Zardari had said that he would sit and talk with the media about the return of Mohsin Naqvi,
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00:00Mr. Zardari was called by Maulana Sahib.
00:03We were informed in the morning on the television channels that
00:06Mr. Zardari had told him that he would not do it.
00:09Please tell us about this.
00:11What did Mr. Zardari say to Maulana Sahib?
00:13Your information is correct.
00:16I was not in the meeting.
00:18When Maulana Sahib got in touch with Mr. Bashif Ali Zardari,
00:23when I contacted him and got information,
00:27Maulana Sahib spoke to Mr. Zardari on the phone
00:32and told him to consult the PICA Act.
00:38If it is passed, it will be a big issue for the media and for us too.
00:44Mr. Zardari told me that he was waiting for Mohsin Naqvi to come.
00:53I told him that I will send a message to Mohsin Naqvi.
00:57We will sit with you and the media and finalize the matter.
01:03Within a few hours, Mr. Zardari signed the PICA Act.
01:07We were surprised.
01:09Why were you surprised?
01:10I was making a list.
01:12When the PDM was formed, you signed it.
01:14In the elections, you lost your mandate.
01:17You signed it.
01:19The People's Party took the Governorship from you.
01:23In the 26th Amendment, things were finalized with you.
01:26Then you lost it.
01:27Mr. Zardari signed the Madrasa Bill with you.
01:29If you lost it today, why are you surprised?
01:32Whoever signed it, the party that signed it with Maulana Sahib,
01:36Maulana Sahib did not sign it with anyone.
01:39I am addressing the people through this show of yours.
01:44Maulana Sahib has always played a role for democracy,
01:48for the constitution, for the supremacy of the parliament,
01:52in the field of legislation, in the protection of the constitution.
01:57When Maulana played a role, whenever there was a need for these big parties,
02:02Maulana was there.
02:04He was a national leader.
02:06Even though his party was not as aggressive as the People's Party and PMLN,
02:10Maulana Sahib played a bigger role than the PMLN.
02:14The 26th Amendment is in front of us.
02:16He wanted to bring about a change.
02:19He wanted to bring about 20% change in the 73rd Amendment.
02:23He wanted to bring about such a change that Aqil Bhai himself did not know about it.
02:27His minister did not know about it.
02:29He did not even know about this bill.
02:31This bill was made by the Interior Ministry.
02:33The problem is with the information.
02:35The bill is coming from the Interior Ministry.
02:37Maulana Sahib came on the 26th and put it on the 22nd.
02:40He put 5-6 of his people in it.
02:42He mentioned Madrasa Bill in it.
02:44The parliament passed it.
02:46In Karachi, Bilawal Sahib, Asif Ali Zardari Sahib,
02:48in Jati Umrah, Bani Mian and Choti Mian.
02:51But that is what happened.
02:53That is what happened.
02:55So now the people should decide.
02:57Have we always supported the parliament with political forces for democracy?
03:01We have supported it.
03:03But what did they do in its reaction?
03:07What was the hurry that the president of the country,
03:10while talking to Maulana Sahib,
03:12the senior leader,
03:14said that I will call Mohsin Naqvi
03:16and then I will send him to talk
03:18and then we will see how to do it.
03:20And then after a short while,
03:22the phone rings or whoever it is,
03:24it must have been a call from Maulana Sahib.
03:27He signs it.
03:29What was the hurry that you put so much pressure on the president
03:32that the president went back on his words?
03:34Look, the president of Pakistan has his own prerogative.
03:37He has his own legal team.
03:39You saw that Madaris Bill was also objected to.
03:41He did a legal consultation.
03:43Now, whether he did a legal consultation on this or not,
03:46this can only be answered by the office of the president of Pakistan.
03:50We are the parliament.
03:52And again, I say that you are absolutely right
03:54that this is the bill of the NTA ministry.
03:56It was in the middle of three or four ministries.
03:58Why?
03:59Now it originated from there.
04:01Why did it originate?
04:03The information is related.
04:05Why did it originate from the ministry of interior?
04:07Because it pertains to national security,
04:09the dignity of a human as well and various other things.
04:11Let everything go.
04:13There is economic security as well.
04:15There is economic security as well.
04:17There is finance as well.
04:19Then get the budget from them.
04:21There is the National Cybercrime Investigating Agency.
04:23Let it go.
04:25There is a fear of God.
04:27Mr. Bappi, tell me, what was the pressure?
04:30Mr. Sardari says to Mr. Maulana that I send Mohsin Naqvi,
04:35but I have seen that he has no burden on Mohsin Naqvi.
04:39Why will Mohsin Naqvi listen to him?
04:41This means that Mohsin Naqvi did not go on his request.
04:47Mohsin Naqvi did not listen to him.
04:49Mohsin Naqvi spoke on behalf of him.
04:51This is the ministry.
04:53Let me tell you something interesting.
04:55Mr. Attaullah Tarar went to a journalist
04:57and told him that there is nothing wrong with this bill.
05:00When he started reading,
05:02the journalist said that the three-year sentence was 10 lakhs.
05:04He said that he had not seen this.
05:06The information minister did not know
05:08how the interior ministry made this bill.
05:10I am sure that someone must have made this draft and given it to the interior ministry.
05:13We all know who gave it.
05:15Ultimately, who was the agenda serving?
05:17Everybody knows it.
05:19I am sure that the one who called Mr. Maulana
05:21told him to hurry up.
05:23By the way, Bilawal has to go to Dubai today.
05:25The point is that
05:27everything that has been put in this bill
05:29is all dubious.
05:31These are all false claims.
05:33He said that this bill is for women's rights.
05:35It has nothing to do with religion.
05:37It is nothing to do with religion.
05:39It is nothing to do with religion.
05:41The three-year sentence is 10 lakhs.
05:43The tribunal will go to the Supreme Court.
05:45The decision of the tribunal cannot be challenged.
05:47If you want to make a new YouTube channel,
05:49you have to go to the National Cyber Crime Investigation Agency,
05:52which will be approved by someone else, not the government.
05:55You have to take a phone call from the PTA.
05:57You have to fill in 1.5 lakhs.
05:59Then your phone will turn on.
06:01If you want to make a YouTube channel,
06:03you have to open a Facebook account,
06:05you have to open an account on Instagram,
06:07and you have to get approval from NCCSA.
06:09If you don't register,
06:11then your account cannot operate.
06:13If there was one media in Pakistan
06:15which had a little freedom to talk to people,
06:17now they will also be crushed.
06:19No one in Pakistan can handle the social media accounts.
06:23But they think they can handle it.
06:25Ultimately, Mr. Mohanlal,
06:27it will either affect you or us.
06:29Ultimately, it has to do with journalists
06:31or the Pakistan government.
06:33It is affecting us because of you.
06:35It is affecting us because of you.