This week, Sean, Jade and Scott look at the best selling cars in Australia, argue over the hottest metal at IAA Mobility in Munich and Jade tells us what it's like to take part in Isuzu's iVenture Club.
Welcome to our new video podcast! While we've been publishing the CarExpert Podcast as an audio podcast for some time, we wanted to change things up with a video podcast! It’s hosted by Sean Lander (one of our videographers), resident CarExpert Scott Collie and our Social Media guru Jade Credentino.
August VFacts report: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/vfacts-august-2023-another-aussie-sales-record-as-supply-rebounds
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Welcome to our new video podcast! While we've been publishing the CarExpert Podcast as an audio podcast for some time, we wanted to change things up with a video podcast! It’s hosted by Sean Lander (one of our videographers), resident CarExpert Scott Collie and our Social Media guru Jade Credentino.
August VFacts report: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/vfacts-august-2023-another-aussie-sales-record-as-supply-rebounds
Skip Ahead:
Intro: 00:00
VFacts 01:21
Munich Motor Show 10:31
iVenture Club 28:00
Outro 38:02
We review every new car on the market, bust car myths, cover the latest car tech and answer your burning questions.
Whether you need new car advice, purchase validation or simply love learning more about new cars and technology, we are your car experts.
Subscribe to Car Expert: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7DvMhvy3H7ntEgn9n3xQcQ?sub_confirmation=1
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00:00 G'day and welcome to the Car Expert podcast.
00:02 I'm your host, Shaun, as always.
00:03 And joining me, as always, is Jay Credentino and Scott Colley.
00:07 Guys, how are you doing today?
00:08 Living the dream, Shaun.
00:09 I would hope so. How about you, Jade?
00:11 I know it's sunny outside in Melbourne.
00:13 It's meant to rain this afternoon, so I'm excited for now.
00:16 Yes, I'm glad we're inside enjoying the sun from here.
00:18 Unrelated to Car Expert, finals football starts tonight.
00:22 OK, well, there you go.
00:23 That's the Victorian on the couch coming out here.
00:26 I'm not so phased by it, are you Jade?
00:29 No, not AFL.
00:30 Well, we are a car podcast, so I think we should move on to cars.
00:33 It's been a really big week in the car world.
00:35 We've had VFACs have just dropped.
00:37 The IAA Mobility, which is the Munich Motor Show,
00:41 it's better known as, has been on in Germany, Munich, obviously.
00:44 So we're going to dive into both of those topics and have a bit of a look
00:48 at what's hot and what's not out of Munich.
00:50 We also have a live cross, well, not live, but we have a cross
00:52 to Paul and Alborz, who have been over in Munich checking things out.
00:55 So stick around for that.
00:57 I'm keen to see this because I know that those things are really hard to film.
01:01 Yes. At these motor shows, because you're filming all of a sudden
01:03 there's 18 German TV reporters who want to film in front of the same car.
01:06 I want to know if they got through it uninterrupted.
01:08 Yes. Well, spoiler alert, they didn't.
01:10 But it wasn't another reporter.
01:12 It was actually a security guard and you will see that coming up.
01:15 So it's something to look forward to.
01:17 But let's get straight into it.
01:18 VFACs have dropped this month.
01:20 Now, if you don't know what VFACs are, it's basically the monthly reporting
01:24 of all new car deliveries.
01:26 It's not sales, it's deliveries of new cars.
01:28 So that's where the numbers come from.
01:30 So I guess what are our headlines, Scott, in VFACs this month?
01:33 So for August 2023, it was a massive month.
01:36 New car supply is improving.
01:38 And on the back of that, we saw a big increase relative to August 2022.
01:42 It's about 15,000 more cars were delivered this month,
01:46 this year than last year, right?
01:48 And that doesn't necessarily mean that there were 15,000 cars more sold,
01:52 but more that brands like Toyota with long wait times have a whole lot of orders
01:56 from the last 12 months that they're finally starting to deliver
01:58 and they're starting to clear that backlog.
02:00 Yeah, about time, right?
02:01 Yeah, I think it's really exciting looking at these like top line numbers
02:04 and a lot of new models coming in as well.
02:07 And I think that number is just going to continuously increase.
02:10 So I'm very excited.
02:11 So before we dive into the nitty gritty of it, one interesting stat
02:15 I wanted to point out was the growth year on year.
02:18 So this time last year, they'd sold 770 or delivered 717,000 cars.
02:22 And this year, they're up to 788,000.
02:25 So the big question is, will we crack the magic million
02:29 new car deliveries in 2023?
02:31 I did the math. Yes.
02:33 If we're on the same trajectory based on averages per month,
02:36 we should hit just over 1.1 million, which is very exciting.
02:40 Cristobal Credentino. Yeah, that's really good. I like that.
02:43 I mean, that is an impressive number considering there's about 13 million
02:47 registered vehicles in Australia.
02:49 Yeah. And there's what, 23 million people.
02:51 Yeah, so it's crazy.
02:53 Remove all the children that can't buy cars.
02:55 But that's what I mean.
02:55 That's a lot of cars. That's a lot of cars.
02:58 A lot of especially we don't manufacture anything here.
03:00 Everything's coming in through ports.
03:01 That is really impressive.
03:03 But let's dive into some of the numbers now, Jade.
03:05 I know you've got a little list prepared there
03:07 and you want to talk about something in particular.
03:09 So I'll let you take the stage to start with.
03:12 Well, look, I think you've got obviously two ways to look at it.
03:14 You can look at the top 20 brands and the top 20 models, both of which
03:18 Toyota seem to be quite comfortably in both.
03:21 Not a huge surprise.
03:22 That is the normal situation in Australia.
03:24 What's really interesting here,
03:26 Toyota, since May, has had a massive increase in their deliveries,
03:30 which we did expect after, you know, clearing all that backlog.
03:33 But as of August, I'm going to count here from my notes.
03:37 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven categories
03:40 in this month's VFACs go straight to Toyota.
03:43 So it means that they're coming back.
03:45 RAV4, which had extensive long delays.
03:48 I remember about 18 months ago, they were looking at two,
03:51 even sometimes two and a half to three year delays on them.
03:54 That's now dominating its segment.
