greg when you looked back when you looked back to 2021 and from what you
11:31 heard from these executives I think I think to me and just to give people a
11:37 little bit of background but because of course when you publish something that's
11:40 not positive about the Patriots and you know you you get a lot of pushback I
11:47 mean that's just typical it's these people like they're still fighting the
11:50 Civil War like I mean you know like look what look what has happened to this
11:54 program and and you know since going back to Brady's last season and these
11:58 people want to pretend that you know everything is all hunky-dory like you
12:02 know whatever and so you know when I do these stories you know I try to take my
12:07 I certainly have my opinion but I'm not you know and I do have somewhat of an
12:11 informed opinion but I you know anytime I have questions or there's some doubt
12:16 like I just go back to my Rolodex so you know guys that I have spoken to over the
12:22 course of you know 20 years two of which have very heavy ties to the Patriots and
12:28 know how they do things and know some of the inner workings and actually what's
12:31 gone on with this internally over the past couple years and I put the
12:36 questions out to them and then you know I get it back from them and I take
12:40 myself out of the equation you know to try to better inform my readers
12:45 especially the members at Boston Sports Journal and you know I would say the
12:50 thing that that surprised me the most was that first of all you know all of
12:57 them wanted to go back to Mac Jones in 2021 and there was a lot of conversation
13:01 about that about where he was his rookie season now you know was it perfect did
13:07 he you know are there the people out there like oh well this goes this goes
13:11 back to Mac Jones you know not playing well down the stretch in in in 2021 you
13:18 know I mean you can say that I mean I put that more on the entire team I mean
13:21 the entire team has sucked for how many years in December but anyways you know
13:27 they point out that you know this was a guy that by the end of the season not
13:33 only were the team offensive staffs but Mac Jones's stats were at least or
13:38 better than Tom Brady's in 2019 so this goes back the deterioration of the
13:44 offense goes back a ways but you know they pointed out that you know how Mac
13:48 did you know in the sea in his for a very first game against the Dolphins and
13:52 how much they blitzed them and how the the Patriots did not you know just curl
13:56 up in a ball and say like let's just manage the game and check it down and
14:00 those no they they went at it you know Mac Jones's first game and they ended up
14:05 losing the game but I mean that was on Damian Harris fumbling the ball at the
14:08 end or else they would have won that game and also you know a big thing is
14:12 the you know that the toe-to-toe matchup between Mac Jones and Tom Brady I mean
14:20 we all remember what that was like Tom Brady coming back in Gillette Stadium
14:24 with a Bucks team and you know let's be honest they were they floundered for
14:27 about half a season but still a team that went on to win the Super Bowl very
14:31 talented Tom Brady obviously coming back and wanting to show Bill Belichick what
14:37 he missed and you know Mac Jones in that game was 31 of 40 275 yards two
14:46 touchdowns and interception a 101 rating Brady was 22 of 43 a 70.8 rating you
14:51 know Dak Prescott came in here and actually torched the Patriots yet you
14:57 know Mac Jones you know ended with a 118.9 yeah he threw the pick six but he
15:02 also gave them a lead with two minutes left you know and when the Patriots it
15:08 seems like a foreign concept right now and it seems like a foreign concept and
15:11 that's part of the point about where Mac Jones is right now but you know they had
15:15 blowout wins against you know the Browns the Titans you know a couple other ones
15:20 and the way that the Patriots did that is they came out throwing against the
15:24 Browns Jones was 13 of 15 for 134 and two touchdowns in the first half almost
15:29 a perfect passer rating against the Titans it was it was 1613 and a halftime
15:36 oh I wanted to point out in the Tampa game people forget and one of the
15:41 sources pointed this out to me that the Patriots rushed eight times for minus one
15:45 yard in that game and they they should have won the game if yes if Bill went
15:51 for it on fourth down instead of going for the field goal was that the game or
15:57 was that the Dallas game in the rain I think it was yeah it was it was the
16:00 Tampa game if Bill goes for it and they get it they probably run the clock down
16:05 and win the game but I mean they they couldn't run it all against the Bucs yet
16:09 you know they threw 40 42 times for 320 yards 16 of their 21st downs came via
16:16 the air in that game and so you know and also you know like I talked about the
16:21 blowouts that Mac Jones did a really good job in you know going back to my
