Trump, Musk pull curtain back behind relationship, media's divide and conquer mission

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President Donald Trump and Elon Musk discuss DOGE, the media's attempts to divide them, encounters with 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' and more in 'Hannity' exclusive interview.  Subscribe to Fox News! https://bit.ly/2vBUvAS Watch more Fox News Video: http://video.foxnews.com Watch Fox News Channel Live: http://www.foxnewsgo.com/  FOX News Channel (FNC) is a 24-hour all-encompassing news service delivering breaking news as well as political and business news. The number one network in cable, FNC has been the most-watched television news channel for 18 consecutive years. According to a 2020 Brand Keys Consumer Loyalty Engagement Index report, FOX News is the top brand in the country for morning and evening news coverage. A 2019 Suffolk University poll named FOX News as the most trusted source for television news or commentary, while a 2019 Brand Keys Emotion Engagement Analysis survey found that FOX News was the most trusted cable news brand. A 2017 Gallup/Knight Foundation survey also found that among Americans who could name an objective news source, FOX News was the top-cited outlet. Owned by FOX Corporation, FNC is available in nearly 90 million homes and dominates the cable news landscape, routinely notching the top ten programs in the genre.   Watch full episodes of your favorite shows The Five: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/the-five Special Report with Bret Baier: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/special-report Jesse Watters Primetime: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/jesse-watters-primetime Hannity: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/hannity The Ingraham Angle: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/ingraham-angle Gutfeld!: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/gutfeld Fox News @ Night: https://www.foxnews.com/video/shows/fox-news-night  Follow Fox News on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/ Follow Fox News on Twitter: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/ Follow Fox News on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foxnews/

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00:00I've got to start with this, so he's working for free with Doge, he's kind of put a lot

00:07of his life on hold, and you sued Twitter a number of years ago, you just made him pay

00:13you $10 million?

00:14That's right.

00:15That's right.

00:16Well, I sued from long before he had it, and I mean, they really did a number on me, you

00:23know, and I sued and they had to pay, they paid a $10 million settlement.

00:28You're okay with that?

00:30I mean, I left it up to the lawyers and, you know, the team running Twitter, so I said,

00:34do you guys do what you think is the right, it makes sense.

00:36I think it's fine.

00:37I think it's a very low, I was looking to get much more money than that.

00:41So you gave him a discount when the lawsuit-

00:43He got a discount, oh, he got a big discount.

00:45I don't think he even knows about it.

00:47He's become one of your, if you really believe the media, he's become one of your best friends,

00:52he's working for free for you.

00:53Well, I love the president, I just want to be clear about that.

00:56I don't care about that.

00:57I know, I love the president.

00:58You love the president.

01:00I think, I think President Trump is a good man and he's, you know, I've spent-

01:04That's nice the way he said that, you know, that's something nice about him.

01:07It really is.

01:08It is.

01:09You know, because, I mean, the president's been so unfairly attacked in the media, it's

01:15truly outrageous.

01:17And I've spent, at this point, spent a lot of time with the president and not once have

01:22I seen him do something that was mean or cruel or wrong.

01:26Not once.

01:28Not once.

01:29You know, I've known him for 30 years and I've never seen anybody take as much as he's

01:35taken.

01:36Yeah.

01:37And we've discussed this and I'm like, how do you deal with it?

01:39Did I have a choice?

01:40Well, you would say that to me, I'm like, what am I going to do, worry about it?

01:44And, you know, and then culminating in two assassination attempts, which resulted in

01:48your endorsement.

01:49Well, I was going to do it anyway, but that was a precipitating event, yes.

01:53That's been a little bit, yeah.

01:55The day of the assassination.

01:56I didn't know that.

01:57I just, I sped it up, but I was going to do it anyway.

02:01Mr. President, with your indulgence, I'm convinced that people only know a little bit about Elon.

02:08I don't think they know everything about Elon, because as I studied for and prepared for

02:13this interview, I learned a lot about you that I didn't know.

02:16I think people will think about Tesla, Democrats are demonizing you and trying to make the

02:22country hate you.

02:23I just want people to understand you a little bit better and the person that you've gotten

02:27to know and have now put a lot of trust in.

