📢 LOAN: "GUSTAVO VERA TIENE QUE EXPLICAR SU INTERÉS" - Juan Pablo Gallego
En el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo Peña, continúan con acusaciones de encubrimiento y manipulación política. Se menciona al ex marino, Carlos Pérez y su mujer, Victoria Caillava, como figuras clave en el caso, mientras que Millapi y Ramírez según el abogado querellante, serían partícipes del hecho. Sin embargo, hay sospechas sobre el titular de la Fundación "La Alameda", Gustavo Vera, quien parece tener un interés personal en el caso y es acusado de intentar desviar la atención hacia otros temas. Los padres del niño secuestrado continúan su búsqueda desesperada entre las intrigas y las pistas falsas.
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En el caso por la sustracción de Loan Danilo Peña, continúan con acusaciones de encubrimiento y manipulación política. Se menciona al ex marino, Carlos Pérez y su mujer, Victoria Caillava, como figuras clave en el caso, mientras que Millapi y Ramírez según el abogado querellante, serían partícipes del hecho. Sin embargo, hay sospechas sobre el titular de la Fundación "La Alameda", Gustavo Vera, quien parece tener un interés personal en el caso y es acusado de intentar desviar la atención hacia otros temas. Los padres del niño secuestrado continúan su búsqueda desesperada entre las intrigas y las pistas falsas.
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00:00The goal of Hacer Todo Mal was to cover a band that already had these characteristics.
00:07It was a difficult fact that escaped them, that they didn't think it was going to have this national impact.
00:14I mean, used to doing things wrong on purpose.
00:19Yes, but obviously, that's why the other couple that we're going to talk about,
00:25who are Pérez and Cailava, who are a core, who are not just any person.
00:30But undoubtedly, there was an attempt at absolute discovery.
00:35In half a second, Miyapi and Ramírez have just presented a writing,
00:39where they detail every moment, what they ate, what each boy ate,
00:43where they were in Lanajal, how many meters...
00:46There is a single second in which amnesia grips them.
00:49Yes, of course, they remember what suits them.
00:52There is a phone call, but that call is approved.
00:55Yes, yes, the existence...
00:57That's where they forget everything.
00:59But who stays with the boy is Benítez.
01:01No, I make a call now, and I'm next to Guille.
01:06In a context of presumably a relative who is dying.
01:10Germán, these people have never planned with Benítez,
01:15to go and commit an illicit to the house of Grandma Catalina.
01:20His absence was never in doubt.
01:22And they did not show any mourning situation from the beginning.
01:26Because they ate, because Ramírez ate tangerines
01:30until he was stuck eating tangerines,
01:33because they went to a orange-less orange,
01:35because they were carrying a sack of pine nuts.
01:37They starred in all the acts without any mourning situation.
01:40The only mourning is the second, where they disappear to Loan.
01:43And now they are so cowardly, so cowardly,
01:45that they know who they blame for Loan's disappearance.
01:48They do not want to tell a theory that Loan is the one who disappeared.
01:53These three people, the minimum they already have,
01:56and today we have asked for the process,
01:58is 15 years in prison for the crime of kidnapping of a minor.
02:02The representative of the oversight.
02:04Yes, yes, yes.
02:05You oppose.
02:06Of course, we oppose.
02:08The instruction is extended until March 19.
02:12And I take this opportunity to ask Macarena Peña,
02:16let's finish with the lies and threats of Mr. Vera
02:21in that famous meeting,
02:23in that strange inquiry, Macarena,
02:26where Vera tells you not to speak,
02:28where Vera tells you not to return Loan.
02:31Let's finish with this.
02:33Macarena, you are not the one who sank Loan's shoe.
02:39It was your mother.
02:41You are not covering her, you are sinking her.
02:43Your mother will live forever if you don't speak.
02:45So, I returned Loan, Macarena.
02:48Your mother was so clumsy that her shoe sank
02:52and she had to be dragged with a stick when she wanted to make it appear.
02:56These kidnappers are so stupid.
02:59So, Macarena, don't be afraid.
03:01They are deceiving you, they are threatening you.
03:03Mr. Vera is putting lawyers in all the prisoners
03:06so that they don't speak, to save himself.
03:10Mr. Vera is writing letters to himself
03:13to avoid being called where he is going to be called.
03:16Macarena, don't be afraid. Tell the truth.
03:18Return your cousin.
03:19Thank you, Macarena. I hope you listen to me.
03:21What you just said is very strong.
03:23Besides, excuse me,
03:25you just said that Vera orders people,
03:28or asks people not to return Loan.
03:30I don't understand that.