16:25 sources I asked the question because we've heard this from different people
16:28 that Mac Jones was tightly stage managed by Josh McDaniels and I've said that but
16:35 I wanted to know to what extent because there's a lot of talk about like oh it
16:38 was like Jared Goff and Sean McVay and the 15 seconds left on the play clock I
16:42 was told unequivocally no that did that stuff didn't happen that they put a lot
16:46 on Mac Jones and he was an extremely competent quarterback but really what's
16:49 gone on what's gone on since then why it's regressed so much is that you know
16:56 and I think that I think the final quote that I use kind of summed it up
17:00 perfectly where it says Bill just has not hasn't done a good enough job of
17:06 putting together a group of players and coaches that can support the quarterback
17:09 position when it's not Tom Brady they were used to doing in a certain way when
17:14 they got another quarterback that didn't change how it how it how anything went
17:18 down and they didn't support them with Mac Jones with personnel with the
17:24 offensive line deteriorated then on top of that the coaching the coaching took a
17:28 huge step back from where we were in 2021 with Josh McDaniels and sort of his
17:32 staff the guys that he trained a lot of the guys that he brought to Vegas and
17:38 instead what they've gone to you of course we know about 2022 with Matt
17:42 Patricia and Joe judge but also to today with you know Adrian Clem coming in and
17:47 Troy Brown and you know where the coaching is not good enough outside of
17:53 Bill O'Brien I mean even look at the quarterback position in as a rookie Mac
17:57 Jones had Bo Hardegre there who is now the interim OC for the Las Vegas Raiders
18:01 this is a guy who played the position who had been a coach in the league who
18:07 had been a quarterbacks coach in the league and now on this staff it's Evan
18:11 Rothstein an analyst like you know how does that happen you know so it's just a
18:16 you know it's the big a lot of stuff that we've talked about I don't think
18:20 any of it is groundbreaking but to hear it from people who aren't affiliated
18:24 with with the Patriots who aren't beholden to Bill Belichick and you know
18:28 who are just NFL League sources that executives that look at this from afar
18:35 and study the tape and and you know have their own grades on Mac Jones and stuff
18:39 like that you know they just think it's it's a systemic problem what's gone on
18:43 to this point the biggest thing that stood out to me was that these
18:49 executives that you spoke to universally believe that Mac Jones is an NFL
18:53 quarterback and they believe that he could be a good NFL quarterback so you
18:58 know for the people that are just in the camp of Mac sucks he's always sucked
19:02 again I'll just disagree with all of you that feel that way we each have opinions
19:06 it's fantastic opinions are opinions cool but if you're if you're talking to
19:11 people within the game like Greg did for this piece they don't see it that way
19:15 they see that Mac could be a starting quarterback in the league so if you
19:18 think that max value is completely shot or they don't believe that you know he's
19:21 worth absolutely anything I would say that's not true off of what these execs
19:26 said secondly the McDaniels hand-holding I'm glad you asked about that Greg
19:30 because this is something that's really been a hair across my tuk-tuk the last
19:34 few weeks and I know look I trust Burt Rear he's a good reporter and he gets
19:40 good information and I'm sure there were some people that were talking to Burt
19:43 that were trying to angle this thing to make it look like Josh McDaniels was
19:47 literally carrying Mac in the games like he was a little baby and taking care of
19:51 him and making sure that he had you know knew everything quarterbacks especially
19:56 young quarterbacks there's a good amount of guys that get fed information in
20:00 their ears before the snap of the football that's why the NFL allows it
20:03 until about 15 seconds left on the play clock that that's not something new it
20:08 happens a lot in the league so that's the first thing I'd say secondly once 15
20:12 seconds is there communications cut off so if you're playing against the defense
20:17 that's gonna I guess especially against the rookie that's trying to change some
20:20 things up front late in the play clock right some teams disguise things until
20:25 post snap Mac still has to read the defense and understand what's happening
20:31 and make the play and make the throw so I just I hated that narrative that
20:35 McDaniels was just you know the reason why Mac played well when he played well
20:39 that that's ridiculous to me and Nick and also along those lines go watch any
20:43 NFL game see how many teams break or even at the line of scrimmage by with
20:48 15 seconds left on the play clock like it it doesn't happen like they basically
20:53 break the huddle at 15 seconds so you're getting up there with a route 10 and