02:29And, you know, just let's go over a little bit of your bio, starting with PayPal and

02:36how you became involved in Tesla and SpaceX and Neuralink and all these.

02:42I mean, you know, I think the way you think of me is like I'm a technologist and I try

02:48to make technologies that improve the world and make life better.

02:51You can show your shirt.

02:52And that's why I like my t-shirt says tech support, because I'm here to provide the

02:56president with technology support.

02:59And now that may seem like, well, is that a silly thing?

03:02But actually, it's a very important thing, because the president will make these executive

03:07orders, which are very sensible and good for the country, but then they don't get implemented,

03:12you know.

03:13So if you take, for example, all the funding for the migrant hotels, the president issued

03:18an executive order where, hey, we need to stop taking taxpayer money and paying for

03:23luxury hotels for illegal immigrants, which makes no sense, because obviously people do

03:27not want their tax dollars going to fund high-end hotels for illegals.

03:34And yet they were still doing that, even as late as last week.

03:37And so, you know, we went in there and we're like, this is a violation of the presidential

03:41executive order.

03:42It needs to stop.

03:44So what we're doing here is one of the biggest functions of the DOJ's team is just making

03:51sure that the presidential executive orders are actually carried out.

03:55And this is, I just want to point out, this is a very important thing, because the president

03:59is the elected representative of the people, so he's representing the will of the people.

04:05And if the bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people and preventing the president

04:10from implementing what the people want, then what we live in is a bureaucracy and not a

04:15democracy.

04:18You're both aware, you have to be keenly aware, that the media and the punditry class, you

04:26know, I think you've proven they have no power anymore, because they threw everything they

04:31had at you and they didn't win.

04:33And that was, you know, the New York Times, Washington Post, three networks, every late

04:38night comedy show, two cable channels.

04:41They threw everything, warfare, weaponization.

04:43Sure.

04:45And now I see they want you two to start, they want a divorce.

04:50They want you two to start hating each other and they try, oh, President Elon Musk, for

04:55example. You do know that they're doing that to you.

04:58Oh, I see it all the time.

04:59They tried it, then they stopped.

05:01That was, they have many different things of hatred.

05:04Actually, Elon called me.

05:07He said, you know, they're trying to drive us apart.

05:09I said, absolutely.

05:10They said, we have breaking news.

05:12Donald Trump has ceded control of the presidency to Elon Musk.

05:17President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting at eight o'clock.

05:21And I say, it's just so obvious.

05:24They're so bad at it.

05:25I used to think they were good at it.

05:26They're actually bad at it, because if they were good at it, I'd never be president, because

05:31I think nobody in history has ever gotten more bad publicity than me.

05:35I could do the greatest things.

05:37I get 98 percent bad publicity.

05:39I could do outside of you and a few of your very good friends.

05:43It's like the craziest thing.

05:45But you know what I have learned, Elon?

05:47The people are smart.

05:47They get it. Yeah, they do.

05:49They get it. They really see what's happening.

05:52Yes. And at the end of this interview, what I would like is I want people to know the

06:00relationship and know more about you.

06:02What is the relationship, Mr.

06:04President? Well, I respect him.

06:05I've always respected him.

06:07I never knew that he was right on certain things.

06:12And I'm usually pretty good at this stuff.

06:14He did Starlink.

06:17He did things that were so advanced and nobody knew what the hell they were.

06:21I can tell you in North Carolina, they had no communication.

06:24They were wiped out.

06:25Those people were you know, they had rivers in between land that never saw water.

06:29All of a sudden it was a river and a vicious like rapids.

06:33People were dying all over.

06:34They had no communication.

06:35They said, you know, Elon Musk, they didn't really know.

06:38I know him. I said, yeah.

06:40He said, could you get Starlink?

06:42It's like the first time I ever heard of it.

06:43I said, what's Starlink?

06:44A communication system that's unbelievable.

06:47I have it. Yeah.

06:49And he said I called him and I said, listen, they really need it.

06:52And he got like thousands of units of this communication and it saved a lot of lives.

07:00He got it immediately.