03:56 So it's really exciting to see Toyota come back and those customers
03:59 who really were waiting a really long time to finally get their cars.
04:02 And the good news on the back of that is not just if you're waiting for a car,
04:05 but if you're trying to buy a new car, all of a sudden the power is starting to shift again.
04:09 For a really long time, we saw dealers charging big markups.
04:11 But I actually spoke to a dealer this morning who said he's come back
04:15 from leave to having 70 cars in stock.
04:17 Wow. And that means there are deals to be had because these dealers
04:20 that don't want cars sitting around rather than paying you off
04:24 against another buyer and making you pay more, they're going to give you a deal.
04:26 They're going to throw in servicing, something like that to get the car off their lot.
04:30 Yes. So I think the big penalty shootout this month went between the Hilux
04:33 and the Ranger, unsurprisingly, but there was a two cars difference,
04:38 which is, which is amazing.
04:41 It's like, yeah, if they had Ford squeeze three more cars on the boat,
04:44 that would have changed the game for them this month.
04:46 So very impressive.
04:47 And I think year on year, we've seen a big increase in Ranger sales.
04:50 Now, we've got to remember this time last year, the old Ranger was on the way out.
04:55 The new Ranger was on the way in.
04:56 So it's not a great statistic to look at year on year.
04:59 But to see to see them bring it to Hilux,
05:02 especially considering how much Hilux demand
05:06 there's been over the last few years, is really impressive.
05:08 The other key stat when you're looking at Ranger and Hilux sales
05:11 is the type of sales they are.
05:12 And this data, which is put together by the peak body for car makers,
05:15 splits out four by two and four by four sales.
05:18 And the Ranger dominates the four by four sales,
05:21 which are the Wildtracks, the XLTs, the expensive ones where Ford
05:24 really makes money.
05:25 Toyota still sells plenty of those, but its lead over Ford is in the four by twos,
05:29 which are the ones that go to...
05:31 That's all the fleet, the houses, the workmates, the mining fleets, that sort of thing.
05:34 There's about 30% of the Hilux sales were four by twos, right?
05:38 So you're talking workmate, single cab.
05:40 Yeah.
05:41 The cheaper cars with lower margins on them that go to big fleets
05:44 that don't necessarily want all the bells and whistles.
05:46 They just need a car that will work nonstop for them.
05:49 Yeah, that makes sense.
05:50 That makes sense.
05:50 The other surprising one that sort of crept up here is Isuzu, isn't it Jade?
05:55 I always have a little soft spot for Isuzu in the VFAC charts.
06:00 I think they only have two models and still both models are always in the top 20.
06:04 Not always, but most of the time in the top 20.
06:07 So it's really nice to see the D-Max is, you know, in top five
06:12 in the MUX, sitting at 17, but it's just behind the Everest.
06:16 So I think that that's going to be my new favorite thing to look out for every month.
06:20 Is it Everest or MUX?
06:22 Or CX-9.
06:24 Yeah.
06:24 Yeah, right. OK, so it's a big month for VFACs.
06:30 It's a big month for sales.
06:32 And I think we're going to just keep seeing this growth.
06:34 You know, like we spoke about a couple of weeks ago,
06:35 Ford have rented a boat to bring in Rangers and Everest.
06:39 There's a whole bunch of new cars coming towards the end of this year,
06:42 especially in the EV segment.
06:43 So I think we're going to keep seeing this grow.
06:45 Can I throw a couple of anomalies at you just quickly?
06:47 Yeah, totally.
06:48 Before we move on, there are two things that caught my eye
06:50 that I'm really interested for your thoughts on.
06:52 The first is Lexus.
06:54 For the first time ever in Australia, it's sold more than 10,000 cars in a year.
06:57 And it's only the end of August on the sales charts.
07:00 So do Audi and BMW have anything to be worried about?
07:03 Well, Lexus have been hampered by stock issues as well.
07:07 That's same as Toyota, obviously.
07:09 So I think that's really impressive for them to do that.
07:11 So NX a big seller for them.
07:12 Yes, that's what I was going to say.
07:13 Yeah, NX seems to be dominating their, I guess, their golden child.
07:18 And they've got lots of them.
07:21 Yeah, so the base petrol NX250, we know dealers that work with CarXpert
07:26 have these cars in stock and ready to deliver, which is pretty unusual.
07:29 We also know the hybrid wait times are coming down.
07:32 But certain dealers, if you walk in today, you can actually walk out
07:35 with a brand new NX250, and that's not something you could say for a long time.
07:39 The other one is we talk a lot about electric cars on this podcast.
07:43 The Nissan Patrol, which is 11 years old.
07:46 Yeah. And it's powered only by a V8 and has a screen in the middle
07:49 that is like a Nokia phone, has just had its biggest ever month.
07:53 It was only narrowly outsold by the Toyota Land Cruiser.
07:56 Why are people still buying this car?
07:59 Is it because it has a V8?
08:01 V8's a big thing, yeah.
08:02 But as we saw in our off-road mega test and our towing mega test,
08:05 it just nails that touring brief.
08:07 And I think there is I think there's still a huge demand for people touring,
08:11 because if you look at a little off topic from VFACs,
08:13 but caravan sales are still through the roof in Australia.
08:15 So there is a lot of demand for a vehicle that can do all that
08:19 and have the space for the kids and be comfortable.
08:21 So I'd be interested to see in the next few months.
08:24 Will it eventually take over the Land Cruiser?
08:26 I think the Land Cruiser, I'm not going to say it's overpriced,
08:30 but it is more expensive.
08:33 I'm very careful with what I say, but the Patrol is cheaper.
08:37 And I know that last year the Patrol had supply issues
08:40 and that's obviously been cleared up.
08:41 And now with Patrol Warrior coming through, is that going to increase even more?
08:45 I think Toyota might need to, you know, have a look around at their competitors
08:50 and seriously consider, you know, Patrol taking the lead.
08:53 I think what Toyota does have up its sleeve is that Land Cruiser name is so strong.
08:57 And I know the Patrol's been held back by wait times.
08:59 There was a period there where if you wanted a 300 series Land Cruiser,
09:02 you could either wait for 12, 18 months, something like that,
09:05 or pay more than $200,000 for a dealer demo.
09:08 So Nissan's not the only one dealing with those stock problems.
