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Pakistan Minerals Investment Forum 2025 Ceremony - Mohammad Malick's Important Report
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"Yeh Kon Hotay Hen Kay 2 Behnu Ko Milnay Diya Gaya Aur...", Barrister Umair Niazi's Big Statement
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:15Today there was a big event in Islamabad, the International Mineral Investment Conference
00:19started.
00:20The big event is because the situation in Pakistan today, the news of terrorism and
00:26corruption.
00:27Whenever there is a big investment forum, it is very important for our image.
00:32Hopefully, the results will be good.
00:37But we saw controversy there as well.
00:39KP's chief minister did not come there.
00:43I thought the government will keep its attention focused on this issue.
00:48But then we saw that it became a non-issue to an issue.
00:52When Imran Khan's family went to meet him, they were not allowed to meet him.
00:57Two sisters were not allowed to meet him.
00:59Aleema Khan Sahiba was not allowed to meet him.
01:01And then there was a scene of hours.
01:03You saw it on social media, you saw it on television screens.
01:07Till about 9 or 9.30 p.m. there was a wedding in the house.
01:12The police said that he himself sat in the van and went there.
01:16They say that we were forced to stay here.
01:18Whatever the case.
01:19But this became news.
01:21And now there is a debate on it.
01:23But who is responsible?
01:27We will talk about this as well.
01:29And then today, after a long time, after a press conference,
01:32Salman Akhund Raja, Umar Ayub, Shibli Faraz, and other party leaders,
01:37Gaur Khan, who is also the chairman.
01:39And there, Salman Akhund Raja and those people who have been there for years,
01:43who despite that list go and meet Imran Khan.
01:47And about whom people are said.
01:49The PTI itself has said that the people whose list we give,
01:52they don't let them meet.
01:53And they let others meet.
01:55So after that, they did that, then why do people meet?
01:58All this rift that is going on right now.
02:00Along with that, we saw that a day ago,
02:02they had their,
02:06the notice that had happened,
02:08to Taimur Jagra,
02:09one of their committee, PTI,
02:12which they consider, that group,
02:14that Ali Ameen Ghandapur Sahib is bringing out his personal enmity.
02:18They gave a very comprehensive answer to that.
02:20They gave a thorough answer.
02:22And I don't think that Ghandapur Sahib is a very happy person right now.
02:25But I will talk about that answer as well.
02:27But along with that,
02:28they have also raised two or three very important questions,
02:31which themselves have raised questions on Ali Ameen Ghandapur Sahib,
02:35on his credibility and his role.
02:38We will talk about all these things.
02:41Along with that,
02:42I would like to make a comment on the investment conference.
02:45One comment was very good today.
02:47When the Prime Minister said that we have decided
02:50that raw minerals will not be exported,
02:53but you should process them here.
02:55Why do I say that is a good thing?
02:57It is a good thing because if you send processed things,
03:01it will be a value-added thing.
03:03And this is a revenue-sharing formula.
03:05Pakistan gets more money from it.
03:07And the second thing is,
03:08if the processing happens here,
03:10the smeltering plants are plants that use a lot of electricity.
03:14So our electricity will also be affected a lot.
03:17But the biggest issue is there as well.
03:19The jewel in the crown,
03:21in all the talks about minerals,
03:23is Balochistan.
03:25And at the same time,
03:26the elephant in the room is also Balochistan.
03:28If the problem of Balochistan is very important to be solved,
03:31if you have invested trillions of dollars
03:33in the mining industry,
03:36then if you are thinking out of the box about Balochistan,
03:40then the solution is also out of the box.
03:42We will talk about that in the coming days as well.
03:44But today, let's talk about current politics.
03:46Dr. Farhanullah has joined us.
03:49He is the Senator, Senior Leader of PMLN.
03:52Umair Niazi is the Senior Leader of PMNI-PTI.
03:55And Kamran Murtaza has also joined us.
03:57He is the Senator.
03:59He is also working on the JUAF.
04:01Let's start from here.
04:04It is such a big day for you.
04:06Such a big event.
04:08An important event for Pakistan.
04:10Where are you all?
04:12You are not letting us meet.
04:14There is a new drama going on.
04:16The Punjab Police is misbehaving with the journalists.
04:18The Punjab Police should be scolded.
