Message of Unity is Crucial, the Country’s Largest Party Must...’ PTI Leader
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00:00Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:08If you look at KP or Balochistan, there are different fronts, but they are being targeted.
00:14Do you think that it was necessary to send a message of unity from here at this time?
00:22Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:28If you look at KP or Balochistan, there are different fronts, but they are being targeted.
00:34Do you think that it was necessary to send a message of unity from here at this time?
00:40Q. Senator, you have said that Pakistan is under attack from the past few days.
00:44I just want to give you an example.
00:46More than 48 hours ago, Pakistan faced 45 terrorist attacks.
00:56More than 48 hours ago, Pakistan faced 45 terrorist attacks.
01:07There is no doubt that the message of unity should be conveyed.
01:12I was also with Nadeem Malik on the day of the hijacking of the train and the attack.
01:19The same thing was being said there that the whole of the nation approach should be taken.
01:24And in the whole of the nation approach, you cannot achieve the whole of the nation approach
01:29by excluding the biggest political party in the country.
01:32And I would like to make one thing clear, because you have mentioned it twice in your introduction.
01:38Yesterday, when we were asked for a list, you agreed to it.
01:44And apart from that, when we had to communicate about the decision of participation,
01:49what I can see is that there has been an attempt to create confusion
01:57or to make the PTI a dead allegation.
02:01There is nothing like that in this.
02:03First, there was a meeting of the parliamentary party.
02:05It was during the day.
02:06Even in the meeting of the parliamentary party, the decision was that participation would be required.
02:12And on that occasion, a list was sent.
02:15But sending a list did not mean that participation would be required.
02:18After that, the meeting of the political committee took place in the evening after Iftaar
02:21and continued till 2.30 in the morning.
02:23But in the beginning itself, the decision was made.
02:26The same thing that took place in the meeting of the parliamentary party,
02:29that too took place in the evening in the meeting of the political committee.
02:33And there, 27 people participated.
02:37Out of that, 4 people said that non-conditional participation should be taken.
02:42But the majority of the 23 people…
02:46They left after seeing the social media.
02:48The overwhelming majority said that conditional participation will be taken.
02:51And to what extent was it conditional? Only one.
02:53And we do not think that there was any illegitimate or irresponsible demand in it.
02:59Only this.
03:00That we should have access to our Bani chairman, Mr. Imran Khan.
03:03We should be able to take guidance from him.
03:05And his notice had also gone to the government.
03:09The state had a good notice.
03:12But when our condition…
03:15So when Amir Dogar sent this list…
03:19When Amir Dogar sent this list, you were not in agreement.
03:23But you said that since there is a deliberation on this, we will send the names in advance.
03:26No, no. There was agreement even then.
03:28The list was sent because if there had been a decision later that we will participate,
03:32then the speaker's office would not have been open at 2 in the night to collect the list.
03:36And in the morning, there was a complete siege there.
03:40So we had to send the list that if there is participation, then these people will participate.
03:45So you wrote the letter at night, right?
03:50No, so the letter…
03:55But my question is that if the speaker's office was not open at 2 or 12 at night,
04:00then you had written the letter at that time.
04:06Okay.
04:15Hmm.
04:16I am not saying that the entire opposition, including Akhtar Jaan Mengal and his party,
04:21and Mehmood Khan Achakzai and his party, and Allama Raja Nasir Abbas and his party,
04:26and the entire opposition did not participate.
04:29And they had their own reasons.
04:31This was our reason.
04:32But the declaration that came after that, at least I consider one thing to be positive,
04:37that there is a need for national agreement in this, whatever action is to be taken.
04:40Yes, so Maulana Fazlur Rehman was present there.
04:43Yes.
04:50Mr. Rana, what do you think are the reasons?
04:52Yesterday, we thought that when we did our show, that now PTI has to participate in this,
04:57because they had given the name and the impression was that it was going.
05:00Later, it was felt that when a little trolling started on social media,
05:03then they said that something was wrong.
05:08But first of all, this…
05:09There was a disagreement in the party.
05:11It is a regrettable thing that we have to discuss PTI and their internal matters again and again.
05:19And the focus where it should be, is not there.
05:22Because they plan it like that.
05:25Because he said that you excluded a central party of Pakistan.
05:30No, we invited them.
05:32Their opposition leaders belong to PTI.
05:36And a list was asked from them, that you tell me who all have to participate.
05:39So, they were invited.
05:41An open invitation.
05:43See, their entire policy in the last one and a half years,
05:46whether it is to fight elections in Oxford,
05:49it had only one purpose, that international pressure should fall on Mr. Khan.
05:53In America, they addressed the senators,
05:56which they did, ruined the country.
05:58The purpose was the same, that external pressure should fall.
06:02This is also a moment in the history of Pakistan,
06:07that you have to be on the right side.
06:09You have to decide, as a community,
06:13what is important for you.
06:15Is national interest important for PTI?
06:17It should be more important than political interest.
06:19Yes, political interest.
06:20Now, this is such a thing, we were not allowed to meet.
06:22Okay, if you were not allowed to meet,
06:24then you could have come there and talked about it.
06:26But not participating,
06:28it is a very negative step that PTI took.
06:31And I understand that this is not the time to create division.
06:36This is not the time to create divisions.
06:38This is not the time for your conversation to be divided.
06:42But unfortunately, who can make them understand?
06:44Their attitude has always been the same.
06:47And maybe they are also divided.
06:49A majority in their party,
06:51I think, who had decided that we should include non-constitutional,
06:56they could not prevail because of this fear,
06:59that what will be Mr. Khan's reaction.
07:01Because their agenda is different.
07:03When your agenda is different,
07:05then it is obvious that you are exposed.
07:07And I think, today PTI was exposed in the worst way.
07:10And their voters too,
07:12they too must have regretted that at such a moment,
07:14where your internal rifts do not matter.
07:19These small things do not matter.
07:21But what mattered for the country,
07:23that their presence was there.
07:25I think that even today we should give the same message
07:28that APK's chief executive was present,
07:30so their presence was there.
07:32It is a good thing.
07:34This input is very important.
07:36It is a good thing that there is a conversation,
07:38there is a discussion,
07:40and things are resolved on this forum.
07:42So I think that today PTI is standing on the wrong side of history.