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Katherine Kearsey, the Chairwoman at Gulf for Good, joins Maria Botros on the Tell Me Why podcast to talk about their Gift of Giving initiative throughout the month of Ramadan.

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Katherine: We’ve worked with the foundation for a couple of years now and hoping to visit them next year

The way it works is people can purchase a gift from our Gift of Giving initiative and that money is your donation, says Katherine

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00:00Golf for Good is a local not-for-profit organization in the UAE. It's also a UK
00:05registered charity. We've been operating here since 2001
00:08and we're one of the oldest charities within the UAE. We
00:12operated here before even the governing bodies were in place.
00:16Our bread and butter, what we kind of do on a day-to-day basis, is we take people
00:21from typically the UAE but actually around the world as well
00:25to developing nations and we do an amazing challenge in that
00:31destination whilst raising money for a charity
00:35project in that destination too. So for example,
00:39we would take a group to climb Kilimanjaro and we would raise money for
00:42an orphanage in Tanzania.
00:50This is a new episode of Tell Me Why which is a Golf News original podcast.
00:55Joining me in the studio is Kat Kersey who is the chairwoman
00:59of Golf for Good. Kat, how are you? I'm well, thank you Maria. How are you?
01:03Good, good. How's everything? How is the weather like? How are you
01:08feeling today? Like what are you up to during the week? Has it been busy?
01:12It's been crazy as always. I work full-time as well as being the chair of
01:16Golf for Good so I think every day is a busy day
01:21but it's been great. I mean the weather to me is just amazing right now. I don't
01:24want it to end. I know that, you know, embrace it while
01:28it's here because it'll be gone in not too many more days
01:32from now. But yeah, all good. Absolutely, absolutely.
01:36Okay, Kat, I'm really interested, before we
01:38dive into the topic and before we talk about like all the details that we
01:42discussed before the show, I want to know more about you. So
01:45when did you come to Dubai or the UAE if you moved around
01:49in the country and how did you get here?
01:53How did your journey start? So I am originally from the UK. I lived
01:59my life there. I went to university in Nottingham
02:02and worked in Nottingham for a year after I graduated.
02:07And when I was at my job I met a girl. We just clicked and
02:13got on like a house on fire. Both of us wanted to travel but neither
02:17of us had any money. So we started looking into destinations
02:21that we could potentially move to and
02:24literally got a map out and kind of closed our eyes, spun around,
02:28took a figure out and it was kind of the Middle East. And then we were like, oh,
02:31started researching. Dubai seemed actually feasible. We started
02:35doing a little bit of research but not a lot because three weeks later we
02:38moved with nothing. So no job, no
02:42contacts really, just a little tiny bit of money
02:47and some hope. And actually three of us moved in the end. So
02:51her, my friend Caroline, myself and another girl called Nicola.
02:56And three of us moved over when we were 22 roughly, 22 years old.
03:00So it's back in 2005. Got off the plane and
03:05hired a car, drove almost accidentally to Abu Dhabi because I couldn't figure out
03:09how to navigate turning around on Shakeside
03:12Road. And that was the beginning of our
03:16journey. So I just, I mean, yeah, I lived in Dubai since
03:192005. It's given me everything. I met my husband here. I had my
03:24children here. I have had a wonderful career at
03:30many amazing brands. I worked for Emirates Airline, then Jumeirah Group and
03:33now I work for Marriott International by day. Okay. And then by night.
03:38I share golf for good, yeah. So yeah, that's kind of my history and
03:43I love it here. It's home. I think I've gone through
03:47that kind of journey of wondering, do I need to go home? Do I need to be closer
03:50to my parents as they're getting older? And that's really hard. I think for a lot
03:56of expats here, that pull home is strong and it's
04:01stronger with the children who are missing their cousins and uncles and
04:04aunts and grandparents. But the lifestyle here, the quality of
04:09living, the fact that you get to live as well as work and I can, I have the
04:13ability to volunteer and work and have some
04:17play time to myself. I just think that
04:21that is something that you get more here than I think back home.
