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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:02I am Anika Nisar with the program Khabar.
00:04Today there was a very important press conference.
00:06DGISPR had a lot of topics on which there was a lot of controversy.
00:10Questions were being raised regarding the military courts,
00:12regarding Imran Khan's trial,
00:14regarding what General Faiz did,
00:16and regarding the Jalsa.
00:18After all, who approved the Jalsa?
00:20All the answers were given today.
00:22In return for the answers, more questions were born.
00:25Or the answers were clear.
00:27We will talk about this.
00:28In today's press conference of DGISPR,
00:31the actions of the military courts were made clear.
00:34That this is such an institution,
00:36the army is such an institution,
00:38in which the actions of the military courts continue.
00:40Other institutions will also have to follow this.
00:44If this is followed in this way,
00:46or the actions of the military courts are carried out in every institution,
00:50then in Pakistan,
00:52which we call the flood of the flood,
00:54will this happen or not?
00:57And what did Faiz Hameed do?
01:00For personal interests,
01:02or for personal purposes,
01:04let's listen to it together with the political community.
01:08The Pakistan Army believes in the actions of the military courts.
01:11On August 12, 2024,
01:13in the announcement issued by the ISPR,
01:15Lt. Gen. Retired Faiz Hameed
01:17was told about the proceedings of the court martial.
01:20In the Top City case,
01:22a request was made against the retired officer.
01:25This matter was sent to the Pakistan Army through the Ministry of Defense.
01:29In April 2024,
01:31a high-level court of inquiry was ordered by the Pak Army.
01:35Based on the firm evidence,
01:37after the detailed inquiry was completed,
01:39the Pakistan Army officially announced
01:42that the retired officer had violated the Pakistan Army Act.
01:47After retirement,
01:49various incidents of violation of the Pakistan Army Act have also emerged.
01:54On these grounds,
01:55the proceedings of the field general court martial have begun.
01:59This allegation is also on the retired officer.
02:01For personal purposes,
02:03he crossed the legal and legal limits
02:06on the basis of special political elements.
02:09Whoever will be involved in this case,
02:12will not be out of the grasp of the law,
02:14whether he has any position or any position.
02:18Now when it was said that anyone who would be involved in such matters,
02:22whether he has any position or any position,
02:25the legal proceedings will be seen in that case.
02:29Then the question arises,
02:30can Imran Khan, Bani Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
02:33also be a part of this action?
02:36Can there be a trial in the military courts against him or not?
02:40This question is coming from both sides,
02:43the government and the opposition.
02:46But DGISPR gave a clear answer to this question today.
02:52He is the leader of Tehreek-e-Insaf.
02:54He is expressing his concerns that the Bani PDI
02:57can be taken to the military court
03:00or a military act can be carried out against them.
03:04I will tell you this,
03:06according to the military law,
03:08if anyone,
03:09an individual or an individual,
03:11who is subject to the Army Act,
03:13uses them for his personal or political purposes,
03:17and his evidence and evidences are present,
03:19then the law will make its own way.
03:23In response to this,
03:24Robert Ayub clearly said that there will be no military trial.
03:26And once again demanded
03:28that the footage of the 9th May incident should be brought forward.
03:34This type of military trial, God willing, will not take place.
03:36We are all sitting here on 9th May.
03:39These are all fictitious cases.
03:41If you bring the video forward,
03:43why don't you bring the video?
03:44Everyone is a political prisoner at the moment.
03:46There is nothing called a government in the country.
03:49On the one hand,
03:50there is the issue of a military trial.
03:52On the other hand,
03:53there is the issue of the law being implemented,
03:55which legally allows any civilian to go to the military court
03:58for a trial,
03:59or makes a way for them.
04:01So, on the other hand,
04:02once again,
04:03it was said by Mr. Rahul Qasim,
04:05that the Jalsa was to be held on 22nd,
04:07but it was contacted by the establishment to postpone it.
04:10This is what many leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf have been repeating.