09:11 And I think for now, the Land Cruiser is pretty safe.
09:13 Yeah, I'd agree.
09:15 And the fact that Nissan only have basically two versions of the Patrol,
09:19 like a base one and a fancy one, which are not really that different.
09:23 No, not really.
09:24 And Toyota has such a variety, such a fan base.
09:27 Patrol is not selling to every farmer in the bush.
09:31 I do agree.
09:33 Can someone in the comments, I'm going to down the barrel,
09:35 hey, hey, it's Saturday style here.
09:37 Can someone in the comments do the maths on how much petrol you can buy
09:40 with the $40,000 difference between a top spec Patrol
09:43 and a top spec Land Cruiser, please? I've always wondered this.
09:45 Yes, right.
09:46 So it's podcast@carexpert.com.au
09:48 If you're a math whiz and could figure that one out, we'd love to know that.
09:52 Or not a math whiz, just have a calculator.
09:53 Yeah, well, yes. I don't know how one of those works.
09:55 I don't know about you guys.
09:56 We might ask Siri later.
09:57 I studied journalism for a reason. It's not numbers.
09:59 Well, there you go. I think that wraps up VFACs for this month.
10:01 A lot of great stuff happening.
10:02 We will put a link in the description of the show
10:05 where you can read the Car Expert article with all the details, all the breakdown.
10:08 There's a lot of really interesting stuff there.
10:10 And if you have a new car on order, you're waiting for it to be delivered.
10:14 Leave a comment. Let us know.
10:15 But we will move on to the IAA Mobility or the Munich Motor Show,
10:20 depending on how you want to look at it.
10:21 Which used to be the Frankfurt Motor Show.
10:23 Yes. But has been moved from Frankfurt to Munich for reasons I don't quite understand.
10:28 Logistics?
10:29 Munich Motor Show is illiterative.
10:31 It's catchy. I have no idea.
10:32 Anyway, it's good.
10:34 It's sort of one of the first big motor shows I've actually seen back on the calendar
10:38 since COVID.
10:39 There was actually, I recall right at the start of COVID,
10:42 a lot of journos were about to head off to motor shows and it just stopped.
10:44 Yeah, it was just before the Geneva show, I think, which is the biggest in the world.
10:47 Yeah. And is going to be in Qatar.
10:48 Yes, in Qatar. Explain that to me.
10:50 That's what I wanted to mention.
10:50 Yeah. How? I don't know.
10:53 You know, it's Switzerland.
10:54 So it's like having the 2020 Olympics in 2021.
10:57 Yes. Yeah, that's true.
10:59 But to give us a rundown on what's actually been happening,
11:01 Paul and Albo are on the ground.
11:02 We're going to cross to them live and they're going to let us know,
11:05 fellas, what's going on in Munich?
11:07 Thank you, Sean.
11:08 Mate, we're at the Munich Motor Show.
11:10 It's been a while for motor shows.
11:11 I know. 2019 for Germany.
11:13 Yeah. I mean, it's it's crazy.
11:15 We used to go to motor shows like every year around the world
11:18 and they've all just died down.
11:19 But I feel like they're starting to get a bit of a resurgence now.
11:22 Definitely not Frankfurt, though.
11:23 I got to tell you, it's a little bit different.
11:25 It's a bit smaller and it's all spread out.
11:27 Well, what we thought we'd do.
11:29 I'm being hosted by Volkswagen at the moment.
11:30 You're with BMW.
11:31 I thought we'd quickly run through the new stuff that we have
11:34 with the brands that we're with.
11:36 The guys back in Melbourne will then run you through
11:38 all the other stuff that's gone on at the show.
11:40 For Volkswagen, I was pretty surprised to see GTIs going electric.
11:45 So I got to ask this.
11:46 Is it only electric or is it going to be offered in electric?
11:48 Well, offered in electric.
11:50 So IDGTI is basically going to be front wheel drive, electric, sporty.
11:54 And why is it front wheel drive if it's electric?
11:56 Well, I think they want to preserve GTI, right?
11:59 And they've got GTX stuff, which is all wheel drive and sporty and stuff.
12:03 So I think to me, they just want to keep that branding.
12:05 And it seems like they want to capitalize on that branding to make it work.
12:08 The thing I'm a little concerned about, they're saying it's coming in 2027.
12:12 2027? Yeah.
12:14 And they said it was 90 percent complete.
12:16 It's like, how have you not got it ready to go?
12:19 So but they're saying that...
12:21 Hey, good for us internal combustion fans.
12:23 Well, yes.
12:24 And they're saying as well, 25,000 euros is what they're targeting
12:27 for the ID. All and the GTI.
12:29 And I think that should mean affordability.
12:31 By that point, battery tech will have improved.
12:34 It should all become sort of cheaper by that point as well.
12:36 So that should be really interesting. Yeah.
12:37 And it looks cool. It's nice and sporty.
12:38 It's got flared wheel arches. It's all sort of happening.
12:40 In terms of other stuff with the Volkswagen Group Q6 e-tron,
12:44 they've previewed the new interior.
12:46 So I love that.
12:46 So they've gone away from that Audi style of haptic feedback screens
12:49 that are quite low.
12:50 Got that curved display.
12:52 Really looks quite impressive.
12:54 CUPRA, they have a concept car that looks absolutely unreal.
12:59 Is it electric?
13:00 It's electric.
13:01 Everything is electric.
13:02 Yes, exactly. These days.
13:03 So tell me about BMW.
13:05 What's what's...
13:06 Look, BMW has a massive unveiling at the show. BMW and MINI.
13:09 MINI, obviously, with the new CUPRA electric, new countryman electric.
13:11 They're actually being built out of China by GWM.
13:14 So that's kind of interesting.
13:15 GWM?
13:16 GWM, yes.
13:17 But BMW itself has the new newer class vision concept,
13:21 which previews a new design language.
13:23 So it's a complete departure.
13:25 The grill is smaller.
13:26 There is a small grill.
13:28 Although, based on the poll I ran on Instagram, people still didn't like it.
13:32 And I was like, what more do they need to do?
13:33 The grill is big. The grill is small.
13:35 Someone's got to like it.
13:36 It actually looks really good. I really like it.
13:38 It's going to basically underpin all the new design languages from BMW.