04:20They are misbehaving with them.
04:22The family is going back and forth.
04:24Why?
04:26Who does this?
04:27Is this planned or a simple capacity crisis?
04:32In the name of God.
04:34Even today, six people have met with Imran Khan.
04:38Even today.
04:40One of them was a politician.
04:42The rest were lawyers.
04:44Now, the meeting...
04:46I have been a journalist the whole day.
04:48I am telling you a reported thing.
04:50You can check it.
04:52According to the manual, the family can meet only on Thursday.
04:54Now, I don't know exactly.
04:56This is our daily news item.
05:00Why did you allow two sisters to meet?
05:02Why did you stop Aneema Khan?
05:04You could have stopped all three of them.
05:06You could have stopped all three of them.
05:08You could have stopped all three of them.
05:10There must be a reason.
05:12I don't know exactly.
05:14But, I can tell you that
05:16there was a scuffle with the police.
05:18The PTI staff said bad things about them.
05:20The PTI staff said bad things about them.
05:22After that, the Punjab Police had to respond.
05:24After that, the Punjab Police had to respond.
05:26Why did you beat the journalists?
05:28I don't have any intention to beat the journalists.
05:30I don't have any intention to beat the journalists.
05:32But I can tell you that
05:34we took her sisters with great respect
05:36from there to the place where she is being held.
05:38Later, she decided to go to Lahore so she left.
05:40Later, she decided to go to Lahore so she left.
05:42What did she do from afternoon to 9.30 p.m.?
05:44What did she do from afternoon to 9.30 p.m.?
05:46See, it is the matter that
05:48she went to the court daily
05:50to ask for a meeting.
05:52This is also not a way
05:54to meet daily.
05:56If the court is saying that this is a violation of the court, then you cannot do anything about it.
06:00No, you are absolutely right, but this is not the way.
06:03You tell me, that Mian Nawaz Shiv Sahib was not allowed to meet him even on Friday night.
06:08This is a personal matter.
06:09This is a tit for tat.
06:10This is not a tit for tat.
06:11If this is a tit for tat, then he should have met him on Friday night.
06:13When these people used to do these things, then we used to criticize them.
06:16No, but I am saying that I am only talking about one day.
06:18No, no, listen, listen.
06:19This is a daily matter.
06:20These two wrongs don't make one right.
06:22You are absolutely right.
06:24No, no, I am not saying this.
06:26I am saying that apart from Friday night, there was no concept of meeting him.
06:29And even on Friday night, we used to meet sometimes.
06:31I have personally been there many times.
06:33I am just saying this.
06:34These were bad people.
06:35These were bad people.
06:36No, this is not bad.
06:37The thing is that, otherwise, they would have finished that jail manual.
06:40They would have given permission to the rest of the people to meet him as many times as they wanted.
06:43This is not how it works.
06:44This is not how it works.
06:45This is not how it works.
06:46So, for how many people do you open the jail on Sunday morning at 7 am?
06:49They don't open it either.
06:50This is what I am saying.
06:51They don't pick and choose.
06:52They don't talk about the rules.
06:54They would have opened all the jails.
06:55And they would have allowed everyone to meet him.
06:57Did you forcefully do this today?
06:58No.
06:59Look, they are giving references to the jail manual again and again.
07:01They have sold the jail manual.
07:03Look, one meeting is fixed.
07:05There is a scheduled meeting.
07:07On Tuesday, there is a family meeting.
07:09On Thursday, it is of your political leaders.
07:11Political leaders.
07:12I just remembered.
07:14On Thursday, there is a meeting of political leaders.
07:16Today, there is a meeting of lawyers.
07:17In front and behind Bukhla.
07:18And on Tuesday, there is a family meeting.
07:20It is a social concession.
07:21Look, a person against whom you have made more than 200 FIRs.
07:25Doesn't he have the right to meet his lawyer under client access?
07:31The law gives him this right.
07:33Can't his lawyers go?
07:35That is why the courts said that 6 Bukhla and 6 family members will meet on Tuesday.
07:39And this is not going on from today.
07:41Mr. Khan has been in jail since 5th August.
07:43This has been going on since then.
07:44But what is it?
07:45After 26th November, there was a narrow view that Mr. Khan does not want to meet anyone.