04:13That in reality,
04:14the postponement of the Jalsa
04:17was due to the request of the establishment.
04:21This question was also asked by TGISPR.
04:23And what is the answer?
04:24Listen.
04:26Any Jalsa,
04:27the location,
04:28the date,
04:29this is purely a matter of district administration.
04:32Army is focused towards its own professional matters.
04:36Now, if it is a matter of professional matters,
04:38then again,
04:39only professional matters
04:40or there is interference in political matters as well.
04:42Because,
04:43on both sides,
04:44it is said that
04:45the establishment's political interference
04:47has remained in Pakistan
04:48as a reality.
04:50So, when it comes to political interference,
04:52the first question that arises is that
04:55is the establishment standing with a political party at this time?
04:59Or is it opposing a political party?
05:01Or is it creating ease or difficulty for a political party?
05:06On this, TGISPR gave its opinion.
05:10Pakistan Army is a national army.
05:13It is neither an opponent of any political party
05:16nor a supporter.
05:17The army has a professional and governmental relationship with every government.
05:22The Pak Army has a clear opinion.
05:25The army will be kept safe from use as a national and state institution
05:30in order to achieve any specific political interest.
05:39When this became clear,
05:40it also became clear that
05:41the government will not be supported in any way.
05:44The government will have to solve the issues on its own.
05:46And the government will have to solve the issues on its own.
05:48So, the question arises that
05:49didn't the Pakistan Muslim League know
05:51how difficult the situation would be?
05:53Didn't they know that they would not be able to handle it?
05:56After the PDM's government,
05:57after the caretaker set-up,
05:58it had become very clear
06:00that the economy of Pakistan
06:01has reached the point
06:03where the problems will arise for the next government.
06:07Officially, the leaders of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf
06:10off the record admit that
06:12even if the PTI would have come,
06:14there would have been a lot of problems for them.
06:17Mr. Ahsan Iqbal admitted that
06:19we were not blind
06:20that we could not see
06:21how many problems there were.
06:24When we took over the government in April 22,
06:26we were not so blind
06:28that we could not see what was ahead.
06:31It was very easy
06:32to break the assemblies in a month
06:34and announce the election.
06:35I can tell you with confidence
06:37that we came back with two-thirds majority.
06:39We damaged our politics
06:41but we defended the state of Pakistan.
06:43On one hand,
06:44you want to stay within the system
06:46and on the other hand,
06:47you want to rock the system.
06:49This is not the service of Pakistan.
06:51This is a disgusting game
06:53with the economic development of Pakistan.
06:57For this discussion,
06:58we have with us
06:59Mr. Mian Javed Latif,
07:00the senior leader of PMLN.
07:02Thank you very much for joining us.
07:03Mr. Mian,
07:04Mr. Ahsan Iqbal said
07:05that we knew how many problems there were.
07:07We knew that
07:08these problems would not be easy.
07:10We knew that
07:11we were kicking ourselves
07:12but we were making it easy
07:13for the state of Pakistan.
07:15On the other hand,
07:16the allegation on this government
07:18is that you have support
07:19and that is why you are sitting.
07:20You could not sit without support.
07:21The DJI and SPR clearly said
07:23that we are not with any political party.
07:25This impression
07:26which is sometimes very powerful,
07:28Mr. Mian,
07:29now that impression has also been lost.
07:30They clearly said
07:31that we are not with anyone
07:32or in opposition to anyone.
07:33So now,
07:34will there be problems for the government
07:36or do you think
07:37it will continue
07:38as it is
07:39on the basis of status quo?
07:44Thank you, Anika.
07:45What you said in the beginning
07:47that there will be a blind person
07:49who will not know
07:50about the future
07:52and who will be making the government.
07:54Certainly,
07:55all these things were in the knowledge.
07:57And there was no ease for the government
07:59before
08:00and there is no ease now.
08:02In difficult circumstances,
08:04there was a government of 18 months
08:06and in the most difficult circumstances,
08:08there is a government of today.