04:25I agree 100%. We were having this conversation before we
04:29started recording. You know, it was always
04:32Dubai for us. We may have moved for a short while and then it was always
04:37coming back to Dubai. This was home. This was our base,
04:40even though we are expats, as you said. But yeah, it just gets you thinking
04:45to what home means to you and what it is
04:47actually. I don't know about you but what I've seen is the number of people
04:50who have gone home and then come back here because it actually has been such a
04:55hard kind of retrenchment and they've missed
04:58their life here so much that they've ended up reversing that decision and I
05:02think that that is what would happen with us.
05:04Yes. So I'm just not gonna do that. Yeah, so we're not gonna try. We're just not
05:07gonna try. Got it, okay. So you mentioned that by day
05:11you have a job and by night you are the chair of
05:16Golf For Good. So tell us a bit more about that.
05:19I hadn't heard of it, to be very honest with you,
05:23until I spoke to you and I spoke to your team.
05:27So what is it about? What do you actually do in Golf For Good?
05:30Yeah, so I'll tell you the story of what we do and then I'll tell you how I
05:34ended up in Golf For Good, I think. So firstly Golf For Good is a local
05:39not-for-profit organisation in the UAE. It's also a UK registered charity.
05:44We've been operating here since 2001 and we're one of the oldest
05:48charities within the UAE. We operated here before even the governing bodies
05:52were in place. Our bread and butter, what we kind of
05:56do on a day-to-day basis, is we take people
05:58from typically the UAE but actually around the world as well
06:03to developing nations and we do an amazing challenge in that
06:09destination whilst raising money for a charity
06:12project in that destination too. So for example we would take a
06:17group to climb Kilimanjaro and we would raise money for an orphanage
06:21in Tanzania or a school in Tanzania.
06:25Last year I went to Machu Picchu and did the Inca Trail and we raised money for
06:30a girls school in Cusco with Everest Base Camp and we're raising
06:34money for either a school or a children's home in
06:40Kathmandu. So that's the premise of what we do
06:44and we normally run about four international challenges a year.
06:49This year we're being a little bit more ambitious and trying to run seven or
06:52eight, we'll see. So that's kind of
06:56our bread and butter as I said
06:59and then on top of that we do a number of different activities to help
07:03gear people up for those challenges. So we organise local training here
07:07for people who have signed up for challenges. So stair climbs
07:10in the tallest buildings in Dubai, we hike
07:14at Ski Dubai at the weekends up the slope
07:17to get people familiar with what it's like to climb in the cold.
07:22Yeah the climate. Yeah they can test their gear.
07:26We hike in the mountains so we'll take groups
07:29to Raqqa or Fujairah just tracking getting them
07:33their fitness ready because a lot of the challenges we do are physically
07:37you know physically enduring so we try to get people prepared by doing that
07:42and then we work with corporates so
07:46corporates will approach us and we'll do team building hikes
07:49or training sessions whatever it was we can offer kind of bespoke
07:52solutions to them and in return they'll sponsor us or
07:56donate to one of our charities that we're raising money for.
07:59So every year we kind of identify around four to eight charities that we
08:04partner with and we'll drive all of the fundraising
08:07that we do through the year to those causes
08:10and they're always in developing nations. Okay
08:13I was just going to say like what if someone doesn't want to do a challenge
08:16can they still donate or can they still volunteer like how does it work?
08:20Yeah so it's a great question we have so firstly we have our social
08:26enterprise Thrift for Good that was born out of one of my favourite people in
08:30the world Jennifer Salt. So Jen used to work
08:33for Golf for Good and she came up with the idea to launch
08:36a charity shop in the UAE initially online then it became a
08:39physical store so through Thrift we have a huge number
08:44of volunteering opportunities because there's all sorts to do in the stores
08:47whether it's steaming clothes or working at the tills or sorting items.
