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00:00Today's guest is this person.
00:10Nice to meet you.
00:12I'm Takayama-san. Nice to meet you.
00:14Nice to meet you, too.
00:16You're not the one from Zashiki Warashi, are you?
00:18You're a good-looking person, right?
00:21What are you talking about?
00:23I'm Takayama-san.
00:25Everyone can see you.
00:26Don't you know me?
00:27I'm sorry. I'm not good at studying.
00:29You're an athlete who represents Japan.
00:32I know Zashiki Warashi, but...
00:34You're not Zashiki Warashi.
00:35I'm a youkai who represents Japan.
00:36No, you're not.
00:37Today's guest is...
00:40He's the real captain of Kakurenbo Japan.
00:43What?
00:45Captain!
00:46Is there such a thing as a representative of Japan?
00:48Zashiki Warashi?
00:50You're wrong.
00:52In the sense of being able to hide?
00:53That's right.
00:55A representative of Japan?
00:56Yes.
00:57Kakure Japan.
00:58No, Kakure Japan.
01:00I don't approve of such a word.
01:03It's not a representative.
01:06Who did you get your nickname from?
01:08Ueda-san from Cream Stew.
01:11Then I can't say anything.
01:13He's a man of admiration.
01:14We're silent.
01:16It's rare for Mr. Ueda to use words.
01:18That's right.
01:20Don't cheer for him now.
01:23I'll use it.
01:25It was edited on the spot.
01:27Kakurenbo Japan.
01:28Kakurenbo is a legendary sport.
01:33As proof of this, the Kakurenbo World Championship is being held.
01:38That's cute.
01:39It looks fun.
01:40Is this a competition?
01:41Yes, it's a competition.
01:42It's easy to find.
01:45That's right.
01:46It looks fun.
01:48Takayama-san.
01:49Takayama-san, you're making too many faces.
01:52That's right.
01:55The Kakurenbo World Championship has been held for 10 competitions since 2010.
02:00It looks fun.
02:02First-class players from about 30 countries and regions are hiding.
02:07They're all making faces.
02:10This rule is like kankeri.
02:14I see.
02:15Players from all over the country are holding hands.
02:20On the mat in the middle, there is a demon prepared by the tournament team.
02:25It's the tournament team.
02:27This is going to be fun.
02:29If there is a signal, the players will hide in the field.
02:34I think I know what it is.
02:38And then...
02:39One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
02:46If there is a signal, the game will start.
02:53It's a different color T-shirt.
02:59If you are found by the demon and touched by the mat, you will be eliminated.
03:04It's kankeri.
03:06To get a point...
03:09I see.
03:11I see.
03:13You have to run.
03:15If you can touch the mat before the demon, you will get a point.
03:19If I touch there...
03:21The time limit for one game is 10 minutes.
03:24If you can touch the mat before the demon, you will get a high score.
03:28This is okay.
03:30And they will play this game again and again until they get a total of 3 points.
03:363 games?
03:38How many games will they play?
03:42120 games!
03:44They will play this game 120 times.
03:47In the mountains of Italy, they will play 120 games for 3 days.
03:52The players will play hide-and-seek.
03:57Next year, they will play in France.
04:00Next year, they will play in Japan.
04:03Is there anything you are curious about?
04:05They will play 120 games for 3 days.
04:07What does that mean?
04:09If it's just 10 or 20 games, it will be a luck game.
04:13If you play a lot of games, you will have a strategy and a psychological warfare.
04:18The players will gradually...
04:20You need to be able to see the number of games.
04:24In the world, European teams are strong, right?
04:28Italy, France, Spain are strong.
04:31There is a director and a hide-and-seek coach.
04:34They have a great strategy.
04:38It's not just a game. It's a profound sport.
04:41That is...
04:42Hide-and-seek!
04:45Oh!
04:46Oh!
04:48It's a fast-paced game.
04:50The studio is excited.
04:52I made a mistake.
04:55You are so cool, Takayama-san.
