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00:00 G'day, I'm Sean and welcome to the Car Expert Podcast.
00:02 We've got a very exciting show for you today.
00:04 We're gonna be talking about the new Mustang.
00:06 It's finally come to Australia
00:08 and we've finally got some pricing for it.
00:10 It's slightly more than you might've hoped for, I guess.
00:13 I'm gonna be talking about the future of using in Australia
00:15 and it's looking slightly electric.
00:17 And we're gonna talk about the mighty Mahindra pickup,
00:21 the Indian war horse.
00:22 It's here to show the land crews of what's what.
00:24 But to help me get through all of that,
00:26 we've brought back at your request
00:28 because there was quite a few requests,
00:29 James Wong, he's back.
00:30 Hello, mate.
00:31 - Thank you for having me back again.
00:32 I've made it to round two.
00:34 Hopefully there's a round three as well.
00:35 - Yes, the commenters took your little plea
00:37 to them to heart and they said some nice things.
00:39 And so yeah, you're still here.
00:40 - I am a man of the people, so maybe that's what it is.
00:42 - Yes, I think you're okay as long as you're not like
00:44 trying to do a drag race,
00:45 then people are happy to have you around.
00:46 - Yeah, yeah, I think I have to redeem myself with that one.
00:49 But you can see me beat people in the,
00:51 I think it was the four by four SUV mega test.
00:54 - Yeah, to be fair, that was against Tony and Paul.
00:56 - It doesn't matter.
00:57 I'll take a win where I can.
00:59 - Doesn't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile,
01:01 winning's winning, right?
01:02 But the man who does often beat Paul in drag races,
01:04 Scott Colley, he's here as well.
01:05 - I'll teach James a thing or two
01:06 about how to start at some point.
01:08 (laughing)
01:09 - Yes, it's go on go is generally the rule that I've--
01:12 - Slightly before because there's a bit of a lag
01:14 in most of these cars.
01:15 - Especially Ford Rangers.
01:17 (laughing)
01:18 - Well, the car that doesn't have too much of a delay
01:21 is the Mustang when you launch it.
01:23 But getting it to Australia is probably gonna be
01:25 a bit of a slower thing.
01:26 We've been teased with it for a long, long time,
01:29 but we've finally got pricing.
01:31 It is the S650.
01:32 That's if you hear that nomenclature, that's what it means.
01:35 It's the seventh generation, which is very confusing.
01:38 But anyway, I'm gonna throw it over to Scott
01:41 because Scott actually went to America
01:42 and drove the Mustang.
01:43 Well, it was a while ago.
01:44 Now you did that.
01:45 - Yeah, mid year, something like that.
01:46 - So give us a little bit of background
01:47 on what we're expecting
01:48 'cause our models are slightly different
01:50 to the American models.
01:51 - Yeah, so in the States, they have a similar range,
01:54 but it starts with the EcoBoost,
01:56 which I think they now call the high performance,
01:58 but it's a 2.3 liter turbo engine.
02:00 We've got the GT, which is a five liter V8.
02:02 And then sitting at the top of that range is the Dark Horse.
02:05 The Dark Horse in the States has 373 kilowatts of power,
02:09 567 Newton meters.
02:11 It's got a Tremec gearbox instead of a Getrag one
02:14 and a whole lot of other track ready stuff.
02:16 It also comes with the option of a handling pack,
02:18 which puts front tires so wide on it.
02:19 You could honestly use them to level a road.
02:21 They're incredible.
02:23 In Australia, it's a little bit different.
02:24 So we are gonna get the 2.3 liter
02:26 and we're also getting the GT,
02:28 but our Dark Horse is slightly less powerful.
02:30 It's got 349 kilowatts and 548 Newton meters.
02:35 And that's down to slight differences
02:36 for homologating the exhaust system for Australia.
02:38 We also don't get the handling pack here.
02:41 So the Dark Horse you see is the Dark Horse you get
02:43 with the exception of some exterior styling packages.
02:46 If you do want the sticky tires and the extra track stuff,
02:49 you're gonna have to go and talk to Herod Performance
02:51 and maybe they'll help you out.
02:52 - Yeah, so if you're planning on taking your new Mustang
02:54 to Cars and Coffee, do do that.
02:55 It's very important.
02:57 So it is worth noting that the price
02:59 has changed quite a lot.
03:01 I recall back in 2015, I think the first gen of Mustang
03:05 we got here came out.
03:07 You could get into one for sort of late 40s
03:09 and you get into a V8 for early 60s.
03:11 But now the base level, I think EcoBoosts
03:15 or the high performance, whatever it's called.
03:17 The four cylinder costs about 65 grand,
03:20 which is a lot of money.
03:21 And James, I know you're a fan of a sports coupe.
03:24 - Yeah.
03:25 - But I'm curious what your thoughts are
03:26 because it's a pretty big price hike
03:28 over the last generation.
03:29 - Yeah, I was a bit surprised to see
03:32 just by how much it's gone up
03:33 and to see that I think it was the auto Dark Horse
03:37 is over $100,000.
03:38 - Yeah, it's over $100,000.
03:39 - That's a lot of money, especially when we covered
03:42 the bullet edition of the last one coming out,
03:44 it was like 75 and that was very expensive at the time.
03:48 - And a limited edition.
03:49 - Yeah, exactly right.
03:50 - So is the Dark Horse, mind you.
03:52 We don't know how limited yet,
03:53 but there won't be unlimited production of it.
03:55 - Yeah, so I found it very interesting,
03:57 but I guess we've now been covering years of price rises
04:02 across the board for so many manufacturers.
04:04 The new Mustang is quite a significant development
04:07 over the old one based on Scott's review
04:08 'cause I haven't driven it.
04:09 (laughing)
04:10 I've barely seen one.
04:11 - Son of a sub, yeah.
04:12 - I've barely seen one in person.
04:12 So it seems like there's a lot of things that have changed
04:15 and it's a significantly better car than the old one,
04:19 especially when it comes to handling and stuff,
04:20 you would say.
04:21 - So I think they're now pricing it in the same ballpark
04:25 as something like a Toyota Supra
04:27 or something along that line
04:29 where a Supra is a very fun, track-capable car.
04:32 It's got a six-cylinder turbo instead of a V8,
04:35 but the similar levels of performance,
04:37 the same attention-grabbing design.
04:39 So it still doesn't really have any competitors
04:43 that really can do,
04:45 has the same packaging that it does,
04:47 that really big, cool American V8 muscle car
04:51 that you can't get a Camaro anymore.
