Tito Noguera se refirió por primera vez al fallecimiento de Claudia, su tercera hija.
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00:00Yes, of course.
00:01But you were married at 20, so...
00:03If I had been married, yes, of course.
00:05You have six children.
00:08Six.
00:09Six children.
00:11But one died.
00:12I think the best way to interpret this is through something I'm going to read.
00:15If you'll allow me.
00:16Good.
00:18This is written by...
00:20Damián Noguera.
00:21By Damián Noguera.
00:22My son, Damián.
00:23Autographed by my father, Héctor Noguera.
00:25Actual memories.
00:27Where there is a story of yours, which is very powerful,
00:30which is about your daughter's death.
00:33I could have saved her.
00:36I'm sure I could have saved her.
00:40I look at her broken body.
00:42And in this present that feels,
00:45a few moments away from life,
00:47I think of my daughter.
00:49Of my daughter who died shortly after birth.
00:52Of my real daughter.
00:54A little blue thing
00:56that I saw on a hospital bed,
00:58surrounded by doctors running from a corridor
01:00to an elevator that closed
01:03so I would never see her again.
01:06A little blue thing,
01:08like the blue of this staircase.
01:20This story is very powerful.
01:22Yes.
01:24And it is very well interpreted by Damián.
01:26Because he wrote that.
01:28I told him, but he wrote it.
01:30Just as you read it.
01:33Tell me, what happened?
01:35In what circumstances did your daughter die?
01:37Well, she was our first daughter with Claudia, right?
01:41There was a lot of hope with her.
01:45But we already saw on the way,
01:47through some ultrasound,
01:49that Clotita was not well.
01:52But never as bad as she was really born.
01:56She had something called onfalocele.
01:59Look at what a complicated word.
02:01It consisted, it seemed, that she did not close
02:04her stomach, her stomach.
02:06So it was open.
02:08And it did not close.
02:10So it was assumed that when she was born,
02:12her stomach was going to operate
02:14and this was going to close.
02:16But that she could live.
02:18But at the time of birth,
02:20other factors appeared
02:22that did not appear in the ultrasound.
02:25She had a closed trachea.
02:27She had to do a tracheotomy
02:29for her to breathe.
02:31And among other things, right?
02:33I did not know all the details,
02:35but I imagine that the blue color
02:37of her body had to do with that.
02:39With that she could not breathe.
02:42And she was quickly removed from the clinic
02:45to be transferred to another place,
02:47to the hospital,
02:49where they thought she could be saved.
02:51But it did not happen.
02:53She was taken to another hospital and it did not happen.
02:55There I met my two daughters,
02:57Maria Piedad and Amparo,
02:59and the doctor, also Dr. Ricardo Franca,
03:01who was the one who gave me the news
03:04that she was not going to live anymore.
03:07And there I met them,
03:09my two daughters,
03:11who welcomed me there,
03:13they received me.
03:15I met her and felt with her
03:17a company and
03:19a solidarity
03:22and a huge love.
03:24You lose a love, but
03:27other loves manifest,
03:29as in this case my two daughters.
03:31So it was a great support for me.
03:34You tell there that you see that they take your daughter
03:36and you never see her again.
03:38Never again.
03:42Until today, never again.
03:45And Claudia,
03:47she did not even see what I saw.
03:50Claudia,
03:52I saw her pass.
03:54Claudia did not see her pass.
03:56Claudia, when she was born,
03:58she was doped quickly,
04:00they gave her some injection
04:02that left her semi-conscious.
04:04And I communicated to her
04:06at a time when she was a little more awake,
04:09this that had happened.
04:11Well, it was a very painful moment.
04:13The most painful moment
04:15was when we returned home.
04:17Because, of course, we had everything ready
04:19to receive her,
04:21her piece, her crib,
04:23the clothes, the stuffed animals,
04:25all those things
04:27that the babies use,
04:29the cascabel so that it sounds,
04:31so that she plays.
04:33And all that becomes
04:35something useless,
04:37something senseless.
04:39There a void is produced.
04:41It has been very strong, very big.
04:43You wait to get home with your baby
04:45and start a life with her
04:47and there is nothing.
04:49And that was our first daughter.
04:51And then it was also hard
04:53because Claudia, several doctors told her
04:55that she would not be able to have more
04:57children, babies.
04:59At least, yes, three doctors.
05:01And very connoted.
05:03We accepted that situation, right?
05:05Until at one point
05:07I found myself at a meal,
05:09with Claudia, also with a friend
05:11who saw the tarot, Sheila.
