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00:00The opening scene of this episode is when he jumps out of the studio.
00:06I'm at Nara Park right now.
00:09The reason why I'm at Nara Park is because I played Tomoya Harada,
00:15the wife of Tomoya, in the 35th anniversary of Love Letter.
00:19This bench was used for that scene.
00:22Tomoya was sitting here.
00:25You ate 5 of the 8?
00:27I'm sorry.
00:29I'm sorry.
00:30Don't hate me.
00:32I'd rather die.
00:33I'm scared.
00:35It was a good scene.
00:39Mr. Tsurube.
00:40What are you doing?
00:44Was it here?
00:45It was used for that scene.
00:48It was a great scene, wasn't it?
00:50It was a great scene.
00:53More.
00:56It's okay. I can do it.
00:58I'm Tomoya Harada.
01:00I'm Tomoya Harada.
01:02I'm Tomoya Harada.
01:09This scene.
01:10The two of us.
01:11I ate a lot.
01:14Tomoya got angry.
01:18You ate 5 of the 8?
01:21How do you know?
01:22You usually eat 4 of them, right?
01:25Why did you eat 5 of them?
01:30You're mean.
01:32You're mean.
01:36You hate food.
01:37You're scary.
01:39I'll die and come out.
01:45I want you to show the atmosphere.
01:47What?
01:49Do it again.
01:51Okay.
01:52What was that?
01:57Mr. Tsurube.
01:59Hello.
02:01It was here.
02:02It was the love letter for the 35th anniversary.
02:05It was a great scene.
02:06I use this place a lot.
02:08Do you use it a lot?
02:09I've been here many times.
02:11There's a deer here.
02:13There's a deer here.
02:14You ate takoyaki here.
02:16Yes, I ate takoyaki.
02:18I ate takoyaki.
02:19Then, the deer came.
02:21Then?
02:23You know what I mean, right?
02:25What?
02:26What?
02:27I ate too much.
02:28What happened?
02:29You know what I mean, right?
02:33I can't do the first tone.
02:35Really?
02:36I'll do Tomoya's tone.
02:42The deer.
02:43Oh!
02:45There were eight of them.
02:47You ate five of them, right?
02:51You ate less for me.
02:55I'm afraid of the hatred of food.
02:57I'll die and leave.
03:01It's a creepy Osaka accent.
03:02Is this okay?
03:03Is this okay?
03:04It's the Osaka accent that most Kansai people hate.
03:07Really?
03:09I imitated it a little.
03:10But it was a good scene.
03:12I've seen it a few times.
03:14You've seen it a few times, right?
03:16When you were young.
03:17Oh, I shouldn't say that.
03:19You don't have to say that.
03:21You can tell by looking at the poster.
03:24There are times when I laugh, but I also cry.
03:27You cry?
03:28Yes.
03:32They came to Nara Park.
03:37Wait a minute.
03:38Don't bite me.
03:40Don't bite me.
03:43Don't laugh.
03:44I got it.
03:45Stay.
03:47Wait.
03:48No, no, no, no.
03:49This time, I invited a great senior of the Showa period,
03:52who played a very active role in the movie
03:55Love Letter, which is 35 years old.
04:04Am I a deer?
04:06Let's take a look.
04:10Today's guest is Takashi Sasano.
04:13Welcome.
04:15You two have met before, right?
04:17Yes.
04:18There is a Kanzaburo here.
04:20I went to see Kanzaburo after I left the country.
04:23That's where I got close to him.
04:25I've only met him in private.
04:27Yes.
04:28Is that so?
04:29This is my first time working with him.
04:31Is that so?
04:32I haven't been involved in the movie.
04:36I see.
04:37Is there a scene where you two appear together?
04:39Yes, there is.
04:40Let's take a look.
04:42I can't read and write.
04:44I can't even write my own name properly.
04:50A husband who can't read and write.
04:52Shall we read?
04:53A wife who supported him.
04:55My hands were numb today.
04:57My mother kept lying to me.
04:59Lying?
05:00Are you seeing her?
05:01I can't read and write.
05:03I just want to see her.
05:06I always felt sorry for lying to her.
05:09But I wanted to be with her forever.
05:13Can you teach me how to read and write?
05:16Can I join you?
05:17It's okay.
05:18I'll teach you from the beginning.
05:20I can't read and write.
05:21It's too late now, but I want to be able to read and write.
05:25I want to give back to my wife who worked hard for me.
05:30I'll write a love letter to my wife.
05:36I want to make a love song.
05:43I thought you were happy to marry me.
05:46Are you serious?
05:49Sorry, I can't do anything normal.
05:52I can't help it.
05:55From today, I'll be in your hands.
05:59I don't think it's enough.
06:02I'm looking forward to your love letter.
06:05Kyoko!
06:07I'll send you all my love.
06:13I'm happy.
06:15Thank you so much.
06:19The 35th Love Letter
06:23And today's guest, Takashi Sasano, who had an overwhelming presence in the work.
06:32I'll make you an omelet.
06:41Wait a minute.
06:44I'm Yamabiko, too.