08:53We can also volunteer for Golf for Good so we've launched a volunteer program
08:56this year with we're trying to kind of like
08:59marry your skill set with what we need so we have
09:02people who are supporting on PR and communications
09:06introducing us to different media companies or writing or managing social
09:09media. We have people who've got
09:12experience in the travel sector who are helping us organise our challenges
09:16and just kind of playing a little bit more of a consulting role on the ground
09:19to help us get the best deals for our challenges who come on those.
09:23So that's kind of how we work. I would say our volunteer
09:26program's a little bit smaller than the Thrift. Thrift's got a lot you know
09:30there's volume accessible there because there's so
09:32much work to be done and it's physical. We also have volunteering reps
09:37though and volunteering guides so for our hikes we have qualified guides
09:42that work with us that volunteer for us. We have reps who've done our
09:46challenges that will rep a hike and they'll talk to people who are on
09:49that hike about the challenges and let them know what it feels like to do a
09:53Golf for Good challenge and talk about what we've got coming up
09:56so that they you know might sign up for one of them.
09:59So yeah there's loads of opportunities to get involved and we're actually trying
10:02to formalise that a little bit more because it's you know there's so many
10:06people who want to give back here and we want to be able to help them.
10:09People contact us all the time so it's just about navigating through
10:13that because obviously we're a tiny team but very busy
10:16so we do get requests and we try to get back to everybody as quickly
10:21as we can. Yeah absolutely I was just going to say a lot of people might have
10:25the you know they want to take the
10:27initiative but they just don't know how or like which stream to go through and I
10:31think that's crucial that you facilitate some of that as
10:34well. I just have a question so do you
10:39do stuff with schools as well like do you also
10:43spread the word through schools? Do you have like school activations or
10:47awareness campaigns? We do but it's something we're actually developing
10:52right now so we we have links in schools because a
10:55number of people especially board directors have children in schools
10:59in the UAE so we leverage our contacts there
11:02to spread the word. We're actually running three family-friendly challenges
11:07this year so nice in 2021
11:11I know 22 sorry I went to Malawi with my daughter and at the time she was
11:16the youngest challenger that we've ever had
11:18so we volunteered a charity called Sparkle that's also very well
11:23also got presence here in the UAE but Sarah who founded that
11:27is basically an amazing amazing school
11:31in Malawi that helps the children on the ground there that
11:34have very little so Rosalie and I went down there
11:37and volunteered and the interest that we got off the back of
11:42us coming back from that experience was phenomenal so this year we have taken
11:48the decision to launch three that you could bring your children
11:51to and we will be driving actually communications across schools
11:55over the next month or so. So we're running Ethiopia which runs on
11:59the 31st of March so we're taking a group of people
12:04to Ray Foundation which is an incredible charity
12:07just in out on the outskirts of Addis Ababa
12:10so and actually my my daughter's record is going to be gesumped
12:14by our one of our board directors Natalie who's amazing
12:18she's bringing her twin boys who are five years old
12:22and they will then become our youngest ever challengers so
12:25so that is open to families and there's single mums coming or other
12:31parents with their people are coming as a family or they're coming
12:34on their own with one child perhaps so it's completely
12:38flexible we can cater to people and then we
12:42have an Indonesia challenge running over Eid
12:44in June 14th to 19th so the second Eid and that is to
12:52somewhere called Acacia Camp which is in West Java
12:56and so it's kind of more it's not really a physical challenge as such it's more
13:01working with the local community helping out wherever experiencing local
13:06life and building awareness and providing funds to the people on the
13:10ground there so also very family-friendly because
13:13everything is going to be tented and in an enclosed safe space
13:18and then the third challenge we have that's family-friendly this year is to
13:21Uganda so we'll be flying in to Rwanda
13:24actually and then driving to Uganda to a village called Kisoro
13:28which is on the far far west side and there we've partnered with this
13:34charity for many years so we've been helping them develop the