04:57Takayama-san is too honest.
05:01Everyone is captivated by him.
05:03He is the best.
05:04I want him to succeed.
05:06I want him to succeed.
05:08Let's look at the history of hide-and-seek in Japan.
05:14Why did Takayama-san choose to play hide-and-seek?
05:17The reason is...
05:19He wanted to be like Hide Nakata.
05:21I wanted to be like him.
05:23When I was 10 years old, the World Cup was held in Japan.
05:26At that time, I thought he was a great player.
05:29That's why I started playing hide-and-seek.
05:31Takayama-san admired hide-and-seek.
05:33When he was in college, he studied abroad.
05:36Hide-san has the image of going abroad.
05:40But he didn't get inspired by anything.
05:43He just went home.
05:45It's a rare pattern.
05:47He wanted to stand out on social media.
05:49So he went abroad to look for himself.
05:52He looks like he has friends around him.
05:54But he doesn't speak English at all.
05:56Did he want to post a picture on social media?
06:00He wanted to stand out.
06:03He wanted to stand out.
06:06It's a rare pattern.
06:08It's a rare pattern.
06:10He just wanted to take a picture.
06:13Did he have a reaction?
06:15He looked like he was studying hard.
06:18He got a lot of likes.
06:20I was happy at that time.
06:22He's trying to stand out.
06:25He wants to stand out.
06:28He feels good.
06:30He wants to stand out.
06:32But he didn't get anything.
06:34He didn't get anything.
06:36It's a rare pattern.
06:39He forced himself to go abroad.
06:43He wants to stand out.
06:46But he doesn't get inspired by anything.
06:49He is 24 years old.
06:51He doesn't get inspired by anything.
06:53He is 24 years old.
06:55At the age of 24,
06:57he came up with a formula to get inspired by anything.
07:01He does that.
07:03He doesn't get inspired by anything.
07:05He makes a wrong formula.
07:08I don't know if it's wrong.
07:10It's 24 years old.
07:12Let's look at the formula.
07:14Let's look at it.
07:16What is this?
07:18Mr. Takayama, please explain.
07:20What is this?
07:22It's not the formula I thought of.
07:24I made this.
07:26I was wondering what it was.
07:28I tried hard.
07:30I had experience.
07:32I thought it was a person with experience.
07:35I was wondering what I wanted to be.
07:38It was fun.
07:40I wanted to be famous.
07:42I wrote it down.
07:44I wrote it down.
07:46It's amazing.
07:48It's amazing.
07:50It's funny.
07:52It was fun.
07:54It was fun.
07:56I wanted to be famous.
07:58I wanted to be famous.
08:00I made it into a language.
08:02It's the best formula.
08:04I want it to come true.
08:06I want it to come true.
08:08Mr. Takayama looked into minor sports that he could be active in.
08:14He discovered the existence of the world championship.
08:20He gathered people with physical strength and formed a team.
08:26At that time, there was no team in Japan, so he became the representative of Japan.
08:33In 2017, he became the captain.
08:37He became the representative of Japan.
08:39He participated in the world championship for the first time.
08:42The result is...
08:44Ta-da!
08:46He is in 9th place out of 30 countries.
08:48It's amazing.
08:50He is the most troublesome.
08:52It looks like he is leading.
08:54Actually, he has a big difference from the country in the top.
09:00He is a great player.
09:02He is physically strong.
09:05There are some ex-soldiers and rugby players.
09:09Many people are physically strong.
09:11When he attacks, he attacks without sound.
09:15The sound is important.
09:17It's an important thing.
09:19He changes the tactics in the 120 games.
09:23He changes the tactics in the 120 games.
09:28Does that mean you have to go in the opposite direction of the shadow?
09:31If you look at the demon, you'll notice it when your eyes meet.
09:34So you have to look at the shadow coming out of the demon.
09:36I see.
09:37If there's a shadow on the west side, you have to hide in the west as much as possible.
