15 mins of Heat! On a more positive note, Tyler Herro spoke highly of Kel'el Ware as the 7 footer puts in his Lob orders like a Deli. Erik Spoelstra also makes a comment on Kel'el Ware making... improvements. Confusion continues, how is anything Jimmy doing helping his cause or the Heat's situation? Tobin does his best to see through the smoke screens from both sides.
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00:00Miami Heat back on the hardwood tonight you rascals
00:07Ten o'clock tip-off from crypto.com arena
00:10Lakers four and a half point favorites tonight as
00:15The Heat get ready for them
00:18Seems he's on the record pretty much
00:20Love to see if Kalel can keep his feet in front of a D
00:25Yeah, there is a 80 is dealing with a foot thing, but he says that he's probable LeBron has a foot, but he's probable
00:34Dorian Finney Smith is doubtful for a personal reason
00:39And Bronnie James is questionable with an illness
00:43So those are your injuries tonight for the Lakers the Heat
00:47just the big thing to monitor is BAM out of bio and his status for tonight, so
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01:22Kalel where of course coming off a big fourth quarter in a game that kind of got away from the heat against the
01:28La Clippers, but Tyler hero with some praise for the giant Kryptonian
01:36He's one of my favorite players in the NBA so I mean just just watching him grow really excited for it, you know
01:44He's a guy that just keeps taking steps forward. He loves to learn loves to pick up on different different things and
01:51I'm excited to watch him grow very tall. Oh
01:54wingspan and
01:56you see I love the
01:58He's got the quote that he gave to Jax was my favorite where he says just throw it up
02:02There ain't gonna be no turnover
02:03I love that and then
02:05Tyler hero had said on the road trip that Kalel where goes to him before every game and he puts it in order like he's
02:11at the drive-thru
02:12Hmm, like let me get four labs. I
02:18Love that
02:21There no, it's like it what do you want to say?
02:28Get four labs
02:33There's a button on your hip no, I see the buttons right there
02:44You're talking about the coaches
02:52Goodness what you would be talking about
02:57Here's Eric spolster on where's performance does this thus far this season, you know, he's he's he's making some improvements
03:07You know the the 13 rebounds, you know for sure. I think he could have had a couple more
03:13Change some some shots under the rim, you know, we still want him to elevate and
03:19There's probably three or four more that he could have gotten to
03:23Then deflections and interior, you know past defense
03:28But he's he's making progress
03:31And it seems to be you know every day that that he's learning something new
03:36How about learning during the game?
03:39He is learning during the game
03:44Like
03:47That was very passive-aggressive I don't like you know, I don't I don't really know what you're saying, I'm just saying
03:54He the 13 rebounds that's improvement
03:59Probably could have had a couple of more. I'm like, I mean the last game he had there was a game he had zero
04:05So I would say 13 is a substantial increase. It wasn't right wasn't increase
04:10So you still say he could got more
04:13Vanessa P Petty says Tobin is really matured. The LeBron slander is at a minimum. I've grown
04:20You know what no, that's not why that's not what y'all y'all y'all missing it
04:28Okay
04:29Tobin is really shook by this Jimmy situation. And so he's not
04:34You know
04:36He can't really concentrate on the things that he would normally concentrate on because in the back of his mind
04:42Still wondering what the hell's gonna happen with Jimmy. I know what's gonna happen with Jimmy. What's gonna happen. He's not played on Friday
04:50He gonna have to recondition. He's not gonna play on Friday night. He's this is gonna be playing
04:54He's either gonna be brewing some coffee a big-face or he's gonna be playing dominoes somewhere after Mickey Harrison tells him to take a hike
04:59So we'll let you know when you're traded to Phoenix. So question
05:06How does that help anybody
05:08How does that help anybody
05:12This point it doesn't help it helps the locker room doesn't it like you don't have to worry no no no of
05:19the parties involved
05:21Right. We're not including the kids here
05:25Of the two parties involved in the heat organization and Jimmy
05:30How has any of this happened hat helped?