13:37school on the ground there and we'll be working with them working
13:41with the children playing games helping I don't know working
13:45with the teachers seeing how we can just basically all hands on deck what we
13:49can do and then there'll be an option for people to do the
13:52guerrilla track which is just nearby nice
13:57yeah into the national park so that would be amazing I'm actually
14:00I'm taking my whole family and we're going to do that one I was just going to
14:03say you have to try that I was funny enough so I was I just attended
14:07Kevin Hart's show oh I'm so sad I missed it was it good
14:11he did mention the guerrilla trip no way he went to Rwanda
14:14recently and he was saying that he did it obviously
14:17he had a funny story to tell but yes but I remembered as you were
14:22saying I was like I heard that before so yeah
14:25but he did say that it was it was an amazing experience it's once in a
14:28lifetime it looks it it looks it's obviously it's optional because it's
14:32it's expensive yes it does sound a little bit once in a lifetime
14:36yeah unfortunately you can't take the the children to that because there's I
14:40think there's an age age restriction of 16 years old
14:43because obviously is it yes like safety element there yes so
14:47we're just working through the details of okay so where am I going to leave my
14:51my husband and I exactly some friends to babysit
14:55yeah you guys go so our lovely Natalie from
14:58from the board is maybe going to join in one of her and
15:01her team is maybe going to come and help babysit the children okay well that's
15:04good that's good you have the support do it
15:07okay before we get into because you mentioned Eid so we are going to get
15:10into Ramadan but before we get into that because I
15:13just I just find it crucial to
15:18open our children's eyes yeah to these I mean I don't want to say harsh realities
15:23but they they they aren't easy for them to see that there are other
15:27people in the world that are less fortunate and that that might
15:31have certain struggles that we're not aware of or that kids these days aren't
15:34aware of because they don't see it you know immediately yeah and I just
15:39wanted to know what was your daughter's impression I'm actually curious to know
15:43I want to know like what's the impression that these kids
15:46are left with once they're back from these trips I think it's had a
15:49profound impact on her so I mean it's the kids here they are
15:54very privileged and really blessed with you know what they what they can have
15:58what they can do so I think that's one of the reasons I
16:01took her I wanted her to see that you know how fortunate she is
16:06and also to understand that there's other people in the world some of whom
16:10you know many of whom actually need help and support and how can you as an
16:14individual contribute and make a difference and
16:16make lives better so um I think it was it was one of the
16:22most amazing trips of my life and I think hers too
16:25it we went from you know I'm also a mother-daughter bonding experience but
16:29she's also you know at the time she was eight and
16:32very much wanting to be independent and kind of run her own sessions and
16:36work alone without without me around so I also
16:40that kind of having that freedom and allowing her to do that
16:43I think was really just helped her helped her grow as an individual
16:48she I think when we look back she just talks so fondly about it and it's given
16:53her a huge amount of story to tell and it's a
16:56very unique experience and not everyone has so
16:59a class you know when she came back her class were fascinated by what she'd
17:02experienced also kind of sharing of that information
17:05was really kind of empowered her and also
17:09helped give them something interesting to listen to that was a bit different
17:13my son who we didn't take because at the time he was four
17:17is mummy when are we going to Malawi like kind of
17:21desperate to go and I've already talked to Sarah actually about a trip for the
17:24four of us because he asks me all the time because of how
17:27my daughter Rosalie was about it and what she saw
17:31but the one thing that I think just is really important to know
17:34is the children that you meet in you know any country I don't think I've ever
17:40been to one of our charity projects and not
17:42been greeted by a sea of just smiling happy faces
17:46so regardless of you know our perception of what we think is happy and what we
17:51think is you know privilege and yeah and having
17:54what we have I don't think that guarantees happiness
17:58in the way that if you're living and working on the land and
18:02creating and you're physically active and you're playing all the time and
18:07you're one of the lucky ones because always when we go to the charity
