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00:00Now, one thing is that your meetings have also been opened.
00:05Meetings are also taking place.
00:07So, now India should be taken from this, that now the suggestion given by Mr. Bilawal
00:12that the meeting should be called again.
00:14So, will you participate after the consultation or what will be the procedure?
00:20In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.
00:22Fundamentally, you are talking about the beginning of meetings.
00:25Today was the first meeting and that too was the day of meeting Bukla and the meeting of the family.
00:30And this meeting has not yet been held by any of the political liberals.
00:34It is their Thursday.
00:35Now, on Thursday, when the meeting will take place, the real thing will be known.
00:38But what is the need to see?
00:40See, October…
00:41By the way, how did Babar Awan sir leave?
00:43Babar Awan sir is a lawyer.
00:46See, you, Mr. Salman Raja, he is a lawyer.
00:50He is a lawyer in Mr. Khan's case.
00:52See, take the duration of four and a half months.
00:56How many political meetings are there in this?
00:58Basically, Mr. Khan was kept near to isolation.
01:01What is the only purpose?
01:03That the relationship between the party and them will break.
01:05When there is such a situation, you expect that justice will take perfect decisions.
01:11It becomes very difficult to operate in such an environment.
01:15This is the courage of the party.
01:16The party still tried to run things, tried to fill those gaps.
01:20Today, there was a very detailed meeting.
01:22Now, what Mr. Khan has said, we will meet on Thursday.
01:25So, Mr. Salman Akram Raja has already met, right?
01:27He is also the Secretary General of the party.
01:29He is calling the shots.
01:30Of course, we have met.
01:31We have given him instructions.
01:34Now, the political people will go.
01:35Now, see, Mr. Salman Akram Raja, meeting once solves all the problems.
01:39See, which party are you talking about?
01:41The majority party.
01:42Now, see, you talk about Balochistan.
01:44Terrorists.
01:45This seems to be a very good thing to say that we are trying to put out the fire.
01:51But are we seeing who is putting firewood in this fire?
01:54See, we are not tackling that thing.
01:56If you just look at the operational side, that we have an operation.
02:00But on principle, tell me this.
02:02Tell me this.
02:03On principle, do you think this decision was right for you?
02:06Not being a part of it at that time?
02:08Because, then again, I will say that if this was a meeting with a political party, then it would have been different.
02:14That you are meeting with the Noon League, or you are meeting with the JUI, or you are meeting with the People's Party.
02:18That would have been something different.
02:20This was a matter of national security.
02:22And we all make a pledge to love the country.
02:24We also take oaths.
02:25So, what is the need to ask for that?
02:27This is within us.
02:28This is in our core.
02:29See, now also, the way Mr. Iqtiyar talked about sugar-coating,
02:34whatever he does, it will sound very good.
02:36But what he has said, what he has announced,
02:39there was such a thing that what is the mandate, what is the briefing to be done,
02:42overall, some steps will be taken apart from the briefing.
02:45Overall, a day before, it is said that there is a security briefing in a closed camera.
02:50Now, what are its TORs, what is going to happen, no one knows.
02:53Suddenly, there is a commotion.
02:55Even then, Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaat does not say that we do not want to participate in this.
02:59She has a condition, with whom to meet.
03:01And the next day, Mr. Khan also has a political meeting.
03:04I mean, that day could have been.
03:06Barrister Gauhar was already present from 9 in the morning after Adiala.
03:10The same meeting that was done at 2 in the afternoon,
03:13can't it be done at 9 in the morning?
03:15If it was done at 9, then Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaat could have participated.
03:17There are a lot of things in it.
03:18He has also given the name first.
03:19See, he has also sent the name first.
03:21Then after that, at 12 in the evening, a letter is being written to the Speaker.
03:24See, he has given the name because we have not denied it.
03:27See, we have not denied it, we have not accepted it either.
03:30We have only asked him to meet Mr. Imran Khan,
03:34so that there is visibility.
03:35See, you can come from any direction.
03:37Tehreek-e-Insaat.
03:38Okay, I got your point.
03:39I will come back to this point again.
