15 mins of Heat! Jimmy Butler says "Heat Culture" is a bit overused... We hear from Heat Nation and how they feel about his comments and how he should be greeted.
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00:00Make sense play a little Taylor Swift for your breakup breakup vibes
00:09And that of course is
00:12I'm referring to the breakup between
00:15Miami Heat and
00:18Jimmy
00:19buckets
00:21Listening to the Tobin and Leroy show here on 560 QA m and this is
00:2815 minutes of heat
00:32now
00:33we
00:35Have spoken a lot about heat culture in the past and how it defines and shapes
00:42this Miami Heat basketball team this
00:45Organization from the people who work in the arena to those who represent them nationwide
00:52Heat culture is always talked about for sure now when asked about heat culture
00:58Jimmy Butler responded to Anthony Slater of the athletic
01:02There was some foundation to it in the sense of the work and all that stuff, which is great
01:07Not saying it in a bad way, but I think it's a little bit like overused talking about heat culture
01:13It's a great organization, but I think a large part of the culture is you get guys that buy into a winning mindset
01:21You get guys that buy in you get some really good players and you get the opportunity to talk about heat culture a little bit
01:27More says he's not saying it to talk down or anything
01:30But he thinks whenever you have really good players, you can name it. Whatever you want
01:35agree
01:37So you're saying heat culture may be a little bit overused
01:41I'm saying that I realize you hated the heat. Yeah. No, here's what here's what he's saying
01:49And I agree with
01:51talent wins games
01:53You can put whatever twist you want on it. But at the end of the day when he were winning
01:59Basketball games it was the overall talent that was winning those games. They do things a certain way, correct
02:07But let's not make it sound like you can just grab anybody
02:11To go in and win basketball games
02:14You need to have talent
02:17That's all he's saying that yeah, isn't it funny when
02:23Heat culture was at his best was when LeBron D Wade and Bosch was playing
02:29Right, so you can put in and I'm saying that
02:35There is something
02:37To how you do things he told you where you work you and the way you work and how you do things
02:46but if you go back through the history of
02:48the Miami Heat
02:51There's always been talent on the end of that
02:54When there was no talent, they won 15 games. They had heat culture then
02:58Yes, still still had heat culture. So I mean the early days like even before
03:04Before Shaq Shaq came here and had to adapt to heat culture. He culture existed before the first championship
03:10Yes, but but yes, but you still
03:14Don't confuse a way in which an organization does things
03:21With the amount of talent it takes to win
03:26We have some sound here from Jimmy Butler I
03:30Would prefer him say it over you saying what he said because you can put your own twist on it
03:36Fair I although I didn't read direct quotes from Anthony Slater's interview with him trying to find the audio but uh,
03:44believe
03:46You know, I couldn't do it get over it. How about that?
03:50Yeah, we do have audio from him though about being the bad guy and how he doesn't mind it this is Jimmy Butler
04:06Hey Vlad play that so we could all hear brother
04:13I wonder if they look at the heat the same way and like I wasn't when I was doing everything so
04:18It's got to be 50 50 maybe 51 49 49 towards them 51 towards me
04:24But there's no way that I was a cause of all of this
04:30Did you notice that you'd be coming back during Miami open
04:34No, I
04:36Yeah, of course. I'm sure he was gonna make some time for Miami open. But do you think the fan base feels that way?
04:43Do you think the fan base feels like it is?
04:465149 like it's that close because I don't think the fan base feels like it's that close
04:49I think you're either one way or the other you either think
04:52Pat Riley dropped the ball and he's asleep at the wheel or you think Jimmy, baby
04:58at no point in time
05:01And you know, am I gonna tell any
05:04organization
05:06any human any person
05:09to pay somebody
05:11For a service, you don't know you're gonna get two years down the line
05:17The questions that the Miami Heat
05:21had
05:22About Jimmy Butler were what everybody knew
05:26He doesn't play enough games
05:29Are we correct in that assessment? Yes
05:32Okay, this problem. So if he had proven that he was gonna commit to it
05:39Enough games, I'm more than sure that he could have came back and then
05:46Gave him 60 million
05:49but the fact that they didn't and
05:51And Jimmy chose to go the other way, which is not play for the money that they're paying him now
05:59That puts a lot of it on him
06:02Because you still getting paid for now
06:06Well
06:07Let's uh, let's see what heat nation thinks about it
06:10Let's go ahead and head over to the phone lines for a second
06:14If you have any opinions on Jimmy Butler, you can line it up now. 305
06:18There's a chance you can potentially win a family four-pack of heat tickets too if you do so so that's a little bit extra
06:24Enticing for you to go ahead and give us a call. Let's go to the phone lines now. I believe this is Louis
06:30Who is on line one here?