07:01And you can't get it. I mean, you have to wait a long time to get it.

07:04But he got it to him immediately.

07:06And I said, that's pretty amazing.

07:07And I didn't even know he had it.

07:09We watched the rocket ship.

07:10So we watch Tesla.

07:12I think, you know, something that had an effect on me was when I saw the rocket ship

07:15come back and get grabbed like you grab a beautiful little baby.

07:19You grab your baby.

07:21It just hugged the rocket.

07:22I've never seen it right.

07:23Everyone needs a hug including rockets.

07:26No, but and he said, you know, you can't have a rocket program

07:29if you're going to dump a billion dollars into the ocean every time you fly.

07:32You have to save it.

07:34And he saved the first time that I've ever seen that done.

07:37Now, nobody else can do it.

07:39If you look at the U.S., Russia or China, they can't do it

07:42and they won't be able to do it for a long time.

07:44He has the technology.

07:45So you learn.

07:48I wanted somebody really smart

07:51to work with me in terms of the country, a very important aspect,

07:55because I mean, he doesn't talk about he's actually a very good businessman.

07:58And when he talks about the executive orders,

08:01and this is probably true for all presidents,

08:03you write an executive order and you think it's done, you send it out.

08:06It doesn't get done. It doesn't get implemented.

08:08They don't implement it.

08:09They may be there from the last administration.

08:12And they are in some cases you try and get them out as fast as you can.

08:16But I could as soon as he said that, I said, you know, that's interesting.

08:21You write a beautiful executive and you sign it

08:24and you assume it's going to be done, but it's not.

08:26What he does is he takes it.

08:27And with his hundred geniuses, he's got some very brilliant

08:30young people working for him that dress much worse than him.

08:34Actually, they dress in just T-shirts.

08:36You wouldn't know they have one hundred and eighty.

08:39So he's he's your tech support.

08:41No, no, he is.

08:42But he's much more than that.

08:44Yeah, I'm tech support, though.

08:45But he gets it done. He's a leader.

08:46Yeah, he really is. He gets it done.

08:48You get a lot of tech people and you have people that are good with tech.

08:50But he gets it done.

08:52You know, I said in real estate, you had guys that would draw

08:54beautiful renderings of a building and they'd draw the rendering.

08:57It would be great.

08:57And you say, great, what are you starting?

09:00But they were never able to get it built.

09:01They couldn't get the financing.

09:02They couldn't get the approvals.

09:04It would never get done.

09:05And then you have other guys are able to get it done.

09:07You know, they could just get it done.

09:09I was in real estate.

09:11Same thing in this. He gets it done.

09:13So when he said that, he said, you know, when you sign

09:15these executive orders, a lot of them don't get done.

09:17And maybe the most important ones.

09:19And he would take that executive order that I'd sign

09:22and he would have those people go to whatever agency it was.

09:26When are you doing it?

09:27Get it done. Get it done.

09:29And some guy that maybe didn't want to do it.

09:31All of a sudden, he's signing.

09:33He just doesn't want to be bothered.

09:35Do a lot of those executive orders have to be codified into law?

09:38Do you need the Republican Congress to follow up?

09:41A lot of them will be.

09:42Look, in the meantime, we have four years.

09:44The beauty is we have four years.

09:46That's why I like doing it right at the beginning,

09:48because an executive order is great.

09:50I mean, the one problem is both good and bad,

09:52because when they did all these executive orders,

09:55I've cancelled most of them. They were terrible.

09:57I mean, we're going to go radical left communists.

09:59OK, it was crazy there.

10:01Executive orders were so bad.

10:03If they ever got them codified, you'd never be able to break them.

10:06So the damage that Biden has done to this country,

10:10and it's not even Biden.

10:11It's the people that circled him in the Oval Office.

10:13OK, but the damage they did to this country

10:17in terms of, let's say, open borders, you know, there's so many things,

10:20but open borders where millions of people poured into our country

10:24and hundreds of thousands of those people are criminals.

10:28They're murderers. They're drug dealers.

10:30They're gang members.

10:31They're people from prisons from all over the world.

10:34And we have a great guy, Tom Holman.