13:42 And it looks great.
13:43 However, they showed a sedan, like a 3 Series.
13:45 But the first new class of design will actually be an SUV.
13:48 And it'll come in 2025, built out of Hungary.
13:51 And we should get it sort of around that time.
13:52 So it looks really nice.
13:53 So, I mean, they're all focusing on electric cars.
13:56 We're seeing that Volkswagen is partnering with Chinese companies
13:59 to do what they need to do.
14:01 They're actually setting up their own Chinese, I guess, philosophy.
14:06 So everything will just happen in China and it will just stay in China.
14:09 And I think strategically, it means that they can go into a price war in China
14:13 and not devalue their brand globally.
14:15 Because if you sell a Q6 e-tron in Europe
14:18 and then one in China for, you know, two thirds of the price.
14:21 I know, but with MINI, all the electric ones coming out of China.
14:24 - Yeah. - Even for Europe.
14:25 - Oh, really? - Yeah.
14:26 - So it's a little different. - That's interesting.
14:28 It is interesting.
14:29 And, you know, like, I mean, the iX3 comes out of China, so it's not new.
14:32 Yeah.
14:33 But I do wonder as we go forward, I guess we have to get used to it.
14:36 Polestar is Chinese, Tesla is Chinese.
14:38 Like, they're all built in China and they're pretty good.
14:40 So I guess it doesn't really matter.
14:42 To me, I mean, we drive a Tesla made in China.
14:44 - There's no difference to me. - You drive a Tesla.
14:46 My wife drives a Tesla.
14:48 I drive a Raptor. Sometimes when the diff works.
14:50 And then the other one as well, I thought I'd touch on.
14:52 Volkswagen announced they were investing something like $180 billion
14:56 over the next three to five years on this plan that they have
14:59 for transitioning towards electric.
15:02 - That's a lot of money. - $180 billion.
15:03 I suspect they're taking a lot of the money from the IPO of Porsche
15:06 to make it happen.
15:07 But they are throwing so much money at this.
15:11 - Well, they need to, though, right? - It just flies by the line.
15:12 I feel like as a brand,
15:14 they're not as up to date with the EV stuff as some of the others.
15:17 And I like that because I'm not an EV guy.
15:19 But I feel like that's obviously put them in a little bit of a,
15:22 I guess, uncompetitive disadvantage to some of their competitors.
15:25 So, I don't know.
15:26 I was really surprised to see that Golf GTI electric
15:29 and it being front wheel drive.
15:31 It's kind of like calling the Taycan "Tobo".
15:34 It doesn't have a "Tobo".
15:35 So just because it was front wheel drive,
15:37 doesn't mean it needs to continue to be front wheel drive.
15:39 But I guess some people love that too.
15:41 Yeah, look, we had actually planned to do like a proper sit down podcast here,
15:46 but we've been so constrained on time
15:48 that we've just got these very short wraps.
15:49 So that is all we've got time for.
15:51 We're already being hurried up here.
15:52 They're packing up the stand around us.
15:55 I think this is cool.
15:55 I'm hoping that motor shows are back.
15:57 I love the buzz, the excitement of seeing these new vehicles.
16:00 And look, if this is the new format where they've got satellites,
16:03 sights outside of the main hall like this, whatever,
16:07 Geneva Motor Show is actually going to be in Qatar.
16:09 - It's still called the Geneva Motor Show.
16:11 - Which is kind of weird.
16:11 But anyway, so let us know what you reckon in the comment section below.
16:14 What do you think about some of the new products that are rolling out here?
16:17 What do you think about GTI?
16:17 What do you think about the new Class?
16:18 Or what do you think about all the other stuff that's going on at the Munich Motor Show?
16:23 Back to you, Sean.
16:25 - Thanks, guys.
16:26 I hope you're having fun over there in Munich.
16:28 I know Paul is about to head off from the IAA Mobility
16:31 to drive a couple of interesting Volkswagen products.
16:34 - That's one way of putting it.
16:36 - Yes, so make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel to see that
16:38 because we'll have videos dropping over the next couple of weeks for that.
16:41 But let's play a little game, guys.
16:43 I wanted to play Hot or Not with some of the reviews.
16:46 - Members of the car-- oh.
16:48 - Yeah, no, no, not that one.
16:49 - Different thing.
16:50 - A little game of Hot or Not with some of the reveals from the IAA Mobility in Munich.
16:54 - I feel like I'm back in high school.
16:56 - So this is like the original version of the Facebook.
17:00 - Which one of us is Zuckerberg?
17:01 - Yeah, you, definitely.
17:04 So I'm going to run through a list of some of the cool reveals.
17:07 And I want to know from you guys whether it's hot or not.
17:09 And if not, why?
17:12 Yes.
17:13 So we'll start off with the Volkswagen ID GTI.
17:16 - Scott? - Hot.
17:18 - Love it. - Jade?
17:18 - I think what they're trying to do is great.
17:20 I think they're trying to fill that-- they can see a gap when they go to EV only
17:26 and have that GTI badge kind of lost.
17:29 So I understand what they're trying to do there.
17:32 Do I love it?
17:33 Not yet. - The rule is not whether you love it,
17:34 whether it's hot or not.
17:35 - No, I don't know.
17:37 I don't know. - I'm going to fight you on this one.
17:39 The GTI badge is a bit lost at the moment.
17:41 - Yeah, that's my point, yeah.
17:42 - So R has kind of taken over as the hero for Volkswagen.
17:45 They've got GTX, et cetera.
17:47 The idea of an affordable front-wheel drive hot hatch that is also electric
17:51 is kind of a throwback to what GTI used to be.
17:53 I think it's Volkswagen giving it the respect it deserves,
17:56 and I'm excited to see what they do with it.
17:58 - I do want to bring up something.
17:59 Albo's just mentioned that it is only front-wheel drive,
18:02 which we're seeing in a few things.
18:03 BMW, the RX1 is going to be front-wheel drive only.
18:07 From a vehicle handling standpoint, do you guys think that that's the best
18:10 option for electric?
18:11 Or should they be focusing rear-wheel drive, front-wheel steering?
18:15 - Given the choice, I would prefer to drive a rear-wheel drive car.