05:34Hat helped
05:37Anything that anybody wants to accomplish it has not right. So this has so but now
05:46Like
05:47we're making
05:49in order for somebody to trade for Jimmy they would have to make the same assumptions that you're making that you have made over the
05:54Last couple years except where you gonna turn it up. Yeah, but Phoenix is in a desperate spot, dude
05:59Like they have Kevin Durant who could walk on them next year
06:02They have a Bradley Beal contract, that's
06:06Awful, so they're just gonna give the Bradley Beal money to Jimmy Butler because it's a better fit
06:09No, I got you. I get I but we're making one assumption
06:14We're making a huge assumption here
06:18We are assuming
06:21That Jimmy's gonna be Jimmy wherever he goes. Oh 100% look that's been part of my my part of the reason
06:27I think that he's he's
06:29He has turned it down and turned the Jets down is because he got hurt twice this season and was like
06:36Not doing it anymore. I'm not like and I don't mean to
06:42Throw accusations out there. I'm just reading the room of what I seen right? Like I was you know, I'm
06:48Everything started everything everything started with the ankle twist. Yeah
06:53yeah, and it was the second one of the season he did it in both ankles and
06:59He's like am I really gonna go through a grind of an NBA season for a team that isn't gonna extend me
07:03I will I want to get extended and
07:06You know, I don't think that he was gonna he was gonna throw it out there like that like small things become big things
07:11So I'll ask you this
07:14Cuz otherwise like what else would have changed everything else all the stuff that we know pissed off at Riley
07:20I'm not saying he shouldn't be pissed off at Riley all the things that he could be upset about with the roster construction
07:25I think they're fair criticisms, but all the things that were
07:31Issues aren't new issues. So what like my biggest thing and I keep coming back to this all
07:38What made it go nuclear? What made it go to the point?
07:43Point to is like, you know what these guys aren't gonna pay me. I'm not gonna screw up the next team that's gonna pay me so
07:51It's
07:53Not a great like I get everybody's it you guys are right as you quit on the team. Absolutely. I'm not defending Jimmy Butler
07:59I'm trying to explain what the hell has happened and I don't because because that this is a level of murkiness
08:06Over this whole thing that nobody has come to
08:09Give me any decent explanation
08:11All I keep getting now are petty grenades from the heat to Jimmy to Jimmy to heat and they're all
08:17Well, this is what I don't like about you. And this is what I don't like about you
08:20And that's all fine. I everybody's got their points everybody. I you guys know where I stood
08:25I said I was stand on page Jimmy Butler what I've been fascinated by in this whole thing
08:31That nobody is giving me anything clear on is when Jimmy Butler
08:35got hurt against the Thunder after having one of his best regular season games with the heat after he's complaining about usage and then all
08:43the sudden he's sick and
08:45Then he's reconditioning
08:48Then is playing dominoes with his agent in the heat locker room on a night where the heat are taking on the
08:54Rockets where they probably were looking to piss off the heat because they thought they were gonna get waxed by Houston
08:58Which they did not and then Tyler here gets thrown into the hardwood and then he comes back to practice the next day
09:03He's like, yep. Good to go gonna give it everything I got and then doesn't give it everything you got. What the hell changed, right?
09:10That's what I know
09:11What changed his mentality or what changed behind the scenes because according to
09:15Reports essay from Chris Haynes is very plugged in remember when I got the stink eye from Jimmy, right?
09:20And I asked him I said hey, have you had conversations with Pat Riley according to Chris Haynes?