08:10Be it economically,
08:11be it socially,
08:12be it politically,
08:14be it defense-wise,
08:16there are difficulties.
08:18It is true that
08:20everyone has the passion
08:22to sacrifice for the state.
08:24Yes,
08:25I have always had an objection.
08:27Even today,
08:28I am with the objection
08:30that the great sacrifice
08:32that we made for the acceptance
08:34of the state,
08:36it did not benefit the state
08:38as much as our sacrifice.
08:40Why is that?
08:41That is why I have an objection
08:43that if our sacrifice did not benefit
08:45the state,
08:46then what is the benefit of this sacrifice?
08:48Then we should have at least
08:50saved this sacrifice
08:52so that at some time
08:54we can benefit the state
08:56with this acceptance.
08:59I am sorry,
09:00I am cutting you short.
09:01Just tell me
09:02why the sacrifice of acceptance
09:04did not benefit the state?
09:06What were the issues?
09:08What were the problems?
09:12Anika,
09:13the problem is simple.
09:15Today,
09:16the statement given by the ISPR
09:18that we are not with any Jamaat
09:20and we are not against any Jamaat.
09:22Yes.
09:23I wish that
09:25the government of 18 months
09:27before taking over,
09:29or while taking over,
09:31during that time,
09:33it should have been said
09:35that in 2014,
09:37how it was planned
09:39and in 2017,
09:41how it was implemented
09:43and in 2018,
09:45how a government was formed.
09:47And what was the loss
09:49to the state?
09:51And who broke the agreement
09:53with the financial institutions?
09:55How many difficulties are there?
09:57The institutions should have said this.
09:59If they had done it today,
10:01it would have been good.
10:03Instead of expecting that from the institutions,
10:05why didn't Mr. Nawaz Sharif
10:07make it clear
10:09that if the government of that time
10:11had fallen on someone's head,
10:13then the government would not have been taken over?
10:15The reason for this, Anika,
10:17is that against us,
10:19such a heavy investment
10:21was made
10:23and so much financing was made
10:25from all over the world
10:27for the people
10:29and the countries
10:31in Pakistan
10:33that whatever you
10:35talk to yourself,
10:37the way our faces
10:39were rubbed
10:41by the media,
10:43that cannot be washed away.
10:45Along with the media,
10:47I am also saying the words
10:49of the facts to your institutions.
10:51I am not saying that someone should speak
10:53in our face.
10:55If you tell the facts,
10:57then all these things
10:59can be corrected
11:01and Pakistan
11:03and the youth
11:05can go to the right direction.
11:07Otherwise, it is getting late.
11:09If you talk about bypass,
11:11it may not be as beneficial
11:13as it should be.
11:15Now let's come to
11:17what you quoted
11:19It is a good thing.
11:21I call it a good thing.
11:23The more it is praised,
11:25the less it is.
11:27Because it has been a fact
11:29that even though there is
11:31a way of self-accountability
11:33in the institutions,
11:35there has never been
11:37self-accountability.
11:39In those institutions,
11:41the support of political
11:43groups or the leadership
11:45of political figures
11:47has always been there.
12:17Do you think this will be correct?
12:21Anika,
12:23if you allow me,
12:25I would like to say
12:27that the DGISPR
12:29that I am quoting,
12:31I am quoting it because
12:33if one institution has started
12:35self-accountability,
12:37according to the statement
12:39of DGISPR,
12:41there is no self-accountability
12:43in other institutions.
12:45Imran Khan's convenience
12:47was not only from one institution,
12:49but from all the institutions.
12:53Good to see you.
12:55Someone's statement
12:57or letter of address
12:59or the statements of
13:01the judges sitting
13:03in the courts.
13:05Whatever is said
13:07in their statements,
13:09a lot of things
13:11come to people's minds.
13:13I think there should be
13:15self-accountability
13:17in other institutions as well.