07:49Now look, who are these people who decide that Aleema Khan will not meet.
07:53The other two sisters will meet.
07:55Today, the other sister got angry.
07:57She stood up with her sister.
07:59And then you saw.
08:00But don't your other meetings get angry with the list people?
08:02No.
08:03Salman Akhran Wajahat got angry.
08:05I will tell you what happened.
08:06That is also fine.
08:07But look, if Barrister Gauhar has gone to the party, he is the chairman of the party.
08:11It is the chairman's right.
08:12Barrister Gauhar should always go.
08:14Because he did not go to the party list.
08:16Whenever he has gone, he has always been entertained.
08:19Because the party is the chairman.
08:20At least they have to be given so much leverage.
08:22But you are talking about the rest.
08:24Yes.
08:25As it is decided, it should be followed.
08:27As the secretary-general list is, it should be followed.
08:29It is obvious.
08:30In that, the Adyala people pick and choose.
08:32Let me add one thing in between.
08:34Look, you tell me one thing.
08:35Okay, we agree with all the courts.
08:37Does anyone in the world have to sit in jail and write an article in the international journals?
08:41And one after the other is being published.
08:43They are also responsible.
08:44You open the jail manual.
08:45You publish the article in the international journals.
08:48I have seen it in front too.
08:50I remember.
08:51But it is not being published.
08:52No, no.
08:53Now your article is being published.
08:54No article has come out of jail.
08:58No, no.
08:59Mr. Mian's speeches were also on TV.
09:01And he was like that.
09:02It was banned when Mr. Mian came.
09:04When he was in jail, it was banned.
09:06No, when he came back, he was still a convict.
09:08Things happened later.
09:10So his arrival was also shown.
09:12After that, it was completely shut down.
09:14It was blacked out.
09:15And there is no photo here.
09:16So don't go into these things.
09:18No, no.
09:19Mr. Malik, blackout is on Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
09:21His picture was not shown.
09:22Sir, we kept running his speeches.
09:23Don't do it in the showroom.
09:24No, when the situation got better, you ran it.
09:27It was not there from July 2019 to November 2020.
09:31I mean, I don't think there is any law.
09:33If someone is guilty, I go to his biometric airport and do the teaming.
09:37That didn't happen either.
09:38Don't go into those things.
09:39You can't defend it.
09:41No, sir.
09:42Come and get it done.
09:43What's wrong with you?
09:44That's fine.
09:45Don't write the law again.
09:46I didn't do anything wrong.
09:47The law has been completed.
09:48Okay, Mr. Murza has joined us.
09:50As-salamu alaykum, Mr. Khairon.
09:52Wa-alaikum as-salam.
09:53How are you, sir?
09:54Fine?
09:55Fine.
09:56You have been in a lot of trouble today.
09:58There have been a lot of debates since yesterday.
10:00When Mr. Sawati's statement came.
10:02And there were a lot of debates on it.
10:04As it is, sir, you have completed it.
10:06Today you have put your post on an X.
10:09That PTI has contacted the establishment.
10:12And has violated the terms and conditions set with us.
10:15Until PTI does not contact the establishment.
10:18We cannot move forward.
10:20I can say this for sure.
10:23But I didn't put that post on the X.
10:26I don't know which fake account it is.
10:28It's someone else's.
10:29Really?
10:30It's not yours?
10:31It's not mine.
10:33The picture is mine.
10:34Whoever is dealing with it.
10:36He doesn't go out of the party line.
10:38This is a strange thing.
10:39But do you agree with this?
10:41Are you satisfied with these thoughts?
10:44I am a little soft-spoken.
10:47In that, by the way.
10:49In that, in your past too.
10:51You had this breath.
10:52Mr. Ali Zafar.
10:54Talking in a program today.
10:56He gave a clarification on it.
10:58Listen to it.
10:59Maybe you will be satisfied.
11:01Absolutely.
11:02The meeting has taken place today.
11:04He said that as far as our relationship is concerned.
11:06The dialogue that Mr. Swati had done.
11:10Vlog.
11:11And I asked him.
11:13What instructions did you give?
11:15He said this.
11:16Yes, I said.
11:17If the country and the nation need it.
11:19Some kind of dialogue.
11:22Then I have certainly given them permission.
11:24In that, I have said very clearly.