04:54 You have to spend a lot more to get a Corvette.
04:56 - Yeah, they don't sell the Charger or the Challenger here.
04:58 - I think the other thing worth distinguishing here
05:00 is the difference between starting price
05:02 and the actual price people paid for the last Mustang.
05:05 I know prices went up with the facelift,
05:07 they've gone up again,
05:08 but there were a lot of options
05:10 on especially the facelifted Mustang previously.
05:13 I know the GT, you could pay more for a wing
05:16 and bigger wheels and then the Magneto dampers.
05:19 - The suspension, yeah.
05:21 - So I know it started at about 70 grand,
05:24 but by the time you put all the options on it,
05:25 you could spend 80 grand, 85 grand on a V8 Mustang.
05:29 And what we've seen from a lot of car brands
05:30 is they've realized that Aussies,
05:31 when it comes to cars like this,
05:33 they're not messing around with entry-level models.
05:35 They just want the best
05:36 because it is an emotional purchase.
05:38 So I think the other thing worth considering here
05:41 is when you compare top spec old versus top spec new,
05:44 it's still more expensive,
05:46 but this base price jumping thing
05:48 is less relevant to a lot of buyers
05:49 'cause this is a car they're buying for fun
05:51 and for the sake of it,
05:52 and they just want the lot on there.
05:53 - I recall Mercedes a few years ago
05:54 saying that their largest C63 AMG sales
05:58 were like per capita was actually Australia.
06:01 And Aussies would buy more of those
06:03 over base level C-classes.
06:05 And the reason I bring that up
06:07 is because the power output of this car
06:09 is not that dissimilar to what the previous gen V8 C63 was,
06:13 but it is a damn lick cheaper.
06:15 But I'm curious,
06:17 is it worth the extra money over the previous one?
06:20 Because it's got a new interior,
06:21 which I could take or leave personally.
06:24 It's got new styling,
06:25 but the power outputs are not that significant.
06:27 So to you guys,
06:29 would you think that it's worth an extra 12 or 15 grand
06:31 over what the last one was?
06:33 - I'd probably have to reserve my judgment until I drive it
06:36 because yeah,
06:36 if it's as good as Scott said it was
06:38 in the international launch review,
06:39 I would say that for a lot of people it might be,
06:43 but yeah, I probably can't speak to it the way you can.
06:46 I'm gonna say yes.
06:47 I think the last Mustang,
06:48 I love the way it drove,
06:49 especially after the update,
06:51 but the interior really let it down.
06:53 It looked very cool and retro,
06:55 but as soon as you poke beneath the surface,
06:56 it just felt cheap and nasty.
06:58 This new one's still not an S-class,
07:00 but the combination of like new school tech
07:04 and old school design and feel
07:06 is really good in the American cars we drove.
07:09 And I think also the dark horse
07:11 with all the track ready stuff you've got on it
07:14 is kind of gonna cost the same
07:15 as what people might've been doing to their GT anyway,
07:17 if they wanted to add differential coolers,
07:20 extra cooling for the engine transmission,
07:21 that sort of thing.
07:22 So I actually think Ford's right in the right spot with it.
07:26 And I think regardless of what they charge for it,
07:27 they could have probably put 20 grand more on the price
07:29 and people still would have bought them.
07:31 - I mean, people are still gonna rush in
07:32 and buy a rash supercharger and put it on there anyway.
07:34 But I guess it brings up another question.
07:37 Do you think the budget friendly sports car
07:41 is on the way out in Australia?
07:43 I mean, I know there's MX-5s and there's Toyota 86s,
07:46 but they're not that cheap. - They're not that cheap
07:48 and they're not that sporty when you actually,
07:50 like when you look at something like this
07:51 with the big power and everything,
07:52 they're very low powered and they're fun,
07:54 but I wouldn't say they're sports cars per se.
07:56 - I think it depends on how you define a sports car,
07:58 because I would argue a Hyundai i20N for 35 odd grand,
08:02 you can't get the Fiesta ST anymore,
08:04 but that is absolutely a sports car.
08:06 It's absolutely affordable.
08:07 And it's got a long warranty that lasts on the track.
08:10 I think also the 86 and the BRZ,
08:12 they're not sports cars in the same way a V8 Commodore was,
08:15 but they are absolutely sports cars
08:17 that make you feel special,
08:18 that encourage you to go for a drive.
08:20 So I don't think the concept's completely dead.
08:23 I just think like everything else we talk about
08:24 on this podcast, we need to move the goalposts a little bit.
08:27 I mean, a base Toyota Yaris is now 25 grand.
08:30 So you can't expect to be able to get a basic sports car
08:33 for the same money.
08:34 It's gonna move in line with the rest of the market.
08:37 - Where do you stand, James?
08:38 As the owner of a Golf GTI.
08:39 - Is James from a Golf GTI? - Not that anyone knows.
08:42 (laughing)
08:42 - Yeah, I don't.
08:43 - He's mentioned it to me once or twice.
08:45 - Yeah, just quietly.
08:46 - But again, like that,
08:47 and that's the case of another, I guess,
08:48 like sporty car now costing an absolute fortune.
08:51 Like where do you stand on it?
08:52 - Yeah, I think, like Scott said,
08:54 I think it's more the definition of what is affordable
08:56 as opposed to what's an attainable sports car
08:58 or anything like that.
08:59 I think a lot of, you know,
09:00 I think of when I was getting my license
09:02 and the kind of money that people or kids
09:04 were spending on their first cars
09:05 or what their parents were giving them
09:07 to spend on their first cars
09:08 versus what they're getting now.
09:09 And it's a completely different ball game.
09:11 And, you know, you can get,
09:13 even though the entry prices are creeping up
09:16 or not creeping up, they're jumping up these days,
09:17 but, you know, even a base MX-5 of the new range,
09:21 the two liter, 40 grand, you can get it with a manual.
09:23 Like that's a really great sports car.
09:26 And for a lot of people, that's within reach
09:28 in terms of, you know, people finance these days,
09:30 all that kind of stuff.
09:31 And like Scott said, the 86 and the BRZ are there as well.
09:34 When it comes to hot hatches,
09:35 yeah, they're slowly creeping up too
09:37 'cause as tech gets more refined,
09:39 a lot of those cars are based on, you know,
09:42 conventional passenger cars that need to move with the times
09:44 and that's why they continue to get more expensive.
09:46 But I think what's more disappointing
09:48 is just the actual options disappearing
09:51 as opposed to the price bracket,
09:53 because, you know, you look at Ford's now exited
09:55 both the Fiesta and Focus segments with their cars.