18:18 But I think in the case of the ID.GTI, front-wheel drive can also be a
18:24 selling point.
18:24 You look at the Honda Civic Type R, for example, and the fact it drives really
18:28 well is enhanced by the fact it's a front-drive car.
18:31 With electric cars, there is an opportunity for Volkswagen to make it handle like a
18:35 really special front-wheel drive sort of focused hot hatch.
18:39 And I think they can make it a feature rather than a drawback.
18:42 Can I also say what's not hot is the people playing table tennis outside our
18:45 office right now?
18:46 - I do apologize.
18:46 If you can hear that, there is a ping pong game going on outside our office.
18:50 So apologies for that one.
18:51 - It's not from me.
18:52 - But okay.
18:53 But okay.
18:53 Thanks, Scott.
18:54 I appreciate that.
18:54 I guess the thing is torque steer has always been a problem in hot hatches.
18:59 But that potentially could be overcome with EVs because they can direct drive
19:03 individual wheels.
19:04 So I guess we'll have to just wait and see what happens with that one.
19:07 Okay, next one.
19:08 I know this is hot, but let's see what you guys think.
19:12 The Cupra Dark Rebel.
19:13 What do you think?
19:14 - I am here for it.
19:15 - Okay, that's a hot one, Jade.
19:16 Scott?
19:17 - Yeah.
19:18 - I'm actually a...
19:19 I'm a...
19:19 Can I give it like a tepid?
19:21 - Oh, come on.
19:21 It looks like a Batmobile.
19:22 It's awesome.
19:23 - It looks like a Batmobile, but I don't understand why we're bothering
19:27 with 100,000 euro Cupra.
19:29 I think their whole thing at the moment is affordable sports cars.
19:32 - They make a $3 million Beetle.
19:34 Like, the Bugatti Chiron's however much now.
19:36 - No, I know they do.
19:38 But if you're Cupra, I love the idea of a Cupra sports car,
19:41 but in my head it was always an affordable kind of people's sports car.
19:46 And we know that this might have Porsche Cayman bits underneath it,
19:49 the next gen car.
19:50 It might cost less than 100,000 euro.
19:53 Awesome.
19:54 Give me a fun little lightweight electric sports car that's the same price as a
19:57 Leon or a Born, and I'm here for it.
19:59 - I don't think it's going to be a car that someone will drive every day.
20:03 So I think having that be a little bit more expensive,
20:07 I think people will still consider it.
20:09 I think the thing that I quite like was a throwback to when I was 12.
20:14 It has the Cupra meta hype, which is like their meta universe.
20:19 And it's just like playing the simps.
20:21 And I'm like, this is why I'm here for it.
20:23 Nobody else has done this before.
20:24 It's giving me ultimate throwback vibes to 2003, 2004.
20:31 - Big throwback that one.
20:33 For our older listeners, we apologize.
20:36 - Yeah, the Simsies.
20:37 - Yes.
20:38 Okay, so I'm probably going to botch the pronunciation of this one.
20:41 - Yeah, go on, give us your best German accent.
20:43 - BMW New Class.
20:45 So what do we think, Scott?
20:47 - Hot.
20:47 I like it.
20:48 - Hot?
20:48 - J?
20:48 - Hot.
20:49 - So this is a really important car for BMW.
20:52 The New Class, New Class.
20:54 Oh, God.
20:56 I'm going to regret that.
20:58 The New Class name is a nod to the cars that essentially saved BMW in the 1960s.
21:03 So this is not something they'd bandy about lightly.
21:05 And it's their next generation of electric cars that they're going to have really fast
21:08 charging, longer ranges, competitive performance, and thank God, cleaner designs than current
21:14 BMWs.
21:15 I'm very here for it.
21:16 - All right, this is one that's probably going to raise some eyebrows in the viewers.
21:21 But the BYD Seal U.
21:24 Jade?
21:25 It's my favorite kitchen cleaning product.
21:27 - I put a big tick next to it.
21:28 - Oh, okay.
21:29 Interesting.
21:30 - I like it.
21:31 I think it's something that a lot of people, it's not too out of the box.
21:35 It's not something that people will be polarized by.
21:38 I think it's very sleek, nice, modern design.
21:42 And based on the article that we wrote, it's going to be about the size of a Hyundai Santa
21:47 Fe, so it's quite big.
21:48 - And could come to Australia based on--
21:50 - And might come to Australia.
21:51 So I'm pretty excited to see, especially adding more BYD products, to see what it's going
21:56 to look like.
21:57 It's a hot from me.
21:58 Scott?
21:59 - Scott?
21:59 - It's fine.
22:00 - Meh.
22:00 - It's an electric SUV.
22:01 - It is a bit meh.
22:02 - Yeah.
22:03 I like what BYD is doing with a lot of their cars.
22:05 I think the ADO3 is one of the best electric cars in Australia at the moment.
22:08 I'm sure this will be a really competent, really comfortable, well-priced electric SUV,
22:12 but it doesn't get me all hot under the collar.
22:14 - Does it have the rotating screen or we don't know yet?
22:17 - I've only seen pictures, which I'm sure we'll put up on the video.
22:20 - Is that why you were tilting your computer before?
22:22 - Yeah, yeah.
22:23 I just turned my laptop to the side.
22:27 Yeah.
22:27 I don't know.
22:28 We'll come back to you.
22:29 - All right.
22:29 Well, we'll go from building your dreams to life's good with the LG Omnipod.
22:35 - I don't even know what to think of this.
22:37 - Scott?
22:37 - Yeah.
22:38 So, this is not the only electronics company that's trying to get into the car game at the moment.
22:42 We know Sony has some concept cars.
22:43 - Sony's been trying for a long time.
22:45 - It's been trying for a long time.
22:46 Foxconn, which builds the iPhone and the Xbox.
22:48 - Didn't Apple have a concept car, electric concept car ages ago?
22:52 - It's been on again, off again.
22:53 It's the Brangelina of the car world, that Apple car.
22:56 The Omnipod, it's another one I'm indifferent towards.
22:59 It's essentially an opportunity for LG to put lots of its screens in an autonomous car pod and to control that whole experience.
23:07 There's a lot of money in it.
23:08 I am not remotely interested.
23:10 - Jade?
23:10 - No.