11:27That my personal interest should not be found in it.
11:31Nor should it be discussed.
11:33I have heard.
11:34Now what do you say?
11:35Are you satisfied?
11:37No, I am satisfied.
11:39In that, it is like this.
11:41Mr. Khalid Swati's statement did not come.
11:43Mr. Ali Ameen's 2.5-3 hour meeting.
11:46That was.
11:47Then there was the doctor's story.
11:49So all this was there.
11:51Before this, this thing has been debated in our party.
11:54The fact at the moment is that.
11:57If someone has teeth power.
11:59Then he is a JUI.
12:01And we don't want this.
12:03We have debated.
12:05That someone uses our street power.
12:07With the establishment.
12:09Bargaining.
12:11To make matters better.
12:13This is why we had this condition.
12:16And what we had conveyed.
12:19The one who was with me.
12:21I conveyed him.
12:23And had taken proper notes.
12:25The other friends who were sitting.
12:27I can tell you their names.
12:29They had taken notes.
12:31No party, including JUI.
12:33This will not happen.
12:35From the government.
12:37Or from the establishment.
12:39Start fighting on their own.
12:41Climbed on someone's shoulder.
12:43So this.
12:45The matter has started from the third day of Eid.
12:47Mr. Swati's.
12:49By picking up the Holy Qur'an.
12:51Everything that has come.
12:53So now we.
12:55We can run our own movement.
12:57We can run it ourselves.
12:59There is no problem.
13:01So this.
13:03On one hand.
13:05One more thing that disturbs us.
13:07In the alliance.
13:09Have they been trusted?
13:11Before doing all this.
13:13This is also a question.
13:15So we.
13:17I don't know.
13:19What the party decides.
13:21But we are not ready to be used.
13:23Tell me this.
13:25Who was taking the notes?
13:27His name is very respectable.
13:29I can tell you the name.
13:31He was Mr. Hussain.
13:33Mr. Umair.
13:35Let's start with you.
13:37Today will be a tough day for you.
13:39No, no, Mr. Umair.
13:41You ask Mr. Niazi.
13:43You are sitting with PTI.
13:45You say it will never happen.
13:47Now I have accepted that things will happen.
13:49These people are.
13:51It is a chilled program.
13:53Where you have given such statements.
13:55They will be responsible.
13:57They will be the chief.
13:59They are not worried.
14:01They say that the relationship cannot be good.
14:03You are blowing hot and cold.
14:05And the interesting thing is that.
14:07I asked Mr. Rana yesterday.
14:09Why don't you let them meet?
14:11Who do you let meet?
14:13Why do you talk like this?
14:15Listen to their answer.
14:17And then listen to what your secretary general said today.
14:19Because it seems like.
14:21It used to be PTI vs.
14:23PTI vs. PMLN.
14:25PTI vs. PPP.
14:27Now it seems that it has become PTI vs. PTI.
14:29Listen to what happened yesterday.
14:31And what happened today.
14:33Who makes it so that on Eid.
14:35Neither Alima Khan could meet.
14:37Nor could Salman Akram Raja meet.
14:39Nor could Junaid Akbar meet.
14:41And after two and a half months.
14:43Ali Ameen Gandapur can meet.
14:45Perisha Saif can meet.
14:47The list they give.
14:49There are no meetings on it.
14:51The people who have gone to meet.
14:53These people are our people.
14:55Salman Akram Raja is their secretary general.
14:57It should have been.
14:59Ten, fifteen, twenty, fifty people.
15:01Whoever had reached.
15:03They would have stopped there.
15:05And they would have said.
15:07This is our secretary general.
15:09Sir, they are saying.
15:11We have gone eight times.
15:13We have gone nine times.
15:15We have waited for hours.
15:17They don't let us go inside.
15:19They say.
15:21Salman Akram Raja is our secretary general.
15:23We will go with his permission.
15:25Otherwise, we will not go.
15:27What happened in the High Court.
15:29What happened there.
15:31The decision made by the PTI.
15:33As their secretary general.
15:35They gave a written statement.
15:37According to that.
15:39We will run the matter there.
15:41In this way.
15:43Now their people.
15:45They are going there.
15:47We will go there.
15:49And ensure their discipline.
15:51Whatever happened today.