09:58 We've seen various other models be pulled
10:01 from the Australian market because of low volume
10:03 or for whatever reason.
10:05 And it's just a shame that we're seeing less of that
10:08 because yeah, like you said,
10:10 people will buy the Mustang anyway.
10:11 There'll be people that buy the high performance
10:12 or the four cylinder one.
10:13 There'll be people that buy the GT and the Dark Horse,
10:15 regardless of the price bracket.
10:17 We've seen that with numerous other model lines
10:19 that have crept up in price as well.
10:20 So I guess, yeah, it's a shame
10:22 that you can't get into one for much cheaper,
10:24 but that's what the secondhand market's for now, I guess.
10:26 - And if you're looking around on the secondhand market,
10:28 I know we're a new car website and a new car podcast,
10:31 but my God, there's some good, cheap,
10:33 French hot hatches out there
10:35 that you could buy as a first car
10:36 and have so much fun with.
10:37 I mean, if you want to learn to be a mechanic,
10:39 it's probably the perfect car to do that.
10:41 I guess with the Mustang,
10:42 it's looking like it's about a hundred grand.
10:45 It's still the perfect midlife crisis car
10:47 'cause it's a lot cheaper than a Porsche Boxster.
10:48 - It is, absolutely.
10:50 - Yeah, I think you're right.
10:51 People will probably buy it.
10:52 I'm curious, one last question
10:53 before we move on for the Mustang, the looks.
10:56 Where do you guys stand on,
10:57 and I think I know where you stand on it, Scott,
10:59 but I'll ask you anyway.
11:00 - Yeah, I wasn't sold on it in the pictures.
11:02 It looks a little bit droopy and sad, but in person,
11:05 I think Ford's done an awesome job
11:07 modernizing the design.
11:08 I actually think the Dark Horse
11:10 with its sort of Kiss face paint on it,
11:12 I'm less of a fan of,
11:13 but I've seen a couple of GTs,
11:15 and in bright colors, they look really crisp and nice.
11:17 So wait until you see it in person,
11:19 and then we'll talk.
11:21 - What about you, James?
11:22 - Yeah, I was sort of the same.
11:23 I think the last one was really sleek,
11:25 and the rounded edges, I prefer that kind of design.
11:28 The new one's quite squared off,
11:30 and it's a little bit polarizing in images.
11:32 I have seen one in person.
11:34 There was a person from Ford
11:35 that brought a yellow GT to a drive day that I went to,
11:38 and it looked nice, but a little bit plain
11:41 in that sort of bright yellow
11:42 that they had for the last one.
11:43 So I'll be interested to see how it looks in other colors
11:45 and with different variants
11:46 to see how a different colored wheel
11:48 or a spoiler or something changes the look in person.
11:51 So I'll wait and see.
11:53 - Cool, well, we will have more Mustang news in the future,
11:55 and as soon as we can get our hands on one,
11:58 we will take it for a drive and let you know how it is.
12:00 So make sure you subscribe for that.
12:02 And are you buying a Mustang?
12:03 Leave a comment.
12:04 We'd love to know.
12:05 But something you, another future thing
12:07 that we're looking at today
12:08 is the electrification of the ute market.
12:11 Now, there's a couple of cars already that you can get
12:14 that have some sort of electrification.
12:16 LTV sell the T60E, I think they call it.
12:20 - E, T60, yes. - E, T60, yes.
12:21 - Phone home.
12:22 But, you know, terrible range, can't tow,
12:26 can't take a load, and costs about 100 grand.
12:28 It's not really- - Yeah, very much a fleet
12:30 or a local council special, that way.
12:32 - Yeah, it's not what we're hoping for
12:34 when it comes to electric utes, but it's a start.
12:36 It's a start.
12:37 But this is all come about because Hyundai have suggested,
12:40 or they've confirmed, that an electrified range arrival
12:43 is coming to Australia.
12:43 So, James, what can you tell us about that?
12:47 - Well, I don't think they've actually given us too much
12:49 other than that it's coming, right?
12:50 Like the Hyundai and the Kia ute,
12:52 which are apparently two different things,
12:54 have been spoken about for a very long time.
12:58 There's been rumors.
12:58 I know that the two brands are very keen
13:01 to get in on the segment here,
13:02 because obviously our top two selling vehicles
13:04 in the country are utes.
13:06 And I think they've sort of danced around
13:09 a lot of the details.
13:11 The Hyundai one's meant to have
13:12 some sort of electrification.
13:13 We're not sure if it's going to be full electric,
13:15 a hybrid, a plug-in hybrid, or whatever.
13:18 And, you know, as you know, as you just said as well,
13:20 that the electrification within the dual-cabute segment
13:23 has been very slow.
13:25 I think the ET60 is a prime example
13:27 of how it's very difficult to bring something to market
13:30 with the correct capabilities
13:31 that a lot of people expect of those vehicles.
13:34 And, you know, the first mainstream attempt,
13:38 you could consider the mild hybrid Hilux,
13:40 but that's hardly a proper hybrid.
13:42 - I think the range of plug-in hybrids
13:43 is probably more the...
13:45 - Exactly right.
13:46 And that's still over a year away.
13:48 So, you know, there's not really much that we can say,
13:52 you know, in America they have some all-electric utes.
13:55 You've got things like the F-150 Lightning, the Rivian,
13:57 but even then, the hard thing with an electric drive train
14:01 in something like a dual-cabute
14:03 is maintaining the level of capability
14:06 and, you know, ruggedness that those cars are known for,
14:10 while also being able to have,
14:12 balance that with a battery pack
14:13 that offers a substantial amount of range.
14:16 Because, you know, you think of Australia,
14:17 people buy utes to tow caravans or to go camping.
14:20 And that normally means going somewhere far away and remote.
14:23 - I do think Hyundai's at an advantage on that front though.
14:25 If you are Ford and you're building an electric F-150,
14:28 there are genuinely 75 or 100 years worth of F-150 owners
14:32 that go, "Well, my truck's always done this.
14:34 It needs to do this again."
14:36 Hyundai has built commercial vehicles before,
14:38 but it hasn't built a ute that sells
14:39 in the ranger segment in Australia.
14:41 No one really knows what it needs to be.
14:42 And I think that means Hyundai can define it for itself
14:46 in a way that other brands can't.
14:48 So I think Hyundai's got the advantage
14:50 of being able to rock up to the segment.
14:52 And rather than saying,
14:53 "Hey, this is just as good as your Ranger.