09:40You can't see from the demon, but you have to find a position where you can only see the shadow that the demon is coming out of.
09:45That's cool.
09:46It depends on the situation.
09:47It seems that the director and the coach are giving instructions from a perspective.
09:54That's really important.
09:56That's right.
09:57Takayama also experienced great humiliation in this world tournament.
10:02Takayama, who made his first appearance, couldn't jump out because his legs were cramped.
10:07I see.
10:08However, knowing Takayama, the foreign players kept scoring goals.
10:14Wow, he's attacking with his facial expressions.
10:17From the demon's point of view, it looks like he's angry.
10:19He's in a good pose.
10:21That's right. All you have to do is touch him.
10:23He's angry.
10:24He's been doing this for a long time.
10:26I envied him for doing that.
10:28I want to be like him and dive.
10:32I agree.
10:33I want to do that.
10:35I want to take it easy.
10:38Which one do you want to do the most?
10:40The one on the top left.
10:43The one that goes from the butt.
10:45That's right.
10:47I want to do that.
10:48I really want to do that.
10:50Takayama, after experiencing great humiliation in this world tournament,
10:55decided to give up.
10:57Oh, he's angry.
10:59He decided to give up his life to hide-and-seek.
11:04At this point, you don't need likes anymore, do you?
11:07No.
11:08You don't need likes anymore?
11:09No, I don't.
11:10At this point, I really want to be a person who is pure about hide-and-seek.
11:15Based on the analysis, you started to think that you need good results.
11:19Yes, I did.
11:20I made a mistake.
11:22You made a mistake?
11:24Did you need everything?
11:25Yes, I need effort, experience, and knowledge.
11:28You realized that you need everything?
11:30Yes.
11:31Normally, people don't realize that.
11:33Normally, people don't think about the right.
11:36Normally, people go straight to the left.
11:40They just go around.
11:42I don't like those five.
11:44I don't like them.
11:45You don't like them, but you have no choice but to become them.
11:48Did you need everything?
11:49Yes, I needed everything.
11:51You can't miss any of them.
11:53No, I can't.
11:54You are honest and wonderful, Takayama-san.
11:56You are so cool, Takayama-san.
12:00Since then, he has been practicing hard for the World Championships a year later.
12:06He has been taking a step forward in his daily life.
12:10He has been teaching self-defense members how to move forward.
12:15He has been solving the problems one by one.
12:19The third problem is the experience of the mountains.
12:22The competition venue is in the mountains.
12:25It is important to get used to the environment.
12:27So, Takayama-san, as a special training,
12:30he has been training with bears in the mountains.
12:35It's too much to say that I have been training with bears.
12:37I usually train with bears.
12:39Do you have bears?
12:41Yes, I have.
12:43That's impossible.
12:44You have been training with bears since now.
12:46You don't know how we feel.
12:48You don't train with bears, do you?
12:50No, I don't.
12:53You say everything, Takayama-san.
12:55I can't lie.
12:56He can't forgive himself for lying.
12:58How did you train without training with bears?
13:01I trained with bears.
13:04I used various forms to chase wild animals.
13:10Did you incorporate that into your training?
13:13To be honest, it didn't work at all.
13:17It's a special training.
13:19It's a special training.
13:20The order is strange.
13:22I think it's a special training to try it.
13:25I see.
13:26You have to do it.
13:27I'm sorry for my feelings.
13:29Takayama-san is using this experience.
13:32He says so himself.
13:34Everyone, please look at this.
13:36I want to see it.
13:37I want to be convinced.
13:38Here it is.
13:39Where is Takayama-san hiding?
13:42He is there.
13:43He is there.
13:44It's better to have a disciple.
13:47Officially.
13:48He will be shot in the head.
13:53It's too funny.
13:56What are you doing, Taka-chan?
13:58Can't you grow your bangs a little longer?
14:02You have a short hair.
14:04Taka-chan, I want you to stop wearing a beret.