03:32Vera declared,
03:35confessed,
03:37that he will run on July 9th
03:40through Dr. Cutaya,
03:44who now offered to put new lawyers
03:47to support his version.
03:49In the same way that...
03:51But that was later, doctor.
03:52They appear after the scene.
03:54But Macarena was there.
03:56Okay, but Vera appears...
03:58What is Vera's interest?
04:00Well, you'll have to explain it.
04:02He also wanted to strike a coup.
04:04He was at the Plaza de Corrientes
04:06without Loan's family, without Loan, without anyone.
04:08I mean, Vera's interest, you'll have to explain it.
04:10Vera declared the other day
04:12and talked about...
04:14Perito Macei is there.
04:16He talked about illegal reconstructions
04:19that are being carried out
04:21without the order of the judge.
04:23And Dr. Marini,
04:25from the Ministry of Public Defense,
04:27urged to stop doing those reconstructions.
04:29Absolutely.
04:30It's absolutely false.
04:32Yesterday I was listening to my colleague, Dr. Hanson,
04:35a very correct person who does his job
04:37and I'm not going to do any...
04:39And Hanson himself said that he,
04:41well, according to the lies of his clients,
04:44he went to take photos, one day, one hour.
04:46No reconstruction was done here.
04:48Here, Mrs. Maria went to ask Macarena
04:50the same thing I'm asking him to do,
04:52to return his cousin.
04:53He also approached the family.
04:56That's not a reconstruction.
04:58He went to ask for a relative.
05:00Mr. Jose was deceived in his good faith
05:02and his son was stolen.
05:04And his sister stole him.
05:06Organizing, as an organizer,
05:08a gang of kidnappers, Laudelina Peña.
05:10Now, excuse me, can you tell me
05:12that Vera went there
05:14to ruin the political issue?
05:17To make people think,
05:19all of us, that this has to do
05:21with something much bigger,
05:23where there are very important people
05:25in related politics?
05:26Well, for his own interest,
05:28and according to the images,
05:30he felt like the Aldo Rico of this era,
05:33painted in yellow,
05:35who was going to give a coup d'etat.
05:37So, here, a boy was stolen.
05:39So, what he was interested in doing to Vera,
05:42who was filmed,
05:43and what Vera declared, who was filmed,
05:45who could he think of?
05:47Go with a truck on July 9th,
05:49tell Cutaya, bring me Camila.
05:51Boom.
05:52Investigation of Vera Camila.
05:54Bring me Macarena.
05:55Bring me a 21-year-old girl.
05:57Lock her in my truck for an hour.
05:59How?
06:00Macarena and Camila have to declare
06:02to the court, not to Mr. Vera.
06:04Now, Juan Pablo,
06:05this is circumscribed to current,
06:08to July 9th, I mean,
06:10not beyond, not crossing borders,
06:12or at this point, we don't know anymore?
06:15We know that there are many people
06:17who know where Logan is
06:19and what they did to Logan.
06:20So, we ask them to return him
06:21and tell us where he is.
06:22Michapi.
06:23Michapi, of course.
06:24Benite.
06:25Ramirez.
06:26Laudelina.
06:27Laudelina.
06:28Maciel?
06:29Commissioner Maciel?
06:30And Maciel, at the very least,
06:31has been the great shield
06:32that didn't want to march,
06:33the whole first stage,
06:34that stopped the marches,
06:35that...
06:36He was the one who delayed everything,
06:37Maciel.
06:38Of course.
06:39He grabbed the neighbors,
06:40no, no, you can't go to a march,
06:41come, I'll detain you,
06:42or the prosecutor will quote you.
06:43There is no doubt that Maciel...
06:44Instead of march, he said,
06:45go and look for...
06:46Yes, don't look here,
06:47look there.
06:48Juan Pablo.
06:49Yes.
06:50There are many people arrested,
06:51this has been a national scandal,
06:52a national pain,
06:53because the issue of empathy
06:54that we all have with Loan,
06:55and I support his mother
06:56because I am a mother
06:57and I know that the pain
06:58is very big.
06:59Now, how can it be
07:00that so many people
07:01at this instance,
07:02none of them
07:03break that circle of silence
07:04and speak a single word
07:05that detracts from this?
07:06This is what the Americans
07:07and Vera put together,
07:08as Germán says,
07:09they arrived later,
07:10or some of them
07:11arrived later.
07:12But for some reason
07:13they arrived,
07:14and for some reason
07:15they didn't arrive,
07:16and for some reason
07:17they didn't arrive,
07:18and for some reason
07:19they didn't arrive,
07:20and for some reason
07:21they arrived,
07:22and for some reason
07:23they arrived.