14:55 We promise we don't want to upset you."
14:57 It can just say, "This is what our ute does.
14:59 It's a lifestyle ute.
15:00 It's designed to take your dirt bikes to the beach
15:01 or tow your jet ski from home to the waterfront
15:04 or whatever it is.
15:06 Maybe it's aimed at people who want to plug in
15:08 on the campsite."
15:09 Something like that.
15:10 They can really set the boundaries for it
15:12 in a way that other brands aren't able to.
15:14 And I think that's a huge advantage
15:15 and something we've seen from Rivian as well in the States,
15:17 which has been able to chart its own path
15:20 instead of having to kind of adapt historical utes
15:22 for the electric age.
15:23 - I still feel like Rivian has a level of capability
15:26 that is expected of cars in that segment.
15:28 And you think of America and Australia,
15:30 the truck buyers want a truck.
15:33 They want something that can do those things,
15:35 even if they're never going to do them.
15:36 There are plenty of people that say,
15:37 "I need three and a half ton towing capacity,
15:39 but I'm towing a box trailer
15:41 that's 800 kilos or a jet ski."
15:42 So I think there still needs to be a level of capability
15:45 that caters to that market
15:46 because ultimately Hyundai will be trying to cash in
15:49 on buyers and owners that are from other brands.
15:52 And they have to try and bring you in
15:54 with something unique,
15:55 which this electrified drive chain might,
15:57 but I still need to maintain, I think,
15:59 what people expect of a vehicle in that segment.
16:01 - I do want to talk about the Ranger FEV.
16:03 And I don't want this to become a Ford podcast,
16:04 but I think it is a really important step
16:07 in the electrification of the ute market.
16:10 Plug-in hybrid ute makes a lot more sense
16:13 than a fully electric ute
16:14 at this stage with battery technology.
16:16 The Ranger FEV sounds really cool
16:19 because it's going to have the EcoBoost engine
16:21 that's in the Amarok, the petrol one.
16:23 - And in the Mustang.
16:24 - And in the Mustang, so we already know it goes like stink
16:27 and then it's going to have that power boost.
16:28 So it should be capable of towing three and a half ton
16:31 of, obviously there'll be some weight restrictions in that,
16:33 but in theory it should be capable of that.
16:35 It should still be capable of taking a load in the back
16:37 and you can actually use it as like electrification
16:40 at your campsite or on your work site.
16:42 And I think, I feel like Ford are sort of more on the money
16:46 at this stage of the game
16:47 when it comes to electrifying a ute.
16:49 What do you guys think?
16:50 - I'm actually not so sure.
16:52 And the reason is partly that that Ranger plug-in hybrid
16:56 is a play that I think has been driven by Ford of Europe.
17:00 Ford Australia, when it made this announcement,
17:01 did it in conjunction with Ford of Europe.
17:03 And if you look at European emissions rules,
17:06 when you want to sell cars over there,
17:08 you need to be below a certain fleet average
17:10 and plug-in hybrids are a great way
17:11 of dragging emissions down
17:13 without spending too much on batteries.
17:15 I think also if you look at how people use these utes,
17:19 if you are driving a short enough distance regularly enough
17:22 that you only use the electric motor,
17:24 it doesn't really make any sense
17:25 to have the petrol engine there anyway.
17:27 And the flip side of that
17:28 is if you are constantly towing long distances
17:30 or doing big heavy loads,
17:33 the electric motor is not gonna get you very far.
17:34 It might get you 10 Ks
17:35 and then you're on the petrol engine anyway,
17:37 at which point maybe a diesel is more efficient.
17:39 So it's gonna come down to how Ford tunes it, obviously.
17:42 But like with a lot of plug-in hybrids,
17:44 I do feel like there is a risk
17:46 that the weight and complexity and costs
17:48 that comes with this plug-in hybrid system
17:50 doesn't give you a better car.
17:51 It gives you a car that's slightly worse
17:53 at being electric and slightly worse
17:55 at being petrol or diesel
17:57 than a dedicated version of either.
17:58 - I'm gonna counter you
17:59 and I know you're meant to be the car expert here,
18:01 but I do wanna say as a long-term ute owner,
18:04 I think the thing about the utes and the pickup trucks
18:07 and the people that buy them is it's an idealism
18:09 that that's the reason they buy it.
18:11 They buy it for the idea and the opportunity
18:14 that they can go out and do anything
18:15 and conquer any terrain.
18:16 I think that's why the Ranger Fev
18:18 I think will do really well
18:19 because it's selling a dream.
18:22 It's selling an ideal that,
18:24 look, most of them might not ever have to drive far enough
18:27 to ever turn on the petrol engine.
18:28 And yes, it probably won't do that well towing,
18:31 but it does always have that,
18:31 it maintains a little bit of power
18:33 for an electric boost. - Yeah,
18:34 it'll be able to boost itself.
18:35 - But I think it still fits that brief
18:37 that the ute buyers want.
18:39 And I think if people bought utes
18:42 based on the idea of like this, a fit for purpose thing,
18:44 they'd all be driving workmate Hiluxes.
18:46 You know what I mean?
18:47 It's like, but people will buy it,
18:48 like the biggest sellers are Wildtrak and SR5 or whatever.
18:52 So just to count you a little bit on that.
18:55 - I don't disagree with you that it'll sell
18:57 and there'll be interest in it,
18:58 whether or not that's actually justified
19:00 by the products and the question.
19:02 I suppose that's for us to find out when we get to drive it.
19:04 - And I'm curious, this one is very much,
19:07 we don't have any evidence really.
19:09 We don't have any information,
19:10 but BYD are working on a ute.
19:13 And I'm not sure which one of you knows more about it
19:15 or wants to say something.
19:16 - I'm gonna hand all that to James.
19:17 I know very little about it.
19:19 - So far, I've always seen it as renders basically.
19:22 - Well, I think what we know about BYD
19:25 is that they're obviously an electric car giant.
19:27 They've been working on like,
19:28 they've revealed like a Land Rover Defender G-Wagon
19:31 competitor that's all electric,
19:32 has massive power, huge capabilities.
19:34 And so I think they've got the tech
19:37 that's available to them and the know-how
19:39 about how to make a vehicle like that
19:41 that can do these things.
19:43 Whether it actually comes to fruition
19:45 and is competitive in terms of price,
19:46 you know, their pricing's really good at the moment.
19:48 All the stuff that's come to market,
19:50 they've been able to beat Tesla at their own game
19:51 in terms of positioning.