13:19If after 77 years,
13:21it has come to the point
13:23that one institution
13:25has started self-accountability,
13:27then other institutions
13:29should also start self-accountability.
13:31As far as your question
13:33about Imran Khan's military trial
13:35is concerned,
13:37I don't think
13:39there should be
13:41two systems in Pakistan.
13:43There should be one system.
13:45So I say this
13:47with honesty that
13:49without respecting anyone,
13:51in Pakistan,
13:53till today,
13:55who has played
13:57with Pakistan,
13:59who has attacked
14:01Pakistan's institutions,
14:03who has attacked
14:05Pakistan's atomic defense institutions,
14:07and according to
14:09Imran Khan's laws,
14:11there should be a military trial.
14:13I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
14:15You are endorsing
14:17that there should be
14:19a military trial
14:21of a leader of a political party.
14:23And that will be right.
14:25Tell me, Anika,
14:27if a person kills a member
14:29of a political party,
14:31will you let him go
14:33because he is a leader
14:35of a political party?
14:37No, brother.
14:39The window you opened
14:41on 9th and 10th May,
14:43I don't care
14:45who is coming, who is going,
14:47who is getting caught,
14:49and who is getting released.
14:51I care about the fact
14:53that we have spent our time.
14:55For the coming generations,
14:57if you leave this window open,
14:59then again, God willing,
15:01people will come
15:03and leave their
15:05windows open.
15:07They will make
15:09appointments
15:11on their own.
15:13And this should reach
15:15the end of the month.
15:17And why not?
15:19You are starting a military trial.
15:21And this is a fact.
15:23If someone denies this,
15:25then I think
15:27he is defaming himself
15:29and the state.
15:31Is this not a fact?
15:33We are talking about 9th and 10th May.
15:35On 9th and 10th May,
15:37there was a very interesting statement
15:39by Rana Sanaullah.
15:41Please pay attention
15:43to the discussion.
16:03He is saying that
16:05if everyone sits together,
16:07then we can
16:09get rid of this situation.
16:11Mr. Nawaz Sharif also says
16:13that everyone should sit together
16:15including PTI.
16:17Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
16:19there was no condition on 9th May.
16:21Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
16:23who apologized on 9th May,
16:25himself said that Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:27did not keep that condition.
16:29Did Mr. Nawaz Sharif forgive him?
16:31Anika,
16:33I am telling you responsibly
16:35that Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:37did not say anything
16:39about 9th and 10th May
16:41or PTI.
16:43No one said that
16:45he should be ridiculed.
16:47Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
16:49you are giving a wrong statement.
16:51Let me tell you something.
16:53I am telling you
16:55that what Mr. Rana Sanaullah
16:57said
16:59about PTI
17:01or what Mr. Shabaz Shiv
17:03said,
17:05I am not in favour of that.
17:07This is not in the
17:09party's notice.
17:11I am saying that
17:13who has the power
17:15to do this?
17:17Who has the power
17:19to do this?
17:21If someone
17:23from Pakistan
17:25is a terrorist
17:27and he does not have
17:29the right to do this,
17:31then he should
17:33say that
17:35he is wrong.
17:37He should say
17:39that he was involved
17:41in a wrong way.
17:43You are right,
17:45but this is
17:47our own channel
17:49and we believe
17:51that Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
17:53Mr. Rana Sanaullah
17:55Mr. Nawaz Sharif knows
17:57the details of these
17:59discussions and
18:01this is a secret
18:03between them
18:05and everyone else does not know.
18:07Will Mr. Rana Sanaullah
18:09give a statement
18:11on his own?
18:17Listen to me.
18:19I have no knowledge
18:21about the Prime Minister.
18:23I am saying this
18:25on behalf of Mr. Nawaz Sharif
18:27that he did not say this.
18:29Now you can say whatever you want.
18:31So, Mr. Rana Sanaullah
18:33is making a false statement.
18:35I am not saying
18:37that he should answer
18:39on his own.