18:11projects these kids are the lucky ones they are the ones who have protection
18:15they have access to education they have a roof
18:18over their heads they have food right and not all of the children in those
18:23countries have that and so I'm very mindful that
18:28yes for sure there's privilege here and
18:31we are I guess happy and lucky but actually
18:34I think that I'm always left with this profound respect
18:39that actually happiness comes from just it's within you
18:43it's for who you are and making the most of what you have and that could be
18:47nothing and you could still be extremely happy so
18:50it's really it's just it's amazing experience it's so
18:53um I think it just makes you really reflect on
18:57yes on your life and I always come back from any challenge actually but
19:01particularly the volunteer challenges where you're working so closely with the
19:04kids and the and the staff on the ground it
19:07just really makes you reflect on what is important and actually material goods
19:10do not bring happiness like having access to you know amazing
19:15restaurants doesn't it doesn't bring happiness
19:18friends connections working with nature being with nature
19:23you know yeah that's what I think brings happiness
19:26yeah but the safety security aspect that is obviously important no one can
19:30operate in you know a place where um you know they're
19:34being abused or they haven't got a home you
19:38know this that's obviously awful and that's where we try to give as
19:43many children around the world those kind of
19:46the basic access to education food safe
19:50and a home and yeah that's I think once that's in place then you kind of create
19:55your own happiness absolutely absolutely I love that you
19:59shared that with us thank you I mean I'm sure it wasn't the easy
20:04easiest obviously as well with with you know what you've seen on the ground
20:08as well and then reflecting that upon yourself
20:11but I know I had a friend who did that with her kids as well and
20:15she said after that trip they realized that it's not the gifts that they get
20:21that make them happy and it's exactly what you said
20:24and they started putting aside presents every birthday knowing that
20:30they'll send it back to that village that they
20:32visited knowing that it's not that extra gift that's going to make a difference
20:36and one of them actually came and told her he was
20:40seven I think or eight at the time he's like they have nothing but they're
20:44always smiling and I'm always complaining yeah and he was only seven
20:48and she's like that to me was the success of that's the learning
20:51that's it like I was I was done I was good yeah I could go home after that
20:56but that's a lovely initiative that they're like donating their presence and
20:59so important yeah and it's so right yeah they're happy
21:03and we complain and we complain and and you know to them
21:07we might have everything materialistically
21:10however they have the happiness they have that one thing that we keep seeking
21:15through these materialistic yeah things okay
21:19uh going back to you mentioned there's a
21:24challenge what about ramadan so since it's the holy month of ramadan and
21:30people are fasting and people want to do good during the the month-long fast
21:36are there any special initiatives that you're doing during ramadan and how can
21:40people get involved sure so every year we have a ramadan
21:44campaign that we run and launch throughout the month where people can
21:47donate so this year it's called the gift of
21:50giving and we're raising money for an amazing
21:53charity in pakistan called the citizens foundation so it's um
21:57basically a program to develop and um educate children in pakistan and
22:02rural areas so we um the idea is that you
22:08gift you basically you you purchase a gift
22:11and you give it to somebody and then that gift is the donation for that
22:14charity so it's all of our campaigns when we're
22:18fundraising are i think without fail through yalla give
22:22so with the licensing that we um get when we are approved to fundraise
22:26we set up a yalla give campaign that'll be accessible through our website
22:30and yalla give directly and people can go and donate
22:33and we're just trying to raise as much money for that charity as possible
22:37we've worked with them for a couple of years now and looking to
22:40actually hopefully visit them next or well you heard it here first
22:44i had a really amazing meeting a few days ago
22:48with a charity and they're based in um karachi
22:52and they have satellite kind of schools in different parts of pakistan so i'm
22:56wondering if we could support both and do a trip to volunteer
23:00one of them and then support the other or we can do a
23:04split a split challenge where we support both
23:06so more to follow but um 2025 challenge may be on the horizon