23:11 I think the concept is cool, but it should stay as a concept.
23:15 It should not go into production.
23:17 I don't think it'll do well in Australia, maybe in Asia.
23:21 There's a market for it, but it's a little bit too much.
23:24 - It is a very cool idea.
23:25 I think the best place for it is shuttling you between Sydney Domestic and Sydney International Airport.
23:30 - Yes, that's exactly it.
23:31 - That is where it belongs.
23:32 And if you've flown to America, I'm sure you know what to expect.
23:35 - Yeah, a lot of those airports have transfers between.
23:37 - The Dubai one is incredible.
23:38 - Exactly.
23:39 And I think that's a great place for it.
23:41 They can put advertising all over it, and it's clean for the environment.
23:45 - I'm going to be that jet-lagged by the time I land.
23:47 I'm not seeing any of that advertising.
23:48 That's besides the point.
23:49 - Because the OLED is lost on you.
23:52 - All right, let's move on to one that's probably a little more familiar to most people.
23:55 The Mercedes-Benz Concept CLA.
23:57 Jade, I'll go straight to you on this one.
23:59 - Ooh, interesting.
24:00 I quite liked the design.
24:03 I know a few people in the Car Expert team didn't vibe it.
24:06 - Looks like a computer mouse.
24:07 - Yeah, I'm going to be hot.
24:09 I'm going hot.
24:09 - Scott?
24:10 - Not.
24:11 - Not?
24:11 - The design, I have no interest in.
24:13 A lot of what Mercedes is doing at the moment, that sort of smooth, featureless thing, I'm not a huge fan of.
24:19 - It's very Vision EQS, isn't it?
24:21 - Exactly.
24:22 But I do like the look of the interior, and I love the idea of really long range, more than 500 kilometres.
24:27 - Yeah, it was 750 anticipated.
24:31 In inverted commas, 750 kilometres.
24:33 - And Tesla Model 3 pricing.
24:34 So that is hot.
24:35 The design is not.
24:36 - Yes, I'm not a fan of the headlights and taillights on it.
24:40 But the rest of it's kind of cool.
24:41 All right, we'll move on.
24:42 This one, I don't know how to feel about this one.
24:45 But let's see what you guys think.
24:46 The Polestar Synergy.
24:48 The name is terrible.
24:49 You know why it's called the Synergy, though?
24:51 Because it was designed half by the Polestar design team, and then half by submissions from the public.
24:57 - I was going to say government lobby, but fairly close.
24:59 - No, not quite.
24:59 So it's the Polestar McPolestar face.
25:02 I think this is hot.
25:03 - Yeah.
25:03 Jade?
25:04 - I'm going hot.
25:04 I would love to see Scott get in this.
25:06 It's 1.07 metres tall.
25:11 - That's not happening, I don't think.
25:12 Unless it's a race car with feet above bum sort of situation, I'm going to struggle.
25:16 - Fair enough.
25:16 All right.
25:17 - Keen for that.
25:17 - Last one to cap it all off.
25:19 The Renault Scenic E-Tech, which is an absolute mouthful.
25:22 But Jade, what do you think?
25:23 - I read an article before it got released, and in camouflage, it looked pretty cool.
25:29 It's expected to have up to 620 kilometres of range with the bigger battery pack.
25:36 So I think it'll be really cool, especially as a consumer product.
25:39 If it does come to Australia, I'm keen to see Renault take on the electric vehicle market here.
25:46 - I'm with Jade.
25:47 Hot.
25:47 I really like the way it looks, and we've got the Megane E-Tech Electric.
25:51 I don't know why they say E-Tech and electric in the name, but that's coming to Australia from about 60 grand.
25:55 If they can price this just above it when it does come to Australia, it's going to be a really interesting option.
25:59 - All right.
26:00 So I'd like to know if you guys are watching, what do you think is hot from this list?
26:04 But also, do you remember going to motor shows in Australia?
26:06 Leave us a comment.
26:07 Let us know.
26:08 I remember the last one I went to in Australia was the 2008 Sydney Motor Show, where they debuted the Amarok.
26:14 You were there?
26:14 You would have been like this tall.
26:15 - I was very small.
26:16 - Taller than I am now.
26:18 - Holden and Ford with the dominant stands.
26:21 Falcons and Commodores.
26:22 But yeah, they debuted the Amarok, and I remember thinking, "That is going to be a game changer."
26:26 And it was.
26:27 It was really cool.
26:28 - You had good foresight on that.
26:29 I actually took a whole lot of friends to one of the last Melbourne motor shows, what, 2006, 2007, for my 10th or 11th birthday.
26:36 - Yeah, wow.
26:37 Better than a Macca's birthday party.
26:38 - It was better than a Macca's birthday party, definitely.
26:40 - But yeah, I think bucket list, if you're looking at a motor show, bucket list.
26:43 It's not a traditional motor show, but SEMA, absolutely have to do.
26:47 I don't know about you, Scott, you got a bucket list motor show?
26:49 - I'm going to actually go, not a motor show, I'm going Goodwood.
26:53 It's on my bucket list too.
26:54 - It's kind of a motor show.
26:54 - Yeah, the festival of speed is something I desperately want to do.
26:57 Jade, you got one?
26:58 - I'm going to go Goodwood, but I did make a pledge to Scully a couple of weeks ago that by the time I turn 30, I'm going to go to every single motor show around the world.
27:06 - There's not many, so it should be easy.
27:08 - Yeah, it should be fine.
27:09 But yeah, that's my pledge, public.
27:11 - Well, if anything's caught your eye at Munich or there's anything currently on sale in Australia that has caught your eye, head to Help Me Car Expert on Google.
27:18 And what we'll do is we'll help you get a really good deal on a brand new car.
27:24 You head to Help Me Car Expert on Google, it'll open up a page where you see lots of pictures of Paul, and he'll be able to help you find the right price, help you connect to a dealer, and make sure that you get in your brand new car sooner rather than later.
27:35 Scott, are you impressed with the way I say new, by the way?
27:37 I just thought you'd point that out.
27:39 - I think you've taken some inspiration from BMW new class.
27:42 - I have, yes.
27:43 So yeah, if you are looking to buy a new car, head to Google, type in Help Me Car Expert.