10:36And he is doing so incredibly.

10:39You saw the numbers.

10:40They're down like 96 percent, 95 percent.

10:42He is a phenomenal guy.

10:44And Kristi Noem is doing an unbelievable job.

10:47And he wanted her.

10:49He said she's so tough.

10:50And I said, I don't think of her as that way.

10:52You know, she's very nice.

10:53He said, no, she's so tough.

10:55And she is, I see, with the horses.

10:57He's riding the horse. Let's go.

10:58She's great.

10:59But the team we have is is really unbelievable.

11:02But those executive orders, I sign them

11:06and now they get passed on to him and his group and other people.

11:10And they're all getting done.

11:11We're getting them done.

11:12Let me let me go back a little bit to your background, because it's

11:16sure it's beyond impressive.

11:17You were the chief engineer, for example.

11:19You were an early believer in Tesla.

11:22You became the CEO

11:24and and then the chief engineer, which was phenomenal.

11:28SpaceX, same thing, which is unbelievable.

11:32I mean, you were the first company, private company

11:35to send astronauts successfully into into space.

11:40First private company to send astronauts into orbit.

11:43Yeah, that's that's pretty deep.

11:44He's going to go into orbit soon.

11:46OK, yeah. No, he's going to go to Mars.

11:48He's darling. At some point.

11:50Yeah, he's in over there.

11:51I was asking, like, do you want to die on Mars?

11:52And I say, well, yes, but not on impact.

11:55Starlink is in 100 countries.

11:58This is going to be hard.

11:58I feel like I'm interviewing two brothers here.

12:01You go ahead.

12:03Starshield, which could be used for national defense.

12:05Yeah, it is already being used for national defense.

12:08Then you have a what is it called?

12:11Optimus, a part of Tesla robot.

12:13Yeah. Robotic arm.

12:15Then you have an A.I. arm.

12:17And then you have something that really fascinated me,

12:21and it's called Neuralink. Yes.

12:23You might help the blind to see the people with spinal cord

12:27injuries that they that they can recover where in the past.

12:33How close is that becoming a success?

12:36Neuralink, we've had we've implanted Neuralink in three patients so far

12:40who are quadriplegics and allows them to directly control

12:44their phone and computer just using their mind just by thinking.

12:47It's like so we call this product telepathy.

12:49So you control your computer and phone just by thinking.

12:52And it's possible to actually control the computer

12:54and phone faster than someone who has working hands.

12:57Then the next step would be to add a second Neuralink implant

13:02past the point where these the neurons damaged so that somebody can walk again

13:06and so they can have full body functionality restored.

13:11And so you like Bobby, right?

13:14I like Bobby, actually. Yeah.

13:15I think I supported Bobby Kennedy.

13:19I think he you know, he's unfairly blind as someone who is anti science.

13:23But I think he he isn't.

13:25He just wants to question the science, which is the essence of the science.

13:29The scientific method fundamentally is about always questioning the science.

13:32Well, they didn't tell us the truth about covid.

13:34Correct. That's for sure. Yes.

13:35And we learned a lot with the Twitter files.

13:38And that just then raises a question.

13:40You're the richest man in the world.

13:42You may not like that part.

13:44You're pretty competitive here and over there.

13:46I've known you a long time, but that's why.

13:48But he's on your team.

13:50Well, that's true. He can't help that.

13:52You know, I wanted to find somebody smarter than him.

13:55I searched all over.

13:57I just couldn't do it.

13:58I couldn't. I could really try it harder.

14:01I couldn't find anyone smarter. Right.

14:02So we had it. We had it for the country.

14:05But this is the thing settled and we settled on this.

14:08Well, thanks for having me.

14:09So I'm just trying to be useful here.

14:11This is the interesting.

14:12This is where we are as a society.

14:14And I, I, I hate to do this to you, but I'm going to do it anyway.

14:18You're doing all of these things.

14:20You're those nobody at those gets paid a penny, correct?

14:24Well, actually, some people are federal employees.

14:26So, OK, yeah, they're helping.

14:27But it's fair to say that the the software engineers at Doge

14:31could be earning millions of dollars a year instead of earning

14:34a small fraction of that as federal employees.