03:41Mr. Sharmilal, tell me,
03:43this first meeting that took place,
03:45when Mr. Bilawal was appealing,
03:46or when he was making a request to the Prime Minister,
03:48I remember the first pointers that Mr. Bilawal spoke about.
03:51He said that if Mr. Nawaz Sharif can give the National Action Plan,
03:55then why can't Mr. Shahbaz Sharif give National Action Plan 2?
03:58Was Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari's National Security meeting,
04:03or the results of it,
04:05after that, he wanted to upgrade the National Action Plan again,
04:10or add some points to it,
04:12or were some things missing?
04:18See, Mr. Sati,
04:20looking at the situation, matters and the need for time,
04:23the strategy should be changed.
04:25Okay.
04:26There is something that is lacking,
04:28the way terrorism has risen again,
04:32and there are incidents of terrorism happening in a very organized manner.
04:36Undoubtedly, there is the involvement of India and Afghanistan,
04:40they are the facilitators,
04:41they are the promoters,
04:43they are the financers,
04:44but somewhere or the other,
04:46something or the other is missing,
04:48which needs to be looked at.
04:49Where are those lacunas that need to be filled?
04:52So, there is a need to deliberate on that.
04:54All of them should sit together,
04:56and sit with their heads held high.
04:58You see, this is a matter of national security,
05:01a matter of national survival.
05:03Innocent people are going there.
05:04So, did Mr. Bilawal speak to those lacunas in that meeting,
05:07when this meeting took place?
05:10See, the thing is that,
05:12all the leaders spoke in that meeting,
05:16they spoke about themselves,
05:18and there was a briefing about who are the facilitators,
05:22who are the promoters,
05:23where are the witnesses coming from,
05:25in which group, how many people are there,
05:27what should be done and what should not be done.
05:29I, my personal opinion is this,
05:32and my community's personal opinion is this,
05:34that see,
05:35all the deliberation on this,
05:37and a continuous deliberation,
05:39see, this is not a one-off incident.
05:41It is obvious.
05:42There was a briefing,
05:43the matter got over,
05:44and whether to take action or not,
05:46make it a hard state,
05:47get out of a soft state,
05:48whatever.
05:49The thing is that,
05:51this needs to be constantly strategized.
05:54Because, the enemy in front of you,
05:57he too has big facilitators,
05:59and promoters,
06:00and financers.
06:01He has a lot of resources.
06:02Like Mr. Ihtiyar Wali is saying.
06:03And when the self-destruction,
06:04we always say this, Mr. Sati,
06:06when the self-destruction comes,
06:08he does not care about his life.
06:10No.
06:11He has to take his own life,
06:12and has to harm others around him.
06:15So, how do you fight a suicide bomber?
06:18Hmm.
06:19You see,
06:20when the fear of death is over,
06:23then the world is not safe.
06:24Obviously, there are factors,
06:25there are facilitators,
06:26there are so many aspects.
06:27Fighting with such terrorists,
06:28is not easy.
06:29I want to know,
06:30Mr. Ihtiyar Wali said here,
06:31that,
06:32first this meeting was to be held,
06:34after that,
06:35there was to be an APCB.
06:37Is this in your knowledge?
06:40All parties,
06:41that is, it was to be called after this?
06:42See,
06:43this is the government.
06:45Okay.
06:46We will support the government,
06:48on that national issue,
06:49where we think,
06:50that they should be supported.
06:52Okay.
06:53And,
06:54this is also decided,
06:55that we,
06:56Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
06:57before this National Security meeting,
06:59said this in his address to the National Assembly,
07:03that,
07:04you should make National Action Plan 2.
07:05Okay.
07:06Because,
07:07it is an issue of terrorism.
07:08When Jaffar Express was convened,
07:09he said this.
07:10So,
07:11we are supporting the government,
07:12in every step,
07:13towards improvement and peace.
07:16Now,
07:17if APC is called,
07:18or some other forum is deliberated,
07:20we will support them.
07:21Okay.
07:22See,
07:23any amount of discussion and consensus,
07:25is not enough.
07:26You will have to trust the nation.
07:29You will have to own this war.
07:32You will have to own the nation of this country.
07:35Until you have the will of the people,
07:38you cannot win this war.