Internet sarfeen ki sakht nigrani ke liye hukoomat kin wasail ka istemaal kar rahi hai ?

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00:00Ramsha Jahangir wrote a very good investigative article in Dawn on 22nd August, 2024.

00:06She said that the web management system that has been upgraded and is being done since 2023,

00:13and PTA has also acknowledged it,

00:16they say that in 2018, there was a company called Sandvine.

00:20Sandvine is a very controversial company.

00:22There is talk of its Israeli links.

00:24Its Deep Packet Inspection Technology or DPI,

00:28it can block or stop any traffic coming from VPN,

00:34it has some techniques like packet dropping, rate limit reduction, surveillance,

00:38that is, it can see what is coming, what is going, what is the content,

00:43it can also complete blocking of websites, it can also do VPN whitelisting.

00:49So this technology is there.

00:51If terrorism has to be fought, there are issues of cyber security,

00:56they already have this technology, the government has it.

01:00And this company specializes in these countries where there is such strictness.

01:04They have sold it to Azerbaijan, Turkey, Egypt, Jordan.

01:10So the government has the sources of identification.

01:14They may know that today there is technology,

01:17that this thing is like this, what you have written, what I have said,

01:20then is there any justification?

01:23Yes, of course, as far as terrorism is concerned,

01:26when things are limited to terrorism, then no one has any objection.

01:32And if those technologies are there,

01:35and we have seen in the past that people have been apprehended

01:39due to these technologies,

01:42their sleeper cells have also been broken,

01:46our intelligence agencies have also reached them.

01:49But the problem starts from here,

01:52when you start using all this to suppress a political narrative.

01:56Now if the government itself does not have anything to give a narrative,

02:00if they themselves do not have any good stories to give,

02:03to accept their own narrative in the public.

02:06If they themselves are dumbfounded, then they want us to become deaf.

02:08So that everyone else also becomes deaf.

02:10Now this cannot happen.

02:12Now if you try to do this, then there are many other ways.

02:15Here you were saying that meth is being smuggled with Starlink.

02:18Today I read in the newspaper, I shared with you during the break,

02:21that 4.5 billion dollars, 600 kilos of meth worth 4.5 billion dollars,

02:26has been caught in India in the last 1-2 days,

02:29and Starlink was being used to deliver it.

02:33This is also happening in Ukraine.

02:35So in this era, and you should also try to understand this,

02:39that the most user on digital platforms,

02:43the most engaged is the young generation.

02:46Now what message are you giving to that young generation,

02:49that the platform to vent out your anger,

02:52where you can vent out,

02:54when you put restrictions on such things in the society,

02:57you put restrictions on those avenues,

02:59then what will people do?

03:00Then a new technology will come.

03:01So the way will come out.

03:03But they should focus on their narrative.

03:08If they themselves are unacceptable,

03:10if they do not have legitimacy,

03:12then they are harming the rest of the world to hide their flaws.

03:16Sania ji, I have just told you,

03:18Deep Packet Inspection Technology,

03:20the entire web management system,

03:22is it right what Ramsha has written?

03:24Because then the government has all the ability,

03:27to intercept, to see who is saying what,

03:30which group is not doing what.

03:32So all these things that we are hearing,

03:34are they all just stories?

03:38See, in 2018, the notifications on the Sanvine system,

03:43were acquired.

03:45After that, in the beginning of this year,

03:48we were told that it is being upgraded.

03:50Then we heard the rumours of the so-called firewall,

03:52and the web management system,

03:54which is still not recognized.

03:56Recently, an article has come in Al Jazeera,

03:58that it seems that it has been acquired from a Chinese company.

04:03Because there was a lot of noise about Sanvine,

04:06on the international level.

04:07And in other countries, there is also a debate,

04:10that this surveillance technology,

04:12should have export controls,

04:14just like there are on ammunition.

04:16So on the internet and the global stage,

04:18these things are also being debated.