27:48 And if you do buy a new car through there, leave us a comment and let us know what you bought.
27:51 Let us know what the experiences were like, because we're very curious to hear your thoughts on it.
27:55 All right, well, we'll move on to our last topic of the day.
27:58 It's actually one that Jade has a bit of experience in.
28:01 This is kind of fun.
28:02 Isuzu run what's called the iVenture Club, and basically it's an opportunity for Isuzu owners to go out bush bashing, off-roading, and understand how four-wheel drives work.
28:11 But Jade, you've actually done two of them now, is that correct?
28:15 - Yeah, that's right.
28:16 I did kind of mention it very briefly in last week's episode when we were looking at the MU-X versus the CX-9.
28:22 So I've got some current stats.
28:25 So they originally, they first launched in 2015, so it's been going on for quite a while.
28:32 There's been 5,800 Isuzu owners that have participated, so quite a lot.
28:37 And since 2015, there's been 280 events all over Australia.
28:42 Now, they've just introduced a towing training, again, based on last episode.
28:46 - Excellent.
28:47 The more towing training, the better.
28:48 - Yes.
28:48 - They did that because of our last episode.
28:50 - Exactly, yeah.
28:51 - Yeah, well, thanks, Isuzu.
28:52 I much appreciate it.
28:54 - So yeah, as you mentioned, I've done two.
28:56 I'm looking forward to doing another two later in the year.
28:59 One will be a towing one, and the other will be on sand.
29:02 So I'm very keen to get behind the wheel.
29:04 I think it's probably the greatest thing a manufacturer can do for a consumer.
29:11 There was a stat floating around that 90% of Isuzu buyers or four-wheel drive buyers never actually take their cars off-road.
29:18 So I think giving people the confidence in a controlled environment to do so is really important.
29:23 And I think a lot of people, it would encourage them to then go to the great outdoors.
29:27 - These are really cool events because I think what holds a lot of people back with their cars,
29:32 whether they're sports cars or off-roaders, is confidence.
29:35 You know, these cars have such incredible capabilities, everything from a BMW M car,
29:39 which has really clever traction control on a racetrack you can play with,
29:43 through to the Isuzu stuff that will take you a long way off-road, just like all their rivals will.
29:49 Once you know what these systems can do and understand how to use them and have some support to learn in a controlled environment,
29:55 it's amazing how far these cars will take you and what you can do with them that maybe you didn't think you could.
29:59 I've also done one of these iVentures. - Yes, that's right.
30:02 - I found it really, really informative and it's made me a more confident off-roader, no matter what I get in,
30:08 because there's some really basic stuff about tyre pressures, when to use low range, diff locks, that sort of thing,
30:13 that if you weren't sure, you might never touch the buttons.
30:17 - I think the thing that's...
30:18 A lot of people, if they Google how to go four-wheel driving, they're going to get met with a lot of negative things.
30:23 - Don't do this, don't do that. - Exactly, right.
30:25 But the thing is, four-wheel driving is a fantastic way to see the country.
30:28 There's some amazing... Like, Victorian High Country is phenomenal.
30:31 You know, a lot of the Sand Islands in Queensland, you don't have to go out and do the telegraph track on your first outing.
30:36 But I think that manufacturers doing things like this is key to engagement with their customers.
30:42 It's also key to encouraging people to do safer driving,
30:45 because there are many, many examples on the internet of people getting stuck or in a very bad situation.
30:50 - Some of them funny, some of them dangerous.
30:53 But, I mean, one of the best trips I ever did was four-wheel driving for a week on Fraser Island,
30:57 and it is absolutely phenomenal. - I did that too, not with iVenture,
31:01 but that was my first experience four-wheel driving.
31:04 We had Land Cruiser Troopies, and we did that for a whole week,
31:08 and it was the introduction to four-wheel driving that I needed.
31:12 I couldn't drive because they were all manuals, RIP.
31:15 - We'll get to that next week. - Yeah.
31:17 But I think if I...
31:20 That's my ultimate goal, is to travel around Australia in a four-wheel drive eventually,
31:24 and having the training that I've had from Isuzu
31:27 just gives me all that more confidence to go out and actually make it happen.
31:31 - So if you do have an Isuzu, obviously there's iVenture Club,
31:34 but it's amazing how many brands do offer something like this.
31:37 I know if you've got something expensive in German,
31:39 they'll let you take your car or someone else's car to the track.
31:42 Audi, BMW, Merc, all do it.
31:45 Interesting also is Hyundai does a really good job with this, with its N Festival.
31:49 If you've got an i20 or an i30 or a Kona N,
31:53 you can go to these N Festivals and drive your car on track
31:56 with other what they call Nthusiasts.
31:58 - I'll have to come up with that one. - Clever, hey.
32:02 And get to experience your car,
32:04 but also just meet other people who have invested their own money in a product
32:07 and kind of feel their passion too.
32:09 And there's so many cars out there and people out there that aren't interested in that,
32:12 and that's fine, but if you do care,
32:15 it's so cool just to be surrounded by people who want to learn with you
32:19 and sort of feel the same passion you do.
32:21 Shout out to Hyundai as well, because if you do that,
32:23 you maintain your warranty on the car,
32:25 because they actually have a track day warranty.
32:27 So I think that's a really good initiative from them.
32:30 Just to be clear, that warranty doesn't cover loss of talent.
32:33 No, no, Barry R, meeting Barry R is not the way to maintain that warranty.
32:38 What I'd like to know from you guys is what, not what manufacturer,
32:42 but what would you like to see that's available to just the general public,
32:46 Joe public, and easily accessible to them?
32:48 What would you like to see training offered, Jade?
32:52 That is such a good question.
32:54 Scott, you go first, actually.
32:56 I would actually really like to see more skid pan days.
33:00 Sydney Motorsports Park and Driving Solutions up in New South Wales
33:03 do an awesome job of this.
33:05 In Victoria, it's less prominent,
33:07 but you can essentially rock up in whatever you've got
33:10 and try to get your car sideways on a wet skid pan,
33:13 learn about car control and kind of get it out of your system
33:17 is probably the best way to put it.
33:18 But you also learn a lot of dynamic handling of what to do.
33:21 So I know they do emergency brake and steer in the wet,
33:24 which is something that a lot of people have to do in real life,
33:27 but don't really know what a car's going to do when they do it.