19:53 But yeah, like you said, it's very early days
19:55 about a ute to be like, yeah, that's gonna come here
19:58 and do things.
19:59 But people are really open to the Chinese brands now.
20:00 You see in our comments, people are buying them.
20:03 People say, you know, I'm open to Chinese brands.
20:05 If the Europeans were complaining about it at the moment
20:08 about them coming in too cheap,
20:09 they're like, bring 'em here, we'll buy them.
20:10 So I think it'll be a really interesting thing
20:13 to see all these new brands and new models
20:14 coming to shake up, you know,
20:16 what is a very brand and nameplate-led segment.
20:19 Because people buy Hiluxes 'cause they don't break, right?
20:21 Same with Rangers.
20:22 People love Rangers because they're tough,
20:24 they look cool, and there's a brand around that.
20:27 So when these new players come in,
20:28 it'll definitely be very interesting.
20:30 - I don't wanna go too far off topic here,
20:31 but you just mentioned something about
20:33 the Europeans panicking a little bit
20:34 about the Chinese, the influx of Chinese cars in Europe.
20:38 And I just, like, I really hope that Europe
20:40 handles it better than Australia did.
20:42 And I know that wasn't Chinese cars that caused,
20:44 like, the manufacturing to cease here,
20:46 but the way that Australia handled the influx
20:48 of overseas cars at better prices and better build qualities
20:51 with luxury car tax and all that sort of,
20:54 all the sort of things they did,
20:55 it sort of screwed us in the long run.
20:59 And now we're still stuck with the luxury car tax
21:00 and a whole bunch of legacy effects because of that.
21:03 And I truly, truly hope Europe handles that
21:05 a lot better than we did.
21:06 - I think Europe has the advantage of,
21:09 for one, government that is very linked to the unions
21:13 and all of these car makers are union manufacturers.
21:16 So you look at the plants in France, in Germany,
21:19 those workforces are very heavily protected
21:21 in a way the Australian workforce wasn't.
21:24 I think the other thing is building cars in Australia
21:26 was something that made us really proud as car people.
21:29 But a lot of Australians didn't care after quite a while
21:32 because we moved from a manufacturing nation
21:34 to a more modern high-tech knowledge-based nation.
21:38 That's how we like to see ourselves anyway, I would argue.
21:41 A lot of people in Germany, in France, in parts of Europe
21:45 that do manufacture cars are incredibly proud of the fact
21:48 that that is what they do.
21:49 And it's sort of a national export of note in a way
21:52 that cars just weren't in Australia.
21:54 So I think that national pride's gonna play a role as well.
21:57 - Well, Elizabeth is often called the Stuttgart of Adelaide.
22:00 So, you know, people who worked at Holden.
22:04 - As opposed to Handorf, the actual German town
22:06 just outside Adelaide.
22:07 - If I can quickly jump in here as well.
22:09 I think the difference between Australia and Europe as well
22:11 is that in Australia and probably in the US as well,
22:14 that importing cars is desirable.
22:17 Foreign vehicles are desirable here.
22:19 And that actually was another big player
22:21 in the death of local manufacturing.
22:23 Because, you know, once the Europeans could bring in
22:25 really nice stuff for about the same price
22:27 as a high spec Holden or Ford, people were like,
22:29 "Well, I want a C-Class, I want a Golf or a 3 Series
22:34 or whatever."
22:35 And the local manufacturers couldn't compete
22:36 because they couldn't develop the tech
22:38 and the platforms in time.
22:39 I think what's different about Europe is that
22:41 their own cars in-house are what they desire.
22:44 You don't see, like, we've all been to Europe,
22:47 you've been to Europe recently as well.
22:49 Everything's European.
22:49 So to see a Mazda on the road is, you know,
22:52 wow, what, you notice it because it's there.
22:54 Or, you know, something Asian or American,
22:56 it's very unusual to see a non-European brand there.
23:00 So I think that for them, it's more about managing
23:05 that, the price thing that they're complaining about now,
23:08 as opposed to, you know, people jumping ship
23:09 and then, you know, Volkswagen shuts its doors tomorrow.
23:11 So I don't think that's going to happen.
23:13 - Yeah, I don't want to drag this out too far.
23:15 I realise we've got to move on.
23:16 But I think the last thing on that is
23:17 that the Chinese brands,
23:19 I know that they're a bit bullish at the moment
23:21 and they're trying to establish themselves,
23:23 but there is immense respect in China for overseas brands.
23:28 Tesla is massive in China.
23:29 American brands have a good reputation in China.
23:32 European brands have a good reputation in China,
23:34 which is why we've seen them pair up
23:35 on all sorts of joint ventures outside of China,
23:38 where you don't necessarily have to do it.
23:40 I think that there is going to be a power shift to China,
23:43 regardless of what Europe tries to do it.
23:44 We're just seeing it with the supply chain
23:46 and the sheer scale of what they're doing.
23:48 But I don't know that that's going to mean death
23:50 or trouble for the European brands in the long term.
23:53 It's going to mean funding.
23:54 It's going to mean partnerships and things
23:55 that allow them to build creative, interesting cars
23:58 in a way maybe they can't at the moment.
23:59 So if it is managed right,
24:01 I think the future is pretty bright.
24:02 - BYD, Audi, build your dreams Audi.
24:04 That sounds good, right?
24:06 - Sure.
24:06 (laughing)
24:07 - The Ato RS6.
24:09 (laughing)
24:10 - Yes.
24:11 - You never know, who knows?
24:12 - The MG4 GTI.
24:13 - Yes, that's not confirmed, so we'll move on.
24:16 Look, this is the time where we normally do
24:19 the Help Me Car Expert plug-in.
24:20 We're going to just change it up a little bit today,
24:22 because we've got a big list of dealers that help us out
24:26 and that we can connect you with when buying a car.
24:29 But one of the things that they've recently started
24:30 providing us is cars that have short wait times.
24:33 So one thing I wanted to ask you guys,
24:35 Rangers have a ridiculous wait time at the moment,
24:38 especially if you want like top spec V6.
24:40 I want to know, both of you,
24:43 what would you buy as an alternative
24:45 that doesn't have a very long wait time?
24:46 Scott, I'll start with you.
24:47 - I'm going to go Isuzu D-Max.
24:49 - Good call.
24:50 - I like the D-Max, not because it is the best use,
24:53 because I think the Ranger is the best use,
24:54 but the D-Max is a really good all-rounder.
24:57 It's really nice and comfy.