20:56 then you got to figure things out yep yep and you know I just think some of
21:02 that is is again making McDaniels look great and not making Mac look like he's
21:06 competent and I just I hate that kind of line of thinking back to 2021 I'm glad
21:12 that you went through some of the games you've kind of said to me that I've got
21:16 the Mac files and a number of the games that you brought up in this piece and
21:20 I've talked about these on the Nick cattle show my podcast that I do if you
21:25 look at these games I just the whole win-loss record against good teams and
21:30 the idea of like he's never had a comeback win other than two times
21:33 against you know Houston and then Buffalo and all that stuff is just it's
21:38 such a lazy statistic to go to because when you look at these games you have to
21:42 understand that the quarterback is not solely responsible for wins and losses
21:46 we used to do this in baseball we used to give credit to the starting pitcher
21:50 for wins and losses the win-loss record was indicative of the starting pitcher
21:53 and then about 15 20 years ago we realized that was crap a lot of things
21:58 happen in a football game so even this year like you could look at the plays
22:02 that Mac made against Philly and his receivers didn't help him out the play
22:07 that he made against the Raiders Devante Parker we've been through that so even
22:11 this year Mac has made some plays at the end of games where if guys helped him
22:15 out they would have maybe won those games and that's not to say that Mac
22:18 played great or Mac didn't make mistakes it's just that idea of he can't make a
22:23 throw late in the game he has disproved that multiple times throughout his
22:28 career all right let's get to the Turkey Day games quickly Greg before we get
22:33 into the Giants just your takeaways main takeaways from what we saw yesterday and
22:37 really three games that stunk to high heaven yeah you know I I had three
22:43 bullet points but all my biggest point you know watching the 49ers and Brock
22:48 Purdy and and Kyle Shanahan operate you know I'll stick to that one and it's in
22:53 it relates to Mac Jones and the Patriots is that you know what you see with Brock
22:58 Purdy and look Brock Purdy might have some sort of intangible that Mac Jones
23:02 ultimately doesn't have I totally allow for that but you know I've watched some
23:08 San Francisco games this year just because you know I love Shanahan's
23:11 offense and but what you see with Brock Purdy especially when all his guys are
23:16 healthy you know Trent Williams and McCaffrey and Debo and Kittles and you
23:21 know you know all these guys you know when they are healthy Brock Purdy is in
23:29 the MVP discussion you know there have been games when Trent Williams has been
23:34 out when Debo's been out when Christian McCaffrey's been out and he throws like
23:41 three interceptions he looks terrible and like you know what you see with
23:46 Brock Purdy is what you get when you have a quarterback who is who is well
23:52 supported that he has he has a head coach with confidence in him a head
23:57 coach who game plans better than anybody who game plans around what he does well
24:02 and what he doesn't do well how to you know they go out and get guys who all
24:07 you need to do is distribute the ball and they go get another 20 yards after
24:11 the catch or what-have-you you know I just think that I don't know how people
24:17 watch the San Francisco 49ers and then watch the Patriots and think that they're
24:22 even in the same stratosphere as far as how to support a limited quarterback and
24:28 let's all be honest like Brock Purdy you might want to say he's an MVP candidate
24:31 but he's not the most talented guy you know he's probably a little bit more
24:36 athletic than Mac and there are certainly things that I like that he does
24:39 way better than Mac but right you know when you get when you get the coaching
24:43 that he does on a day-in day-out basis on a real coaching staff a real
24:47 offensive coaching staff you know and has been for years that's what you get
24:51 and when you don't do that when you don't support the quarterback in any
24:55 realm this is what you get with Mac Jones and so that was my biggest takeaway
25:00 from watching the games. So to really just get to the gist of the Purdy thing
25:05 before Debo Samuel and Trent Williams were out due to injury Terry Bradshaw
25:10 people you know Rex Ryan and stuff we're calling this guy Joe Montana then look
25:15 at the games when Debo and Trent Williams were out Purdy was awful he was
25:19 a turnover machine the offense fell off a cliff just due to the absence of those
25:24 two guys if you don't think talent around you. Didn't they lose three straight games? I think they lost three
25:29 straight at one point. Yeah and Purdy had more than I think two or more picks and
25:32 like all of those games that those guys were out like he was just a
25:36 disaster. And they scored 17 points each they scored 17 points each game too.
