Aaeni Tarmeem Kay Khilaaf Wukla Ki Tehreek... Kya Wukla Ko Kamyabi Miley Gi? ??
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00:00We will move ahead a little. I want to talk about the Lawyers' Movement.
00:06In 2007, there was a context of the Lawyers' Movement.
00:10The Lawyers' Movement was not running on its own.
00:15The characters of the Lawyers' Movement are the same.
00:18Do you still see them alive, especially after the Supreme Court elections?
00:23This is the question that we are asking the leaders of the Lawyers' Movement
00:27like Muneer-e-Malik and Ali Ahmed.
00:32They have told us about the situation at that time.
00:36In the beginning, the Lawyers' Movement was running on its own.
00:39The Lawyers' Movement did not start on the first day itself.
00:42The Lawyers' Movement did not start on the first day itself.
00:46The Lawyers' Movement started on its own.
00:50The Lawyers' Movement started on its own.
00:53Will they be able to move forward?
00:56I think they will definitely be able to move forward.
00:58The mechanism they have made is to activate everyone at the district level
01:04and to hold the All Pakistan Lawyers' Convention in all districts.
01:10Most senior lawyers like Muneer-e-Malik, Ali Ahmed, and Damit Khan are present.
01:17I liked two things about them.
01:20They said that there will be no political affiliation.
01:24What will Amit Khan do?
01:25No, no, no.
01:26They said that there will be no political affiliation with the National Action Committee.
01:32They said that there will be no political affiliation with the National Action Committee.
01:39Riyasat Ali Azad is from the same group as Azam Nazeer Tarar.
01:44They said that there will be people from that group as well as from this group.
01:48They said that there will be people from that group as well as from this group.
01:51Today they have decided that no policy will be followed.
01:55Our opinion will be independent.
01:59Our opinion will be independent.
02:02I think they have said this even before the All Pakistan Lawyers' Convention.
02:06then he is saying that their first agenda is that the Ayani Tarameem that has been challenged in the Supreme Court
02:11they have said that the Supreme Court has called a full court on this
02:14Okay, they have called a full court
02:16now to make a full court, they can't make it under the law of land
02:20but they are saying that the Tarameem that we are challenging
02:23they have to make benches under the Ayani Tarameem, everything has to be done
02:27they are the beneficiaries, they will make everything, they will listen to it
02:30so how can this happen?
02:31so the full court should sit, the full court should examine it
02:34and after that they have said one more thing that we lawyers are with the judiciary
02:38the judiciary has to come to the front
02:40the judiciary has to play a role
02:42because the independence of the judiciary is being compromised
02:44Yes Imran, this whole mess that our friend Saqib Bashir is presenting
02:49that it will be apolitical and very structural
02:52the preparations are complete, the judiciary has to lead
02:55do you agree with this?
02:58that you can see the effects of this?
03:01No, I don't agree with this
03:03that because of this Bhukla movement, Pakistan was not able to achieve justice
03:08even today, in the premises of the Supreme Court
03:10the famous personalities of Bhukla have been seen
03:15the personalities of the movement have been seen there
03:17not only Hamid Khan, there was Shoaib Shaheen
03:20there was Niazullah Niazi of the movement
03:23there were other faces of the movement
03:26but anyway, their attempt is that this Bhukla movement
03:29should not be given any political color
03:32nor should it be affected politically
03:35but this will not be that easy
03:37but before coming to all these issues
03:39I would like to say one more thing
03:41that our friend Saqib Bashir was talking about
03:43the matter of the 26th Ayni Tarmeem
03:45now the Bhukla movement is demanding the full court
03:48now whether the full court is made or not
03:50in the context of the 26th Ayni Tarmeem
03:52without going into this debate
03:54but as a result of this Ayni Tarmeem
03:56Yahya Afridi Sahib, Jehawar Mochib, all of them have become Pakistan
03:59and in the context of this 26th Ayni Tarmeem
04:02Mansuri Shah Sahib, you can say that he is an influential person
04:06so such a bench should be made
04:09now on which side it is made, I will not go into that debate
04:12but how can you include him in that bench
04:17who can be either a beneficiary or a factician
04:21this is a very crucial point
04:23but Ibrahim, do you see any lawyer's movement
04:26I will talk about the Bhukla movement in a minute
04:31we have seen Bhukla's face in the press conference
04:35he has a very positive face, he is a very famous person, he is very credible
04:38but if you look at his speeches in the last few days
04:42then you will see some of his faces
04:44who were targeting the former Chief Justice Qadip Bhai
04:47they were criticizing him
04:49and they were saying that he did not have a good time
04:51now if you look at all these protests
04:54when this Bhukla movement started in 2007
04:56then he came forward and showed the people that he is a liberator
05:00he will come back to the court, he will be restored
05:03the people will get justice, what happened to the people?
05:05nothing happened
05:06now they are saying that Qadip Bhai Sahib could not meet our expectations
05:09so he has been deceived twice in the past
05:13now for the third time he will not be trusted
05:16okay, you are saying that you do not see any lawyer's movement
05:21let's see in the coming days
05:23will they be able to gather momentum
05:25and will it be a political movement?