23:11nice if we can if we can obviously there's a safety and security element
23:15and we were meant to do a challenge there a couple of years ago but we had
23:18to pull it because there was just political unrest at the
23:21time but um i think things have settled down a little bit and we're now
23:25starting to to explore that again so yeah that's
23:28our that's our ramadan campaign from for this year and then we're also hosting
23:31an iftar okay so we typically run an iftar every
23:35year this year it's on the 21st of march it's at the strand which has
23:39become our um i just our happy place for running
23:42events it's such the team is amazing they're so
23:45um supportive of us and just really flexible really amiable the staff there
23:52are incredible the food's great i mean everything is just perfect amazing
23:55everyone should come to the strand although
23:57don't not not all the time because i would never be able to exactly
24:01then you won't get in place to sit or yeah
24:04but it's lovely it's a really nice environment and so we're hosting there
24:07and there's a charge uh i think it's 175
24:11per person and um that obviously gets the iftar experience okay um do you
24:18find that there's a surge in donations and volunteers during ramadan
24:22yeah we do i think to your point i mean it's a time where people reflect and
24:26they think about how they can give back and it is just a
24:30time of giving and a time of reflection so we do experience um people wanting to
24:35donate and just contacting us with sponsorship
24:39or partnership opportunities that um maybe it wouldn't
24:42happen so much the rest of the year and people approach us about our
24:46campaigns people also want to organize campaigns with their
24:49with their companies so we can also um you know if your company wanted to have
24:54a campaign we can help that we can help facilitate
24:58that as long as it's supporting one of our
25:01charities because the work behind you know getting an
25:04approved charity here in terms of um you know we go through a lot of
25:07due diligence to make sure that every organization that we work with
25:11is audited properly everything is above board we have proper documentation
25:16we make sure that there's a project that we're funding so we can see when it's
25:19been implemented that the money has directly gone to that
25:22so there's a lot of due diligence that that goes into that
25:25so um we drive the organizations to support one of those kind of pre-approved
25:30charities because it's easier and quicker
25:33and we we know that we will see that the money will go to
25:37the right it'll it'll make it to the the child at the end of the day that
25:41will benefit so yeah lots of different ways you can get involved and
25:45i mean i think this morning i had five volunteer emails saying
25:49i'd like to volunteer and give back so that's um that's definitely more than
25:53normal i think that that number tends to ramp up at this time of year or
25:56during the kind of lead up to ramadan and um actually i think it's something
26:01on the table for us to think about is that
26:04during that month how else can we support people to give
26:08them those kind of volunteering opportunities so i'll have a i'll take
26:11that away and think about it with the team
26:13nice very nice okay um before we let you go i know we've taken up so much of
26:20your time but um what's your advice to people who want
26:23to do good but just don't know like how or where to start or
26:26what to um what to get involved in basically
26:31i'd say i mean firstly you can reach out to us we're available at info
26:36at golfforgood.org and we'll come back to you and give
26:40advice but i i would say that it's easy fundraising is quite daunting
26:46it can be quite overwhelming the prospect of having to hit a target
26:49potentially you know so i think doing it with a partner or a
26:54group of people is actually a really kind of soft way
26:58to get into it we've had this year we've had you know
27:01a mother and son approach us to do a fundraising campaign for one of our
27:05charities in tanzania because they're climbing mount maroon
27:08off their back an initiative they've approached us because they want to
27:12coordinate their trip with the ability to to give back to a
27:16charity in the country that they're going to do that
27:18um and so i think it's about asking the questions
27:22i think there's a perception here that fundraising is a big no-no or it's
27:26it's not possible that's not true you have to find
27:30an approved organization that's got the legislation in place that
27:34they have you know all the permits etc and the working relationship
27:37with ihc so we're obviously fully licensed to operate like that
27:42but that you know takes time and ihc actually is an incredible wealth of