18:41I am saying this on behalf
18:43of Mr. Nawaz Sharif
18:45that Mr. Nawaz Sharif
18:47did not say this
18:49and he did not involve
18:51in this discussion.
18:55Where would it lead?
18:59The discussion
19:01should be conducted
19:03by all political forces
19:05and all opposition parties.
19:07I am very clear
19:09that it should be conducted
19:11by Mr. Akhtar Mengal,
19:13Mr. Mahmood Achakzai,
19:15Maulana Fazlur Rahman
19:17and all other parties
19:19who believe in the
19:21rule of law.
19:23They have always
19:25fought for the rule of law.
19:27They have always
19:29fought for the rule of law.
19:31They have always
19:33fought for the rule of law.
19:35They have always
19:37fought for the rule of law.
19:39They have always
19:41fought for the rule of law.
19:43They have always
19:45fought for the rule of law.
19:47They have always
19:49fought for the rule of law.
20:17The window is open
20:19at another place.
20:21You are talking about
20:23the violation of the rule of law.
20:25You are talking about
20:27the responsibility of the chair.
20:29There is corruption
20:31going on in your city.
20:33It is a matter of crores.
20:35It is a matter of crores.
20:37It is a matter of crores.
20:39It is a matter of crores.
20:41It is a matter of crores.
20:43It is a matter of crores.
20:45I know that
20:47I know that
20:49you are talking about
20:51a government gang
20:53a government gang
20:55which is a fraud.
20:57I am admitting that
20:59this is a fraud
21:01which is a fraud
21:03on the budget of
21:05Punjab.
21:07People who
21:09live in the same place
21:11every year
21:13and many powerful people, and I am saying this word, powerful people, unfortunately, it started with the era of PTI and billions of rupees,
21:28people used to hear that someone made properties in Canada, someone in London, someone in America,
21:37after that, today, the situation is that they have made so many properties in Pakistan, in Lahore, factories,
21:48and those who were on motorcycles yesterday, today they have made so many properties, and I will tell you a little more.
21:54Sir, it started in the era of PTI, but this cannot be an excuse that in the era of PMLN, this corruption continues, if you are saying this.
22:02Sir, I totally agree with you, but I have a doubt that whenever they were caught in NAB or anti-corruption, they used to give money and escape,
22:16and at that time, powerful people used to support them, and even today, and one name is Saleem Bajwa,
22:24if you catch Saleem Bajwa, then you will know that which powerful people he used to favor in the past, and which powerful people he favors today,
22:35and you will see his connection, that in the elections of 8th February 2024, the 5 seats were bought by a gold mafia, and a big rascal,
22:53and a powerful person of Lahore, and I got a lot of courage today from the statement of DGISPR, that no matter how powerful he is,
23:05no matter which organization he is related to, we will hold him accountable, I hope that he will definitely be seen,
23:12and whatever happened in Lahore, and billions of rupees, and he will have an inter-connection with them, and this 40-50 billion,
23:22that is very interesting, I just gave a suggestion, you have told the story, but we will continue discussing it on another show,
23:29Mr. Javed Lateef, thank you very much for joining me in the program, we will go towards the break, and we will come back after the break,
23:33so in the country, the one who drinks water, is no longer the one who drinks, why?
23:39Welcome back after the break, for the common people, on one hand, there are economic problems, on the other hand, social problems,
23:44and on the third hand, political problems, and on the fourth hand, there is a problem, which is a big challenge for the people of Pakistan,
23:52drinking water is not prohibited in some cities, but where it is available, is it drinkable or not, this is becoming an important question,
23:59in 29 cities, 61% of the water is non-drinkable, and why is it non-drinkable?