15:53It is completely unacceptable.
15:55The sisters were told.
15:57Two should go.
15:59One should not go.
16:01We are not subject to anyone's wish.
16:03If the family has the right to go.
16:05Then the whole family will go.
16:07The sisters gave proof of honor.
16:09Which said.
16:11None of us will go.
16:13If you do not send one.
16:15This is the list that will go.
16:17These are the people who will meet.
16:19You can not send one of them.
16:21And tell the rest.
16:23You are in our favor.
16:25So you all go.
16:27We will protest against it.
16:29I will protest against it.
16:31I am sorry.
16:33Why was the party discipline not followed?
16:35Those who have gone.
16:37If I am standing on the road.
16:39I am surrounded by the police.
16:41The sisters are sitting on the ground.
16:43This was the party discipline.
16:45We will take action on it.
16:47I am absolutely clear about this.
16:49This should not have happened.
16:51When our discipline was disciplined.
16:53We said that these people will meet.
16:55Who are they to decide.
16:57Who will meet and who will not meet.
16:59Those who meet according to their wishes.
17:01They doubt themselves in our eyes.
17:03They say that whoever meets.
17:05I have seen both of them for the first time.
17:07They agreed on one thing.
17:09They say that why do they meet.
17:11This is what you people think.
17:13Those who meet outside the list.
17:15Whether it is Ali Meen Gandapur.
17:17Whether it is Barista Saif.
17:19Whether it is Barista Ali Zafar.
17:21Whoever it is.
17:23This means that they are doubtful.
17:25Who will not want to meet Khan Sahib.
17:27Everyone in the party.
17:29Wants to meet Khan Sahib.
17:31If you look at the number of PTI gatherings.
17:33Why did all the people get on stage.
17:35That is not because.
17:37Your Secretary General is saying.
17:39That the people who will go outside the list.
17:41They are doubtful.
17:43They are playing their game.
17:45There are issues of discipline.
17:47These things can be sorted out.
17:49Has the party decided.
17:51That someone will go beyond the list.
17:53No one will go.
17:55If someone is stopped.
17:57No one will go.
17:59Such a decision has not been made yet.
18:01It is a matter of ordering your own house.
18:03It is a good thing that the list has been given.
18:05The list should go.
18:07The list should be prepared in advance.
18:09The act of consultation.
18:11Should be made better.
18:13Like Barista Ali Zafar.
18:15He is a traitor to the party.
18:17This should not go either.
18:19It is appropriate.
18:21You are saying that the Secretary General.
18:23Is angry.
18:25He is overreacting.
18:27This can be sorted out.
18:29You should make it clear.
18:31If such a situation arises in the future.
18:33This is bound to happen.
18:35If six lawyers have gone.
18:37One is left out.
18:39Five lawyers.
18:41Who have different cases.
18:43It can be stopped.
18:45Can't those five go?
18:47Who have to take vital instructions.
18:49That is also an issue.
18:51There are not a few cases of Mr. Khan.
18:53There is another dilemma of the political side.
18:55When you talk about Ali Ameen.
18:57Ali Ameen has a different role.
18:59Ali Ameen heads Apex.
19:01KPK.
19:03KPK has a government level interaction.
19:05There is another protocol.
19:07Ali Ameen is not found in these days.
19:09Ali Ameen is beyond the days.
19:11You have seen in the last few days.
19:13How to meet on Eid.
19:15Ali Ameen.
19:17He has a different role.
19:19He is outside the party discipline.
19:21He is meeting with his own effort.
19:23KPK government is involved.
19:25He facilitates.
19:27What is the point of stopping meetings?
19:29The procedure is the same.
19:31It can't be shown.
19:33There is no access to the media.
19:35You have broken up the meetings.
19:37Do you let people go?
19:39You don't let them go.
19:41Who are considered hawks.
19:43These are tough people.
19:45They will talk about more resistance.
19:47They will bring Mr. Khan to their knees.
19:49According to you.
19:51For example.
19:53Salman Akram Raja.
19:55He has a lot of aggression.
19:57Junaid Akbir.
19:59KPK President.
20:01Aleema Khan.
20:03They are very tough.
20:05You don't do anything.
20:07You do pick and choose.
20:09Tell me.
20:11The November 26 incident.
20:13Was it right?
