"If you were so powerless, why did PTI knock on our door?"
Irfan Siddiqui
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00:00The Prime Minister says that he and the military leadership are on the same page.
00:07You are also on the same page when it comes to negotiations.
00:10There is full empowerment from there as well.
00:15Because the PTI says that all the power is with them.
00:20They have the power.
00:22They will make the right decisions and whatever decisions are to be made.
00:27So what is your role in this?
00:30What is the relationship between Islamabad and Pindi in the matter of ongoing negotiations?
00:35Look, this decision of ours and the PTI to sit on a table and start a conversation.
00:44You keep in mind the months and years prior to this, the tensions.
00:50This was not a small decision.
00:52You asked what are the chances of success.
00:54Someone else also asked me.
00:56I said that if there are ten numbers, then we have already taken five numbers.
01:01Because we have already sat down.
01:03This sitting down is a big success in itself.
01:06And there should have been some tensions from this as well.
01:10Which I am seeing that is not happening.
01:13Anyhow, I think that the Prime Minister has decided to make a committee for negotiations.
01:21He also spoke to Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif.
01:25Who is the head of the party.
01:27In fact, according to my information, the members of the committee were also discussed.
01:32And they were also accepted.
01:34So, I am sure, I do not have the information,
01:37that they must have also spoken to the people you are pointing to.
01:44And the heads of ISPR have also said in a press conference that the process of dialogue has started.
01:52We welcome this.
01:54And the political parties should sit together.
01:56So, I do not think it is a problem to have a nod on one page.
02:01But it is necessary.
02:03If these negotiations have to be meaningful.
02:06In your opinion, the nod is fine in its place.
02:09It will be there for the start.
02:11But can these negotiations reach any conclusion without approval?
02:17Without approval.
02:20Look, I do not think that the word approval refers to a very big authority.
02:27That someone else has to approve it being the Prime Minister.
02:31Again, that can be a negotiation.
02:33The second thing is that if this is the condition of our helplessness,
02:37which is manifested in your conversation.
02:40And more than your conversation, they keep telling us that they are powerless.
02:44They could not arrange a meeting for us.
02:46They could not do this.
02:48So, I always counter question that if we are so powerless,
02:52if we have nothing in our hands, then why did you knock on our doors?
02:56Why did you come and sit with us?
02:58Or why are you demanding from us?
03:00Or why are you giving us a list of demands?
03:02Why do you come and sit in front of helpless, helpless people?
03:06You are very talented people.
03:08So, the reason for this is that from where they wanted to get this benefit,
03:12they did not get approval from Faizan Chashma.
03:17It is very clear.
03:18Those doors did not open.
03:20When those doors did not open, they came to our door.
03:23We welcomed them.
03:25We always told them to come and talk.
03:27They had reservations.
03:29They did not come.
03:30So, now when they come to our door…
03:32Yes, yes.
03:33Yes, yes.
03:34You say.
03:35No, you complete the point.
03:37I was saying that now that they have come to our door,
03:41they have come to our house.
03:43We respect them a lot.
03:45So, keep an eye on us.
03:47Do not stand at our door and look into any other light or window.
03:52Trust us.
03:54This is our job.
03:56This is the last question.
03:57Mr. Iqbal, the last question is this.
03:59Actually, Mr. Qaisar took the names of two judges who gave punishments.
04:03Shahrukh Arjuman and Humayun Dilawar.
04:06And they say that they can be made judges of the High Court,
04:10so that this happens in the future as well.
04:12If these judges are made,
04:14these two are the judges of the lower level,
04:18if they go to the High Court,
04:20then won't they get a punishment
04:22that first you controlled the Supreme Court with the 26th Amendment
04:26and now you are packing the High Court with the judges of your choice?
04:31Is it bad for the judges to be controversial even before the appointment?
04:39First of all, Mr. Malik,
04:41it is necessary to be controversial.
04:44One is that you have to deal with people
04:48who can make anything controversial,
04:53which cannot even be imagined.
04:56But what happened was that they made the appointment of the Army Chief controversial,
05:01that he is coming,
05:03for that they brought a real procession,
05:05after reaching Islamabad, Pindi,
05:07then they started discussions about the elevation of another judge.
05:13But all these things have never proved fruitful for them.
05:19Difficulties have arisen for them.
05:21What they should have done did not happen.
05:24And what they should have stopped,
05:26that happened.
05:28That is why I do not think that
05:30taking the names of the judges and
05:32condemning them,
05:34or trying to stop someone,
05:36you could not stop Asim Munir,
05:38if Allah had willed, that happened.
05:40The judges who have to come,
05:42and it is not necessary that if they come,
05:44then your appeal is in front of those two,
05:46in front of whom?
05:48In such games,
05:50confusing things,
05:52is not a good thing in my opinion.