06:47You speak Kansai dialect, don't you?
06:50Yes, I do.
06:51You're good at Kansai dialect, aren't you?
06:53I'm bilingual.
06:56I'm from Awajishima, so I can speak Kansai dialect.
07:00You're funny.
07:03You're the best.
07:05I'm Sasanobuchi.
07:06You're funny.
07:08Do it.
07:10Hey!
07:13He's a weirdo.
07:17He's a weirdo, isn't he?
07:19He's not your wife.
07:21Why are you doing this to me?
07:24You're funny.
07:26You're funny.
07:27You're brave.
07:29Do it.
07:32Are you going to be a movie star?
07:36However, Takashi Sasano, the movie actor, has a birthmark.
07:43Sasano, do you feel like you can appear in the film?
07:48Yes, I do.
07:49And he co-starred with Kiyoshi Atsumi.
07:52There are a lot of behind-the-scenes episodes of the film.
07:56Good, good.
07:57Wait a minute.
07:58I can't hear you.
07:59Good, good, good.
08:00Good, good, good.
08:02It's really like this.
08:04Hello, everyone.
08:05I'm Takashi Sasano, the movie actor.
08:07And he got a message from Shigeoka, the movie actor.
08:16Surume-chan and Sawako-chan.
08:18Showa-no-daisenpai and Okashina Futari.
08:25According to the documentary, Sasano-san was in charge of the retirement concert of Candies.
08:31Yes, I was.
08:33I was working part-time as a security guard.
08:38One day, I went to Korakuen.
08:43I asked what Candies was.
08:45They said it was a disbandment concert.
08:48I didn't know much about Candies.
08:51But sometimes I heard about it.
08:55You didn't know about Candies?
08:58At that time, I heard about it in the city.
09:03But I didn't dance with Candies on TV.
09:08The world of interest was different.
09:10I thought this was Candies.
09:13There was a stage behind me.
09:16There was an entrance.
09:18I went through it.
09:20You peeped in.
09:21Then I said,
09:22We will become ordinary people.
09:25I thought it was Candies.
09:28You were an old man.
09:30What did we say?
09:32I don't remember.
09:34We will become ordinary people.
09:37I was there with Dan-chan and Su-chan.
09:44I see.
09:47I was surprised.
09:49It's amazing.
09:51It's like a historical site.
09:54It's a place where we connect with each other.
09:58Let's go back to the story.
10:02Shizuko Kasagi's Tokyo Boogie Woogie was a hit.
10:06It was held at the London Olympics.
10:09It was in 1923.
10:14Mr. Sasano was born in Awaji City, Hyogo Prefecture.
10:22You were born in Awaji City.
10:26You are the youngest of four brothers.
10:29That's right.
10:30How old was your father?
10:32When I was three years old.
10:34Don't you remember your father?
10:36I don't remember.
10:37I don't have a father.
10:40Did your mother raise you?
10:42My mother and my brothers were all blood brothers.
10:47I have a picture of my mother.
10:49Is that so?
10:50I have a picture of my mother.
10:52Do you have a picture of your mother?
10:53I still have a picture of my mother.
10:56Is that so?
10:57My mother passed away when I was 11 years old.
11:02I feel sorry for her.
11:04I lost my parents when I was 11 years old.
11:06I feel sorry for her.
11:07Please give me something.
11:08I'll give you something.
11:10What are you giving me?
11:14What are these two?
11:17Your older brother was the oldest.
11:21He was the oldest.
11:23He was 20 years old.
11:25It must have been hard for him.
11:28He had three younger brothers.
11:31What happened to your brother?
11:33My brother took over the family business.
11:35What was your brother's family business?
11:37It was Tsugurizakaya.
11:39He was a famous landowner.
11:42It must have been hard for him to run a Tsugurizakaya.
11:45He ran a Tsugurizakaya in Awaji Island.
11:47He ran it since the Edo period.
11:51Did you get it from your relatives?
11:54Yes.
11:55Your brother ran the Tsugurizakaya.
11:58Does anyone still run it?
12:00No one runs it anymore.
12:03It went bankrupt.
12:05It was a big disaster.
12:08Many people lost their jobs.
12:12The Tsugurizakaya is in Shingen, right?
12:14Yes.
12:15It was a big disaster in Kobe.
12:17It's been 30 years.
12:19It's an old place.
12:21Do you have any financial problems?
12:24No, I don't.
12:26It's because I'm not his father.
12:29You're his older brother.
12:31I see.
12:32If I were his father,
12:34I'd ask him to buy me a pair of gloves.
12:37You'd ask him to buy you a pair of gloves?
12:39He's my older brother.
12:42When I was in junior high school,
12:44I played baseball.
12:46I wanted a pair of spikes or gloves.
12:49But they were all from my senior's parents.
12:53I'd ask him to buy me a pair of gloves.
12:57It's hard to say.
12:59In that sense,
13:01I couldn't spoil him.
13:04I see.
13:05That was a bit hard for me.
13:09I'm sure it was hard for you, too.
13:11But as the youngest,
13:13it must have been hard for you to spoil him.
13:16You think so, right?