24:59 And I quite like the way it looks for the money as well
25:02 in X-Terrain spec.
25:03 I think also you can actually get one at the moment,
25:06 because Isuzu has really improved its stock situation.
25:09 There is a facelift coming,
25:10 but it won't be till next year, late potentially.
25:12 So you're not missing out on too much at the moment.
25:15 - And James, what about you?
25:16 - I think my first thing was to say Amarok,
25:17 but I think the V6s have a similar sort of situation.
25:20 - Although they do come from two different places,
25:22 which I find very interesting, but anyway.
25:23 - Yeah, so I think my first pick,
25:26 if it's not the Ranger or the Amarok,
25:28 so it's not technically my first pick,
25:29 it's my third maybe, but the Mazda BT-50.
25:32 So basically echoing Scott's reasons
25:34 for choosing the D-Max,
25:35 'cause they're basically the same car,
25:36 but I actually prefer the look of the BT-50.
25:39 I think it's a bit classier,
25:40 and I was the kind of person that liked the look
25:42 of the old Mercedes X-Class, 'cause it looked really nice.
25:46 Regardless of whether it was actually able to do--
25:47 - You were the one. (laughs)
25:47 - Yeah, I was the one person that was buying one.
25:50 But yeah, I really liked the BT-50,
25:52 and I have spent plenty of time in it.
25:53 And for the same reason, Scott, they're very comfy,
25:56 there's plenty of tech, and it's a little bit,
25:59 not quite as comfortable as a Ranger or an Amarok
26:02 in terms of on-road feel, but it's definitely competitive,
26:05 and they're fairly affordable by comparison, so yeah.
26:08 - Well, if you're interested in either one of those,
26:10 we can help connect you to a dealer
26:12 to get into one of those quicker than you might think.
26:14 Head to Google, type in Help Me Car Expert,
26:16 you can help you find your car, connect to a dealer,
26:18 and we'll get you in one sooner than you might think,
26:20 or definitely sooner than you can get into a Ranger.
26:23 So yeah, Google Help Me Car Expert, and let us know.
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26:27 Leave a comment, we'd love to know.
26:29 All right, it's time.
26:31 I'm very excited to talk about this one
26:32 because this is one of the more exciting utes
26:35 you can actually buy. (Scott laughs)
26:37 And hear me out on this.
26:38 - You are a farm boy at heart, aren't you?
26:40 - It is, it is.
26:41 The Mahindra pickup, the might of India, is here.
26:45 And before you laugh and go,
26:46 oh, they're not gonna last very long,
26:49 Mahindra is the biggest automotive manufacturer
26:51 in the world, and they've been making tractors
26:53 since the '40s.
26:54 So they know a thing or two about making a tough workhorse,
26:58 but this is a little bit, it looks odd to people, I guess.
27:02 And I'll throw it straight out to you guys.
27:04 What do you think of the looks of the Mahindra pickup?
27:06 - I think if you're worried about how it looks,
27:08 you're missing the point,
27:08 is probably the best way I can say it.
27:10 - There you go.
27:11 James, what do you think?
27:13 - It looks the same as it has for a long time.
27:14 - Yep.
27:16 - Which, funnily enough- (James laughs)
27:17 - This is some diplomacy going on right now.
27:19 - The bitter irony is the people that all say,
27:21 oh, it looks silly and it won't last,
27:22 are people that have been buying the same Land Cruiser
27:24 for 70 years.
27:25 Which, honestly, this thing competes with,
27:28 not on price, because you could buy two of them
27:30 for the price of a 70 series,
27:32 but in terms of its capabilities,
27:34 it is extraordinarily capable, and it starts at 40 grand.
27:38 Oh, it costs about 40 grand.
27:39 - So 40 grand drive away for the dual cab work pack
27:42 that we tested, which come with a bull bar,
27:44 a snorkel, and a stainless steel tray.
27:46 - Which you do not get any of on a $80,000 Land Cruiser.
27:49 - When I say stainless steel,
27:50 I think I mean aluminum.
27:51 - I'm sorry, yeah.
27:52 Very solid tray, a stainless steel one.
27:54 But yeah, it's not a Land Cruiser 70.
27:58 I think if I were going to tow a boat
28:00 through the Simpson Desert, maybe,
28:01 I don't know why I'd do it.
28:02 - Why would you tow a boat?
28:03 Mate, that's what happened to Burke and Wills,
28:06 and it didn't end well for them.
28:07 - I sort of mixed my metaphors there.
28:08 Crossing the Simpson Desert and towing a boat
28:10 are the two things that people talk about.
28:11 - I would see jet skis in the Gobi Desert too.
28:14 - Are you doing logistics for an art pop-up or something?
28:17 It's like, here's a boat in the sandy desert.
28:18 - Australia's remotest beaching.
28:22 If I were towing a big caravan through the Simpson Desert,
28:25 I'd still want the Land Cruiser 70.
28:28 But the Mahindra does a very similar thing
28:30 in that it is incredibly reliable.
28:32 It's incredibly low frills.
28:34 And I spent most of my time driving it in the city
28:36 where it's not all that happy.
28:38 It's got a big turning circle.
28:39 It's pretty uncomfortable at the back.
28:41 - It's about the size of Jupiter.
28:42 - The turn, yeah.
28:44 My girlfriend and I went out to a movie
28:46 on the Friday night.
28:47 We had the car.
28:48 - Is she your girlfriend after it?
28:49 - Yeah, she is.
28:51 The relationship ran its course
28:52 in the time it took to do a YouTube.
28:53 - Genuinely though, we pulled into this
28:55 sort of narrow parking bay,
28:57 got to the end and went, "Oh, there's no spot there."
28:59 And I couldn't get out.
29:01 I couldn't reverse 'cause there was a car waiting.
29:02 And I had to do an Austin Powers turn to get out.
29:05 Maisie had to get out of the car
29:06 and actually tell me what was at the back
29:08 because the reversing camera's on a 45 degree angle.
29:10 - And twisted and down.
29:12 Yeah, that was a little bit odd.
29:14 - It's not the point of that truck.
29:16 And when we take it off road,
29:17 which we've done in our video of it,
29:19 Mahindras are always incredibly capable.
29:21 It got up all sorts of stuff
29:23 with two-wheel drive activated
29:25 where other cars struggle with four-wheel drive.
29:29 We know that the mechanicals underneath
29:30 are incredibly reliable
29:31 because it's designed to be an Indian farm ute
29:33 that's sold alongside tractors.