09:24They had not had conversations at that point as a face-to-face that they had not talked it out until the next day
09:32So my question is
09:38Again I'm not doing hey, I'm not doing this again
09:42So here here's the question I have
09:48If you're another team and you think Jimmy could help
09:55Why based on what you've seen the last two years be I think what they're probably just being
10:0660 million dollars for hope
10:09But if you're the but if you're paying 60 million dollars right now to the same guy
10:16Yeah, it makes sense for them because they're paying 60 million dollars to a guy with no hope they pain
10:20They're paying 60 million regardless. You might as well get somebody who can play my question is
10:26based on Jimmy's last couple of years
10:30and
10:32How he has really broken down getting into January February March and into the playoffs
10:40Even if he wanted out
10:43what team if money wasn't an issue would sign up for that and
10:48Hope that you turn it around without having anything even close
10:54to an idea of what Jimmy's gonna look like if you bring him in and
11:00Everybody's everybody's bringing him in with the hope that right now. I'm in a more amicable situation
11:08We assuming that we assuming that
11:12you know, I
11:14Don't know man. I just I'm just in a spot right now where I
11:19like
11:20Okay, I get Jimmy wants a trade, but he's done nothing
11:24That would garner people knocking down the door to get Jimmy Butler
11:29Yeah, but nothing's gonna change now either way, all right, we're at the right that's why I'm saying when you're meeting with the owner
11:35I just feel like that's all right. Here's what we're gonna do
11:38It's been nice because nothing's gonna change
11:41like nothing is gonna change and you can't you can't take word for it and you can't I don't really think you can put the
11:46coach or the players through it anymore and
11:49Is it is a is a bad spot
11:53But I'm always gonna believe this. I don't care
11:59How much you feel like the organization didn't take care of you
12:05What does that have to do with what they're paying you now, I
12:09100% agree with you Leroy. All right, and I think they were all
12:12It's a sting it it it stings
12:16Like I'm all about athletes getting as much money as they can. Mm-hmm. Okay
12:22But we're talking about two years from now and
12:26Not getting paid two years from now to the point where you're sabotaging what you're doing now on the court
12:33That seems a little extreme to me, right?
12:37And and that's one of those thing and look before if I'm saying that he's sick or you're saying that was an ankle twist
12:42Let's just say it was either at to that point. He had missed a third of the season, right?
12:46Or suspensions, right, right. So so so
12:51To the point where he just realized I'm not gonna play more games
12:56Yeah
12:57Yes, that's what I think happened. She even says what is Tobin's meeting with Mickey because this is all
13:04So mad at all of you and you guys
13:09This community would rally around me
13:11Oh, they want to do is yell at somebody and the only person who's talking four hours a day is me
13:18So you guys have been yelling at me non-stop you sped this up let's let let let's backtrack
13:24But let's let's let's let's
13:27Here's what I would like to say
13:30the reason why we're on you is
13:34That it
13:36seems that
13:37the two comments from both parties
13:41All came on questions that you asked that got things going. Okay, so
13:46so
13:48Understand if
13:50Everybody's looking at you as the fire starter
13:55all we have is
13:57your question to Pat
13:59your question to Jimmy their two answers and
14:04Then everybody run into the other party and say look what this guy said in this case
14:08You know, I was just watching this documentary on Netflix about the Jerry Springer show essentially. Oh my goodness. Is that crazy?
14:15It was crazy, but you're essentially saying I'm not I'm not at fault for the lunacy
14:20But I am Jerry Springer who's letting them throw haymakers at each other and I'm asking the questions. I'm giving them the platform
14:25That's what you're saying. Yeah, I'm Tobin. I'm Jerry Springer. Yep. Yep
14:29that's basically what you did and now it's to the point now if
14:34Jimmy walked on stage and Pat was on stage. They would confront each other
14:39I'm basically like if I was at a dinner party and this married couple invited me over and they were having
14:45Problems, but I that's uh, so how long yeah, so how much you guys doing in the week?