07:24Indeed.
07:25There is a head.
07:26Yes.
07:27Here we don't have it.
07:28Someone doesn't want to say
07:29who the head is.
07:30Well.
07:31But those people
07:32move by a power directive.
07:33Well.
07:34Juan Pablo,
07:35let's be honest.
07:36If Vera has a boss,
07:37she will have to say who it was.
07:38Until now,
07:39he was the American's boss,
07:40Cutaña's boss.
07:41Yes.
07:42He said that they had this chat
07:43where they spread fake news,
07:44where they invented
07:45a new thesis every day
07:46that was spread
07:47to the media.
07:48Fortunately,
07:49there were people
07:50in the territory.
07:51Isn't this a part
07:52of an internal policy?
07:53Sorry,
07:54of course,
07:55so that it doesn't get in the air.
07:56We are talking about,
07:57not a ghost,
07:58a boss
07:59who evidently
08:00wants to damage
08:01current politics.
08:02current politics.
08:03Well,
08:04there is no doubt.
08:05Let's see,
08:06he was talking about
08:07a political boss.
08:08Of course,
08:09there are two heads.
08:10Well, Germán,
08:11if two plus two is four,
08:12it's clear,
08:13it's your question
08:14and Guille's.
08:15This man was standing
08:16in the House of Government
08:17asking for the dismissal
08:18of Lohan,
08:19but without Lohan.
08:20Well,
08:21you also asked,
08:22before you entered
08:23the case,
08:24you asked for
08:25the political trial
08:26of Valdez.
08:27Yes,
08:28there was a request
08:29that I didn't participate in,
08:30I didn't know.
08:31The truth is that
08:32I didn't...
08:33Let's see,
08:34everyone gets into politics
08:35in the media.
08:36Of course,
08:37but let's go to this,
08:38the family,
08:39we can discuss
08:40if at that moment
08:41he had the right,
08:42if he was good,
08:43if he was bad,
08:44but the family
08:45is looking for Lohan,
08:46they are looking for
08:47the American
08:48to try to get him out
08:49of prison,
08:50shouting...
08:51He's the only one
08:52who is detained
08:53by the POI clan.
08:54Yes,
08:55but all processed.
08:56All processed.
08:57So,
08:58Vera,
08:59with that megaphone,
09:00asking for the dismissal
09:01of Valdez,
09:02I mean,
09:03it seems to me
09:04that they had nothing
09:05to do with Lohan.
09:06He is part
09:07of the filth,
09:08of the filth
09:09that some part
09:10of politics has.
09:11Yes,
09:12but if we get
09:13to this situation now,
09:14that's why.
09:15Exactly.
09:16They want to bring
09:17their son,
09:18they want Lohan
09:19to come alive,
09:20to reappear
09:21Lohan alive.
09:22And then there is
09:23the other thing,
09:24all this filth
09:25that has muddy
09:26and that has stained
09:27the cause,
09:28which has to do
09:29with two,
09:30I understand,
09:31two political heads,
09:32a current one
09:33and another
09:34that maybe had
09:35its moment,
09:36that are directing
09:37a place
09:38and that take advantage...
09:39That maintain
09:40spaces of power
09:41too.
09:42Exactly,
09:43but that take advantage
09:44of the disappearance
09:45of Lohan
09:46and how do they
09:47do a coup d'état to him?
09:48Indeed,
09:49I think.
09:50That is the synthesis.
09:51Indeed,
09:52here,
09:53obviously,
09:54there was a try
09:55of sedition
09:56of a fan
09:57up to here
09:58with Bera
09:59putting him
10:00in the front
10:01with this group
10:02of people
10:03that what he didn't
10:04do,
10:05clearly,
10:06is look for Lohan,
10:07and I also make
10:08these calls
10:09to Macarena,
10:10Camila
10:11because this group
10:12was very smart.
10:13Bera didn't go
10:14He knows where Lohan is.
10:15And Vera, when I asked her, she said,
10:19and I said, okay, perfect.
10:20You did this crazy thing of getting in that truck
10:23to Macarena and locking yourself up.
10:25And what did she say?
10:26What did you do with Lohan?
10:27She said, no, I didn't ask you about Lohan.
10:28I wanted to find out if Benitez had previous contacts
10:33or records with drugs,
10:34because I want to set up a clue.
10:35So, essentially, she didn't ask him.
10:36I want to set up a clue to Narga.
10:37Of course.
10:38Of course.
10:39Everyone would like to set up a clue.
10:41Everyone would like to set up a clue.