25:42 My biggest takeaway was young top-tier offensive players Greg and how the
25:48 Patriots don't really have any of those guys. Pop Douglas nice surprise I like
25:52 Pop I have high expectations and I'm optimistic about that guy and what he
25:56 can do but Iuke, CeeDee Lamb, Amon Ross St. Brown, Jamison Williams who's starting
26:02 to get it going with Detroit after all of his stuff injuries and off the field
26:06 stuff the suspension and even Green Bay with Watson. Watson got it going with a
26:10 couple of big plays. Romeo Dobbs makes some tough catches in the middle of the
26:14 field just young wide receiver talent and you look around the league and it
26:18 should drive Patriots fans nuts that they can't figure it out it's it's just
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26:59 Alright let's move on to the Giants quickly Greg. Frankly you put in the
27:09 notes they blow. Your thoughts about this football team? Yeah my quickie thoughts on
27:17 this you know I the Giants offensive line is freaking horrendous. Like I love
27:24 it and the big thing is it can the Patriots should be able to get crazy
27:29 pressure on Tommy DeVito who by the way I just want to note I forget who it was
27:33 I don't know if it was Gasper or somebody else referred to Tommy DeVito
27:36 as a Rutgers quarterback. No don't even say that he didn't go to Rutgers he went
27:40 to Syracuse. So I don't want to even hear that stuff don't put him on us. But
27:44 anyways he their offensive line is freaking horrible especially it looks
27:50 like the right tackle I forget his name right now but it looks like
27:55 he's gonna be out he hasn't practiced all week. I mean they are freaking
27:59 horrendous outside of the left tackle Thomas. They have good they have good
28:04 skill players I mean okay skill players Jalen Hyatt's a rookie that you know a
28:09 lot of people wanted the Patriots to get. I know that Dayball will have a good
28:13 plan against the Patriots. He knows how to game plan against the Patriots. So if
28:18 they if the Patriots don't get pressure in this game this has to be a big Josh
28:21 Uche game for me. If it's not then I think that the Giants are gonna do some
28:29 things because Dayball knows how to go up against the Patriots. Defensively
28:33 Lawrence is incredible in the middle of the Giants line. You have to block him
28:39 could be a horrible day for Cole Strange. Good matchup to see where he is.
28:44 Their cornerbacks stink. Their safeties are pretty good. Looks like Okariki is
28:48 gonna be back at linebacker. There's Simmons you have to deal with Wink
28:55 Martindale. They bring a lot of pressure. He blitzes a lot. So it's gonna be to me
29:01 as usual this is gonna be on the two lines. You know which line does a better
29:06 job the Patriots or the Giants. That's gonna tell the story of the game.
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29:21 Moneyline bet. Patriots are favored on the road by three and a half. Greg the
29:25 over-under is is something to behold. 34 is the over-under number. Your
29:35 pick on this game Greg. I do like the Patriots in this game but I just think
29:41 giving them three and a half on the road is is way too much. Maybe they you know
29:47 win by you know one or something like that. So you know I think the pay I'm
29:51 gonna pick the Patriots to win this game. I just think that they're more competent
29:55 across the board. I do think the offensive line will find a way to hold
29:58 up. Trent Brown has been practicing this week after dealing with a personal thing
30:03 last week and also his injuries maybe he's a little bit better this week. So
30:07 you know and I think as long as they have him that I think they get back to
30:10 making the gains that they did on the offensive line in previous weeks. So I
30:14 think the Patriots win I just think that's a little bit too too big of a
30:18 number and I think I'm actually gonna go over the 34 but that's 34. Paul Pierce 34.
30:29 Alright so I like the Patriots but I'm standing by my edict. I said a couple of
30:38 weeks ago I'm not picking the Patriots any of these picks until they actually
30:42 win a football game on the field. So I'm gonna go with the Giants getting the
30:46 three and a half at home. I'll go Giants and I'll go over 34 because that number
30:51 is crazy. Like the whoever's playing quarterback I just feel like you'll see
30:56 at least three or four turnovers in this game which will set up short fields. So
31:00 I'll go over the 34. Alright check us out and check Greg out over at BSJ. 50
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31:09 Best sources around to give you the information. Also John Corrales does some
31:13 great work with the Celtics. You know the deal. BSJ member question of the day from
31:17 Tyler. Hey Greg by most accounts sounds like Mayo is the head coach in waiting.
31:22 If that does happen will that limit their options when it comes to hiring a
31:26 GM? Can't imagine any GM worth their salt that would take a job without having any
31:31 input on the coach they'll be working with. Well you know I picked this
31:35 question from our from my member chat which I'll be doing later today. I do
31:39 that every week with the members and we do it on every sport. You know for a
31:44 couple different reasons. Number one the Mayo topic was popular with the sources
31:50 that I talked to. The league executives. They want to know what's going on. I would
31:55 say that almost universally they all think that Mayo is going to be the next
31:59 head coach. That leads into a big discussion. A lot of
32:07 the sources worry about what that looks like with Mayo in charge.
