Un momento difícil para la periodista y conductora Monserrat Álvarez
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00:00Let's talk about your brother, because here is a photo that I liked because I think he identifies it and you uploaded it.
00:11Which is this succulent garden that your brother started.
00:16In a house on the beach that he built in Zapallar when he was studying architecture.
00:22And now you have been taking over that garden little by little and I imagine it is very significant for you.
00:30Yes, that is a very significant place because it is a very rough terrain, there is not much water, it is a matter like that.
00:43And that my dad, with my brother, my dad had a beautiful garden, he went to the hill to get succulents, he brought some cacti from here.
00:51And when my dad died, basically, no one took care of the garden because you have to have a talent and a vocation and an energy.
01:01And my brother had died, so that place is like our family place, my dad and my brother are buried there, next to the cemetery.
01:11Specifically?
01:12In the Zapallar Papu cemetery.
01:14They are there, we are close and it is something like, they are old houses, so we are always fighting like this is not over, you know?
01:23It is a place that means a lot to all of us.
01:27And of course, I think everyone, my mother was in charge of this place for a while and recently left it and we are trying to work on it.
01:36So it is a place that, for me, has feelings, because it is the most beautiful place in the world, but also a place that produces a little bit of heart.
01:43Because I also want it to be as beautiful as when they left it.
01:46Because my brother, an architect, invented, being a student, a house that is the most uncomfortable thing you can imagine.
01:51To go to the bathroom, you have to go down three floors, with a ladder like this, because as it was the hill, it was cheaper to build like this,
01:58I don't know what, the most…
01:59You can experience it.
02:00The most uncomfortable, but beautiful.
02:02So exquisite, no, it is very beautiful.
02:05How was your bond with your brother?
02:07I think he was, I don't know, for me he was like the influence, and the minute he died, he was also the greatest influence I had, like those figures.
02:16My father was super important, but in the minute, like all my adolescence, my brother was the figure.
02:22And I went out a lot with my brother.
02:25We went to the movies, my brother went to live in New York and I left.
02:29And I lived in an environment, and I went a month with him to New York, to live in the same room, you know?
02:39So it was very entertaining, but it was too entertaining.
02:43It was full of ideas and all this, deep down, all the time he told you what you were.
02:47Monzi, what you have to do with your life, then he told you a theory, but deep down here, what happens to you,
02:51is that I don't know what, you didn't dare to break with your maternal figure and super dense things.
02:55And your Monzi in the background, I don't know what.
02:57And the next day he had a super different theory.
02:59So maybe one entertained with him, you know?
03:01And people, because he had 8,000 friends, everyone said, when he died, they said,
03:07life is really going to be more hungry without Sebastián.
03:10And I said, I can't live this without my brother, I want to know what he thinks.
03:14Because I always thought a different thing than I thought.
03:17And it was always, then it happened to me with many things in my life that I wanted to know what my brother would have said.
03:24And in what conditions did your brother die?
03:28He had a very bad accident.
03:30He was working as an architect in New York, and he was, I don't like to go into so much detail,
03:37but they were finishing the OVA, they were going to have a party,
03:41and he was preparing things and he fell off the building.
03:44That's how he died.
03:47So it was a matter of fortune.
03:50Idiot.
03:51As many deaths can be.
03:54You were here in Chile at that time?
03:55Yes, I was here.
03:57There were no cell phones.
04:00No, terrible, terrible.
04:02But that night, I still don't like to remember it, because it was very terrible, very terrible.
04:07Cell phone, fixed phone, my parents were on the beach,
04:11police officers going to pick him up, because there were no cell phones, no.
04:15I mean, on top of that, your family, your father is in the States and you are here in Santiago?
04:18I was in Santiago, my father was on the beach, my other brother in Santiago,
04:22my sister lived in Spain, my younger sister doing a post-graduate,
04:26and my other sister in Paris.
04:29So it was…
04:31because we were here, we left for New York to look for him,
04:35while my sister was coming to Chile.
04:37It was the most terrible thing in life.
04:41What do you think of a moment like that?
04:43I think that…
04:47because the reactions are similar in human beings.
04:50But it doesn't mean that some people are suffering more or less than others,
04:54I don't know if you understand me.
04:55Perfect.
04:56How did you live it?
04:58Look, I…
05:02maybe the person who has died, someone…
05:04the worst moment of the day is when you open your eyes in the morning.
05:09It's a thing, you open your eyes and you think,
05:12I don't want to.
05:14You can't believe the new life that is going to…
05:17waking up is waking up.
05:19It's terrible.
05:20Terrible, terrible, terrible.
05:22Those first minutes when you open your eyes,
05:24every morning is terrible.