20:15The SCO is being submitted.
20:17There is chaos outside.
20:19The president of Belarus.
20:21This is the responsibility of the state.
20:23To stop the spread.
20:25If someone is spreading it.
20:27This can't happen.
20:29I think.
20:31The lawyer will meet.
20:33The family will meet.
20:35The spread will spread.
20:37There was no spread on November 26.
20:39There are many stories.
20:41If you wanted.
20:43We would have started.
20:45The discipline of the party.
20:47The people are saying.
20:49The party.
20:51The instructions.
20:53The rest of the people.
20:55It is not our responsibility.
20:57It is the responsibility of the party.
21:01Tell me.
21:03In Pakistan.
21:05Problems are over.
21:07Job.
21:09Expense.
21:11There are many problems in this country.
21:13We are discussing.
21:15Have you met him?
21:17I have met him.
21:19I am not meeting him.
21:21I have met him.
21:23The problem is.
21:25He does not live in Pakistan.
21:27Where did he go?
21:29He was in jail for 1.5 years.
21:31After that he left.
21:33How many years did he stay out?
21:35He has been in jail for 2 years.
21:37He has been in jail for 4 years.
21:39He has not been in jail for 4 years.
21:41If you want to take an example.
21:43Give us 30 years.
21:45We will be in jail for 2 years.
21:47We have been in jail for 2 years.
21:49Give us 30 years.
21:51He has been in jail for 4 years.
21:53He has been in jail for 4 years.
21:55What kind of environment do you want?
21:57No one should go to meet him.
21:59Everyone should meet him once a week.
22:01Everyone should pretend.
22:03That Imran Khan is not there.
22:05We do not want this.
22:07We do not want this.
22:09We want.
22:11Other people are in jail.
22:13They have rights.
22:15Do not do this.
22:17People are going to meet him daily.
22:19People are going to meet him daily.
22:21There is no way to meet him.
22:23You should finish him.
22:25Then you should put him in jail.
22:27I will tell you.
22:29All the meetings of Imran Khan.
22:31No other political leader has met him.
22:33When Mian Nawaz Sharif was in jail.
22:35He was so strict.
22:37He did not let anyone meet him.
22:39He could not go there.
22:41He could not go there.
22:43He could not go there.
22:45These were the cases.
22:47He has got a good jail.
22:49He should be thankful.
22:51He is getting his food.
22:53People are coming to meet him.
22:55He has got exercise machines.
22:57We could fulfill his wishes.
22:59We could fulfill his wishes.
23:03Jail is a good thing.
23:05In the nature of the cases.
23:07What kind of cases have you put Imran Khan?
23:11You should be ashamed.
23:13Instead of being ashamed.
23:15you should be ashamed of putting Imran Khan in jail.
23:17You should be ashamed of putting Imran Khan in jail.
23:19In future these cases are going to stop.
23:21In future these cases are going to stop.
23:23Why has KPK not come today?
23:31KPK has a very good future.
23:33KPK has a very good future.
23:37KPK has good prices.
23:39KPK has good prices.
23:41We all want investment in Pakistan, but there is no political stability in this country.
23:52What would have happened if they had come?
23:54There would have been a message that all the Chief Ministers are sitting together,
23:57and everyone is together on a national issue.
23:59How can we engage the KPK government on such an issue?
24:02Has anyone engaged in the matter of minerals?
24:05That this investment is coming.
24:07You are not letting the KPK government breathe.
24:10You are blaming it again and again for terrorism.
24:14You are not giving a share of its merged districts.
24:18They are giving references to the NFC award again and again to give us our money.
24:22Even yesterday, there was a calling attention notice.
24:24You are not looking at those things.
24:26Now you are looking at the vital resources of the KPK.
24:29See, if Sindh can raise its voice for its water,
24:32then isn't it permissible for Balochistan and KPK to talk about this?
24:37Mr. Kamran, tell me one thing.
24:39The issue of Sindh is being discussed on water.
24:42That is very easily doable.
24:44If the government installs a net metering system,
24:47then the debate would be over as to where the water of the province is going.
24:50That would also be clear.
24:52You can call the Council of Common Interest and solve that issue.
24:56Today, these people did not come on the issue of minerals in the KPK.
