Las negociaciones entre los gremios aeronáuticos y el gobierno han entrado en un cuarto intermedio tras siete horas de diálogo. El conflicto, originado por el despido de un empleado de Intercargo, ha escalado a discusiones sobre aumentos salariales y modificaciones en convenios sindicales. El gobierno busca eliminar lo que considera privilegios del personal, mientras los gremios se mantienen cautelosos hasta obtener acuerdos concretos. La situación genera incertidumbre sobre el futuro de Aerolíneas Argentinas y la temporada turística que se avecina.
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00:00And finally, there will be a fourth intermediate in the negotiation between the airlines and the government.
00:06Remember that this started with the dismissal of an employee,
00:09then came the assemblies, then came the criminal complaints for illegitimate deprivation of liberty,
00:14a real nonsense that the government did.
00:16And then what we all said, well, this ends in a negotiation in the Secretariat of Labor,
00:21because in the end it is a gremial conflict, it is not a criminal conflict.
00:24Well, that's how it ended.
00:26The airlines met, the government said, let's dissolve airlines.
00:29The conflict was with intermissions.
00:31They said, let's dissolve airlines, let's dissolve intermissions,
00:34let's call for the preventive crisis procedure to kick everyone out.
00:38Finally, there was a negotiation, seven hours of negotiation, and now a fourth intermediate.
00:43Because what is being discussed is not only, as in any paritary negotiation,
00:48I mean, to get rid of the drama that the government puts on it,
00:51not only was a salary increase being discussed,
00:53the airlines say that we are 90% behind, but also modifications to the agreement.
00:59Remember that Stutzenegger said, the pilots do not want to give up their privileges.
01:04I mean, everything is very exaggerated in the era of Millet.
01:07So, the issue of privileges was really,
01:10things that they had agreed that there were, that the pilots had traditionally in the agreement.
01:15These are the modifications that are now being negotiated,
01:18and the pilots, Meli, for now do not want to sign these modifications to the agreement.
01:22Yes, there was a seven-hour meeting yesterday between the government and the different airlines.
01:28There was the APA Aeronautical Personnel Association, the Argentine Aeronavigantes Association,
01:32and the Argentine Association of Airline Pilots, APLA.
01:35Well, after these seven hours, a fourth intermediate was passed.
01:38Let's remember that on Friday there was already a meeting also in these terms.
01:42So they sat down to negotiate with Viro, who is like the demon of Tasmania.
01:46Yes, Viro was not there, but people from the unions.
01:50And obviously what they say from Casa Rosada is that yes or yes they need to get these privileges.
01:55He says that, for example, the issue of the remittances that they take to the pilots from their houses to the airports,
02:00the issue of the flights that some pilots have for free, let's say by collective agreement.
02:07There are things that are common sense.
02:09Indeed, if they take the pilots on remittances, it is because they have to arrive on time,
02:15it is more expensive to stop a plane than to pay a remittance.
02:20Well, it seems unusual, but that is what they are asking from Casa Rosada,
02:23to cut with what they call privileges of the airline personnel.
02:27And of course, from the unions what they say is that they do not want to communicate how those negotiations are coming,
02:33they want to wait, because until they have nothing signed or concrete by the government, they do not want to advance.
02:39So yesterday at 11.30 pm this meeting ended.
02:43Surely we will know more details with the course of the hours,
02:46but it is estimated that there will be another meeting, because it happened in an intermediate room.
02:50As we said, they came from Friday negotiating, they will continue.
02:53In Casa Rosada what they say is that they continue to insist with this threat that they are going to privatize,
02:57that they already have the preventive process of bankruptcy in mind,
03:01in case they do not want the remittances, but they feel like negotiating.
03:04Let's see, there are legal issues.
03:07Of course.
03:08We know that the legal issues in the Mileage era, well, we put them in parentheses,
03:12but what they are studying, an example that would combine a certain visa of legality,
03:18which is the dissolution of the airline Alitalia.
03:21Why?
03:22How was the matter of Alitalia?
03:24Alitalia, the night of Mariana, which was a company, had been emblematic,
03:28had been the first airline in passenger transport throughout Europe.
03:32However, at one point it gave so much loss that the Italian government said,
03:36we close it and open another one.
03:39With more or less the same planes, they made a personal purge and reopened another company.
03:46I think they are studying that model.
03:48Well, we close airlines, we open another company,
03:51and that company is already born with another composition of capital.
03:55Yes, what happens is that if that is the idea of the government,
03:57it will have to present before justice the evidence that shows that the company is bankrupt.
04:01To advance in that, the truth is that ...
04:04The precedent of crisis has to be that it is unfeasible as it is,
04:08and then it has to make a call for a creditor,
04:10but in this case the only creditor would be the state, I suppose.
04:13Yes, well, that's why it's weird, it's a long process.
04:15In addition, we think that there are thousands of tickets already sold from airlines to the corners.
04:19It is the high season.
04:20Of course, the summer season is coming.
04:21At the time, Perdomely, when Alitalia happened,
04:24there was a drawback because there were people who had taken tickets,
04:26that's why there were sold tickets.
04:28Then, at the time they decided that ITA, I think that's the name,
04:31with that amount they gave them, because it was the amount they could exchange,
04:35they didn't have to buy the same ticket they had bought at the time.
04:37It had been the pandemic, post-pandemic.
04:38Yes, post-pandemic.
04:39They lost a lot of tickets, a lot of people had bought them.
04:41Yes, that's why, you have to see, it's a long, very complex process.
04:44For now, what the government does, beyond what is discursive,
04:47says that they are going to close the airlines,
04:49what it does is sit down to negotiate with the unions.
04:52Let's suppose they advance in all that,
04:55some guild is going to ask for support,
04:59that can take time legally, I mean, it's not that simple.
05:03In the era of Millet, look, everything works with high-pitched statements,
05:07we are going to do this, we are going to do this,
05:09as if the word became an act of government.
05:12And not always saying things means that later they can be taken to reality.
05:17How many things were said about the dismissals,
05:20about the cries, about the hearings,
05:22that later did not coincide with reality and had to go backwards.