06:34Louis
06:38No longer
06:40I think I think that's has enough. All right, let's go to line two
06:44It is Ricardo Ricardo, what's up, dude, how do you feel about Jimmy Butler? Are you mad at the heat?
06:50Are you mad at him? And how should we greet him tonight?
06:54Well, firstly, I don't think we should be mad at him as much
06:59for basically
07:01All the years that he has given us, you know, we became relevant after Dwayne Wade left and retired
07:07And we've been doing a lot of work together
07:09All the years that he has given us, you know, we became relevant after Dwayne Wade left and retired and stuff there's no question that
07:18He should be a heat hall of famer
07:21All right, however
07:22to be
07:23You know rooting for his downfall and his failure at this point now
07:28This guy has worked his butt off his entire career and eventually he's gonna have to either win something or not
07:33but
07:34I will end it with this
07:36Because uh, I couldn't I can't say it no more in the chat
07:40Jim vp
07:42Jim vp
07:44You know what get this out of here dude get this guy out of here
07:48too mature
07:51Too mature too positive so it's like
07:57I
07:59I will say that i'm not I don't understand how we just overlooking the fact
08:04that
08:05The problem that he'd had with him was he wasn't playing enough games
08:10I think we know that problem, dude
08:12We wanted him to play more games
08:13So you want to pay him for two years down the line when he's only playing 60 games now?
08:18What's that gonna look like in two years? I think everybody has really understood both sides of the situation
08:25I did
08:27There is both sides of there is jimmy wants his money and he didn't want to give it
08:33Wait, that's it. It's simple. Why didn't riley want to give it?
08:36I mean, it makes sense why riley because he didn't want to pay a man who's gonna be 39 60 million dollars
08:42And he was already playing less games now. All right, and the other guys like i've been busting my ass
08:49Making sure you guys are relevant. I haven't gotten help the players that you put around me don't seem to
08:56Be that so therefore I want to get paid
09:01That's all fine then then then here's my other question blade
09:05I would respect that
09:08Why would you say it wasn't about the money that's both that's why listen
09:12Both sides are trying to make each other look, you know, he never said anything
09:17jimmy
09:18Jimmy's just he got everything he wants. He got everything that he wanted
09:22So right now he like I said, he could say anything he could say anything right now
09:26He's gonna believe it's true because in his eyes he won this
09:30and the fact that they're what 15 and three in his uh,
09:34Since he's been there in the in the heat of 4 and 17. Yeah
09:39He's gonna say whatever he wants right now doesn't matter. He got his money. He got out of south florida. He's good
09:46Now he just has to face
09:48this, uh
09:49This reception tonight at cassia center
09:52All right, let's go to the phone lines again
09:56Caller oh caller number one
10:02You were on the air, what is your name?
10:04My name is mike mike. What are your feelings on jimmy butler's return?
10:10to the miami
10:12I am wrapped off a ship on this guy
10:15There we go
10:17I'm tired of these guys saying, you know being mature
10:22uh
10:23Saying they're gonna welcome him back
10:25And you know all the years that he gave us that's in the past. We're in the present
10:31He's not on our team anymore
10:33I hope he loses
10:35They can make the first round of the playoffs and then get eliminated in four games. That's right
10:41If I win those tickets i'll go with my my girlfriend her daughter and her father and we'll boo him the entire time
10:49Please put this man. Well, let me give you the bad news about that. Oh leroy no versus bubble yet
10:55You're not going to tonight's game
11:05Will it be packed tonight?
11:07Absolutely go to the state south go in the state south they're gonna be right but but it it
11:13Was probably packed before jimmy got there, right? Absolutely. Okay. All right now all of a sudden now people hit me up
11:23Uh, let's go ahead to line two and get one more caller, uh caller, what is your name?
11:32My name is ricky ricky what do you think about jimmy butler?
11:37I must be the opposite of our friend ricardo. Okay, because ricardo's mature. Let's just go ahead and let's just go ahead and do this
11:44Yeah, leroy, we're gonna pay him 60 million. You're right 60 million in two years sounds bad
11:49But somebody right now in the nba who's going to average 14 points a game who's averaging 28 right now
11:55Is going to get 75 million a season. Oh, man, we know that
11:59Every time you jump these salaries you get to 60 million. Somebody's going to get to 75
12:03Duncan's salary doesn't look as bad annually because of what people are being paid today
12:09Right, the new contracts always make annual salaries look crazy
12:12But I will add one little nugget to this. All right. All right. Here it comes. He saddled us. He saddled us with kyle. Lowry
12:20Oh, look at that us with kyle. Lowry. How could he how could he he got us fat kyle?