25:01Mr. Kamran, some people think that the People's Party and PTI
25:08take special stance on those projects
25:12in which they feel that these are models of a hybrid regime
25:16and not purely of a political government.
25:18Perhaps, this is being messaged.
25:20Do you think this is being messaged?
25:22Is there a deliberate messaging on both these things?
25:25Or is it just a matter of chance that two things have happened?
25:29Mr. Zardari was present in the issue of water.
25:34There was an implied or express consent.
25:39Later, when the JUI and the Congress made a fuss,
25:43they also started making a fuss.
25:46So, this is the issue in that.
25:48The rest of the problems are of the people of the state.
25:55See, this is a devolved subject.
25:57We are entering a devolved subject.
26:00I am not saying that whatever the CM of the KPK did was good.
26:06But what our CM did was also not good.
26:09We are cutting our own hands and getting them caught.
26:14And whatever is ours, we are also giving it.
26:17If there are provinces and if they have a presence,
26:21they are in the provinces.
26:23So, this is the biggest issue in our case.
26:26It is a matter of approval.
26:28But there is no such issue in that.
26:31The federal government cannot impose anything.
26:34The provincial governments will sit in the agreements.
26:37That will also be part of the negotiations.
26:40Then there is a question that everyone talks about.
26:43See, this might be a deal, it will be cheaper.
26:46There has been no exploration for 75 years.
26:49And if the situation continues like this,
26:52there will be no next 150 years.
26:54So, what is the use of that?
26:56Then remove it from the devolved subject.
26:59First, you make a hybrid government.
27:02You bring people of your choice in the provinces.
27:05Then you get them to consent.
27:07You get new legislation done.
27:09You get old legislation abrogated.
27:11Get it done now.
27:13So, in this way, doubts also arise.
27:17Missed?
27:20I think his frame has frozen.
27:23Let's reconnect him again.
27:27Let me tell you a little about the telemetry system.
27:30It is still running.
27:32It will be completed in a year.
27:35And all the main points,
27:37where the water is coming from,
27:39where the water is going to the provinces,
27:41there will be a telemetry system.
27:43It is very exact.
27:46Will this project be delayed for a year?
27:49The issue of the Punjab well.
27:51There is a fight going on right now.
27:55There is a redistribution of water in Punjab.
27:59If the water is being redistributed in Punjab,
28:01what is the problem?
28:03Their stance is this.
28:05Your irrigation department has said
28:07that there is very little water in Punjab.
28:09And our water is already disappearing in Punjab.
28:12Leave it like this.
28:14Our water is already disappearing in Punjab.
28:17Now there was only one forum on it,
28:19Council of Common Interest.
28:21You don't call a session for that.
28:23It's been a year and a half.
28:25By the way, you put a mirror in our necks in everything.
28:28If you want to do PICA,
28:30then these are the rights according to the mirror.
28:32You hang us in PICA.
28:34There will be something else.
28:36It is against the mirror.
28:38Where you have the responsibility
28:40to call a meeting of the Council of Common Interest
28:42It's been a year and a half.
28:44It's a cold program.
28:46No one is calling.
28:48At that time, it is convenient for you.
28:50Look, this project would never have started
28:52if the President had not approved it.
28:54And there have been multiple meetings on it.
28:56And this is recorded.
28:58It's not like I'm saying it in the air.
29:00Their statement was that
29:02funds should be provided for these projects in the morning.
29:04I think you can say that
29:06the President also said that
29:08this is a very good idea.
29:10He has no right to approve.
29:12Whose government is in Sindh?
29:14It is of the People's Party.
29:16Our government can stand without
29:18the coalition of the People's Party.
29:20Then why don't we take Mr. Zardari seriously?
29:22You tell me.
29:24When Mr. Zardari will say something,
29:26you can say it.
29:28When Mr. Zardari stood in the parliament
29:30and said that
29:32you should not listen to your government.
29:34That your government should not
29:36take unilaterally one-sided decisions.
29:38Don't you take it seriously at that time?
29:40We take it seriously at that time also.
29:42It was their stance.
29:44This project would never have started
29:46if the President had not approved it.
29:48I am with you.
29:50There should be a telemetric system.
29:52The question is
29:54it will take a year to install a telemetric system.
29:56Your fight is now.
29:58What kind of canal will be built?