14:49And it was turned out to be zero
14:51That just
15:13The only difference between a spring roll and egg roll is no
15:17Yeah, but I can't even taste the vegetables which is why I love spring rolls
15:22You can say you have vegetables. I found out from that place Leroy. I think I like everything in egg roll farm
15:33Anything in an egg roll is delicious. He's a hundred percent right on that. Yeah
15:38He
15:45Cairns is the heater and more poop than that dollar store those dollar store bandits in Polk County
15:52Mr. Clean
15:56The biggest upset there that was like the aid it was like the 80s hockey team the 80 Olympics
16:03When I realized that they were black
16:07It's all the disappointment come over your face
16:13Like something Cletus and bullfrog would do he simpsons no Jersey retirement for Jimmy give 22 the next player
16:20We signed to attend a Oklahoma City Thunder do that with KD didn't they give 35 like to a nobody like the next year?
16:2922 is going to the Rafters dude. Like listen, it's all
16:33That's years away. But for right now we need to think about what's gonna happen
16:38Well on Friday, I will say though
16:41The Miami Heat I found out yesterday did not ruin Tommy Tobin's love for the Miami Heat
16:47Because he was watching a Disney show
16:49They're all on streaming now that Chris Bosh just randomly showed up on and I was like he goes who is that?
16:56Like that's Chris Bosh, dude
16:58He goes. Well, he goes does he have a statue?
17:01I
17:02Jersey's in the Rafters. He goes. Well, what did he play? So he played with Dwayne Wade and LeBron James?
17:06They were the big three. So I went to this whole thing. We watched game six yesterday
17:15Loved it. That's good. Big shot Bosh. That's good propaganda right there
17:21See that'll just be my thing, you know instead of current he can let's just watch
17:27Okay, they're they're still like
17:31500 team like they're they're gonna be one of those teams that never go on that
17:36Seven a game run even though they're not like like if you're a child watching this
17:42This is not a team that you watch and you like carry this to the rest of your like if you caught the Marlins with
17:47Dontrell and and that era good time you're saying this team doesn't have a guy that's gonna captivate
17:52It's just not a thing like even like back when the Miami Heat
17:56Had like Damon Jones and like they were winning fun games and Dwayne Wade came in you're like
18:02There's this young guy that I like you look at the heat now
18:04It's like maybe Tyler heroes cool enough to capture an audience
18:07Yeah
18:07but it's hard like it's gonna take it might take a lot of people a minute or so because keep in mind he was in
18:12Every trade package before this season started. Yeah, so like there's that like it's hard
18:19It's also, you know, maybe a lot of fans got into their mind that he wasn't even gonna be here
18:24So now we basically starting over with our love for Tyler hero
18:29I agree with that because I think I think before I would say probably before the summer of Dame
18:34I would say Tyler hero got louder pops in the arena
18:37Then even Jimmy on some nights not in the playoffs obviously because he didn't have the plow success, but people really love Tyler
18:43Mentioned in trade room, it's weird because
18:46We look back now at what Tyler was going through, right?
18:51And now look at where Jimmy is going through Tyler may have handled it better
18:57One mature
19:00Yeah, and to say that he's younger
19:03right and and probably it affected him a little bit more because
19:08It's something he's not, you know, sometimes looking at situations like this and I can tell you how I felt
19:15I've felt it as
19:18rejection not as
19:21a
19:22ploy to do this or this with your roster or
19:26This right and being just a casualty of that. No Tyler hero would have been a casualty of
19:33Dane
19:34Right. Yep, but I didn't look at it that way. I look at it. Oh, I'm not good enough to play on y'all team
19:42right, and and I think it
19:45It's weird that some guys look at it that way and some guys can accept that a lot sooner
19:52So I looked at it as as failure that the team that drafted me don't want me anymore
20:00Right, so it's a weird. It's a weird dynamic and I think Tyler as we look back on it and see where he is now
20:08He's getting into that prime
20:112627 area like it throughout the history of basketball. That's your prime. But for some reason he had to be in his prime three years ago
20:20But yeah, I like he not that I look back now that we look back he probably handled himself like really well with it