14:37OK, so just they're very committed people.

14:40So, yes, you're you're committed to helping the blind

14:43see people with spinal cord injuries recover.

14:46Yes. You're committed to getting to Mars.

14:48You're committed to rescue.

14:50You're going to help rescue next month two astronauts

14:53that I think were abandoned.

14:55They they dispute that in an interview.

14:57When are you going to get the president's request or instruction?

15:01We are accelerating the return of the astronauts,

15:04which was postponed kind of to a ridiculous degree.

15:07They got left in space.

15:09They've been there.

15:10They were supposed to be there eight days.

15:11They're there almost 300.

15:12Biden. They were put.

15:14Yes, they were left up there for political reasons, which is not good.

15:17OK, it's not good.

15:19Now, if I had the weight of the pressure

15:23of doing that successfully on my shoulders, I think I'd be, you know.

15:27But you you're one that we spoke before we did this interview.

15:31You are very confident.

15:32You think this will be a successful mission?

15:34Well, we don't want to be complacent, but we have brought astronauts back

15:37from the space station many times before and always with success.

15:41So as long as we're not complacent.

15:44When are they when are you going to launch?

15:47I think it's about about four weeks to bring them back.

15:50About four weeks. Yeah.

15:51And we're being extremely cautious.

15:54You now have the go ahead. Yes.

15:55Well, thanks to you.

15:56They didn't have the go ahead with Biden.

15:58What's he was going to leave him in space?

16:00I think he was going to leave him in space.

16:02Well, it's like we were growing up lost in space.

16:04He didn't want the publicity.

16:06Can you believe it?

16:07Unbelievable.

16:09And so, yeah, I want to echo something that the president said

16:12and then ask an overarching question.

16:15So people get hit with Hurricane Helene.

16:18They have no communication with the outside world.

16:21You come to the rescue.

16:22You donated that.

16:23I believe. Yeah.

16:24You donated to the people.

16:25He saved a lot of lives in North Carolina.

16:28He saved a lot of lives.

16:29And California after the wildfires.

16:31But I mean, in North Carolina, where they were really in trouble,

16:34they had no communication.

16:35People were dying.

16:36They were dying of starvation.

16:38He saved a lot of lives in North Carolina.

16:41OK, now you're going to rescue astronauts.

16:43And now and again, you do you do all of this.

16:50I would think liberals would love the fact that you have the biggest

16:53electric vehicle company in the world.

16:56Yeah. I mean, I used to be adored by the left, you know, not any less.

16:59So these days, I mean, I really did.

17:03I mean, it's this whole sort of like, you know,

17:06it's they call it like Trump derangement syndrome.

17:08And I don't you know, you don't realize how real this is until like it's

17:12you can't reason with people.

17:14So like I was at a friend's birthday party in LA, just a birthday dinner.

17:18And it was like a nice, quiet dinner.

17:19And everything was everyone was behaving normally.

17:21And I have to mention this is before the election, like a month or two before.

17:24I have to mention the president's name.

17:26And it was like they got shot with a dart in the jugular

17:29that contained like methamphetamine and rabies. OK.

17:32And that's why I'm like, what is wrong with guys?

17:36Like you can't have like a normal conversation.

17:38Yeah. And it's like it's it's like they become completely irrational.

17:42He has no idea if you're friends with him.

17:44Yeah. You pay a price.

17:46You know, it's like I walk in a restaurant in New York

17:48and it's like half the room gets daggers and they want to.

17:51No, the eye daggers eye daggers level is insane.

17:57I mean, there was like I'd like some some invitation

18:00because so I got invited to like basically a big sort of damn damn event

18:06like that was but it received the invitation like the beginning of last year.

18:10And then and I still attended even after I'd endorsed President Trump.

18:15And I didn't realize how profoundly that would affect

18:20you know, how I was received.

18:24I mean, I walk into the room and I'm getting just the dirty looks from everyone.

18:29Like if looks could kill, I would have been dead several times over.

18:32But that was not before.

18:34It could be like ashes on the floor before Trump.

18:37That never happened, right? No.

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