12:27Yep, we're doing it leroy. It's also it's also brought us terry rosier
12:31You lost exactly look at that dude look at that look at the butterfly effect of kyle's big old butt
12:38Look, okay
12:41That look that is an analysis that I don't know I need in the butt
12:50Ain't nothing wrong when you're doing the butt all night long
12:58Hey, so
13:00wow
13:01so
13:01That's a new I haven't heard that term
13:04And i've been talking about booties my whole life
13:07butterfly butt
13:10I did you know what that's that's a different type of butt that's uh, you know, I want all of that clip, please by the way
13:19On friday, there's a there's a there's a worker with a tattoo and if you know what
13:23Let's just keep it moving the miami heat and jimmy butler's reunion is tonight
13:29We got mixed feelings on who?
13:32will
13:33Come out victorious. Oh, well here
13:37Let's be clear
13:40The warriors are playing better basketball right now, yeah, but if we don't i'm not so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna
13:47Just broke our streak to this
13:50back, however
13:52They lost I would say
13:55I would say this is the first time
13:59I want to say that i'm gonna go on a limb and say this
14:03Yeah, this might be the first time all year two players score 70 for the heat
14:08I'm, sorry. What? Oh, I get you like combined. Yes
14:13Okay, that'd be nice because like let's just think about it this way glad you love basketball or whatever
14:22If you're star players
14:24You're two high paid players
14:27You're two, uh
14:31All-star players
14:34Are scoring 40 points. How many games are you winning if they're scoring only 40 points?
14:40about 30
14:41If both my star players are scoring 40 points, unless I know i'm talking about
14:48combined
14:49Combined great defense. I'm not winning i'm gonna be um, pretty much about the heat record pretty much a heat record. Yeah, correct
14:57I'll be like 10 games below when you look at all the teams
15:01Leading their division contending for the lead in in the conference. No, your point is right
15:07most teams
15:09All 30 teams need two guys who can average 20 20 points, right? But 2025
15:15Right 25. They I say that your two-star needs to score 50 on the nightly
15:20Gotta average 50 points minimum at a at a nightly basis, right? Fine
15:25You're really a good team if you have a third scorer who can give you
15:2918 to 20
15:31Pretty much that so 18. Let's just say 18
15:34And then if you got somebody on the bench that can give you double figures, you're really good
15:39The heat don't really have that
15:41Right. Nope
15:42so that's why
15:44Even when jimmy was there you did have three 20 point scorers
15:47But it still wasn't enough at times because they weren't all scoring 20 on the same night because they were right they were soft
15:54No, it's not a matter of being soft jimmy
15:59Here's what I would say is not fair wasn't fair to jimmy
16:05Jimmy is a certain type of player
16:08he he does
16:10a lot of a
16:11lot on a basketball court
16:14But it's not all scoring
16:17When you have a team that's struggling scoring
16:20You need your guy
16:23To be a score
16:25That was never jimmy. So now when you go to
16:29You know when he goes to golden state
16:32They got a score
16:35Jimmy can just relax and do the things that he's always done
16:39Periodically, that might be a 28 point game a 30 point game
16:44right
16:45But for the most part he's going to be around
16:4815 to 20
16:50he gonna have between
16:527 and 10 rebounds
16:54He gonna shoot a boatload of free throws
16:58And he's gonna have a couple of steals and play great defense. That's what jimmy has been
17:06And so like yeah, it fits better in golden state because the things that we wanted jimmy to do
17:16Didn't best fit what jimmy was
17:20And it's not a knock on him
17:22Because he would come out periodically
17:26And just say i'm taking over
17:28But it almost seemed like that jimmy wore on him
17:33Right
17:35I don't know whether he thought it was too much work because now
17:39Every time jimmy put on the heat uniform, you had to wonder what jimmy was going to show up
17:44Yeah, and you tried to make the circumstances
17:47The circumstances fit the reason why jimmy was going to show up tonight
17:54That's the reality of it
17:56Like if if if tyler was shooting bricks and you needed jimmy to take over
18:0315 8 and 5 wasn't gonna get it done and that's what he was doing
18:10Well, so he's in a better place for jimmy butler's game
18:15He is in a better place now
18:20But when he was here and we all expected him to be that number one that stud
18:29He had stretches
18:31But he wasn't like could you depend on 25 from jimmy every night
18:37Nope no, okay
18:40So
18:41Well, if you are in kaseya center tonight, make sure you boo very loud because we wish him no success over here
18:47I am drawing a line in the sand. No tribute video. We will not be selling coffee
18:52We will not be playing country music. We will not be supporting emo. Jimmy
18:58We will not be allowing number 22 jerseys
19:02Unless they are andrew wiggins jerseys
19:05It is bleep the other side
19:08You're dead to me jimmy butler I wish you no success
19:13miami heat in five
19:16In five weeks, we'll be done with their season but not before we beat jimmy butler