13:18It was hard for me.
13:20It must have been hard for you.
13:22At that time,
13:24I thought it was normal.
13:26I didn't think it was hard.
13:28But when I thought about it later,
13:30I realized I couldn't spoil him.
13:32Was there no one like that?
13:34No.
13:35No neighbors or relatives?
13:37No.
13:39I met my mother in Tokyo.
13:41She loved movies.
13:43When I was a kid,
13:45she often took me to the movie theater.
13:47What did you see when you were a kid?
13:49A movie called DIA.
13:51DIA?
13:52It's a melodrama.
13:54There was no TV.
13:56Kazuo Hasegawa,
13:58Fujiko Yamamoto,
14:00Ayako Waka.
14:01You were in a love romance when you were a kid.
14:03I cried when I saw it.
14:05When I was in junior high school,
14:07I went to the movie theater
14:09with my mother.
14:11I went to see it.
14:13It was interesting.
14:15Without your parents?
14:17Yes, without my parents.
14:19How did you make money?
14:21I didn't have money.
14:23I borrowed money from my grandmother.
14:25That's terrible.
14:27You have a lot of wisdom.
14:29In my drawer,
14:31there are bowls and chopsticks.
14:33I know that my grandmother
14:35put a lot of money in it.
14:37I'm sorry.
14:39Don't laugh at me.
14:41I'm sorry, grandmother.
14:45Thanks to your grandmother,
14:47you have a lot of money now.
14:49When I went to the movie theater,
14:51I thought the movie was interesting.
14:53The people in the movie theater
14:55had a job as movie actors.
14:57I thought it would be interesting
14:59to be a movie actor.
15:01I had that much wisdom.
15:03When I looked in the mirror,
15:05I didn't look like a movie actor.
15:07I looked like a potato.
15:09I had a lot of pimples.
15:11I wasn't tall.
15:13The girls in the neighborhood
15:15didn't say anything.
15:17I didn't look like a movie actor.
15:19I thought it wasn't good.
15:21At that time,
15:23all the movie actors were
15:25sweet guys.
15:27Yes, yes.
15:29Behind the weekly magazine,
15:31there was a guy
15:33who looked like a movie actor.
15:35He was over 180 cm tall.
15:37He was under 25 years old.
15:39He was an old man.
15:41He was over 180 cm tall.
15:43There were no people like that around.
15:45But he was a good actor.
15:47Even now,
15:49he looks good.
15:51He is tall.
15:53I thought that was the condition
15:55of a movie actor.
15:57I was disappointed.
15:59I've been looking like an old man
16:01for a long time.
16:03Did you give up?
16:05I was going to give up,
16:07but I thought I could do something.
16:09I gathered a lot of information.
16:11Then,
16:13behind the magazine,
16:15there was a magazine called
16:17How to Become a Movie Actor.
16:19There was a magazine called
16:21How to Become a Movie Actor.
16:23There was a magazine called
16:25How to Become a Movie Actor.
16:27There was a magazine called
16:29How to Become a Movie Actor.
16:31This is what I'm looking for.
16:33I gathered information.
16:35I thought I would be ridiculed
16:37if other people saw it.
16:39I thought I would be ridiculed
16:41if other people saw it.
16:43I opened it.
16:45I read it.
16:47The cross section of the mouth
16:49and the position of the tongue
16:51are like this.
16:53It says to practice
16:55doing something for the people of the world.
16:57It says for the people of the world.
16:59It says to practice
17:01doing something for the people of the world.
17:07I was surprised
17:09by the shape of the mouth.
17:11I was surprised by the shape of the mouth.
17:13I couldn't believe
17:15I was deceived.
17:17I hid it
17:19so I wouldn't be seen.
17:21But one day,
17:23But I found 3 older guys.
17:28Come here Takashi.
17:30What is this?
17:33Why are you looking for it when I hid it?
17:39I hid it.
17:41It says he wants to be a movie star.
17:44Do you really want to be a movie star?
17:48You can't become a movie star with that face, you idiot.
17:52What are you thinking, you idiot?
17:54Think of something more decent, you idiot.
17:56What do you mean by decent?
17:58I'm Sakai.
18:00If I were Sakai, I'd be in Kobe or Osaka to help my family.
18:03I'd be at a convenience store.
18:05I'd be at a new place.
18:07I'd be in a new class.
18:09That's what you're thinking, you idiot.
18:11What do you want, you idiot?
18:13You're the best.
18:15I'm not good with words, but I'm an idiot.
18:19So I thought if I said I'd never become a movie star again,
18:25people would make fun of me.
18:27So I didn't say it.
18:29But I thought I'd manage to go to Tokyo.
18:31But you didn't give up.
18:33You were called an idiot.
18:35I was called an idiot in the university.
18:38I was called a movie idiot.
18:40Even at Hiroshi Nihon University,
18:42I was called an idiot.
18:44I was called an idiot in the acting department.
18:46I was called an idiot in the acting department.
18:49I was called an idiot in the acting department.
18:54It's finally Sasano's turn.
18:56He's going to Tokyo to become a movie star.
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