30:00It is a very long project.
30:02These are flat canals.
30:04They are going to be permanent.
30:06Major Mahmood Shaheed's canal
30:08is worth Rs. 250 billion.
30:10It will not be built in a year.
30:12No one has that much money.
30:14It will be built over many years.
30:16This is the matter.
30:18Let me tell you one thing.
30:20You should give us a consolation.
30:22We will do it after a year.
30:24Listen to me.
30:26If we assume that
30:28X amount of land is irrigated
30:30from Y amount of water.
30:32Such technologies have come
30:34into being.
30:36You can irrigate 2X amount of land
30:38from Y amount of water.
30:40You can consume your water in a better way.
30:42You can plan for it.
30:44You can use new technology.
30:46There are many things in the Green Pakistan Initiative.
30:48You are politicizing it
30:50in such a way
30:52that it becomes
30:54a Kalawag dam.
30:56This is not right.
30:58You should not politicize it.
31:00I am saying this with 100% consensus.
31:02People's Party is our valuable
31:04coalition partner.
31:06We will work with them.
31:08But they should also see
31:10that no one touches their water.
31:12This will be ensured
31:14by the telemetry system.
31:16I will tell you one thing.
31:18The old system
31:20is not a system
31:22where you sit and wait.
31:24It has a science.
31:26You sit and calculate
31:28how much water has come and gone.
31:30This is an old system.
31:32You should not politicize it.
31:34Water is limited.
31:36We do not have unlimited water.
31:38We are wasting water.
31:40We do not want to make storage.
31:42We are talking about redistributing it.
31:44We are burning our lawn.
31:46We want to do rooftop gardening.
31:48What should be the focus?
31:50You are saying that you will not cut
31:52the water of Sindh.
31:54Will you cut the water of Punjab?
31:56You are taking water to a desert.
31:58The soil of the desert
32:00does not have water retention.
32:02It needs more water.
32:04You should first
32:06populate the areas of Punjab
32:08where the water retention of the soil is good.
32:10You should not take the crop properly from there.
32:12What is your problem?
32:14Today, the problem of the farmer is of manure.
32:16Compare it with India.
32:18How much urea are you getting there?
32:20Rs. 1200.
32:22How much urea are you giving?
32:24You are giving a bag of DAP to a farmer
32:26who is very poor.
32:28Let's talk about this.
32:30Before that,
32:32I want to talk about politics.
32:34Kamran Bhai has joined us.
32:36Please re-join us.
32:38I want to ask him that
32:40all your factions have come out.
32:42Earlier, they used to say that
32:44they will not understand
32:46whom to talk to for the alliance.
32:48After Eid,
32:50there will be a complete cut
32:52and there will be an alliance.
32:54I want to ask Kamran
32:56about this.
32:58Kamran,
33:00after the break,
33:02I want to ask you that
33:04a lot of factions
33:06have come out.
33:08A lot of fighting has started.
33:10Whom will you talk to
33:12in all these factions?
33:14One faction is of Ali Meen Gandapur.
33:16One faction is of Junaid Akbar
33:18and other people.
33:20One faction is with
33:22Nawaz Khan.
33:24One faction is with
33:26Busha Bibi.
33:28Whom will you talk to
33:30after the break?
33:36Welcome back to the show.
33:38Kamran,
33:40which PTI are you making an alliance with?
33:48I have made an alliance
33:50with Hassad Qaiser.
33:52We have talked to him
33:54in the past.
34:00We have spoken to him
34:02in the past.
34:08Please take the call.
34:40pay-off, backed by Cabinet, Parliament, and Pension Board approval.
35:15The Chief Executive claims that he has invested Rs. 75 crores in the party from his own pocket.
35:29His declared assets are worth Rs. 10 crores.
35:33How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
35:38The Chief Executive claims that he has invested Rs. 75 crores in the party from his own pocket.
36:08How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
36:38How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
37:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
37:28How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
37:38How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
38:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
38:30How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
39:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
39:20How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
39:40How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
40:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
40:20How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
40:40How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
41:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
41:20How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
41:40How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
42:10How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
42:30How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
43:00How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
43:30How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
43:50How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
44:20How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
44:50How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?
45:10How can he spend Rs. 75 crores on the party when he has assets worth Rs. 10 crores?