24:06because somewhere, there is some adulteration going on, whether it is chemical adulteration, or microbial adulteration,
24:12in the National Assembly, it was collected, and today, the answer to this question was asked,
24:16in most of the cities of Pakistan, the underground water reservoirs, have been declared as polluted,
24:22in the survey conducted by the Council for the Research of Water Resources, it has been made clear,
24:26that the underground water of 29 big cities of the country, is polluted and harmful,
24:32Shaheed Bain, Azerabad, Mirpur Khas, Gilgit Baltistan's water is 100% unsafe,
24:37while Multan's, 94% in Karachi, 93% in Badin, 92% in Bahawalpur, 76% in Sargodha, 83% in Hyderabad, 80% in Muzaffarabad,
24:48and 67% in Sakkhar, according to the WHO and UNICEF report, only 36% of the population in Pakistan,
24:59uses clean drinking water, the rest of the population uses non-drinkable water,
25:04Mahini says that the use of non-drinkable water, is the cause of cancer and many other serious diseases,
25:13because in the water, there are unhealthy amounts of arsenic,
25:18drinking polluted water, people are suffering from skin diseases, breathing problems,
25:23and heart problems, and the Pakistan health system will not be able to bear the burden of this,
25:30along with this, getting seawater, in the aquifers of clean water, is also a very serious problem,
25:36which has to be solved, Dr. Hassan Abbas is with us,
25:39Mahir, this is Amoor, thank you very much for joining us, it's a pleasure having you in the program,
25:43Doctor, we can't even drink clean water, this is even more worrisome,
25:48that working from day to night, and going home, or drinking water during the day,
25:53that is also a way to kill you, why is this, where is our planning?
25:57See, our planning, from the beginning, has been on surface water,
26:02all your big projects, in the water sector, are on surface water,
26:08if you look at Pindi Islamabad, there are 3 big projects on surface water,
26:12of Simli Dam, Rawal Dam, and Khanpur Dam,
26:16if I give you an example of these 3 projects,
26:20these 3 projects that have been done, many years ago,
26:24if you have to do these 3 projects in today's time,
26:28this is an investment of more than 1 billion dollars,
26:31but despite these 3 projects, the water needs that are being fulfilled here,
26:36that 70% of the water needs are from ground water,
26:39people do it because it is boring,
26:41yes, so 70% still in this city, which is your capital city,
26:45along with Mallika, Twin City, Rawalpindi,
26:48here also, 70% of your water is coming from ground water,
26:54so basically your resource is ground water,
26:57but all your planning, all your investment is on surface water,
27:02your research and management on ground water is not serious at all,
27:09if you look at any big water department,
27:13VAPDA, VASA, Irrigation Department,
27:16all these departments have at best civil engineers for water management,
27:22I have also done civil engineering,
27:25and I know that water management is not taught in civil engineering,
27:29it has nothing to do with water, especially cleanliness,
27:32I have nothing against civil engineers,
27:35I am also a civil engineer,
27:37civil engineers can tell you how to build a project,
27:41they cannot tell you why to build a project,
27:44water experts will tell you why,
27:46fair enough,
27:47now the question arises that our ground water is so polluted,
27:53a common man spends a lot of money on his house,
27:56gets water from it and uses it,
27:59now this water has chemical issues,
28:03it also has microbial contamination,
28:05along with that the unhealthy levels of arsenic,
28:08these are automatically going towards slow poisoning,
28:11how to deal with this existing poisoning,
28:14how to clean it,
28:15and how to stop further poisoning of our aquifers,
28:18underground aquifers.
28:20The first thing is that your aquifers are being polluted,
28:26you talked about arsenic,
28:28arsenic is a very serious problem,
28:30and where does arsenic come from in water,
28:32basically your soil,
28:34naturally there is arsenic in it,
28:37but that arsenic is not present until its chemical mobilization is not there,
28:43when we add potassium based fertilizers,
28:48or add pesticides,
28:51or these chemicals which are used in our big irrigation system,
28:56the inert arsenic in the soil,
29:00with that the chemical reaction mobilizes it,
29:03and then it dissolves with water and starts.
29:07So the first thing is that this is a very serious problem,
29:11you are adding these chemicals and fertilizers
29:15on top of the soil,
29:18and with that the water which is absorbed underground,
29:22in that arsenic is mobilized.