04:20Right now, the Sanvine system is not working.

04:23Someone else has been acquired.

04:25Their contract expired in 2023,

04:27and Ramsha has written in her article,

04:29what she is saying,

04:30that from May 9 to 11,

04:32a delegation went to China,

04:35and they hacked the firewall,

04:37and according to them,

04:39they paid 1.2 billion for the initial software.

04:42They came back, the test failed,

04:44but everything is going on again.

04:47Yes, absolutely.

04:48They have the system,

04:49but deep packet inspection,

04:51if you are protected from encryption,

04:53your communication is not there,

04:55but your metadata,

04:57who is communicating with whom,

04:59which website is it going to.

05:01So this is like a digital check post,

05:03that which vehicle is going,

05:05what is the vehicle number,

05:07can you be traced,

05:08all these things are being done,

05:10and are happening.

05:11And surveillance,

05:12we know that the open line is happening,

05:14the lawful so-called intercept management system,

05:16which we found out,

05:17Islamabad High Court,

05:19and they know that surveillance technology,

05:21they have been using it a lot,

05:23but by shutting down all these things,

05:25look,

05:26this terrorism statement is not new.

05:28In 2014,

05:29there was APS,

05:31and then the National Action Plan came,

05:33and we were told that PICA is needed.

05:35But what have we seen?

05:37The definition of a terrorist,

05:39is it a journalist,

05:41or a human rights activist,

05:44or a lawyer,

05:46so we have to see,

05:48that the government statements we take at face value,

05:50and the things that are at their disposal,

05:53even in the US,

05:54which is considered a surveillance state,

05:56there too,

05:57congressional hearings have been reformed,

05:59even in Germany,

06:00the intelligence agencies,

06:02they come in a certain area,

06:04and there is oversight over them,

06:06but here,

06:07the executive is free to do whatever he wants.

06:09The authority that is being formed here,

06:11the chairman can immediately get it banned,

06:13or get it inside as well.

06:14Osama,

06:15the issue of VPN,

06:17people are saying that

06:18either there will be a company,

06:19or there will be another one,

06:21or there is a freelancer,

06:22it is very difficult to register for that as well.

06:24Any other person who wants a VPN,

06:26whether it is a student or a researcher,

06:28he may not be able to register for a VPN.

06:30Please clarify this for us.

06:33Yes,

06:34a VPN is a virtual private network,

06:36so to protect your privacy,

06:38you join a network,

06:40in which you are tracked.

06:42Here people are using VPN to go to X,

06:44VPN is for security.

06:46Yes, for basic things.

06:47But see,

06:48when we give digital security training to people,

06:51we tell them,

06:52when you join a public Wi-Fi,

06:54you must use a VPN.

06:56Because if you are connected to different devices on a Wi-Fi network,

07:00you can hack them as well as access them.

07:03So for basic security,

07:05your VPN is very important.

07:06So if I am using a VPN,

07:08I am doing business on it,

07:09or I am a freelancer,

07:10I am working for a company,

07:12so if a person in Thailand hacks me,

07:15and if there is a VPN,

07:16for that,

07:17if there is no VPN,

07:18is it easy,

07:19or is it easier to hack me with a VPN?

07:21If there is no VPN,

07:23then it is easy for you to hack,

07:25or it will be easy to track you.

07:27But a VPN gives you security,

07:29your IP address.

07:30So this gives you the benefit that

07:32no one can do your surveillance.

07:34The agencies in foreign countries,

07:36they are also your security.

07:37Okay, I want to take a quick break.

07:38I am leaving questions.

07:39So tell me this,

07:40then in the statement of the government,

07:42you can see the truth that

07:44we let them use VPN,

07:46so that terrorist organizations,

07:48people of both sides,

07:49can protect their identity.

07:50Then the Prime Minister shouldn't do it either.

07:52How can he tweet on X?

07:54That's the thing.

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