10:43Except for the parents who are looking for Lohan.
10:44Except for the parents.
10:45And I want to ask the parents,
10:46because half the world has approached them,
10:48from the Dupuy Foundation,
10:50and obviously they also had approaches
10:52from political sectors.
10:54Today they feel accompanied by someone,
10:56in addition to the doctor.
10:57They feel accompanied by the expert,
10:59who I understand is also accompanying them.
11:02I want to ask them the role that the expert has.
11:04Why does he accompany them?
11:06Who is the person who supports them today?
11:08And no, and he, Juan Pablo, and the expert,
11:12who are the two who were accompanying us.
11:16I thank them both.
11:19Juan and José.
11:20Juan Pablo and José.
11:22And us too.
11:23José, who is going to stay with us.
11:24And us too.
11:25And you too.
11:26Otherwise, we would be here chatting.
11:28Yes, of course.
11:29And you too.
11:30Yes.
11:33Life goes on like a calvary,
11:35but you still buy toys for Lohan,
11:38you are still connected as a mother from the heart
11:42with Lohan, obviously, right?
11:47The other mothers, the people,
11:49do they continue to accompany you as they did in the beginning?
11:52Yes, a few.
11:54A few, too.
11:55The people are also...
11:57The people are very quiet,
12:00like they are afraid,
12:01they don't want to say anything.
12:03Do they continue to resist that fear?
12:04Yes, yes.
12:04I don't know why.
12:07They are all quiet,
12:09no one says anything.
12:11Very few.
12:11But they seem to be angry about that too, José.
12:14Yes, because,
12:15why not?
12:16Instead of accompanying you, they are with you.
12:18They are all like...
12:20Nothing.
12:21But why in the beginning, yes, and not now?
12:23I don't know why.
12:26I don't know why, I don't know.
12:28Why? Because they must feel that behind this
12:31there is a lot of power,
12:33that something can happen to their children.
12:35Because I thought, Juan Pablo,
12:37this was a structure that was very armed,
12:40very polished,
12:41and that was already working.
12:44Indeed.
12:45There had never been a complaint,
12:47nor had there been a scandal
12:49or this massiveness with the disappearance of Loa.
12:52Indeed, but look,
12:53this is a good question,
12:54why is the case being put on hold
12:56more or less there for the 100th day?
12:57Because for the 100th day,
13:00they start,
13:01the media,
13:02later,
13:03later they realized,
13:04look, there were super valuable people,
13:07Cristian Balbo, Ale Puebla, Paula Bernini,
13:09who didn't,
13:11they didn't just sit around,
13:12they investigated them,
13:13they got witnesses,
13:14and it has been essential,
13:15these people continue to collaborate
13:17with the investigation.
13:19But at one point,
13:20there was no longer,
13:21then the curtain is lowered a little to the case,
13:24practically the family is left alone,
13:27and this happened to be a case,
13:29among so many,
13:31where nothing happened.
13:32Where nothing was left.
13:33When I enter,
13:34I find that,
13:36first, this man, the American,
13:38well, he ended up in prison,
13:40processed by Dupont,
13:41and finally arrested.
13:42This man appears, Vera,
13:44the biggest surprise of my life,
13:45to see what I saw in that hearing.
13:47They start putting people in the middle,
13:49that we have all been disarticulating and demoralizing.
13:52That is why today,
13:53despite everything that has happened,
13:55despite the fact that there are 161 days,
13:57we have a judge working,
13:59we have a judge working 24 hours a day,
14:02anything has been said.
14:03Also, Vera is supposedly going to dismiss her.
14:05Vera can't dismiss
14:07not even the little street of Parque El Zama.
14:08Piumatto also wanted to be
14:11the head of the courts,
14:12he also wanted to make an objective trial against her.
14:14Well, the truth is that
14:15if they are going to dismiss a judge
14:16who is working 24 hours a day
14:18and takes the statement and makes the photocopy,
14:21we are in the world of the reverse.
14:22I ask the prosecutor,
14:24Dr. Casal,
14:26and you know that I have asked him,
14:27we need a reinforcement of two new prosecutors
14:30to the urgent cause,
14:31due to the complexity of this investigation,
14:33because although today
14:35I think we present a very detailed report
14:37on the responsibility of each of the seven people
14:39that we ask for the process of preventive completion,
14:42we need active prosecutors
14:43that act on this whole mess.
14:47Those who were there and Maciel,
14:48not the American.
14:50Of course, also the American
14:53and the people on the side who continue to appear,
14:55because every day,
14:56it is a case with new surprises.
14:58You saw the fake hair,
14:59the fake graphologist.