27:47information as well the people who work there are
27:50phenomenal they all really care about giving back so i would say that that's
27:54also um and you know kind of a place that
27:57people could go to to ask um for information they hold
28:01information evenings um occasionally which will um you know
28:05help kind of dispel any rumors about fundraising here which is all it's all
28:11possible as long as you have the permits in place to do so
28:14as long as you're doing it through an organization that has that that ability
28:18so i would just suggest reach out ask questions
28:22join forces because that helps kind of um i think with people comes the
28:27opportunity to you know brainstorm and think about what
28:30you can do and be creative i think the best fundraising kind of
28:34things i've seen are always around events so if you are not afraid to host
28:38an event or to to run something and think a bit you
28:41know creatively or differently about it then the world can be your oyster and
28:45you can actually raise a lot of money for amazing charities
28:48and i actually the whole premise behind you know them is
28:51about with all of the money that is you know here we know that this is such an
28:56affluent country it's about taking funds from the uae and
29:00supporting those developing nations around the world where there isn't so
29:04much money so i think if anyone is wanting to do
29:07that they would be very supportive right amazing amazing okay where can we
29:11find you guys so we are on our well we have a website
29:15which is www.golfthenumber4good.org
29:20uh also we're on facebook we're on instagram we
29:23are set we're on linkedin setting up on um
29:28oh my gosh my mind's gone blank video tick tock
29:31amazing okay so all of that is golf for good with the word for not the number so
29:36golf for good um you can obviously find us in the
29:39mountains at the weekends we've got i think
29:42eight challenges lined up between now and the end of the year
29:45so we're running um so i mentioned already uganda ethiopia and
29:49indonesia but we're also running everest base camp
29:52in october we're running machu picchu in uh july yeah okay we're running
29:59um malaysia in also july and kili we're doing a kilimanjaro
30:05women's only challenge uh in july as well
30:09um lots going on in july we've got uganda in august as i mentioned and
30:14i think very excitingly we've got bhutan in november
30:18which we've actually been provisionally granted permission to
30:23and visit um without the permit that most people have to
30:26um pay because it's very expensive to go to bhutan yes because we're
30:30raising money for charity they're actually supporting us by waving that
30:34so it's an incredible opportunity i'm pretty sure that challenge is going to
30:37sell out and yeah super exciting i'm sure i'm
30:41sure otherwise we have a ball as well so our
30:43gala ball which we host annually is on the 1st of june
30:47and that's at the ritz carlton in jbr and it's just a wonderful
30:50community evening celebrating our challenges
30:54celebrating our charities celebrating everything about who golf for good is
30:58and and just basically trying to raise
31:00awareness and get as much money raised as possible
31:04for our charity projects as we can so we're starting to sell tickets now
31:08and people can join us and also find out information
31:11in that evening we'll you know we'll talk about everything we've got coming
31:15up and and share as much information as we can
31:18and around the tables there'll be leaflets and flyers and
31:21qr codes so people can go and find more info that's beautiful thank you so much
31:25for sharing everything today because i feel like
31:27i for one i learned so much and i'm sure
31:31you know the audience did too because um we put out a poll and a lot of people
31:35are just they're not aware as you said there's always that people are always
31:38tiptoeing around fundraising yeah you know
31:41charities because of the rules and regulations which are in place
31:45so that you know with good scammers exactly
31:48exactly it's it's all for a good reason so thank you so much for sharing
31:52everything today cat it was lovely having you
31:55please keep me posted i'd love to come to some of these events and
31:58i think you should come on a challenge yes what you're gonna sign up for
32:03can i convince you to do kilimanjaro physically
32:07i feel like i'm not there yet i feel like you should know that i did that
32:10without any training so it's all in your mind it's in the
32:14mind huh okay well maybe then i'll think about that because i like the fact that
32:17it's all women and you know yeah women empowerment i like that okay let's
32:20think about it deal thank you thanks so much
32:37you

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