29:34 So I think viewed through that lens,
29:37 yeah, you'd crush up with a Land Cruiser 7
29:39 if you wanted to.
29:40 - Well, I mean, if you're running a big station
29:42 and you normally would go out
29:44 and buy a couple of Land Cruisers every year
29:45 for the farmhands to drive around,
29:47 why would you, like this,
29:49 well, if you're gonna give it to a 17-year-old ringer,
29:52 I'd much rather him in a $40,000 car
29:54 than a $80,000 car 'cause he's just gonna trash it
29:56 and smoke windfill rollies in it anyway.
29:58 So I think it's-
30:00 - You just spoke a different language there.
30:02 - So to all my country brethren, I hope you understood.
30:05 Look, it's not what you call
30:06 the most powerful thing in the world.
30:07 It's 100-odd kilowatts, 320 newton meters.
30:10 But did you actually get a drive off it, James,
30:12 when it was here?
30:13 - Not of this one.
30:13 I have driven one in the past
30:14 and yeah, I didn't get to drive this one.
30:17 (laughing)
30:18 - But you've driven one in the past.
30:19 Did you drive the manual or the automatic in the past?
30:21 - It was a manual.
30:22 - Yeah, see, now I think that's the pick,
30:24 but you can't get one anymore,
30:25 which is really disappointing.
30:26 But what did you think of it anyway?
30:28 'Cause it hasn't changed that much apart from the gearbox.
30:30 - It felt like a truck.
30:31 Yeah, I think that it's a very rugged, old school thing.
30:34 And actually, to be honest,
30:35 it's the same thoughts I had about the 70 series.
30:38 The 70 series is marketed as this big,
30:40 cool thing that everyone wants to buy.
30:42 But it's actually live with.
30:43 It's not anything particularly special
30:46 from a refinement or comfort perspective.
30:48 So, it's a specialist fit for purpose vehicle
30:52 and it's an interesting conversation around,
30:55 who would you recommend it to?
30:55 Or do you spend the money on a Land Cruiser 70?
30:58 I guess for some people having a five star ANCAP rate,
31:01 safety rating is really important.
31:02 The Land Cruiser has that.
31:03 But for beating around a paddock or you live regionally
31:08 and you're just going to town every now and then
31:11 to pick up something that you need,
31:12 a tray for other stuff, whether with your livestock
31:15 or whatever it is farm people do,
31:16 it's perfectly fine for that.
31:20 And you can save yourself a lot of money.
31:22 - Yeah, well, it's interesting 'cause 90 odd years ago,
31:24 a farmer's wife wrote to Ford of Australia and said,
31:26 "I need a car that can go to church on Sunday,
31:28 take the sheep to farmers markets on a Monday."
31:30 And this is absolutely fits the bill of the year
31:33 'cause it really does.
31:34 So, I'm curious, you guys,
31:36 we're gonna keep this one quite short
31:37 because I'd much rather people actually go
31:39 and watch our review 'cause Paul drove it
31:41 at the proving ground and it is a really fun review.
31:43 It's a fun little car.
31:44 So, just go and check it out.
31:45 But buy or pass, what would you go with this one?
31:48 - I don't have a farm and I will therefore pass.
31:51 - But if you did have a farm.
31:53 - I would definitely consider it given the choice
31:55 between that and either a very old Land Cruiser 70
31:59 or even a pretty basic two wheel drive D-Max BT50 Ranger.
32:04 I think the Mahindra would probably do more
32:06 and there is something very charming about how rugged it is.
32:08 - James?
32:09 - Yeah, I think if I had the purpose for it,
32:12 it would be something I'd consider for sure
32:13 rather than spending twice as much on something else.
32:16 I think it definitely is a very specialised thing
32:20 that if it fits your requirements
32:22 and you don't wanna be too flashy about it,
32:25 it definitely has a place.
32:26 - Well, if you own a Mahindra and if you bought
32:29 or if you've ordered a pickup,
32:30 leave a comment and let us know what you're excited about
32:32 and what colour because they come in a fun range of colours
32:35 unlike a lot of--
32:35 - If you put a red pickup, please call us.
32:37 - Yeah, let us know.
32:39 All right, guys, time for our picks of the week.
32:42 I'm gonna throw over to James first.
32:43 What have you got this week?
32:44 - So I spend a lot of time on social media
32:46 and Scott will know that I send him stupid reels
32:51 all the time and I came across this lady who was,
32:53 I think she's doing a car review
32:55 or some sort of marketing thing, but she's--
32:57 - It's insane if that's what she's trying to do.
32:59 - Yeah, it's in Mandarin
33:00 so I can't understand what she's saying,
33:02 but she does this thing where she's talking about the car
33:04 but she runs up to it and jumps into either an open door,
33:08 a boot or on top of the bonnet.
33:10 - Is this like the Bentley thing all over again?
33:12 - Well, it's sort of like that
33:13 'cause the video that I found is a guy
33:16 that stitched his version of it jumping into his own car
33:19 and I just found it so funny
33:20 and I had no idea what was going on.
33:22 - It's scary though.
33:23 Like she runs up to the open boot of this Audi A6
33:26 and launches herself into it, feet first,
33:30 but I'm just watching that going,
33:30 "I'd be hitting my head.
33:32 "I don't know what you're doing to the car."
33:33 It's weird.
33:34 - Well, your feet would be sticking out the other end,
33:36 to be fair.
33:37 - Yeah, my head's folded.
33:37 (laughing)
33:39 - You'd be putting your head out the back
33:41 and toes out the front.
33:42 But us normal people would probably fit in.
33:44 - You'd be fine.
33:45 - All right, Scott, what's your pick this week?
33:48 - I've got a video by Johnny Smith
33:51 who people will know from the Late Break show
33:54 and also from Fifth Gear back in the day
33:56 with the mutton chops.
33:57 And he drove the Volkswagen XL1,
33:59 which is from a different era at Volkswagen entirely.
34:02 It's essentially the Bugatti Veyron of hypermiling.
34:05 They targeted the one liter per 100 kilometers fuel economy
34:09 and built this incredible supercar looking thing
34:12 with flip up gull wing doors,
34:13 but a really lightweight stripped out interior.
34:16 It's a fascinating look at a different time
34:19 in the motoring world
34:20 where electric cars weren't really a thing
34:22 and brands were really focused on
34:24 what's the most extreme way we can hypermile.
34:27 I also really enjoy Johnny Smith as a presenter.
34:29 I think he's really passionate and knowledgeable.