14:07It's harder to find if you grow your bangs a little longer.
14:11I've heard about the special training so far.
14:14I want to see Takayama-san's actual hideout.
14:18I really want to see it.
14:19I really want to see it.
14:21I shot it this time.
14:23Please watch it on VTR.
14:26Takayama-san will face the program staff in their early 20s.
14:31They are energetic and young.
14:32The four of them will fight in this field using Shigemiya and Tendo.
14:38I'm thinking of playing 5 games.
14:41I'm sorry.
14:42It's hard to tell the difference between 5 games.
14:44Can I play 10 games?
14:4610 games?
14:47Yes.
14:48That's a lot.
14:4910 games at a location.
14:50It's the same thing.
14:52They will play 10 rounds of 5 minutes each.
14:55The winner will be decided by a total of 10 points.
14:59How do you like this field?
15:00It's cloudy today, so it's hard to see the shadows.
15:04I'm looking at the shadows of the sea.
15:06I think it's a disadvantage.
15:08There's a lot of grass on the ground, so it's hard to hear footsteps.
15:12I think this is the advantage of this field.
15:18How good is Takayama-san?
15:2110 games.
15:23The first important game has begun.
15:26Takayama is starting slowly.
15:30He's looking for a place to hide.
15:33He chose the farthest position.
15:37I wanted to see where the other players were hiding.
15:42So I hid in a relatively far place.
15:44He knows.
15:45It's hard in Japan.
15:47What is this face?
15:50I won't forgive you.
15:51Why?
15:52Yellow is attacking.
15:54He found it.
15:57Blue ran in and got a point.
16:02But Takayama-san moved when 4 minutes passed.
16:07Takayama is moving forward.
16:12It's about 6 meters to the end.
16:15Takayama-san, good luck.
16:17There are only a few demons left.
16:20I can't find it yet.
16:22Takayama got a point.
16:25Takayama is calm.
16:28What is this expression?
16:31He is not happy at all.
16:33Takayama got a point.
16:37The second game.
16:39Takayama is looking for a place to hide.
16:44He is separated.
16:46He is looking for a place to hide.
16:52He got a point.
16:55He got a point.
16:58He is cool.
17:00He is cool.
17:02There are only two games left.
17:04It's raining.
17:06It's a baseball game.
17:08Takayama chose a close place.
17:11It's only 3 meters away.
17:14It's raining.
17:16It's raining, so I changed to a short-distance run.
17:20It's raining.
17:22He found a jellyfish.
17:27Takayama is good at reading the situation.
17:29The other players are in a good mood.
17:32Thank you for showing me a good thing.
17:36It's not a live broadcast.
17:38He slipped.
17:40It's raining, so I'm sorry.
17:42He is looking for a place to hide.
17:44He is looking for a place to hide.
17:46He is separated from the mat.
17:49Will Takayama get a chance?
17:51Will Takayama get a chance?
17:53He got a chance.
17:55He got a point.
17:58He got a big five points.
18:00His back is cool.
18:02He doesn't look back.
18:04He doesn't stop.
18:06He is calm.
18:08He is a master, so he doesn't look back.
18:11What will Takayama do in the final situation?
18:16He hides in the same place as before.
18:20He can't hide in a short-distance run.
18:24He changes his hairstyle.
18:26His hairstyle doesn't change.
18:28He is the same.
18:31If Takayama hides in this place, he will win.
18:35The green мама is separated from the mat.
18:39He flew.
18:41He flew.
18:44Oh!
18:45How is it?
18:46Takayama's hand is fast!
18:48He's got 5 points!
18:50Takayama is the winner!
18:53Yes!
18:54I'm relieved.
18:56I'm glad.
18:57I was able to see it.
18:58You were able to see it?
18:59I was able to see it.
19:00I was able to see it.
19:01I was able to see it.
19:02I was able to see it.
19:03I was able to see it.
19:04I was able to see it.
19:05I wasn't able to predict it.
19:06I was able to see it.