33:29 So it sort of ticks both boxes on the training front
33:31 and just that if you like cars and you have a BRZ,
33:34 go and do stupid stuff on the skid pan, don't do it on the public road.
33:38 It makes it so much easier
33:39 and gives people somewhere to enjoy this stuff in a safe environment.
33:43 Yeah, I think, yeah, I totally agree.
33:45 I think Isuzu has got like the four wheel drive stuff kind of handled over there.
33:48 So I don't really want to repeat it again.
33:50 But recently I have wanted to learn how to drift.
33:55 So I am going to go with Scully on this one after seeing the i30N.
34:00 Not going to release too many details.
34:03 Ionic 5N, sorry, not the i30N.
34:05 Yes. Yeah, exactly.
34:06 Sorry, that was a momentary lapse of...
34:08 Anyway. Yeah, so the Ionic 5N drift,
34:12 that's going to be my new bucket list thing to do is learn how to drift.
34:15 So I'm with Scully.
34:16 All right. Well, hopefully if you're watching, Mr Albanese,
34:19 you would love to see some Gaggle funding behind this.
34:21 100% of Australian survey.
34:23 Yes. I do have a quick question that's come in from YouTube.
34:26 I'm hoping you guys are able to help me out with this a little bit.
34:28 Twin Roaders on YouTube wanted to know,
34:30 how long do you keep your personal cars for?
34:32 As I get older, I'm holding on to my cars for longer.
34:35 Previously three to four years, but now over seven.
34:37 So has there been a shift in car ownership in Australia?
34:40 Scott, I'll throw it to you first.
34:42 That's a really good question, because I have owned cars for 12 months
34:45 all the way up to much longer than that.
34:47 And I know people in my family have very different approaches to it.
34:50 A lot of people, if they're leasing, turn their cars over every three or four years,
34:54 because that's a pretty standard lease period.
34:56 But if you like your car and given everything is getting more expensive,
35:00 as long as you're still comfortable that it's not going to cost you
35:03 too much maintenance wise or it's not missing safety features,
35:06 there's no reason why you can't keep it longer.
35:07 And with Kia now offering a seven year warranty, Mitsubishi up to ten
35:11 if you service in their network, it's easier and I suppose more reassuring
35:15 than ever to hang on to your car for longer.
35:17 Well, to a nervous, I hope that answers your question.
35:20 All right. Last thing for today, guys.
35:21 What are your top picks? Things you've seen this week?
35:24 Jade, we'll start with you. What do you got?
35:26 OK, so before I mentioned the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and got it right that time,
35:30 it was a time attack in Sydney a couple of days ago
35:34 and it was drifting around everywhere with the drift king in inverted commas.
35:40 One thing that I did find it was on a YouTube video I was watching
35:44 was the engine sounds again in inverted commas.
35:48 Yeah, the electric engine sounds. Yes.
35:51 It was actually really cool.
35:51 There was a supersonic sound.
35:54 If you haven't heard it, I definitely recommend go checking out.
35:57 It's like an F18 flying past.
35:59 So weird. Like it's very futuristic.
36:01 I listened to it first and I was like, nope, not a vibe.
36:05 And then I kept listening to it and I was like,
36:07 this is more than likely going to be the future of what these cars
36:10 are going to sound like.
36:11 So, yeah, I'd love to know what people think of the supersonic
36:14 sound from the Hyundai Ioniq 5.
36:18 Catchy. Scott, what's your pick for the week?
36:21 I've gone in-house for this one.
36:23 On Car Expert, we have a section called owner reviews
36:26 where you can fill out a form and write about your own car.
36:28 Obviously, it's really interesting with newer cars.
36:31 So people buying that same car can know what the experience is like.
36:34 But occasionally we get these really awesome owner reviews about classics.
36:37 And a regular commenter and reader has written a review of their Citroen DS.
36:42 Oh, OK. And it is beautifully written, for one.
36:45 It's a really, really good piece of writing.
36:46 Put some of the guys over there in the shade.
36:48 If they're listening, they're not. Damn.
36:51 But it also was a really interesting insight
36:54 into what it's like to own a very pretty, very technically
36:57 complex French car from before 2000.
37:00 Yeah, that's cool. I'm going to have to read that.
37:01 Yes, very, very complicated love story, that one.
37:04 I'd like to throw one out.
37:06 Also on World Time Attack Challenge in Sydney was the RP968 Porsche.
37:11 Now, if you haven't seen a World Time Attack car, we'll put up on screen.
37:15 But Google it.
37:16 They are phenomenal looking things.
37:18 Massive. They're all about speed and downforce.
37:20 No rules, basically.
37:21 Basically, it's just make a car as fast as possible. Pretty much.
37:24 So the previous record around the full city motorsport park circuit
37:27 for World Time Attack was a one minute nineteen point two seven.
37:29 To put it in perspective, a V8 supercar goes around in about a one
37:34 twenty nine and a half second.
37:36 That's a big difference.
37:38 The RP968 Porsche set a new record.
37:41 One minute seventeen point eight six zero.
37:45 That's a second and a half quicker than the old record.
37:47 That is a phenomenal time around that circuit.
37:49 I really, really encourage you to go and watch the onboard on YouTube
37:52 because it is an absolutely wild lap.
37:54 It's like the footage is on fast forward every time he puts his foot down.
37:57 It's crazy. Yeah, it's very, very cool.
37:59 So definitely check that out.
38:01 Guys, any final thoughts you want to leave us with this week?
38:03 No, I think what's coming out of Munich is everything is electric.
38:07 Well, most things are electric and that's kind of the future.
38:10 So if people
38:11 want to not have that, they might have to think again.
38:16 So that's going to be my takeaway this week.
38:19 My takeaway is Jade made a good point.
38:20 Jade made a good point.
38:21 So it doesn't happen often.
38:23 I think that's a good time to wrap it up.
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38:32 We're going to be talking about the future of engines a little bit.
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38:38 And also as a fun thing, Jade is going to be learning to drive manual.
38:42 And that's going to be our next week's episode of the podcast.
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38:49 And thank you for joining us this week, guys.
38:51 Thank you for joining me.
38:52 And we'll see you all next week.