34:31 And I did love him going into the details,
34:33 actually driving the car
34:34 and kind of just showing off what I think
34:36 is probably forgotten on the back of Dieselgate,
34:39 but also the incredible technological achievement
34:41 that is the Veyron.
34:43 - And did it reach one liter per 100 kilometers?
34:45 - It actually exceeded that, I think.
34:46 So they were targeting something crazy
34:48 like 240 US miles per gallon.
34:51 I think they ended up getting 250.
34:53 - Wow.
34:54 - It is a really incredible piece of engineering.
34:56 - That is a cheap car to run, but probably not to buy.
34:59 - Not to buy anymore, no.
35:00 - Well, my pick this week is actually
35:02 a bit of shameless self-promotion.
35:05 Recently, we did a trip from Melbourne to the Bend
35:08 in a couple of Porsche GT3 RSs.
35:11 Paul and Albers drove them
35:12 and Igor and I went along to film it.
35:13 And we spent the few days in a Porsche Cayenne S.
35:16 - Lovely.
35:17 - It was a very hard trip.
35:18 Igor and I really suffered through that.
35:20 Especially there was a cold morning
35:21 where we had to put the heated seats on.
35:23 - On full though.
35:23 - It was on full, yeah.
35:26 But no, the point is that that trip was really fun
35:28 and those cars are absolutely phenomenal.
35:30 And what's been really cool.
35:32 So click up here if you want to watch it
35:33 'cause this is a really fun video.
35:34 So I do encourage you to check it out
35:36 and we'll put a link in the description
35:37 or if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
35:40 But what I've seen since then
35:42 is just so much Porsche GT3 RS content coming out.
35:46 I saw Top Gear did a thing
35:48 where it's just slow motion drifting of a GT3 RS.
35:51 They're popping up everywhere
35:53 and they are just so fricking cool.
35:55 (laughing)
35:57 I thought it was cool before
35:58 but I am genuinely in love with those cars now.
36:00 You don't need to tell me twice.
36:01 Porsche 911 GT3 is my dream car.
36:04 - Yeah, where do you stand on it James?
36:05 You drive a Golf.
36:07 It's sort of similar, it's sort of related.
36:08 - I do actually say I drive the people's 911.
36:10 - Yes.
36:11 (laughing)
36:12 If you reverse it is.
36:13 - I was gonna say, yeah.
36:13 (laughing)
36:16 Yeah, I think I've never really been as fascinated
36:19 with Porsches as someone like Scott.
36:21 I've always found like especially the lower grade ones
36:25 a bit boring and obviously there's that joke
36:27 that every generation is the same as last year
36:30 to the point where you could call it a beetle
36:32 which is obviously offensive to the amount of work
36:35 that goes into engineering these cars.
36:36 - Yeah, the beetle works really hard.
36:38 - It does, it does.
36:40 But yeah, I think when you get to that level
36:42 of like the turbo or the GT3 where the capabilities
36:45 of a car that is somewhat attainable for a privileged few
36:50 but the kind of things that they can do
36:54 and the way that Alborz described it on track
36:56 for example was just, it was incredible.
36:59 And I've not, I'm still yet to experience one fully
37:02 so please send me on a launch.
37:04 But the way that those cars sound,
37:07 the capability that's so close to a proper race car
37:11 and just how they look, they look fantastic.
37:13 - Wild.
37:14 - Yeah, I think--
37:15 - Especially the colors in the GT3 as well.
37:16 - Well, I think today I saw a GT3 touring on the freeway
37:19 that was in like Kermit green with bronze wheels
37:21 and I was like, do you know what?
37:22 I could drive one of those.
37:23 - It works, somehow it works.
37:25 - Yeah, and I think now Porsche has really caught on
37:28 to how if you make it look a little bit cooler
37:30 and a little bit more distinctive, people pay attention.
37:32 And now that they're so fat with the stupid wings
37:35 and the contrast decals, like they really have a presence now
37:38 so it's not just a beetle.
37:41 - Pretty much, well, yeah, look,
37:43 my pick is just GT3 RSs basically.
37:46 Look, next week we're gonna be taking a little bit
37:48 of a break, we're all the way with a whole heap of stuff on
37:51 so we're just gonna have a week off the podcast.
37:52 Feel free to head back in the library
37:53 and listen to some of the early ones
37:54 'cause there's some absolute crackers in there.
37:56 - What are you actually doing with your time?
37:57 I'm playing golf on my day off.
37:59 - Yes, I'm visiting my mom.
38:01 Actually, James will be here working,
38:03 but we didn't wanna leave him on his own.
38:06 So yeah, we'll be back the following week
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38:22 on another lovely cloudy day in Melbourne here.
38:25 We're hoping as we get to summer, we've got some nice days
38:27 so we can get out in some nice cars and do some nice drives.
38:30 And just quickly, any nice cars you have your eye on
38:33 to drive over the summer?
38:35 - I am very excited to experience the new Audi RS6.
38:40 - Who wouldn't be?
38:42 - Right, it's just touched down in Australia.
38:43 I just got an email about it, this is why I'm thinking
38:45 of this, but it was mind blowing to me,
38:48 the last one I drove.
38:49 So if there is a set of keys going around for one of those,
38:52 even for a day, I'm very much looking forward
38:53 to having a spin.
38:54 - What about you, James, you got anything you've got
38:56 your eye on?
38:56 - I'm just trying to think of--
38:58 - New Golf probably?
38:59 - Well, I do a lot of the booking.
39:00 So I've been trying to figure out what we've got.
39:03 - Maybe a Mahindra pickup.
39:04 - Yeah, maybe a Mahindra pickup.
39:05 I also booked in an MX5 for the team over summer.
39:08 And something about the MX5 in summer with the roof down
39:12 is just really, really cool.
39:13 - With your hair, definitely.
39:14 - Oh, exactly right.
39:15 - Yeah, that was mine, I don't have enough.
39:17 I can't afford to have the wind down.
39:18 - Yeah, I need you guys with a camera following me everywhere
39:20 so you can just see it coming out the top of the roof.
39:22 But yeah, I'm pretty happy with that kind of stuff,
39:26 to be honest.
39:26 - I'm gonna throw one more in the mix, sorry.
39:28 MG4 XPower.
39:29 - Okay.
39:30 - It's coming through our garage next week.
39:31 Sounds awesome on paper, can't wait to try it out.
39:32 - We will have some video content coming on that,
39:34 so make sure you subscribe to YouTube for that.
39:35 Guys, thanks for joining me.
39:36 Thanks everyone for watching.
39:37 We'll see you in a couple of weeks.