19:08The atmosphere is getting heated.
19:10Takayama is getting stronger.
19:12He's getting stronger.
19:13He will be taking on the 2nd World Championship.
19:16He's so cool.
19:18It looked fun, right?
19:19It looked fun.
19:20It looked fun.
19:21It looked fun.
19:22It was really fun.
19:23It was really fun.
19:24Even for people who have never played this game before,
19:25you can play it in a short time.
19:26If it's about 5 games,
19:28you can have a good fight.
19:29Yes, you can lose.
19:30You can lose.
19:31Yes.
19:32If I think about it,
19:33I want to end it with 5 games.
19:35You want to win?
19:38After this,
19:39Takayama, who has leveled up,
19:41will be taking on the 2nd World Championship.
19:44What are you doing?
19:45I can't believe it.
19:46I'm sorry.
19:51From the humiliation of 9th place in the last tournament,
19:54he will be taking on the 2nd World Championship for the first time in a year.
19:57Takayama and the members of Kakure Japan
20:00have been training hard for the past year.
20:03They joined Kumaryo
20:05to learn about the mountains and
20:07to learn about the Self-Defense Force.
20:10All of this is to fight against the world
20:12in the Hakurenbo
20:14and to become someone.
20:17And the result is...
20:20No way.
20:22Here it is!
20:239th place!
20:24What?
20:25You're kidding, right?
20:26Is this a role?
20:28We're hiding in the same place.
20:329th place?
20:33Yes, 9th place in the last tournament.
20:35How can this happen on TV?
20:379th place, 9th place.
20:38What's going on?
20:39It's the same.
20:40Kakure Japan's level has gone up,
20:42but the team's level has gone up.
20:43Yes, it has.
20:44So, from this humiliation of 2nd place,
20:47Takayama will be leading a certain scenario.
20:51He will be handing over the position of the real captain
20:54to someone else.
20:55No way.
20:57In order to fight against the world,
20:59Takayama will be leading a certain scenario.
21:01I didn't know that.
21:02I didn't expect that.
21:03Well, this is a bit of an overstatement.
21:06What are you doing?
21:07No way.
21:08I'm sorry.
21:09Show us the documents.
21:11What do you mean by an overstatement?
21:13It's an overstatement.
21:14It's an overstatement, isn't it?
21:15I wanted to hand over the position
21:17to someone who was better than me.
21:21So, the Japan qualifiers are held every year.
21:24I will be participating in the qualifiers,
21:26and I'm determined to win the 1st place.
21:28If there's someone better than me,
21:30I will be willing to hand over the position.
21:33As a director,
21:34I want to win the 1st place as a member of Japan.
21:38So, this is what you're going to do.
21:40That's right.
21:41That's what I did just now.
21:43That's right.
21:44You did that to the panel.
21:45That's right.
21:46If you're going to hold it,
21:47this is the only thing you can do.
21:48That's right.
21:49It's just like you said.
21:50Is it okay?
21:51Yes, thank you.
21:52There's no doubt about it.
21:53You can't use it.
21:54It's too much.
21:55Is this okay?
21:56I'm sorry.
21:57I didn't expect to see such a scene.
21:59I'm sorry.
22:00I was surprised.
22:01I'll hand it over to you.
22:02It's going to be held in France next year.
22:06Now, we're gathering members.
22:09That's what it is.
22:10At the Japan Hide-and-Seek Association,
22:12we are holding various hide-and-seek events, including the qualifiers.
22:15I want to boost the national strength of Japan's hide-and-seek.
22:18So, including the Japan qualifiers,
22:20I hope you can experience various hide-and-seek.
22:23So, let's pay attention to everyone.
22:26The next day
22:29It's true.
22:31The next day
22:34The next day
22:35It's a lunch break.
22:37The next day
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22:50Mr. Takayama,
22:52I'm not good at hide-and-seek.
22:57It's true.
22:59I loved it.
23:01I didn't want to hug him.
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