32:12 They just don't think that he has a and you you would think he wouldn't
32:17 that he wouldn't have a very big Rolodex in terms of how to fill out his coaching
32:21 staff and personnel and things like that. I think the big
32:26 thing is is that Mayo is gonna have to find somebody.
32:32 They have some great there are a few different options I think and I think
32:36 the most important thing that the Crafts do is if it's Mayo then they he has to
32:41 pick a GM that he's gonna work with. I do think like internally the
32:47 reviews aren't very good on on Matt Groh. I could just tell you that from talking
32:51 to these sources. They think he was way under prepared for this job
32:55 coming from college scouting about how to how to build the team and
33:00 like that. Assuming it's not Matt Groh I mean it could be but you know
33:06 Pat Stewart's in the building. He rose very high with the Panthers. Elliot
33:11 Wolfe of course. John Robinson I still think has a lot of time and money left
33:16 on his Titans contract but he's thought of very highly.
33:22 The big thing is Mayo is going to have to find a way.
33:26 They just can't change the head coach and think that things are
33:31 gonna be better and I hope that Gerard doesn't think that. I hope the Crafts
33:34 doesn't think that. Gerard's gonna have to rely on his agent Sean Kiernan
33:39 from Athletes First. Very experienced, very good agent. They have a long depth
33:44 chart in terms of coaching prospects around the league but it's incumbent
33:49 upon Gerard to when he gets in there find the right personnel guy. Sounds like
33:55 John Robinson. A lot of people think he's the best option. We'll see whether he
33:59 wants to do that but he also has to do what he has to do with the
34:05 coaching staff. Just don't do Steve Belichick if that's not what you believe
34:09 and go find the best coaching staff possible or else it's
34:13 almost pointless to let go of Bill at this point. I don't think you bring back
34:17 the Belichick's. I don't think you bring back a number of these guys.
34:21 What has Troy Brown done at wide receiver to continue his job? Special
34:26 Teams has been a disaster. Blow those guys out. The one thing though that
34:30 interests me and I talked about this on my pod this week so I won't go too in
34:34 depth about it. I did a whole podcast on Gerard Mayo before Thanksgiving. The one
34:38 thing I would say though is offensive coordinator and I know people want to
34:41 get rid of Bill O'Brien. They want a young offensive mind and I understand
34:44 all of that but I truly believe it depends on the quarterback. If you
34:49 don't get a top pick in this draft, if you don't get a top three pick and you
34:52 don't have a shot at one of Mayer Williams and you're not necessarily
34:56 believing that the other guys, that all of them, there's not one guy that
35:01 could be that next face of the franchise dude. As much as people hate this idea,
35:05 there is a possibility that Mac Jones is back next year. Now he could be back with
35:09 say Michael Penix or a Jaden Daniels and you have a quarterback competition or
35:13 you bring in a vet quarterback. If you're bringing Mac Jones back, you're
35:20 likely to bring another quarterback in that is similar to Mac so you run an
35:24 offense that can work for either quarterback that wins the competition. So
35:28 I want people to keep that in mind because Bill O'Brien might actually hang
35:31 around with Mayo because if you do bring back, let's say you're quote-unquote
35:35 stuck with Mac, if you bring him back you don't want to give him another system to
35:41 learn. He's already gone through three different offensive coordinators.
35:44 So I would just remember that fact. The OC is tied to the hip
35:51 with the quarterback and if they're in a position where they can't get somebody
35:55 else who is an absolute upgrade over Mac or they want to have a competition,
35:58 O'Brien could be back as OC as well to try to at least keep that consistency on
36:02 that side of the football. I completely agree, Nick. I completely agree and I just
36:08 wanted to add that like you know a checkmark for for Bill O'Brien and I do
36:13 think you have the benefit of him probably wanting to stick around and who
36:16 knows when he wants to be a head coach again and you know he's been transient
36:20 for a while and his family is settled but a checkmark for him is that he
36:24 tailored the Patriots system to Deshaun Watson and it worked pretty well and
36:29 so you know he has the ability to to tailor it how the quarterback needs it
36:35 even if he has different quarterbacks in the room like say Mac Jones and Jaden
36:39 Daniels or somebody like that like Bill O'Brien is a guy that I would feel very
36:43 confident in doing that in the best interest of the Patriots.
36:47 He's Greg, I'm Nick. Everybody have a great weekend.
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