05:26We, my family, we cried together, really.
05:31There were times when…
05:33but it was a matter of…
05:35and we got together the first two years,
05:38because as everyone lived abroad, it was terrible.
05:41Terrible.
05:42Look, we…
05:43I don't know, my family is unbearable,
05:45because as my brother lived abroad,
05:47we always got together every Christmas here.
05:49My sister came from Spain,
05:50my brother from the United States,
05:51my sister from France.
05:53And to go look for the others, we disguised ourselves, you know?
05:57And one day we put on a wig,
05:58another day…
05:59imagine, one day…
06:00my father got into the habit of a nun and a priest.
06:04We were all nuns.
06:05At the airport?
06:06At the airport.
06:09No, I still look like a nun.
06:11Motivated family.
06:15I don't like that anymore,
06:16because my family is so nostalgic when we disguise ourselves.
06:18I die, the last time I said,
06:19I'm not going to disguise myself.
06:22Martin, don't know this question.
06:24The last time I disguised myself was at Rock and Pop,
06:27and I got the costumes from that show
06:30that had the Rumpik,
06:31and they were all silver.
06:32So you got the costumes so your family could go to the airport like that?
06:36And I said, I'm not going to dress like that.
06:38And what did you wear?
06:39No, but wait,
06:40so my family said,
06:41hey, you're getting old,
06:42why don't we disguise ourselves this year?
06:43I said, I don't want to disguise myself.
06:44No, no, no.
06:45You have to disguise yourself.
06:46You can't break the tradition.
06:47I said, I don't want to disguise myself.
06:49Oh, no, then you get, I don't know what.
06:51And I said, you know what?
06:52I'm going to get you costumes.
06:53And I got them
06:54those costumes that were a Martian thing,
06:56of silver astronauts,
06:58with hoses.
06:59This was…
07:00My father,
07:01my father was short,
07:02short,
07:03my mother was also short at that time,
07:05walking to the airport
07:06with these lunar costumes,
07:08and he's going to tell you,
07:09and I didn't go.
07:10I'm embarrassed.
07:11I didn't go.
07:12And suddenly,
07:13my brother Pablo always says
07:14that my father is super serious.
07:15Sir, where are you arriving?
07:17Because you arrived late to the plane.
07:18Where do I get the LAN that comes from Paris?
07:20Over here, sir.
07:21And my father, my mother, and my brother
07:22running with silver costumes.
07:24To the airport?
07:26My brother said,
07:27she's dressed and I couldn't believe it.
07:29So my family was like this.
07:31Intense.
07:32No, grumpy.
07:33All grumpy still.
07:35But in that way of family,
07:38my brother died.
07:42You see?
07:43So it was like things that were cut super heavy.
07:49So like that…
07:51So that's why it was like a…
07:54a super strong cut of…
07:57And then, well,
07:58a while later,
07:59how long later,
08:00he died…
08:02Not so much,
08:03because my father died
08:04about ten years after Sebastián,
08:06I think, yes.
08:09You told me something
08:10that I hadn't thought about.
08:11You're right.
08:12When we saw the photo of your brother,
08:14your brother was the youngest of the…
08:15The youngest of the family.
08:16Of the family.
08:21How do you reconcile,
08:23how do you accept the death
08:25that was so unexpected,
08:26such a…
08:29such a momentous death?
08:30Because sometimes,
08:31when there's an illness,
08:32people can say goodbye,
08:33they can talk,
08:34they can clear things up.
08:35But here,
08:36they call you one day
08:37and say,
08:38you know,
08:39your brother died.
08:40That's very, very strong,
08:41very…
08:42That's what…
08:43Of course,
08:44it's like…
08:45There are a lot of things,
08:46well,
08:47a lot of things that I…
08:48What you say is too key,
08:49it's too different
08:50a death with a farewell.
08:52I was obsessed
08:55that Sebastián had died
08:58and he didn't know he had died.
09:01Do you understand me?
09:02Because he was a very conscious person,
09:05he liked to make decisions,
09:07but he disappeared
09:09without knowing he was leaving,
09:11and that was against him.
09:14And I remember that
09:15the only thing I tried was to dream of my brother,
09:18when you want to be with someone
09:19and you try to dream of him
09:20and you don't dream of him
09:21when you don't want to.
09:23And I remember that
09:25a while later,
09:28I dreamed of him and he said to me,
09:30like,
09:32I know I died.
09:36So that gave me peace of mind.
09:38Your dad?
09:39Yes.
09:40Neither he nor I managed to say goodbye,
09:41you know?
09:43And look,
09:44the only thing I can tell you, Martin,
09:45is that in the end,
09:46it's just time.