29:24So this is one reason.
29:25You have to revisit your irrigation methods and agricultural chemicals
29:30with some order,
29:33with some angle,
29:35we have to revisit them in other words.
29:37Yes, but here your farmer and your farming community,
29:42they have not been educated about this,
29:45and they just see how to maximize their crop production,
29:49and whatever chemical companies advertise,
29:53they add it and the crop becomes good,
29:55and they don't think of more than that,
29:58whereas their own children are drinking water from the ground.
30:01Now the chemical and microbial contamination,
30:04where does it come from and how to deal with it,
30:06tell us the overall solution.
30:07The overall solution is that your chemical and microbial,
30:10your microbial comes from the sewage system,
30:12if you don't arrange your sewage disposal properly,
30:16We have put the sewage system in the rivers, unfortunately.
30:18Exactly, see your Leh river,
30:20which passes through the middle of Pindi Islamabad,
30:22this is the biggest source of recharging the groundwater,
30:26and all our waste, untreated,
30:29all even solid waste,
30:31is thrown in the middle of this,
30:33in Islamabad and Rawalpindi,
30:35and this is going into your groundwater.
30:37This is the condition of the Sawa river as well.
30:38After that it goes into the Sawa,
30:40from there your Rawal dam comes,
30:42from there your Kurang river comes,
30:44from here the Leh river comes.
30:45In Karachi, there are open sewage channels.
30:47Yes, yes, in the same way,
30:48this is the same thing there as well,
30:49because this sewage and this sewage and the waterway,
30:52this is basically a natural system,
30:54to recharge the groundwater of nature.
30:56We have started throwing pollution and waste in between them,
31:00so now obviously it will ultimately go into the groundwater.
31:02And does chemical contamination come from factories?
31:05See, the issue of chemical contamination in Pakistan is very serious.
31:09First of all, all your factories, sugar mills,
31:13all these are throwing their own chemical fluid,
31:18they are either throwing it in the drains,
31:20the drains of your scarp,
31:22the drains of irrigation,
31:23they are throwing it in those,
31:24and ultimately it comes into the river from there.
31:27And from the river, it pollutes its water.
31:30The second big issue you have,
31:32is that when you made the SINTAS agreement,
31:35you accepted that the four dirty drains of India,
31:39will come and fall in Ravi and Satluj.
31:42Now, if you control all kinds of pollution in your country,
31:46then what will you do about the international agreement you made from there?
31:49Environmental terrorism is happening from there.
31:51By the way, tell me this,
31:52where is the Environmental Protection Agency?
31:54I have 30 seconds.
31:56See, what will the Environmental Protection Agency do about this?
31:59Because the Environmental Protection Agency can only tell you
32:02that you don't have to do this work.
32:04How many powers does it have to enforce?
32:07And who has to enforce this?
32:09This is not just the job of an Environmental Protection Agency.
32:11This is the job of your mayor level people,
32:14the people of your district administration.
32:17Okay, right.
32:18Dr. Hassan, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
32:21We will go towards the break with this.
32:22See you after the break.
32:25Welcome back after the break.
32:26Gaza is still burning.
32:27Whether we talk or not,
32:28whether we get busy in our lives,
32:30but more than 50,000 people have been martyred in Gaza.
32:34According to the data of Euromet,
32:36there are actually 48,380 people who have been martyred.
32:40And this data is from August 21.
32:42Before this, the data was continuously updated.
32:46But Israel has actually targeted journalists,
32:50targeted those people who have organizations,
32:52including UNRWA,
32:54and there are many other organizations of the UN
32:56that used to provide data,
32:58targeted hospitals,
33:00targeted schools,
33:01targeted refugee camps,
33:03targeted ambulances,
33:05so that the circulation of data to the rest of the world is also stopped.
33:09And now the situation has reached to the point
33:11that it is being planned in Gaza to erase it properly.
33:17Recently, Netanyahu showed a picture
33:20in which the West Bank is also not present.