05:13And Sheila asked me, how are you?
05:15I told her.
05:17Why don't you see me tomorrow?
05:19And she took out the cards.
05:21Well, I said, I'm going.
05:23I went there the next morning.
05:25She saw the cards,
05:27she talked to me about many things.
05:29Suddenly she said to me,
05:31you told me last night that Claudia
05:33was not going to have more babies.
05:35I said, you are half crazy,
05:37what I read here is that your wife
05:39is pregnant.
05:41I said, but it can't be.
05:43And I laughed at the matter
05:45and kept talking about other things.
05:47I got home, I met Claudia
05:49and I said, Claudia, I'll tell you.
05:51But like a policeman.
05:53They told me that she was pregnant.
05:55Claudia got pale and said to me,
05:57I've been more than ten days ago
05:59and I didn't dare tell you,
06:01so as not to excite you.
06:03But there we knew that she was pregnant.
06:05And then three more were born.
06:07Diego, Emilia and Damián were born.
06:09The author of the book you have there.
06:11How did you handle the fears
06:13in those pregnancies?
06:15With a lot of fear.
06:17With a lot of fear, of course.
06:19But with confidence too.
06:21Confident too.
06:23With fear, but with confidence.
06:25No, the truth is that, yes,
06:27we were afraid, of course,
06:29but I never thought
06:31that those children were going to live.
06:33That those children were going to live.
06:35Claudia, who is this first daughter
06:37who unfortunately dies,
06:39obviously produces a very important
06:41remnant at the family level
06:43and at the level of the couple,
06:45because that is inevitable.
06:47They say that a situation like that
06:49can end with a couple.
06:51Or join it more.
06:53Or join it more.
06:55I think it served to join it more.
06:57You formed the family,
06:59I'm thinking of the number of children,
07:01they are all there.
07:03I even have two,
07:05a great-granddaughter and a great-grandson.
07:09Let's see.
07:11Hello, grandfather.
07:13Hello, Manolita.
07:15I want to send you a giant kiss.
07:17Tell you that I love you very much.
07:19I admire you very much.
07:23I will always be grateful
07:25to observe you,
07:27to observe you
07:29in your profession,
07:31in your education.
07:33I think you are an example.
07:35My wisdom.
07:37For your calm, your silence.
07:39For your dedication in everything you do.
07:41For your motivation.
07:43I think it is an honor to be able to see that
07:45up close.
07:47I love you.
07:49Hello, uncle.
07:51I'm going to school.
07:53I love you.
07:57I wish you a good day.
08:01That's it.
08:03Hello, grandfather.
08:05I'm Matilde, your granddaughter.
08:07I just want to take this opportunity
08:09to send you a kiss, a tight hug,
08:11as always.
08:13I'm very grateful for the beautiful things
08:15you have taught me about theater,
08:17about life, about the reality of life.
08:19I send you a huge kiss,
08:21and I'll see you very soon.
08:23Bye.
08:25Hello, dad.
08:27How are you?
08:29I'm in Vienna.
08:31We were just walking.
08:33I'm glad to see you.
08:35This is not a place you know,
08:37but we were together.
08:39Today, in fact, it is...
08:41So let's talk for a while.
08:43That's it.
08:45Hello, grandfather.
08:47Hello, uncle.
08:49We are very fortunate to be able
08:51to receive all your experience,
08:53wisdom,
08:55both in life and in theater.
08:57We send you a kiss,
08:59and we love you very,
09:01very, very much.
09:03Hello, daddy.
09:05How are you?
09:07Here I am sending you
09:09a loving greeting.
09:11Have a good time on that show.
09:13I have no doubt that
09:15everyone will have a good time with you
09:17because you are a beautiful
09:19and important person.
09:21I send you a kiss,
09:23a hug,
09:25and I love you very much.
09:27Greetings, uncle.
09:29We love you very much.
09:31Bye.
09:33How nice.
09:35How nice.
09:37How nice to receive a greeting
09:39from the United States.
09:41He is a family man.
09:43Yes, a family man.
09:45They give you a lot of love and respect,
09:47and they see you as a wise man,
09:49not only because of your profession,
09:51or your extraordinary career
09:53as an actor,
09:55as a producer, director,
09:57I mean, a life dedicated
09:59to the world of theater,
10:01without television,
10:03but they see you as a close person,
10:05as a coherent, wise man.
10:07I think that's worth a lot, uncle.
10:09It's worth a lot.
10:11I am very aware of that,
10:13and I appreciate that.